should shia muslims leave pakistan?

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gotti

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My friend you are strange, you move the goalposts in each reply, why ?

You have gone from Killings of Shia, to Cabinet Ministers in Iran's Parliament

Then its about supporting Syria or not.

Finally I have NO IDEA what you are saying here. Seems you have lost it somewhere

" Lastly, as I said above, Sunnis don't believe in Hazir Imam's existence, then why is it that during Khutbahs of Khamenei, he cries to Imam Zaman?"




Your thoughts views beliefs and prejudices are of little concern to me. You can be wahabi sunni shia or whatever you like.

My argument with you about the way you are constantly distorting things and presenting them as factual Like that 0.01% of jews figure, where do you get that ? Out of thin air ? Randomly what pops into your head

Now you can stick to the BASIC topic of YOUR assertion or we can leave this because you are entertaining because you seem like a hybrid of bigotry hypocracy arrogance with a big ingredient of ignorance thrown in for good measure


Not much content, just as before. A storm of words and when the dust settles, there is nothing. You have refused to answer the question about political involvement of Sunnis in Iran, which justifies my belief that you are an extremist who doesn't believe Sunnis are Muslims.

Therefore, it has been proven to the whole world that what you are looking for is to show Sunnis as non-Muslim. I wonder what the other side is doing with regards to you?

They are saying the same thing about you. This definitively proves that you both are extremists that don't believe the other is Muslims and killing each other and forcing bystanders such as myself to pick a side and by God, Muslims in Pakistan will not let you create a civil war like in Iraq or Syria.

The figures are from the Anti-Defamation League that says there are a 100 Naturei Karta. As per the American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise, there are 5,000.

Altogether, there are 13 million Jews. Go do the math. By the way, the point till stands, where has a single Jew agreed with you?

In an extremist cult, sometimes you feel you are right, the world hates you because it is a challenge by God and they will go to hell because that's how it works.

Once, you face reality, you realize that things are actually much different in the real world.

I understand that if you were given the opportunity to study anything outside of selected extremist material, you would know that there is no faith among Sunnis by the name of "Wahabbi". I know who you refer to when you say it but I don't think there is anyone who claims to be Wahabbi.

If we don't know who you are referring to when you say Wahabbi then wait, well, who ARE you referring to when you say that?

Also, I am not an extremist, I am saying that we have Azaan for two times, two Eids, permission of Juloos, President, Speaker everyone Shi'a that live freely but why is it that in Iran, they don't do the same thing to accommodate Muslims?

You keep pointing at the killings. I said before, I am not going to showcase that material here because that will create hatred for you and I don't want that and neither do you.

I don't believe in sharing videos that spark the sentiments of people and indirectly incite them to do unacceptable things but extremists from your sect have been.

If you had answered the question regarding names of Sunni officials that are prominent in legislation and other high-ranking officials in the Irani army, parliament, etc...that I asked you before, it would've been sufficient to prove to you that you are an example to follow in Iran and Pakistan should live by it.

But, Iran is a worse example than Israel because even Israel has mosques in Tel Aviv and Haifa (try to prove me wrong) whereas you don't in major Iranian cities. Also, even Israel has Sunni Arab MPs unlike Iran. Even Sunnis are allowed to serve in Israeli Army but in Iran, no.

If Iran isn't an example to follow then condemn it just as strongly as you are condemning the killings in Pakistan.

Also, why are you not condemning the killings of people in Karachi or KP or the Army or the FC but ONLY those that have the same sect as you.

It is quite clear to everyone who has had the opportunity to glance over this thread and even you that you are a closed-minded, self-interested extremist who deserves pity more than anything else...definitely not hatred
 

coolhaider

Minister (2k+ posts)
(clap)(clap)(clap)[hilar] dont wanna get into it, but be quite sure he exposed himself many times. in your blind hate you would bring anything...:)

we unite people, you divide

مسلمان ہی بٹتا ہے اسکا دین ہے
جسکا کوئی دین نہیں وہ ایک ہے
 
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gotti

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But Osama bin laden was not Iranian, he was saudi ..

