The Ones Barking on Gen. Pasha & ISI Must Shut Up; If U Don't Intelligence Operations Just be Silent

akmal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Grow up please to discuss such issues. Just don't be useful idiot.

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لیبل لگانے سے پرہیز کریں
یہ اچھا طریقہ ہے کہ مجھ سے سوال صرف وہ کرے جسکو پتا ہے کہ ایجنسی کام کس طرح کرتی ہے؟
ایجنسی نہ ہو گئی کالی ماتا ہو گئی جس کو بے گناہ کے خون کی بھینٹ چاہیے
 

akmal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Intelligence circle ko Janay ney walay jantey Hain ke Kisi bhi mulk ka agent expose ho Jaya tu wo agency ke Lia muskal ka bias banta ha..Davis ne bohat Bari blunder mari thi..ISI ko Davis ki wajah se fayada howa..Nawaz,Zardari ke balls hi nahi they ke wo usay na chortay..Pak army khud us par FIR nahi katwa satki this..ap logo Mien koi bataya ke qatal honey walo ke behan Bhai.bachay..waldain Kahan aur kis Hal Mien Hain tu ap ko bohat si bato ka Pta chal Jaya ga..

ایک مقتول کی بیوی نہ خود کشی کر لی تھی کیوں کہ اس غریب کے اپنے ادارے اسکے شوہر کے قاتل کو سزا دلوانے سے زیادہ رہا کرنے کیلئے کام کر رہے تھے
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Do the Intelligence agencies do publications of their achievements?


they do not need too the release off RD was proof enough of there bravery, (Pasha)

MQM milatants freely getting training by Raw and getting stronger and stronger inside Karachi even under Musharrf rule this was happenning as for great Kiyani not worth mentioning much.

hundreds or maybe thousands of bombs killing innocent civilians it wasnt until Raheel Sharif that army and ISI woke up.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
they do not need too the release off RD was proof enough of there bravery, (Pasha)

MQM milatants freely getting training by Raw and getting stronger and stronger inside Karachi even under Musharrf rule this was happenning as for great Kiyani not worth mentioning much.

hundreds or maybe thousands of bombs killing innocent civilians it wasnt until Raheel Sharif that army and ISI woke up.

Busharaf the B@stard did the greatest ever harm to Pakistan by letting enemy agencies operate in Pakistan. He must be hanged in public. The damage done to Pakistan by this loser is still being controlled.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Davis case helped dismantle CIA major networks [hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

During the period RD was released to the appointment of Raheel Sharif hundfreds off bombs were going off inside PK, it wasnt until Raheel Sharif movement against terrorists that the amount of bombs went down drastically.

even if RD arrest dismantled major CIA networks on ground level not much difference had been achieved, i think it is pretty ridiculous statement to make especially after RD was released by Pasha saab and govt was involved as well.

The funny thing is drones which was the route cause problem of hundreds maybe thousands joining terror outfits happened during Musharraf period and it carried on and on until now. Establishment said nothing cocnerning this which is very evident that the whole point of drones by US was too destabalize Pakistan.

Then we have the incident off OBL when US forces came in and slapped us across the face and took a fake OBL away and then western media took the mic out of us.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Busharaf the B@stard did the greatest ever harm to Pakistan by letting enemy agencies operate in Pakistan. He must be hanged in public. The damage done to Pakistan by this loser is still being controlled.

not only Musharraf but Kiyani as well whilst hundreds and thousands of people were being killed he did nothing. Raheel Sharif ot ISPR as far as i am aware have said nothing cocnenrning CIA involvement in terror activities inside PK.

Maybe present General will stand up to the occassion, because this is national security issue related.

As for drones being hit by US even till now correct me wrong a part from Raheel acknowldegemnt that it is counter prodcutive not mcuh has been said by other generals. in fact the policy started by Musharraf has been continued by establsihement o this date, with them statying silent to CIA involvement inside PK especially after thosuanads of Shaheed people they also have to take the blame.

What would be the right thing to do in part of ISI leadership and General?

Put pressure on govt to kick out CIA operatives and make it loud and clear that ISI leadership and General do not want them here. This news should also be released in ISPR and media should talk of this on there tv programmes of the strong stance of armyand ISI

Have they done this?

NO, so sorry to say they have been following the footsteps of Musharraf policies, present and past leadership of ISI and establishment have to take some of the blame as well.

Passing the buck onto Musharraf alone is wrong I think..................
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
not only Musharraf but Kiyani as well whilst hundreds and thousands of people were being killed he did nothing. Raheel Sharif ot ISPR as far as i am aware have said nothing cocnenrning CIA involvement in terror activities inside PK.

Maybe present General will stand up to the occassion, because this is national security issue related.

As for drones being hit by US even till now correct me wrong a part from Raheel acknowldegemnt that it is counter prodcutive not mcuh has been said by other generals. in fact the policy started by Musharraf has been continued by establsihement o this date, with them statying silent to CIA involvement inside PK especially after thosuanads of Shaheed people they also have to take the blame.

What would be the right thing to do in part of ISI leadership and General?

