Syed Munawar Hassan statment and your opinion

Muslimonly

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

Taliban to murtad hain wo shaid kasay ho saktay hain koye is p@gal mullah say pochay.

masajid aur mazaron par hammly karny walay shahid kasay ho saktay hain .


Jab bhi taliban kuTt!a marray issy "Jhanum raseed ho gya" kahna chaye.

نہ ان سے یہ سوال پوچھا گیا اور نہ کلپ میں ہے

گزارش ہے کہ جو ٹوپک ہے اس پر رائے دیں ؟؟؟؟


کیا
افغانستان میں مرنے والے امریکی فوجی شہید ہیں یا نہیں ؟

اور کیا کوئی بھی جو امریکا کا ساتھ دے ، وو مرے تو شہید ہو گا یا نہیں ؟؟؟؟
 

Muslimonly

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

We are no one to grant the certification of Shaheed or not Shaheed only ALLAH SWT knows and HE is the one WHO will grant them their ranks, so better not to comment on this topic. We have no knowledge infact, only ALLAH SWT knows better...WALLAH ALAM

یہی وجہ تھی کہ سید صاحب نے کہا کہ میں خود یہ سوال مفتی سے پوچھنا چاہتا ہوں اور خود فتویٰ نہیں دیا
 

Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

امریکی فوج اور اس کا ساتھ دینے والے جماعت اسلامی کے مجاہد افغان جنگ میں شہید تھے یا نہی ؟



جماعت اسلامی نے امریکا کا ساتھ نہیں دیا ، افغان بھائیوں کا ساتھ ضرور دیا ،جو لوگ افغانستان مے روس کے خلاف لڑتے جان بحق ہوۓ سب شہید ہیں ، ضیاء الحق نے ٣ سال بعد افغانستان کا ساتھ دینا شروع کیا ،اور اس وقت سے امریکا کی مداخلت شروع ہوئی، حقایق تو یہ ہیں جو سب کو تسلیم کرنے چاہئیں
 

Sedqal

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion


Lolz....

i just want to say:

Get out of this war....

Why we are supporting USA to kill Muslims in afghanistan??????

How are we supporting USA in killing Afghanistanis? USA has been saying for a decade that Pakistan is helping Afghan Taliban that is why there has been limited success against them. Karzai also say that groups like Haqqani are protected by Pakistan that is why insurgency is not ending. The journalists from KPK/ FATA also say the same that many groups are not touched by Pakistan Army as they are used in Afghanistan.

So please tell me if we are helping the Afghan Taliban or USA.
 

Muslimonly

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

Amrica ke madad karna na karna Government decide karti hai na ky fauj.

PaK Army ko jo Government ke taraf say order miltay hain on par amal kartay hain.

Aur agar aik fauji apni duty kartay hoye jahan ba haq hota hai to beshak wo shaihd hota hai , yahi armed jehad hai to fauji dusham ky khelaf kartay hain.

Munawar hassan aik confused mullah hai.

شہید کی وضاحت کر دیں ...

کیا صرف ملک کی حفاظت کرنے والا ہر فوجی شہید ہوتا ہے ؟؟؟؟؟؟

چاہے وہ امریکی ہو ؟؟؟؟؟
 

Muslimonly

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

So please tell me if we are helping the Afghan Taliban or USA.

I want to know

Who is giving arm supply to nato forces????

Who is giving intelligence support??????

plz dont be childish...its on record


btw read any afghan taliban statment, they have requested Pak Army to not to support usa many times
 

JusticeLover

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion


نہ ان سے یہ سوال پوچھا گیا اور نہ کلپ میں ہے

گزارش ہے کہ جو ٹوپک ہے اس پر رائے دیں ؟؟؟؟


کیا
افغانستان میں مرنے والے امریکی فوجی شہید ہیں یا نہیں ؟

اور کیا کوئی بھی جو امریکا کا ساتھ دے ، وو مرے تو شہید ہو گا یا نہیں ؟؟؟؟

American sahid nahi ho ja.

Par jo amreica sath Hakem lula mashood jasay dehatgard ko marnay ky ley day so madad karny wala agar muslman ho aur mara jay to zaroo shahid kahlye ga.

Zalim ke khelaf larty hoye marnay wala shahed hota hai aur murtad taliban zalim hain.
 

mnalam49

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion



جماعت اسلامی نے امریکا کا ساتھ نہیں دیا ، افغان بھائیوں کا ساتھ ضرور دیا ،جو لوگ افغانستان مے روس کے خلاف لڑتے جان بحق ہوۓ سب شہید ہیں ، ضیاء الحق نے ٣ سال بعد افغانستان کا ساتھ دینا شروع کیا ،اور اس وقت سے امریکا کی مداخلت شروع ہوئی، حقایق تو یہ ہیں جو سب کو تسلیم کرنے چاہئیں
Saaf kaho na keh jab kabhi dollor milein gey jumaat e islami ko to ab woh jahad ho ga agar jumaat ko dollor nahin milein gey to woh jahad nahin hota....jumaat kee misal bhi tawaif jaisi hee hai ...paisa phenk tamasha dekh
 

Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

Amrica ke madad karna na karna Government decide karti hai na ky fauj.