Iran shows middle finger to West and jews and can fight them ..

but saudis are helping Israel/US

see the filth
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where as saudis are traitors .. saudi were involved in 9/11 attacks . but nobody attacked them ... they sent osama to Pakistan for a purpose .. and all of us have seen that filth in Afghanistan by killing millions of muslims ... so saudi riyals ..

BTW i belong to a sunni family .. before you publish penny fatwa against me ..


Why should we hate US and Israel?

If we are to accept what you're saying then that would mean Iran is getting supported by Russia and we should support Russia?

We don't want to fight Jews and Christians. They are Ahl-e-Kitab. If you are Sunni and you support Iran, please ask them to let the VP of Iraq come back.

Please ask them to present the killer of Rafiq Hariri. Please ask them to let Sunni have a government position and in the army and in their own provinces.

Please stop with your hate.
 

jagga9

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
[MENTION=10205]Waseem[/MENTION] [MENTION=4936]Adeel[/MENTION] [MENTION=9841]Faiza[/MENTION] [MENTION=8592]Malik495[/MENTION] [MENTION=23179]TruPakistani[/MENTION] please close down this thread, its not making any difference but its providing few of the opportunists to increase the division within muslims .. so whenever we will be fighting each other rather than our common enemy ... .
[MENTION=22657]lafatah[/MENTION] bro .. we do sympathise with the shiites brothers and its the same grief any of the brother has on this. But I believe we will call it sacrifices when we will have a prosperous Pakistan . we cannot convince some thick heads to stop killing but we can stop hatred to spread.
 

coolhaider

Minister (2k+ posts)
اس فورم پر آج تمام اسلام دشمن ظاہر ہو گئے ان کو غور سے دیکھ لو
اور یاد کرلو یہ نا ہو پیٹھ پر وار کردیں
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
read @gotti post 74. your kind type of people gave pakistan nothing but sectarianism.

Now that is funny you call me a sectarian. Considering it was your lot who created one most recently. If that is not sectarianism then what it

Secondly I find it laughable that you have fallen for Gooti's little sympathy trick. Are you telling me that he and you are now on the same side. An Ahmadi and Wahabi, in pursuit of what exactly. You should both take a cold shower, because that happens very rarely

They think YOU are Kafir and YOU think every one else who does not believe in the Punjabi Prophet is Kafir. Glad you guys found some common ground. Hating someone YOU ASSUME is Shia
 

QaiserMirza

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
But Osama bin laden was not Iranian, he was saudi ..

Iran shows middle finger to West and jews and can fight them ..

but saudis are helping Israel/US

see the filth


where as saudis are traitors .. saudi were involved in 9/11 attacks . but nobody attacked them ... they sent osama to Pakistan for a purpose .. and all of us have seen that filth in Afghanistan by killing millions of muslims ... so saudi riyals ..

BTW i belong to a sunni family .. before you publish penny fatwa against me ..



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gotti

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Now that is funny you call me a sectarian. Considering it was your lot who created one most recently. If that is not sectarianism then what it

Secondly I find it laughable that you have fallen for Gooti's little sympathy trick. Are you telling me that he and you are now on the same side. An Ahmadi and Wahabi, in pursuit of what exactly. You should both take a cold shower, because that happens very rarely

They think YOU are Kafir and YOU think every one else who does not believe in the Punjabi Prophet is Kafir. Glad you guys found some common ground. Hating someone YOU ASSUME is Shia

I will not tolerate you calling me "Wahabbi". Prove to me what Wahabbi is...define it and then tell me how I fulfill those categories?

You have stooped to a new low. All I did here was promote interfaith harmony and peace and you go on to tell me that I am Wahabbi...?

I know what you're doing and so does everyone who is reading this thread...

