Imran Khan, what have u done, i am speachless, the way situation is developing for Qadri and u have invested and sacrificed so much and now ended in a disastrous way, very bad , Khan sahab, u must consult with others in party, i know for sure, Inamullah Niazi was in favour of joining Qadri but u have done the blunder, whatever ur vision is, is fine and respect that but how can u implement all this for not being in power
TAHIR AL QADRI'S LONG MARCH THREAD - (Post all updates here)
mahmoodriaz
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Well done Dr.Tahir ul Qadri.............IK has disappointed me..............if u dont trust...listen crowd in ground complaining that what IK was to do has been done and achieved by Dr.TUQ
Sohraab
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Qadri ke jalse main to musharraf ke supporters bhi shamil hain
aap chahte hain Imran khan aik aise jalsay main shamil ho jai jo America ke Isharon par ho raha hai ??
Ali raza babar
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: قادری ڈانس کلب
Meray Alfaz badaltay nahi hein .. Aik bat kehta hon to us per Qaim rehta hon beta ..
Tum bongian marna choro .. Jawab do just agar Debate kerni hai .. Nahi kerni to fazool waqt barbad na kero na mera na apna
Meray Alfaz badaltay nahi hein .. Aik bat kehta hon to us per Qaim rehta hon beta ..
Tum bongian marna choro .. Jawab do just agar Debate kerni hai .. Nahi kerni to fazool waqt barbad na kero na mera na apna
Achieved what.............................dont you tell me that there are 5 million ppl as quated by Qadri...........Nothing will change overnight bro......you believe in changing faces then go ahead and do that.
Dont say that...................evolution is a slow process.........unlike Qadril who is on his annual leave and wants to fix everything in a month time.
why has he dissapointed you, is it because he stood up to these crooks for years and years and telling people how much crooks they are, or is it because he speaks against the drones that are hitting our innocent people, or is it because PTI is doing intra party elections. What about bringing the attention of drones in foreign media.
What would u have liked him to do be a poodle and run behind TUQ, despite NO contact originally made by TUQ and knowing well that his supporters did not want him to go.
What exactly has dissapointed you about Imran Khan?
By someone gate crashing the change movement all of a sudden IK is NO good hey?
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wmahmooood
Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: قادری ڈانس کلب
Sir jee.... jawab me de chukaa hooon.. aap ki aqal me samaj nahi aayi to dobara de deta hooon.....Aam murdo me aur shaheedo me farq he....
ab yeh mat kehna ke "haan ya naa me jawab doo"
yeh koi kon banega crorepati nahi chala raha ke closed questions ka close hi answer ho
Sir jee.... jawab me de chukaa hooon.. aap ki aqal me samaj nahi aayi to dobara de deta hooon.....Aam murdo me aur shaheedo me farq he....
ab yeh mat kehna ke "haan ya naa me jawab doo"
yeh koi kon banega crorepati nahi chala raha ke closed questions ka close hi answer ho
اسلام آباد جانا زندگی کی آخری خواہشات میں &am
