The terribly sad state of Balochistan - Tribune

desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The terribly sad state of Balochistan
By Nosheen Ali

In 2006, Pervez Musharraf launched a military operation in Balochistan and killed a former governor and elected chief minister of the province, Nawab Akbar Bugti. This was a watershed moment in the region, which radicalised even ordinary, apolitical Balochis to join the long-standing nationalist movement for regional rights and justice. More than 50,000 Baloch were displaced during the extended military operation that surrounded the killing. Even worse, national and international organisations were obstructed from providing humanitarian relief to those people who fled the violence. Unicef came out with a report on the condition of these IDPs and it was asked to retract it.
The military operation in Balochistan has only intensified over the last five years, with many in the province seeing it as nothing but a brutal form of state repression. Reportedly, more than 4,000 people have been illegally abducted and detained. Out of these, around 149 were later found dead, usually with their dead bodies found by the roadside. The dehumanising nature of the violence is evidenced not just in the ways people are tortured with holes drilled in the head and bodies mutilated beyond recognition but also in the way their bodies are discarded. One note accompanying a decomposed corpse said, Eid gift for the Baloch.
Those who have been kidnapped, tortured and killed are not just armed militants hiding in the mountains. A vast proportion of them are from the urban middle class, including students, engineers, lawyers, journalists and activists who have been engaging in civilian protest against what they perceive to be wrong policies of the state and the establishment. As the Guardian reported two months ago, a Baloch farmer went to court to file a case for his missing son but his lawyer was murdered. When he subsequently went to the media, the president of the local press club was murdered. Now, no one wishes to speak up for him.
In this situation, why should we be surprised or offended if some children in the province refuse to sing the national anthem and local schools refuse to fly the national flag? Why do we shudder when an increasing number of people in Balochistan including women, for the first time shout slogans that go against the existence of Pakistan. Every dead body is an embodiment of a renewed resolve to fight the policies of the centre. This, in turn, has brought about retaliatory violence. Armed Baloch groups have also resorted to horrific forms of indiscriminate violence. They used to blow up gas pipelines. Now they carry out target killings. Of Punjabi settlers, government servants, even Chinese engineers any blood that the elite might care about.
To address the situation, the present civilian government had introduced the Aghaz-e-Haqooq-e-Balochistan package in November 2009, promising a ban on new military cantonments, a commission on enforced disappearances and payment of overdue gas royalties. This is exactly what was needed. But the Gilani government remains powerless in the face of the forces that continue to run and rampage Balochistan. US military aid was meant to train and equip the FC to fight the intrusion of the Taliban into Pakistan. Instead, a situation has arisen where Pakistan constantly has to hear accusations that it is sheltering the Taliban in Balochistan.
Forty years ago, the eminent sociologist, Hamza Alavi, wrote that it was the Pakistani Army itself which was most threatened by the Bengali demand for regional autonomy. The Awami League, which had an absolute majority in parliament, was committed to aiding development by decentralising economic policymaking and reducing military expenditure. Moreover, army cadres were fed the self-perpetuating delusion that Bengali nationalism was an Indian-inspired, Indian-financed and Indian-engineered move to disrupt the unity of Pakistan. This was accompanied by an added delusion that Bengali nationalism was limited to a small number of intellectuals and politicians and if they were eliminated, the obedience of the Bengali people would be restored.
These are precisely the twin delusions which were used to drive and justify a systematic campaign of violence against the Bengalis in 1971, at the hands of our armed forces and the Jamaat-e-Islami militants, alBadr and alShams. We all know the result. These are precisely the delusions that undergird the current campaign of terror in Balochistan, with new sponsored wings such as Baloch Musalah Defa Tanzeem and Sipah-i-Shuhada-i-Balochistan. Additionally, worryingly it seems that, extremist Islamic forces are being mobilised to quell the secular Baloch struggle.
Hasnt the use of radical Islam as strategic depth in Afghanistan already landed us, as well as our neighbours, in extremist depth? The biggest threat to our sovereignty is neither India nor the US, its from within, from our inability to ensure supremacy of parliament and elected civilian rule. We urgently need to have in place a system, as mandated by the constitution, where elected governments are sovereign and have control over the military and its various arms. This should be accompanied by the return of all those who have disappeared in Balochistan in recent years.
The recognition of political, economic and cultural rights for constituent regions is fundamental for any federation to survive and is central to the functioning of a modern democracy. Yet, generations of Pakistanis have been made to believe, the army-backed logic that extending these rights is the vey antithesis of modern nationhood, because it is tantamount to provincialism and destroys Pakistani and Muslim unity. This is our fundamental problem. A positive Pakistani identity can never be based on the repression and denial of the many histories and societies that, in fact, embody the life and spirit of Pakistan. All we have to do is acknowledge and respect them, instead of killing and dumping them.
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Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We're again repeating our mistakes of 1971 in Balochistan today that outsiders can take advantage off!. We must demilitarise the region and spend heavily on education, infrastructure, healthcare and employment.