Put pressure on govt to kick out CIA operatives and make it loud and clear that ISI leadership and General do not want them here. This news should also be released in ISPR and media should talk of this on there tv programmes of the strong stance of armyand ISI

Have they done this?

NO, so sorry to say they have been following the footsteps of Musharraf policies, present and past leadership of ISI and establishment have to take some of the blame as well.

Passing the buck onto Musharraf alone is wrong I think..................

Busharaf & his policies were cancer to Pakistan. It takes patience and time to cure such deep rooted cancer.
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We are not Barking, thats you who are pupets and time will tell or InshaAllah u will become free from USA.
by the way when it comes to deal with USA you never dare to reply.
remember when USA killed our 17 jawans they were not even order to defend them selves. and what did you do then?
you stoped their supply and in exchange you took some money from USA.
Pasha or shaitaan malik jesay bharwaon se hum nahi dertay.


Pakistan and USA are friends and allies, Ramayand Davis was a guest helping Pakistanis to hunt down terrorists.


Problem with you guys is, you think UAS is an enemy of Pakistan lol and all the terrorist sympathizers have the same narrative Mr. terrorist sympathizer!
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

ایک مقتول کی بیوی نہ خود کشی کر لی تھی کیوں کہ اس غریب کے اپنے ادارے اسکے شوہر کے قاتل کو سزا دلوانے سے زیادہ رہا کرنے کیلئے کام کر رہے تھے

Aur dosry Maktol ki beva ko usky baap ny Qatal ker dia kunky wo ameer ho gie thi aur dosri shadi kerna chati thi
 

akmal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Aur dosry Maktol ki beva ko usky baap ny Qatal ker dia kunky wo ameer ho gie thi aur dosri shadi kerna chati thi

واہ
لہٰذا آپ نے پہلے ہی اسکے شوہر کو قتل کروا دیا
مستقبل میں جو ہونا ہے وہ ماضی کے ظلم کی وضاحت کیسا بن گیا؟
 

Shah Shatranj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
لال ٹوپی کوئی بات نہیں ہماری عزت لٹ گئی ہم نے زیادتی کرنے والے کا ڈی این اے حاصل کر لیا
بے شرمی کی انتہا
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

واہ
لہٰذا آپ نے پہلے ہی اسکے شوہر کو قتل کروا دیا
مستقبل میں جو ہونا ہے وہ ماضی کے ظلم کی وضاحت کیسا بن گیا؟

Reality is her husband was a criminal and was killed by Raymond Davis in self defense. In such kind of situation even you would have killed him.

Jahalat aur Ahsas e Kamtari ky shakar Pakistanion ky hath aik gora ah gia tha, no one wanted to give him justice everyone wanted his head on platter
 

akmal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Reality is her husband was a criminal and was killed by Raymond Davis in self defense. In such kind of situation even you would have killed him.

Jahalat aur Ahsas e Kamtari ky shakar Pakistanion ky hath aik gora ah gia tha, no one wanted to give him justice everyone wanted his head on platter

نشہ تو نہیں کرتے ہو؟
اگر وہ اپنے دفاع میں قتل ہوا تھا تو دیت کس بات کی دی تھی؟
سب کو پاگل سمجھا ہوا ہے
اتنا ہی احسان کیا تھا تو پھر اتنی ہمت رکھتا نا کہ با عزت بری ہو کر دکھاتا
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

نشہ تو نہیں کرتے ہو؟
اگر وہ اپنے دفاع میں قتل ہوا تھا تو دیت کس بات کی دی تھی؟
سب کو پاگل سمجھا ہوا ہے
اتنا ہی احسان کیا تھا تو پھر اتنی ہمت رکھتا نا کہ با عزت بری ہو کر دکھاتا

Your courts and politicians were responsible for all this Drama

Being weak and opportunist became pawn in the hands of media and anti American religious right . Entire society was turned into an emotional freak and such an emotional freakish society can provide justice to no one.

Ultimately at the request of your courts and politicians , ISI stepped in to save them to further go down into this quagmire of relentless hate
 

akmal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Your courts and politicians were responsible for all this Drama

Being weak and opportunist became pawn in the hands of media and anti American religious right . Entire society was turned into an emotional freak and such an emotional freakish society can provide justice to no one.

Ultimately at the request of your courts and politicians , ISI stepped in to save them to further go down into this quagmire of relentless hate

واہ یہ اعلیٰ منطق ہے
صدقے جاۓ بندہ اس منطق کے
کورٹ اور سیاستدان ذمہ دار تھے لہٰذا ہم نے انکو استعمال کر لیا
کورٹ کو تم جیسے طاقتور ادارے یرغمال بناتے ہیں اور بعد میں انہی کورٹس کو کمزور ہونے کا طعنہ دے دیتے ہیں
جذباتی لوگ ہوئے تھے کورٹ نہیں
اس دلیل سے تو آج پورا امریکا بھی مسلمانوں کے خلاف جذباتی ہو گیا ہوا ہے. انکی عدالتیں بھی بند کر دو پھر
یہ عدالتوں سیاست دانوں میڈیا اور لوگوں کی جذباتیت اور کمزوری صرف طاقتور کے حق میں ہی کیوں جاتی ہے؟ عام عوام کیلئے بھی اسی طرح کے فیصلے کیا کرو
 