PaK Army ko jo Government ke taraf say order miltay hain on par amal kartay hain.

Aur agar aik fauji apni duty kartay hoye jahan ba haq hota hai to beshak wo shaihd hota hai , yahi armed jehad hai to fauji dusham ky khelaf kartay hain.

Munawar hassan aik confused mullah hai.

منور حسن یہ ہی بات کر رہے ہیں اس میں کہ اس کا جواب دیا جائے ، مسئلے کو ہر پہلو سے دیکھا جائے ، آپ کی اس بات سے اتفاق ہے کے فوج کو حکومت کی مرضی سے بھیجا جاتا ہے ،لیکن اس فوج کو اس آزماش میں کون ڈال رہا ہے ؟


الله کا فرمان سچا ہے اور حکمرانوں پر پورا اترتا ہے ،چاہئے وہ پاکستان کے ہوں ،یا ساری اسلامی دنیا کے
 
Re: SMH statment and your opinion



جماعت اسلامی نے امریکا کا ساتھ نہیں دیا ، افغان بھائیوں کا ساتھ ضرور دیا ،جو لوگ افغانستان مے روس کے خلاف لڑتے جان بحق ہوۓ سب شہید ہیں ، ضیاء الحق نے ٣ سال بعد افغانستان کا ساتھ دینا شروع کیا ،اور اس وقت سے امریکا کی مداخلت شروع ہوئی، حقایق تو یہ ہیں جو سب کو تسلیم کرنے چاہئیں

ڈالر لے کر ساتھ دیا۔ ۔۔ ۔
امریکہ کا ساتھ نا ہوتا تو کبھی جنگ نہی جیت سکتے تھے۔ امریکی اسلحے سے جیت ہوئی ۔

اب بتاو۔ طالبان جو مسجد میں خودکش کرتے ہیں۔ خود کش کرنے والا شہید ہے یا مسجد میں مرنے والا نمازی شہید ہے ؟

 

Muslimonly

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

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Saaf kaho na keh jab kabhi dollor milein gey jumaat e islami ko to ab woh jahad ho ga agar jumaat ko dollor nahin milein gey to woh jahad nahin hota....jumaat kee misal bhi tawaif jaisi hee hai ...paisa phenk tamasha dekh


lolz watch this...



By the way , abhi bhi USA with 40 countries is in Afghanistan????

has she won war??????
 

Sedqal

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

I want to know

Who is giving arm supply to nato forces????

Who is giving intelligence support??????

plz dont be childish...its on record


btw read any afghan taliban statment, they have requested Pak Army to not to support usa many times

You are the one being childish, the whole world knows that Pakistan is supporting Afghan Taliban. It has been documented numerous times and you have groups like Haqqani within Pakistan who have been identified time and again.
 

Sedqal

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

lolz watch this...



By the way , abhi bhi USA with 40 countries is in Afghanistan????

has she won war??????

What do you mean win the war? Do you have any idea how many Muslims have died as compared to US soldiers? US has destroyed the whole country. What exactly do you mean by US success, they will succeed when they kill every last Muslim in Afghanistan or what.
 

Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

Saaf kaho na keh jab kabhi dollor milein gey jumaat e islami ko to ab woh jahad ho ga agar jumaat ko dollor nahin milein gey to woh jahad nahin hota....jumaat kee misal bhi tawaif jaisi hee hai ...paisa phenk tamasha dekh

Ye tawaif wali sift pakistan ke hukamranoon men hain.our sub librls our fashists men poi jati hai...............wese Amreeka bara bewqoof hai yo dolor bhi de apni mukhalfat bhi kerwaie...........zabardast.
Bhai un tawaifoon se jan churaion ye sub bari tawaif amreeka ki gode men hain our app yese masoon us tawiaf ka tamasha dekhte hain muft men.

 

Aijazahmed

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

1- As far as I know, a common and ordinary army personnel , who does not take any part in any kind of decision making but just obeys the order of the Islamic state and protects his Muslim fellow citizens and in doing so, if killed in the line of duty is not MURDAR, he is SHAHEED. This is the responsibility of ameerul momineen , shoora and Sipah Salar to decide about the war and obey the orders is the duty of the soldier.

2- If the theory of Munawwar Hassann is right then all the arm forces should be withdrawn from the work and leave Pakistan's soil for enemies to come into the country and invade without any resistance.

3- Now question arises here, if Talibans are Pakistan's enemies or not? In the present available evidences, yes they are our enemies because they have openly said in several times that they don't agree with Pakistan's constitution and Pakistani state. This is the same state where SMH lives and his Jamat is one of the contributor of writing its constitution. (The late Prof. Ghafoor signed the document on behlf of jamat, this is the constitution which is bound to work under the law of Quran and Sunnat).Talibans declare the same system of Pakistani state and its constitution is KAFIRANA. In taibans terms jamat has signed a Kafirana constituetion.