BTW, bringing up an Ahmadi has nothing to do with this...

It is in the UK, where you live so peacefully where all Ahmadis reside...are you going to go out in the streets and call them "Kaafir" there?

Stop your hate
 
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I am truly hurt and sad!! You rightly pinned that why Muslims can not progress.

"Shajar hay firqa arayee,taassub hay samar iska
ye wo phal hay jo jannat se nikalwata hay adam ko"

Haram-e-Pak bhi Allah bhi Quran bhi ek
kuchh bari baat thi hote jo Musalman bhi ek"


"Firqa bandi hay kaheen aur kaheen zatein hain
kya zamane mein panapne ki yahee batein hain"

"Tum syed bhi ho Mirza bhi ho Afghan bhi ho
tum sabhi kuchh ho batao ki musalman bhi ho"

- Allama Muhammad Iqbal; the greatest Muslim philosopher on downfall of Muslims. They would NEVER learn it, Sir.
 
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gotti

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اس فورم پر آج تمام اسلام دشمن ظاہر ہو گئے ان کو غور سے دیکھ لو
اور یاد کرلو یہ نا ہو پیٹھ پر وار کردیں

Zara khul kay boliye kaun hain woh Islam dushman?

Fatwa jaari kernay say pehlay apnay rab ko haazir naazir jaan ker bataye kay aap us position main hain kay kisi per aisa ilzaam lagain?
 

jee_nee_us

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistani Nation is too divided , too disturbed , too frustrated and too violent. The stamina to co exist with differences is non existent and if goes like that the day is not far when Pakistan will be divided into small countries and many. Religious intolerance , sectarian intolerance , linguistic intolerance etc , karachi has been seeing blood for only God knows how long and then this shiite sect killings is another episode of the on going killings.

Saying All this , all hope is not lost. The government needs to find the specific groups which are doing the killings , it is not the common people of pakistan who are killing shias. There are groups with more harmful objectives and only hiding behind the sectarian differences. I have a lot of differences with shias but I can definiely co exist harmoniously with shias and so do most of the pakistanis. We need to identify the groups like Sipah Sahaba and other violent teams who are killing the innocent pakistanis. Hope this issue is resolved soon.
 
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gotti

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I am truly hurt and sad!! You rightly pinned that why Muslims can not progress.

"Shajar hay firqa arayee,ta’assub hay samar iska
ye wo phal hay jo jannat se nikalwata hay adam ko"

Haram-e-Pak bhi Allah bhi Quran bhi ek
kuchh bari baat thi hote jo Musalman bhi ek"


"Firqa bandi hay kaheen aur kaheen zatein hain
kya zamane mein panapne ki yahee batein hain"

"Tum syed bhi ho Mirza bhi ho Afghan bhi ho
tum sabhi kuchh ho batao ki musalman bhi ho"

- Allama Muhammad Iqbal; the greatest Muslim philosopher on downfall of Muslims. They would NEVER learn it, Sir.

Great words. Its unfortunate that you think like this, yet, you came out and "liked" this man's post

اس فورم پر آج تمام اسلام دشمن ظاہر ہو گئے ان کو غور سے دیکھ لو
اور یاد کرلو یہ نا ہو پیٹھ پر وار کردیں
 

Babatank

Senator (1k+ posts)
مسلمان ہی بٹتا ہے اسکا دین ہے
جسکا کوئی دین نہیں وہ ایک ہے
those who believes in Allah and His messenger are ONE and united. We have a Imam and we are all over the world united. we live and die for Islam, but we never deprive others of the most basic human rights. this is the REAL Islam and not the way you practice...! ;)
 

Babatank

Senator (1k+ posts)
It is in the UK, where you live so peacefully where all Ahmadis reside...are you going to go out in the streets and call them "Kaafir" there? Stop your hate
NOT ALL, BUT MANY. in Germany lives more Ahmadis than in UK... just for the fact ;)
 
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