Tahir Al Qadri addressing a big gathering at Minar Pakistan - *Video Added*

MunchyMike

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Tahir Al Qadri addressing a big gathering at Minar Pakistan

What's the gaurantee after elections Tahir ul Canady will run away to Canada and will return for next elections
to make a change again?
 

maksyed

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Tahir Al Qadri addressing a big gathering at Minar Pakistan


O Yaar, ma to Altaf bhai ka deweena hu
;);) Mehwish Khush hoti hai Altaf bhai ka avtar dekh kar isliya mena badla hai ;);)
dost in avatars kay baaray main kiya khiyal hain aap kaa ..... ;)

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such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: QADRI GIVEN ULTIMATUM TO THE GOVERNMENT UNTIL 10th JANUARY

Your criticism first part has many valid points.
What I git was that he was trying to first lay out that the current "democracy" is not valid.
His demands in the last part of speech were more precise i.e about caretaker setup , Army at polls.

But you are right via a press release he should put forward his exact demands to clear confusion.

On the sectrian stuff.i dont know much about Tahirul Qadri but in this speech religiously speaking I dont think he said anything objectionable or divisive.
His main message was political.[HI] Maybe we should judge the message rather then the messenger in this instance[/HI].

No brother....we cant judge a person's message by keeping aside the core part of his personality
He is a religious person and he belongs to a religious cult... that's his basic identity
 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Tahir Al Qadri addressing a big gathering at Minar Pakistan

Very impressive show.
Crowd was huge given the weather very impressive.
Mostly poor and working class people which shows the organizational capabilities Minhaj ul Quran has build up over the years.
A long but good speech.

I think he is being genuine. Given the halafs he took in the start.
It was good because it focused on root causes of social injustice and class warfare not simple party politics.
He is trying to not take any political sides but wants political change by forcing certain measures.
His demands need a little more clarity though. From what I can deduce.
He wants a caretaker setup to include other political parties + Judiciary and Army.
To have a clean technocratic neutral caretaker setup
And then some delay for a proper election, with strict enforcement of constitutional electoral requirements by ECP.
Along with more powers to ECP.

These are not unreasonable demands.
That many other political forces outside parliament can and I think must support.
Bcoz, their is zero doubts about G anja papi and Zoordari Mukmuka and their plans to rig the next elections.
This has build up a certain momentum that can either fizzle out or turn into something much bigger.

Excellent observations, TQ is another blow to the ruling mafia, I am with TQ inqalaab from now on
 

darkinsky

Banned
Re: Tahir Al Qadri addressing a big gathering at Minar Pakistan

ye loooo 50 lakh ka majmaa


only leader Imran Khan faces his people without Bolit proof glass

has taliban threatened imran khan with death threats?

this was the reason why the guy went to canada in the forst place, doesnt it seem logical?

do you want him to lay down his life?
 

Pak1stani

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Tahir Al Qadri addressing a big gathering at Minar Pakistan

And when did Taliban retract death threats to Tahir Qadri that he is now back? ;)


has taliban threatened imran khan with death threats?

this was the reason why the guy went to canada in the forst place, doesnt it seem logical?

do you want him to lay down his life?
 
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Re: Tahir Al Qadri addressing a big gathering at Minar Pakistan

Iss "makhsus tabqay" ki tareef kijiye, aapkay jawab ka baysabri say intezaar kerunga, aapka bhai aur azeez Arif Alvi urf Karachi kay woh "tabqay" wala
jin kay shanakthi card mqm kay ghundo kay pass hotay hen jinkay ghar ka atleast 1 banda jalsay mein ana zarori hota hye warna unki band baja de jati hye. badmaashi to khatam hye atlaf bhai per.bara pesa kama leti hye mqm bhuta khori r street crimes say
 

optimist4u

Citizen
Re: Tahir Al Qadri addressing a big gathering at Minar Pakistan

i dame care if its imran khan, tahir ul Qadri or who ever.. if they are talking and thinking about Pakistan my support is with them i don't follow individual personalities, but the thought and vision they present.. as far as today's jalasa is concerned i think what ever he is saying is absolutely correct. we also want fair and free elections and it is possible if and only if people of Pakistan stand for it. we know that deep down in our heart that the two major parties will not let the elections to be fair and free.