پینتیس سالہ محمد سلیم کا تعلق پنجاب کے علاقے شورکوٹ سے ہے وہ بھی پہلی مرتبہ اسلام آباد آئے ہیں، انہوں نے کہا کہ اُن کا منہاج القران سے کوئی تعلق نہیں ہے وہ تو صرف اپنے علاقے کے بااثر شخص نوید سیال کے کہنے پر آئے ہیں۔ اُنہوں نے کہا کہ اُن سمیت بیس افراد علاقے سے آئے ہیں جو روزانہ اُجرت کی بنیاد پر کام کرتے ہیں وہ بھی پہلی بار اسلام آباد آئے ہیں۔
ڈاکٹر طاہرالقادری کے لانگ مارچ میں شرکت کرنے والے کچھ افراد ایسے بھی ہیں جنہیں منہاج القران کے سربراہ کے ایجنڈے سے کوئی غرض
نہیں ہے بلکہ وہ صرف پاکستان کا دارالحکومت اسلام آباد کو دیکھنے آئے ہیں۔
ساٹھ سالہ گُلاب خان بھی ایسے ہی افراد میں شامل ہیں جو زندگی میں پہلی بار اسلام آباد آئے ہیں۔
گُلاب خان کا کہنا تھا کہ اگرچہ اُن کے پاس اتنے پیسے نہیں ہیں تاہم کھانے پینے کی اُنہیں اس لیے فکر نہیں ہے کیونکہ لانگ مارچ کے شرکاء بڑی مقدار میں کھانے پینے کی اشیاء اپنے ساتھ لائے ہیں اس لیے وہ ان سے لےکر کھا لیں گے
اُنہوں نے کہا کہ رات کے وقت انہوں نے بلیو ایریا میں واقع قریبی مسجد میں جاکر آرام کیا جہاں پر لانگ مارچ کے سینکٹروں شرکاء بھی آرام کی غرض سے موجود تھے۔ یاد رہے کہ ڈاکٹر طاہرالقادری نے اپنے خطاب کے دوران شرکاء سے حلف لیا تھا کہ وہ آرام نہیں کریں گے۔ ضلعی انتظامیہ کے مطابق سینکڑوں شرکاء نے آرام کی غرض سے فیصل مسجد کا بھی رخ کیا جن میں خواتین بھی شامل تھیں
’اسلام آباد جانا زندگی کی آخری خواہشات میں شامل‘
شہزاد ملک
بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام، اسلام آباد
شہزاد ملک
بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام، اسلام آباد
پینتیس سالہ محمد سلیم کا تعلق پنجاب کے علاقے شورکوٹ سے ہے وہ بھی پہلی مرتبہ اسلام آباد آئے ہیں، انہوں نے کہا کہ اُن کا منہاج القران سے کوئی تعلق نہیں ہے وہ تو صرف اپنے علاقے کے بااثر شخص نوید سیال کے کہنے پر آئے ہیں۔ اُنہوں نے کہا کہ اُن سمیت بیس افراد علاقے سے آئے ہیں جو روزانہ اُجرت کی بنیاد پر کام کرتے ہیں وہ بھی پہلی بار اسلام آباد آئے ہیں۔
ڈاکٹر طاہرالقادری کے لانگ مارچ میں شرکت کرنے والے کچھ افراد ایسے بھی ہیں جنہیں منہاج القران کے سربراہ کے ایجنڈے سے کوئی غرض
نہیں ہے بلکہ وہ صرف پاکستان کا دارالحکومت اسلام آباد کو دیکھنے آئے ہیں۔
ساٹھ سالہ گُلاب خان بھی ایسے ہی افراد میں شامل ہیں جو زندگی میں پہلی بار اسلام آباد آئے ہیں۔
گُلاب خان کا کہنا تھا کہ اگرچہ اُن کے پاس اتنے پیسے نہیں ہیں تاہم کھانے پینے کی اُنہیں اس لیے فکر نہیں ہے کیونکہ لانگ مارچ کے شرکاء بڑی مقدار میں کھانے پینے کی اشیاء اپنے ساتھ لائے ہیں اس لیے وہ ان سے لےکر کھا لیں گے
اُنہوں نے کہا کہ رات کے وقت انہوں نے بلیو ایریا میں واقع قریبی مسجد میں جاکر آرام کیا جہاں پر لانگ مارچ کے سینکٹروں شرکاء بھی آرام کی غرض سے موجود تھے۔ یاد رہے کہ ڈاکٹر طاہرالقادری نے اپنے خطاب کے دوران شرکاء سے حلف لیا تھا کہ وہ آرام نہیں کریں گے۔ ضلعی انتظامیہ کے مطابق سینکڑوں شرکاء نے آرام کی غرض سے فیصل مسجد کا بھی رخ کیا جن میں خواتین بھی شامل تھیں
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Ayaz Ahmed
Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: روزانہ اجرت پر لانگ مارچ
BBC Urdu link.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2013/01/130115_longmarch_visit_islamabad_ka.shtml
BBC Urdu link.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2013/01/130115_longmarch_visit_islamabad_ka.shtml
Ali raza babar
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: قادری ڈانس کلب
TO bhai phir aap so jao .. 2 jama 2 char kero bus .. Choro Yeh batain ...
