Shahid Nama - 25th August 2011- Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad - "Did the 'Two Nation Theory' become irr

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mind also saying the same thing to our 'khuda k noor' members using all sorts of filth towards Marvi Sirmed, Zardari etc ??!!

or is the tameez "conditional"?

Tameez is essential for all matters, those who become budtameez are motivated by the lies and innuendos and deliberate use of wrong information to spread hatred. Lies based on selective presentation of facts is a distortion and is not acceptable to a rational human.

Still one should always be manner full and present facts based on decency and honesty and not to rile people's emotions.
 

xs2zee

New Member
We "Muslims of subcontinent" ask this country from Allah All Mighty and HE revealed it on 27th of Ramadaan on the chase ball of the world, now after 64 years the people like Marvi and organizations like SAFMA are teaching us how we should behave in Geo politics and in our internal matters !...... They are just like dumb, deaf and blind these idiots don't know any thing, no person or group or party or Agency in this world can run this country, except who revealed it.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Is two nation theory valid? It is valid or not can only be discussed if we first of all understand what two nation theory is as was explained by its proponents. The two nation theory was thought of, proposed and used by some indian muslims to get a piece of land under muslim jurisdiction so that the quranic rule of law could be implemented in there in order to make it as an exemplary state for the world to see, so that mankind could see and realise what islam and muslims were all about as regard wider humanity.

Two nation theory was not about creating a piece of land to accommodate muslims only. It is for this reason no major indian leader muslim or nonmuslim ever told any people to migrate rather they were told to stay put.

Whatever bloodshed resulted was either due to misunderstanding by people themselves or was caused by misinformation and disinformation amongst communities by the elements that could benefit from such chaos. This in no way could be started by muslims in india because they were a minority in india and in places wherein they lived. Likewise it could not be started by nonmuslims on pakistan side of the border because here nonmuslims were a minority in places wherein they lived.

So creation of pakistan was not about causing animosity between hindus and muslims nor about taking any land from india because the land muslims got for their jurisdiction was the land on which muslims were already living.

The only and only reason for which creation of pakistan was deemed necessary was just a piece of land for muslims to implement islam as it was understood by its founder in order to try and get humanity out of its problems.

http://www.parwez.tv/dowquominazaria.html


The do qomi nazriya had four phases a)get land b)implement islam c)make progress and prosper to become an exemplary country in the world and d)to invite other countries to do the same ie get rid of ignorance, poverty and disease on one hand and become progressive and prosper.

The first phase succeeded and they got pakistan but then ruling elite and mullas took over and here we are after breaking up of half of pakistan. Breaking up is still not a big issue if we could show our bangla deshi brothers by example how to progress and prosper by means of proper islam. Once we both implement islam the 2nd phase of ideology would be complete and then the 3rd phase is working hard for putting the country very high on the world map. After that people would be able to see what we have by following divine rule of law so they may even follow suit all by themselves without our invitation for their own good. After all, all nations follow those who do something that makes them worthy and great.

79 Surah an Nazi'at Ayah 01 To 05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TqPVfiWabw&feature=related

79 Surah an Nazi'at Ayah 06 To 26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hheis2gHcSk&feature=related
 

JPDrain

Citizen
Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sirmed -- about the fall out beyond debate

Learn to Differ, Not Despise
What compelled me to write this piece was a recent spat between Zaid Hamid (modern self professed revolutionary) and Marvi Sirmed (liberal journalist). Both participated in a talk show (link given below) on a private Pakistani news television. Main topic of the show died in first few minutes and then verbal wrangling continued on various subjects where they differ the most. Read More
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nadeemcma

Citizen
Re: Shahid Nama with Dr Shahid Masood - 25th August 2011 - Zaid Hamid Vs Marvi Sarmad

I am not a follower of ZH but still wanna say that he has completely exposed Ms Marvi Sermed when she refused to condemn the slaughter going on in Indian occupied Kashmir and concentrated whole heartedly on Balochistan issue....(clap)
 
Really plzd to see a well read, confident and forthright PAKISTANI lady..impressive. She has correctly highlighted our problem of being MORE worried for our muslim brethren outside our geographic borders than those suffering at our own hands.May ALLAH save PAKISTAN from these extremists and hawks.
 

Husaink

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
mar-vi sirmid ko agar ghaur se dekha jaye to is ka chehra to "hanuman ji"
aur dhar yani neche ka hissa "ganesh ji" yani "ghanpati baba muriya" jaisa
hai, lehaza ghabranay ki baat nhin yeh bani hi "bharat mata ki raksha"
ke liye hai:p:p