while wathing it on tv i was saying to my father that "ab log khainge ke azan ka jawab nahi dia ya azan ke waqt khamosh raha".. etc and jo log ye bol rhe hain ke he should support PTI to kya App PtI wale isse support kr rhe hain 14 jan ko??? isne awam ko bulaya hay... chahe koi practicl effect ho ya na ho zeda se zeda logu ko wha jma hoke ye dikhana hoga ke we really want change.. meri nazr me ye kuch is thra ka imthan hay ke agr logu ki tada zeda hoti ha to means Pakistan ki Awam is crrupt systm se nijat chati hay fair and free election and new leadrship chati hay ya ke issi currpt systm ke andar inhi nooru or madariyu ko khud pe muslat dekhna chahti hay...

i belive even if you dont support Tahir ul Qadri or Even Imran Khan but u want Change in Pakistan.. and you support the thought of Change in the Sysstm of Pakistan then is "awam ki Parliment me zeda se zeda logu ko hona chahye to show the every status co party and every power who dont want change in Pakistan that, We the Poeple of Pakistan Want Change... we want new Pakistan..."
 

optimist4u

Citizen
i am shocked with shafqat mehmood response on TV what Tahir Ul Qadri is Saying will only Help PTI, Because what ever every supporter of PTI is saying DIl me ye Khiyal Zror hay ke ye Currupt Toolla itni Asnai se nahi harega or Fair and Free elections nahi huge.. mere khial me only if the system is free from corruption mafia, PTI can earn Maximum seats in elections warna ye dar hay ke jese log kthe hain ke ye 10 se 15 saeats bhi lay jain to bht hoga, ye sach na hojaye... .. .and mein ye nara kabhi nahi laguga ke PTI zinda bad or IMran khan or X,Y, Z zinda bad.. Mani khta hu SIrf Pakistan Zindabad.. or App???
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: QADRI GIVEN ULTIMATUM TO THE GOVERNMENT UNTIL 10th JANUARY


یعنی آزاد فعال اور غیر جانبدار الیکشن کمیشن
یہ مطالبہ تو تمام سیاسی جماتیں کر رہی ہیں..سواۓ برسر اقتدار پارٹیوں کے

مگر قادری صاحب کی تقریر کا خلاصہ یہ نہیں
قادری صاحب الیکشن سے پہلے جاگیردارانہ نظام، پولیس کا نظام، مالیاتی نظام اور انصاف کا نظام درست کرنے کی بات کرتے ہیں

ہ(قبروں کا نظام جہاں عوام کے دین پر ڈاکہ مارا جاتا ہے اسکی بات نہیں کرتے جہاں کے یہ سب سے بڑے ڈاکو ہیں
;)
اگر الیکشن سے پہلے یہ سب درست ہوجاے تو یہ سب درست کرنے والے کو سلام اور اسی کو اقتدار میں رہنے کا حق ہے
عوام کو کالے کتے نے کاٹا ہے جو الیکشن کروا کر پھر نااہلوں کو اقتدار سونپ دیں

تو ثابت ہوا
قادری صاحب ایک کنفیوزڈ شخص ہیں
(bigsmile)

وحشت میں دیوانے کو سب الٹا نظر آتا ہے
مجنوں نظر آتی ہے لیلیٰ نظر آتا ہے

جو چول قادری صاحب نے آج ماری ہے اس سے بڑی چول کوئی جمہوریت کا علمبردار نہیں مار سکتا
قادری صاحب سیاست میں یا مسند اقتدار میں داخل ہونے کا چور دروازہ ڈھونڈھ رہے ہیں اور کچھ نہیں

اور دوسرا پہلو یہ ہے کہ شاید وہ کچھ نیا لے آنے کے چکر میں ایک نئی ڈش متعارف کروارہے ہیں
جسے کھانے کے بعد ہیضہ کے امکانات زیادہ ہیں



Bro, I don't think you read my post properly. I said I only watched part of his speech, only the fag end of it.
I heard two issues which he was addressing at the time.

1- Problem of voting fraud, like in the recent by-elections, I have already described it in first post.

2- Second problem of suitability and legality for some members of parliament to hold their seats.

Let's take the example of the Sahiwal NA seat. Apart from voter fraud, the man elected was made to resign from his seat because of his fake degree.

Here is the fundamental issue of a crime here. Even though the condition of degree is removed by the new amendment to the constitution, therefore according to that rule, he should have been eligible to take part in the elections. Provided, and this is the crucial part, he had not committed the fraud of submitting a fake degree. Surely someone who defrauds the electoral system purposefully and deliberately is a criminal.
Please tell me how a criminal can be eligible to stand for a parliamentary seat in the parliament?

Shamefully, these by elections happened after this new ECP is formed, under Justice Fakhiruddin. Was he sleeping that he allowed a criminal to stand in a by elections?