Seedha seedha poocha hai .. kia shaheed Zinda hota hai ya nahi ? To bus .. Is ka aik hi jawab ho sakta hai ya han ya na ..
TO bhai phir aap so jao .. 2 jama 2 char kero bus .. Choro Yeh batain ...
Seedha seedha poocha hai .. kia shaheed Zinda hota hai ya nahi ? To bus .. Is ka aik hi jawab ho sakta hai ya han ya na ..
gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Moral of the Story!!!
lo ji khud hi dekh lo, yeh kis karwat baitha hai :biggthumpup:
lo ji khud hi dekh lo, yeh kis karwat baitha hai :biggthumpup:
View from Washington: D-Chowk is no Tahrir Square, at least not yet
In Washington, Tahirul Qadris D-chowk is not seen as comparable to Cairos Tahrir Square. It is not yet seen as an event that could bring about a major political change in Pakistan, as the Tahrir Square did in Egypt.
The uprising in Cairo had the entire American nation in its grips. For weeks, it was front page news in all major newspapers in the United States and also dominated all big television channels.
The popularity of the demand for a change forced the Obama administration to use its influence to persuade former Egyptian president Hosni Mobarak to step down. The US administration also had a role in preventing the powerful Egyptian military from using force against the protesters.
Also for weeks, the developments in Cairo remained a key subject in daily news briefings at the White House, State Department and Pentagon.
Compared to this, Dr Qadris march has not yet caught the attention of the American public. Some newspapers did report the event but carried only news agency copies on their inside pages. The electronic media also showed little interest.
Spokespersons at the White House, the State Department and the Pentagon offered no comments and even journalists did not raise the issue at regular news briefings.
There was no emergency meeting of the presidents security cabinet, as was held during the Egyptian uprising, and theres no indication that Washington plans to send an official to Islamabad to learn more about the Qadri march.
The general feeling at Washingtons think tanks, and in diplomatic circles, is that President Asif Ali Zardari will survive this crisis as well, as he did other similar crises in the recent past.
Experts on Pakistan affairs at Washingtons think tanks say that even if Mr Zardari is forced to step down, there will be no military takeover. Instead, the military will prefer to bring an interim government of technocrats and back it from behind the scene.
Washington will react angrily if theres a military takeover and may impose strict economic sanctions, which the Pakistani military would want to avoid at all cost. They realise that any sanction at this stage will have disastrous consequences for the Pakistani economy.
But the US reaction to a civilian change will likely be mild, particularly now when the present government has almost completed its tenure.
Diplomatic observers in Washington say that the Obama administration will make no effort to push or protect Mr Zardari. Like most Pakistanis, the Americans also see Mr Zardari as a corrupt and unpopular leader and will not like to be identified with him. But they will also not like to be seen as working against an elected government.
While the US administration is treading cautiously, Pakistanis living in America are not. The long march dominates all conversations at community gatherings, with some welcoming it as a move that may end a corrupt government while others opposing it as a development that will increase the influence of religion in politics.
Another cleric, seeking a piece of the political pie, this is definitely not a welcome development, said Mohsen Bashir Awan of Falls Church, Virginia, when asked to comment. People need food, clothes, homes, jobs and electricity, not another fake change.
Even an MPA needs 60,000 voters to get elected and Mr Qadri wants to topple the government with 50,000 people, said Agha Raza Ali of Brookfields, Virginia. Pakistan has established political parties, they will not allow a new entrant to steamroll them.
Zahid Ali of Germantown, Maryland, believes this will pass. Nobody, least of all the army, wants to topple Mr Zardari so close to the election. This will be a big political concession to him.
But Abdur Rauf, also of Brookfields, Virginia, said those who have come from across Punjab for this dharna, will not leave like this. This is the end of the Zardari government.
Shahid Husain of Washington suggested that Dr Qadri was brought because Imran Khan failed to play his role. Mr Zardari and Nawaz Sharif played him well. So a dark horse was brought in.
Some commentators suggested that the protest will lead to the formation of a supra-judicial body to supervise the government and the Chief Justice will head this body after retirement.