4- Talibans are the enemies of Pakistan because they have killed thousands of Pakistanis and have admit the crime openly.

5- Talibans are enemies of Pakistan because their new cheif Fazlullah lives in Afghanistan and has been declared an Indian and Afghan Govt. agent by Gen. Hameed Gul. The same Gen. Hameed Gul is a close friend of SMH and a big sympathizer of Talibans.

6- We are not having any affair with Yahood o nasara and we are not going against Quran (naozu billah). We are dealing with Americans on the basis of international relationships. Prophet (PBUH) also had Sulah -e Hudabiya with Kuffars, because it was necessary to run the Islamic state on that time. Pakistan cannot live without these relationships right now. We cannot afford to declare war with everyone in the world. Pakistan has its priorities and it acts upon them accordingly. This is a normal practice in foreign affair issues. Every other country has to take care of it own affairs. If Pakistani govt. is wrong in its policies then the people of Pakistan have a right to change their govt. through democratic process.

7- Why not Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other wealthy Islamic states break their close ties with Kuffars? Why not they withdraw all of their wealth from american banks? Why they have americans everywhere in all over Saudi Kingdom and Arabian peninsula? why don't they kick all these americans out of the kingdom?

8- Why not Talibans start war against Saudi Arabia and Kuwait who are the best friends of Americans. Pakistan is a BHOOKA NANGA country, it has to rely on american trades and aids but what is stopping Saudis to break their ties with america? what is their compulsion? Why Munawwar Hassan and Talibans do not declare Jehad against Saudis as they have more close ties with amricans than Pakistan? Everyone knows the answer, nothing to say here on that.

9- Now what is your say when Pakistani people, jamati workers, Afghan mujahideen and Pakistani army were taking help from americans and fighting against Russians in 1980s in Afghanistan and were being killed in that war, were they SHAHEED or MURDAR? Please answer this.

Thanks
 

barca

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

اس کو پاگل خانے بیج دو خلاصی مکے
روز نیا شوشہ چھوڑ دیتا ہے انی دا

دہشت گردی کو ختم کرنا ہے تو ان جیسوں کو پہلے لتر مارو
 
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mnalam49

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

Ye tawaif wali sift pakistan ke hukamranoon men hain.our sub librls our fashists men poi jati hai...............wese Amreeka bara bewqoof hai yo dolor bhi de apni mukhalfat bhi kerwaie...........zabardast.
Bhai un tawaifoon se jan churaion ye sub bari tawaif amreeka ki gode men hain our app yese masoon us tawiaf ka tamasha dekhte hain muft men.

Haan aap logon ka tamasha ghaur sey dekh raha hon...mujhey to is baat par bohot afsos hey keh college key zamaney mein jamiat key leyey itni marein keon khai hain...merey chacha afghanistan key nam nahad jahad mein keon gaya...merey abbu akhir tak jumaat ka parcham thamey rakha...aaj mera dil jumaat sey nafrat karney par majboor hai...merey abbu ney akhir waqt tak jumaat ka sath nahin chora even key jumaat key zeli tanzeem tahreek e mehnat swat ka president tha. par i am sorry to my abbu but mein majboor ho gaya hon is jumaat sey intehai nafrat karney par yeh 50000 pakistanion key qatilon ko shaheed keh rahi hai aur jo apney watan key leyey jo apney mulk key leyey jan nachawar karey woh shaheed nahin hain ...mein aisey party ko disown karta hon aur apney ghar sey is jumaat se related har qisam ko litrature jo ham hamaisha bachpan sey parhtey ayey hain usko bedakhal karta hon aisi munaaafiqeeen sey hamara koee talooq aur wasita ab nahin raha
 

mnalam49

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: SMH statment and your opinion

lolz watch this...



By the way , abhi bhi USA with 40 countries is in Afghanistan????

has she won war??????
America yahan koee mustaqal qabza karney nain aya...usney jo maqsat hasil karna tha kar leya mujhey aik baat batao america ney veitnam par hamla keya tha keya woh musalman they jiss ney america ko nikal bahir keya ya amrica khud withdraw ho gaya...afghanistan taliban koe narala kaam nahin kar rahey hain...bahir sey jo bhi force ati hai usko naturally wapas jana hota hai...america iraq ayee saddam ka safaya keya chali gayee...america afghanistan aye usama key pechey woh mardala ab usney ky key akarna hai yahan...america vietnam otey chotey addon mein haiaha par nahin hai bus chotey chotey addon mein hai...dunya mein koee aisa mulk batao jo dosrey mulk par aaj kal mustaqal qabiz ho...koee misal batao...har mulk charai karta hai apney maqsad key leyey aur phir jana hota hai koee mulk chahey muslim ho ya gher muslim usko bahar jana hota hai...taliban koee narali cheez nahin hain...par yeh pakistani taliban kiss sey lar rahey hian apney he aam logon sey....aur phri yeh ********** kahtey hain keh woh jahad kar ahey hian kaisey kaisey log hain ...we damand to ban jumaat islami in pakistan
 

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