I told you, I am not Mr Qadri supporter. I could have hundreds of disagreement on theological and religious issues with Mr Qadri. But here we are not discussing religion or theology.

I was hoping IK would raise these issues with ECP and request to disqualify such people who have won the by elections. PTI still have chance to do so.

If they don't, mark my words PMLN would run away with the elections by committing large scale voter fraud. The image of one of newly elected parliamentarian doesn't go from my mind. He recently said in a TV program, it doesn't matter how votes were cast, the bottom line is I delivered what I had been told to do by the leadership.
This man, the new MNA from Sahiwal happened to be someone from UK. After his picture was displayed and someone pointed to the fact he is the owner of "Lahori Tandori" in Tooting, I realise I know this man for years. Almost for two decades. He had served me enough "Curries" in the past, when his restaurant was new and before he made huge money. Why I am saying it is because he is definitely holding British nationality, which means he had not been truthful in his submissions to ECP for by elections too.

I hope you understand my points. I am not favoring Qadri or backing his call for wholesale changes, or postponement of the elections. But that the lessons should be learned from recent by elections. If the lessons not learned, PTI would end up as loser. They may have to restore to street demonstrations afterwards when it is too late. Why not do it before the elections so it could be fair?
 

Urooj_lbw

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
i think, as Hassan Nisar said, Tahir ul Qadri should back up Imran, like 2nd line of defence, goal should be to break the status quo, if u r successfull to break the status quo, u have solved 80 % problems of Pakistan
 

N.Khan511

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Tahir Al Qadri addressing a big gathering at Minar Pakistan

You need to grow up. Imran Khan is Taliban Khan and so far he has no threat from Taliban.

Dr. Tahir Qadri openly condemn Taliban and issued a fatwa against militant way of Islam. Tahir Qadri is on target by TTP so you want him to be dead just like Bilour.

wat abt ur nawaz *****?.....even he didnt utter a single word against taliban,then y he always stay behind the bullit proof glass?......it is nt da criteria dear........
 

N.Khan511

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Tahir Al Qadri addressing a big gathering at Minar Pakistan

Pakistan kisi kay baap ki jageer nahi

Nahi, mujhse ghalati hui, maaf kijiye ga, yeh waderon, badmaash aur raashi afseraan, haramkhor saisatdaan aur jageerdaron kay baapon aur angrez kay talway chaatnay walay dadaon (grandfathers) ki jageer hai

Khair, baat lambi ho gayi, likhnay ka maqsad yeh tha kay har kisi ko haq haasil hai kay woh siasat main hissa lain aur aam awaam yani riyayah ko bewaquf aur gadha bana ker apni bari lain, mulk loot nay kay liye, bahar jaidaad bana nay kay liye aur ayaash aulaadon ki tayari kay liye

Main aap sab say binti kerta hun kay yeh haq in badmaashon say na cheenain, inhain yeh haq virasat main mila hai, aap sab kyun ikhtilaaf ker rahay hain inkay is bunyadi haq kay hasool say?

Sharam kerain laikin kaisay ker saktay hain? Sharam tumko magar nahi aati

oo bhai kehna kya chahtay ho or kis say kehna chahtay ho?.......r u supporting qadri's mantaq?.......he is not here to bring reforms,but to spoill elections.........he has been launched by establishment dis time...........if u agree wid him,den can u answer me,how dese reforms can be implimented,widout being da part of parliment?..............siasat se riasat bachanay ka tu suna tha,siasat bhool k riasat bachanay ka khawb establishment previously boht dafa kar chukki hai..............so he is asking for some gap/khalla....which definitly army gonnna fillll............inko agar nizaam ko badlna hai tu nizaam main enter ho k badlain..........bahir khaday ho k naaray marnay se kuch nahi hoga...........agar kisi party se nahi banti inki tu akelay ladain election or phir apni batain manwain........islamabad ko jam kar k seedhi seedhi army ko dawat denay wali baat hai bhai.........so in k dramay pe na jain.........apni aql istemaal karain
 

Muskerahat

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Tahir sahib key Taqreer was like wasting time . just one thing he said MUK MUKA. thats was it.
I just waste time to listen his speech. he got big crowed but nothing there any word go in heart.
nothing imporatant he said.
 
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irfanali

Senator (1k+ posts)
ACHA KHASA CROWD HAI YAAR LAYKIN AGAR INHAY VOTE NA MILAY TU( KIO K AGAR TARRAQI PE YAQEEN RAKHNA HAI TU VOTE TU SIRF IMRAN BHAI KO DAYNA HAI)----- ZARA SOCHIYE ., PHIR NOCHIYE(bigsmile)
 

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