Since Pakistan came into being Balochis have been living in terrible conditions, genuine protests are clamped down by the army under the garb of terrorism. They do not feel Pakistani because Islamabad has failed them for over sixty years so we must bring them into the mainstream if this problem is to be solved.
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
plz do not get impressed by such lengthy reports. facts and figures stated r incorrect. just realize that HAS THERE BEEN ANY PROVINCIAL GOVT HEADED BY A PERSON WHO HAS NOT BEEN A BALUCH OR FROM ANY OTHER PROVINCE? how about the kiling of other people serving there from Punjab and other provinces? it is all being played by terrorist of baluchistan who think that Baluchistan is JAGEER of their fathers or fore fathers.be carefull of these people.
 

zainazad

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
plz do not get impressed by such lengthy reports. facts and figures stated r incorrect. just realize that HAS THERE BEEN ANY PROVINCIAL GOVT HEADED BY A PERSON WHO HAS NOT BEEN A BALUCH OR FROM ANY OTHER PROVINCE? how about the kiling of other people serving there from Punjab and other provinces? it is all being played by terrorist of baluchistan who think that Baluchistan is JAGEER of their fathers or fore fathers.be carefull of these people.

Baluchistan is jageer of Baloch when ur army kill our innocent balochs then return also u will get dont kill us and dont think that balochistan is ur land u do what ever nobody ask u it is not possible just example if i come to ur home kick u out what u do rather u sit or kick me from ur home i u will . we are resisting ur army thats we are doing.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Baluchistan is jageer of Baloch when ur army kill our innocent balochs then return also u will get dont kill us and dont think that balochistan is ur land u do what ever nobody ask u it is not possible just example if i come to ur home kick u out what u do rather u sit or kick me from ur home i u will . we are resisting ur army thats we are doing.

I totally agree.
The Baloch land belongs to the Balochis and the Army has no business suppressing them.
The stupid people that make our Army's operational and defense doctrine have not learned anything from the East Pakistan debacle nor from the farciacl 'strategic depth' doctrine in Afghanistan. Both strategies are miserable failures which have landed us in a deep pile of sh*t. The Army should stop its subversive tactics in Balochistan before it is too late and there is no Baloch left in support of the Federation.
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
Baluchistan is jageer of Baloch when ur army kill our innocent balochs then return also u will get dont kill us and dont think that balochistan is ur land u do what ever nobody ask u it is not possible just example if i come to ur home kick u out what u do rather u sit or kick me from ur home i u will . we are resisting ur army thats we are doing.
I shall again say that it is not ur fathers property it is part of Pakistan.u Baluch r enjoying all facilities in other provinces or i would say all over Pakistan, same way every one has the right to go to BALUCHISTAN. IT IS PART OF PAKISTAN.army is of Pakistan army and it will act upon the orders of president or prime minister. who so ever challenges the sovereignty, will get a bamboo in his ...... so try to be Pakistani.
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
I totally agree.
The Baloch land belongs to the Balochis and the Army has no business suppressing them.
The stupid people that make our Army's operational and defense doctrine have not learned anything from the East Pakistan debacle nor from the farciacl 'strategic depth' doctrine in Afghanistan. Both strategies are miserable failures which have landed us in a deep pile of sh*t. The Army should stop its subversive tactics in Balochistan before it is too late and there is no Baloch left in support of the Federation.
u also read my reply above.army and govt knows their work much better than u. ask ur chief minister to bow to ur stupid demands and remarks.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
u also read my reply above.army and govt knows their work much better than u. ask ur chief minister to bow to ur stupid demands and remarks.