Others suggested that now was the time for Bilawal Zardari to become active and challenge Dr Qadri, although they also acknowledged that he was too young to do so.
Najma Siddiqi, another Pakistani living in Washington, said she learned from a senior person in Pakistan about 12 months ago that things will get better. The process will not be disrupted, but we will get good people.
http://dawn.com/2013/01/15/view-from-washington-d-chowk-is-no-tahrir-square-at-least-not-yet/
In Washington, Tahirul Qadris D-chowk is not seen as comparable to Cairos Tahrir Square. It is not yet seen as an event that could bring about a major political change in Pakistan, as the Tahrir Square did in Egypt.
The uprising in Cairo had the entire American nation in its grips. For weeks, it was front page news in all major newspapers in the United States and also dominated all big television channels.
The popularity of the demand for a change forced the Obama administration to use its influence to persuade former Egyptian president Hosni Mobarak to step down. The US administration also had a role in preventing the powerful Egyptian military from using force against the protesters.
Also for weeks, the developments in Cairo remained a key subject in daily news briefings at the White House, State Department and Pentagon.
Compared to this, Dr Qadris march has not yet caught the attention of the American public. Some newspapers did report the event but carried only news agency copies on their inside pages. The electronic media also showed little interest.
Spokespersons at the White House, the State Department and the Pentagon offered no comments and even journalists did not raise the issue at regular news briefings.
There was no emergency meeting of the presidents security cabinet, as was held during the Egyptian uprising, and theres no indication that Washington plans to send an official to Islamabad to learn more about the Qadri march.
The general feeling at Washingtons think tanks, and in diplomatic circles, is that President Asif Ali Zardari will survive this crisis as well, as he did other similar crises in the recent past.
Experts on Pakistan affairs at Washingtons think tanks say that even if Mr Zardari is forced to step down, there will be no military takeover. Instead, the military will prefer to bring an interim government of technocrats and back it from behind the scene.
Washington will react angrily if theres a military takeover and may impose strict economic sanctions, which the Pakistani military would want to avoid at all cost. They realise that any sanction at this stage will have disastrous consequences for the Pakistani economy.
But the US reaction to a civilian change will likely be mild, particularly now when the present government has almost completed its tenure.
Diplomatic observers in Washington say that the Obama administration will make no effort to push or protect Mr Zardari. Like most Pakistanis, the Americans also see Mr Zardari as a corrupt and unpopular leader and will not like to be identified with him. But they will also not like to be seen as working against an elected government.
While the US administration is treading cautiously, Pakistanis living in America are not. The long march dominates all conversations at community gatherings, with some welcoming it as a move that may end a corrupt government while others opposing it as a development that will increase the influence of religion in politics.
Another cleric, seeking a piece of the political pie, this is definitely not a welcome development, said Mohsen Bashir Awan of Falls Church, Virginia, when asked to comment. People need food, clothes, homes, jobs and electricity, not another fake change.
Even an MPA needs 60,000 voters to get elected and Mr Qadri wants to topple the government with 50,000 people, said Agha Raza Ali of Brookfields, Virginia. Pakistan has established political parties, they will not allow a new entrant to steamroll them.
Zahid Ali of Germantown, Maryland, believes this will pass. Nobody, least of all the army, wants to topple Mr Zardari so close to the election. This will be a big political concession to him.
But Abdur Rauf, also of Brookfields, Virginia, said those who have come from across Punjab for this dharna, will not leave like this. This is the end of the Zardari government.
Shahid Husain of Washington suggested that Dr Qadri was brought because Imran Khan failed to play his role. Mr Zardari and Nawaz Sharif played him well. So a dark horse was brought in.
Some commentators suggested that the protest will lead to the formation of a supra-judicial body to supervise the government and the Chief Justice will head this body after retirement.
Others suggested that now was the time for Bilawal Zardari to become active and challenge Dr Qadri, although they also acknowledged that he was too young to do so.
Najma Siddiqi, another Pakistani living in Washington, said she learned from a senior person in Pakistan about 12 months ago that things will get better. The process will not be disrupted, but we will get good people.
http://dawn.com/2013/01/15/view-from-washington-d-chowk-is-no-tahrir-square-at-least-not-yet/