Khan Sab

MPA (400+ posts)
اس لال ٹوپی والے سے یہ پوچھو کہ ریمنڈ ڈیوس کے بدلے سی آئی اے کے ایجنٹس کو بھگایا لیکن وہ ایجنٹس آئے کیسے تھے؟ پہلے پاشا سو رہا تھا؟

We are not Barking, thats you who are pupets and time will tell or InshaAllah u will become free from USA.
by the way when it comes to deal with USA you never dare to reply.
remember when USA killed our 17 jawans they were not even order to defend them selves. and what did you do then?
you stoped their supply and in exchange you took some money from USA.
Pasha or shaitaan malik jesay bharwaon se hum nahi dertay.

What a stupid question.
The same way our agents penetrate enemy countries. Do such operators declare on their passport about their relevant agency? Check out how many Visa from how many countries were issued to these enemy agency operators without ISI clearance by the then government. Then there was Busharaf the B@stard who made Pakistan a grazing field for the hostile intelligence agencies.

Intelligence circle ko Janay ney walay jantey Hain ke Kisi bhi mulk ka agent expose ho Jaya tu wo agency ke Lia muskal ka bias banta ha..Davis ne bohat Bari blunder mari thi..ISI ko Davis ki wajah se fayada howa..Nawaz,Zardari ke balls hi nahi they ke wo usay na chortay..Pak army khud us par FIR nahi katwa satki this..ap logo Mien koi bataya ke qatal honey walo ke behan Bhai.bachay..waldain Kahan aur kis Hal Mien Hain tu ap ko bohat si bato ka Pta chal Jaya ga..

Simple bitter fact is that upper brass of Pak Army is like a Pr0stitute & can be hired by showing dollars. Pasha was one of it

Davis case helped dismantle CIA major networks [hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

During the period RD was released to the appointment of Raheel Sharif hundfreds off bombs were going off inside PK, it wasnt until Raheel Sharif movement against terrorists that the amount of bombs went down drastically.

even if RD arrest dismantled major CIA networks on ground level not much difference had been achieved, i think it is pretty ridiculous statement to make especially after RD was released by Pasha saab and govt was involved as well.

The funny thing is drones which was the route cause problem of hundreds maybe thousands joining terror outfits happened during Musharraf period and it carried on and on until now. Establishment said nothing cocnerning this which is very evident that the whole point of drones by US was too destabalize Pakistan.

Then we have the incident off OBL when US forces came in and slapped us across the face and took a fake OBL away and then western media took the mic out of us.

Mujhe ek confusion ha ager koi help ker sake to k kia RD ko phansi de k CIA network ko khatam nai kia Ja sakta tha? Un k networks khatam kerne k liye Ager koi bahana hi chahiye tha to bahana to mil chuka tha? Phr RD ki rihai k badle ye soda kiun kia gaya? Kia is wajah se ye kehna theek na hoga k hamari itni Jurrat kahan? Kia Phr khud ko Nuclear power kehne k bjaey Ghulam e America kehna sai na hoga? Phr kahe ki best Army?
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

واہ یہ اعلیٰ منطق ہے
صدقے جاۓ بندہ اس منطق کے
کورٹ اور سیاستدان ذمہ دار تھے لہٰذا ہم نے انکو استعمال کر لیا
کورٹ کو
تم جیسے طاقتور ادارے یرغمال بناتے ہیں اور بعد میں انہی کورٹس کو کمزور ہونے کا طعنہ دے دیتے ہیں
جذباتی لوگ ہوئے تھے کورٹ نہیں
اس دلیل سے تو آج پورا امریکا بھی مسلمانوں کے خلاف جذباتی ہو گیا ہوا ہے. انکی عدالتیں بھی بند کر دو پھر
یہ عدالتوں سیاست دانوں میڈیا اور لوگوں کی جذباتیت اور کمزوری صرف طاقتور کے حق میں ہی کیوں جاتی ہے؟
عام عوام کیلئے بھی اسی طرح کے فیصلے کیا کرو

Sorry I am not an ISI agent
 

akmal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mujhe ek confusion ha ager koi help ker sake to k kia RD ko phansi de k CIA network ko khatam nai kia Ja sakta tha? Un k networks khatam kerne k liye Ager koi bahana hi chahiye tha to bahana to mil chuka tha? Phr RD ki rihai k badle ye soda kiun kia gaya? Kia is wajah se ye kehna theek na hoga k hamari itni Jurrat kahan? Kia Phr khud ko Nuclear power kehne k bjaey Ghulam e America kehna sai na hoga? Phr kahe ki best Army?

انکی منطق کے مطابق اگر ریمنڈ ڈیوس کو اتفاقاً وہ دو موٹر سائیکل سوار نہ ملتے تو پاکستان میں سی آئی اے کا نیٹ ورک ختم نہ کیا جا سکتا
لہٰذا لال ٹوپی کے اس نمائندے واڈائچ کے مطابق ایجنسیز اسی طرح تیر تکے پہ کام کرتی ہیں