Im from the Punjab.

If the Army knew its bloody job then we wouldnt be having a law an order situation in the whole country. Havent you seen the news lately? the Army has been too long allowed to make policy decisions on its own. They should be booted out of the policy business and should mind the borders.

The chief minister of Kashmir is a Muslim. So next time you talk of 'independence for Kashmir' I hope an Indian comes out and tells you to shut up and tell the Kashmiris to talk to their CM.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I shall again say that it is not ur fathers property it is part of Pakistan.u Baluch r enjoying all facilities in other provinces or i would say all over Pakistan, same way every one has the right to go to BALUCHISTAN. IT IS PART OF PAKISTAN.army is of Pakistan army and it will act upon the orders of president or prime minister. who so ever challenges the sovereignty, will get a bamboo in his ...... so try to be Pakistani.

Go visit Sui and Dera Bugti and educate you ignorant self about what "facilities" are being given there.
 

jahanzaibi

Senator (1k+ posts)
Baluchistan is not a Jageer of Baloch .. baloocj us waqat kahan thay jaab pakistan bananay kay lia sachay pakistani appni jan day rahay thay
aaj unhi ki waja say Baloch ki ma behen ki izat baki hay warna wo kisi hindu kay ghar may chakri kar rahay hootay.

Baluchistan is a jageer of pakistan likin kisi ko bhi balooch ka khoon karnay ki ijazat nahi hay .. asal may isi zehan kay loogon nay pakistan to tokray kar dia hay may sarhad say uth kar
balochistan joon ya sindh mujhay her wo hookook milna chahia jo kisi sindhi ko ya baloochi ko ya pathan ko hay.

Jo Musharaf nay kia wo galat tha aur jo bhagti kar raha tha wo bhi galat tha.. sahi ya hay kay saab bahi hain aur mill kar Islam aur pakistan ki tarakki kay lia kaam kareen.

Baluchistan is jageer of Baloch when ur army kill our innocent balochs then return also u will get dont kill us and dont think that balochistan is ur land u do what ever nobody ask u it is not possible just example if i come to ur home kick u out what u do rather u sit or kick me from ur home i u will . we are resisting ur army thats we are doing.
 

niazi

MPA (400+ posts)
im from the punjab.

If the army knew its bloody job then we wouldnt be having a law an order situation in the whole country. Havent you seen the news lately? The army has been too long allowed to make policy decisions on its own. They should be booted out of the policy business and should mind the borders.

The chief minister of kashmir is a muslim. So next time you talk of 'independence for kashmir' i hope an indian comes out and tells you to shut up and tell the kashmiris to talk to their cm.
all ur post are anti pakistan so must be belonging to indian punjab,an indian member has done his job to show his sympathy to balochistan,why dont this ******* show same sympathy to kashmiries?
 

Pak Zindabad

Councller (250+ posts)
Just a reminder, Indians often are visiting Pakistani blogs pretending as Balochis to accomplish their agenda............so beaware and DO NOT mistake them as Blochi Brothers.
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
Im from the Punjab.

If the Army knew its bloody job then we wouldnt be having a law an order situation in the whole country. Havent you seen the news lately? the Army has been too long allowed to make policy decisions on its own. They should be booted out of the policy business and should mind the borders.

The chief minister of Kashmir is a Muslim. So next time you talk of 'independence for Kashmir' I hope an Indian comes out and tells you to shut up and tell the Kashmiris to talk to their CM.
i had refered the chief minister of Baluchistan.remember army is under the civil govt. ask ur govt for its use or otherwise.
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
Go visit Sui and Dera Bugti and educate you ignorant self about what "facilities" are being given there.
i have visited these areas and deep areas of Baluchistan and i know much more about these and nature of Baluch living there. since u r same Awan as Firdoose Ashiq Awan,i can make out about ur mental level. so BHAINSE K AAGE BEEN BAJANA i do not like.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
i have visited these areas and deep areas of Baluchistan and i know much more about these and nature of Baluch living there. since u r same Awan as Firdoose Ashiq Awan,i can make out about ur mental level. so BHAINSE K AAGE BEEN BAJANA i do not like.

I can assure everyone that you know squat about Balochistan. I worked for an Oil company when I visited and lived in Balochistan so I know how the federal government deals with the Baloch. Im pretty sure you have never set foot anywhere outside Quetta if you have been there at all.

Firdos Ashiq Awan tau yad aa gaye , Rana Sanaullah yad nahi raha, ya shaid wo Aflatoon ka khabba hay tumharay khyal mein!
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
i had refered the chief minister of Baluchistan.remember army is under the civil govt. ask ur govt for its use or otherwise.

Army under civil government??? Hahahahaha

Now that is a joke I can always laugh at no matter how many times ignorant nuts repeat it!
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
Army under civil government??? Hahahahaha

Now that is a joke I can always laugh at no matter how many times ignorant nuts repeat it!
yes a monk like u will laugh on it. let me tell u that u stayed at one place in Baluchistan . i have 3 tenure of about 7 years and actually participated against insurgency there . worked in special interrogation cell as well and so on. TUM SIRF BADBU DAR GAS NIKALTEY RAHEY HO AUR TAIL BAICHTE RAHE HO> working with oil company is nothing but a .......... and u think u have got experience. remember one thing that i m from a race which got 9 NISHAN E Haiders in line out of total 11. first 9 go to Rajputes and no other caste.last 2 r of Kargil.u may not know is it 11 or 10 Nisha e Haider. i bet u can not name 11 who got it. so Awan sahib stay like FIRDOS ASHIQ in the lap of PPPP and enjoy. do not CHAIRR MALANGAN NOON.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
yes a monk like u will laugh on it. let me tell u that u stayed at one place in Baluchistan . i have 3 tenure of about 7 years and actually participated against insurgency there . worked in special interrogation cell as well and so on. TUM SIRF BADBU DAR GAS NIKALTEY RAHEY HO AUR TAIL BAICHTE RAHE HO> working with oil company is nothing but a .......... and u think u have got experience. remember one thing that i m from a race which got 9 NISHAN E Haiders in line out of total 11. first 9 go to Rajputes and no other caste.last 2 r of Kargil.u may not know is it 11 or 10 Nisha e Haider. i bet u can not name 11 who got it. so Awan sahib stay like FIRDOS ASHIQ in the lap of PPPP and enjoy. do not CHAIRR MALANGAN NOON.

Idiots like you cant think beyond zaat biradri. But still kabhi Army mein bharti ka record check kerna. You will see which caste has the most recruits and especially from one area, Chakwal. But this is a silly debate. Ager zat biradri he itni bari chez hoti tau aj dunya per hukoomat wo na ker rahay hotay jinko ye bhe nahi pata hota keh unka baap kon hay yani Amreeka.
Rajput ho tau apnay ghar mein ho. Nobody gives a flying f**k.

Anyway if you really worked in special interrogation cells that means you are a tool of oppression and you probably interrogated and killed many people without trial as is happening in Balochistan these days.
The badbu dar gas and tail that you so dislike keeps this country going. The oil company I work for gives billions of rupees in revenue to the country and a lot of it is DIRECTLY taken by the government. SO the Army gets fed in a large part by the revenue we fuc*king discover!

But I guess 10 jamaat pass interrogator ko kia pata keh 'badbu daar gas aur tail' ke taqat kia hoti hay. Kabhi regional politics per nazer dalo. Ifaqa hoga.