Salat in the Quran

[Wake up Pak]

تم پچاس آوازوں کی پوجا کرو

Kiya toum is hadith key bhi puja karo gaay?

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet once offered the prayer and said, "Satan came in front of me and tried to interrupt my prayer, but Allah gave me an upper hand on him and I choked him. No doubt, I thought of tying him to one of the pillars of the mosque till you get up in the morning and see him. Then I remembered the statement of Prophet Solomon, 'My Lord! Bestow on me a kingdom such as shall not belong to any other after me.' Then Allah made him (Satan) return with his head down (humiliated)."
Sahih Bukhari 2:22:301

 

[Citizen X]

The sense is simple: Q A QA

Thats what its suppose to be. You quoted my question, didn't answer it instead just asked another question. So when you answer that question I reiterate I will gladly answer any question you might have. Seems like you're the one whose doing all the dodging here.

 

[Wake up Pak]

شکر ہے میں آوازوں کا پیروکار نہیں ہوں

Toum siaraf Dr Israr key awaz kay pujari ho

 

[atensari]

Toum siaraf Dr Israr key awaz kay pujari ho

شکر ہے پچاس آوازوں کا پجاری نہیں ہوں

 

[Citizen X]

Why you don't want me to quote Quran if you do not accept anything out of Quran?

Since you asked THIS question before you quoted my hadith challenge question I will gladly answer this. Although I believe this was already answered, and which is actually the whole subject of this thread, but anyways. The salah that is mentioned in the Quran is NOT what you consider to be your 5 daily namaz's if it were Allah would have put down the detailed method of performing such ritual prayer, after all Allah says the Quran is a detailed book then how could he leave out the details of the most important "pillar" of Islam. So either Allah forgot or there is no such thing as what you call the 5 daily ritual prayers. Now its up to you to decide which one is it because there can be no BUT it is in the hadith or it is in the sunnah of the prophet, since once again Allah tells us and commands us that there is no sunnah other than sunnat ul Allah and no other sunnat other than this is to be followed.

 

[Wake up Pak]

Since you asked THIS question before you quoted my hadith challenge question I will gladly answer this. Although I believe this was already answered, and which is actually the whole subject of this thread, but anyways. The salah that is mentioned in the Quran is NOT what you consider to be your 5 daily namaz's if it were Allah would have put down the detailed method of performing such ritual prayer, after all Allah says the Quran is a detailed book then how could he leave out the details of the most important "pillar" of Islam. So either Allah forgot or there is no such thing as what you call the 5 daily ritual prayers. Now its up to you to decide which one is it because there can be no BUT it is in the hadith or it is in the sunnah of the prophet, since once again Allah tells us and commands us that there is no sunnah other than sunnat ul Allah and no other sunnat other than this is to be followed.

I asked this fool the following question:

"Let me ask you a simple question, the word Zakat is usually attached to Salat, how come we do not pay the so-called 2.5% Zakat five times a day?"
Did Allah even forget to write the simple "2.5%" Zakat?
Read the inheritance verses, where Allah has given the details down to fractions.

 

[Citizen X]

I asked this fool the following question:

"Let me ask you a simple question, the word Zakat is usually attached to Salat, how come we do not pay the so-called 2.5% Zakat five times a day?"
Did Allah even forget to write the simple "2.5%" Zakat?
Read the inheritance verses, where Allah has given the details down to fractions.

Logic, common sense and clear Quranic verses escape them. Will do everything under the sun to defend their outdated traditions and hadith books. But you can bet that they neither pray 5 times regularly if ever NOR have read much hadith let alone any complete compilation even from their beloved and "authentic sahih sittah"

 

[Sohail Shuja]

Since you asked THIS question before you quoted my hadith challenge question I will gladly answer this. Although I believe this was already answered, and which is actually the whole subject of this thread, but anyways. The salah that is mentioned in the Quran is NOT what you consider to be your 5 daily namaz's if it were Allah would have put down the detailed method of performing such ritual prayer, after all Allah says the Quran is a detailed book then how could he leave out the details of the most important "pillar" of Islam. So either Allah forgot or there is no such thing as what you call the 5 daily ritual prayers. Now its up to you to decide which one is it because there can be no BUT it is in the hadith or it is in the sunnah of the prophet, since once again Allah tells us and commands us that there is no sunnah other than sunnat ul Allah and no other sunnat other than this is to be followed.

Spineless blabber again. I am really impressed by your stamina and capability of producing crapola.

Again: Why you asked me not to quote Quran, while you yourself do not accept anything out of Quran.

I did not ask what the prayer/salah is or is not. Neither did I ask for any clarification about whether the Salah is Sunnat ul Allah or not.

I asked this fool the following question:

"Let me ask you a simple question, the word Zakat is usually attached to Salat, how come we do not pay the so-called 2.5% Zakat five times a day?"
Did Allah even forget to write the simple "2.5%" Zakat?
Read the inheritance verses, where Allah has given the details down to fractions.

Watch your mouth you twig jumping baboon. You were asked even a simpler question:
If you say that it is not required to have every detail of the prohibited substances like Opium in Quran, then why do you guys insist upon having details about Namaz? Do you think Allah (SWT) is short of words on things as dangerous and serious like Opium & other addictions? This is a more serious matter than Namaz because it involves a person & his family's whole lives. What significance does namaz has in contrast?

But instead of an answer, you started puking out all the chickenshit you had been mucnhing on all your life.

 

[Wake up Pak]

Spineless blabber again. I am really impressed by your stamina and capability of producing crapola.

Again: Why you asked me not to quote Quran, while you yourself do not accept anything out of Quran.

I did not ask what the prayer/salah is or is not. Neither did I ask for any clarification about whether the Salah is Sunnat ul Allah or not.



Watch your mouth you twig jumping baboon. You were asked even a simpler question:
If you say that it is not required to have every detail of the prohibited substances like Opium in Quran, then why do you guys insist upon having details about Namaz? Do you think Allah (SWT) is short of words on things as dangerous and serious like Opium & other addictions? This is a more serious matter than Namaz because it involves a person & his family's whole lives. What significance does namaz has in contrast?

But instead of an answer, you started puking out all the chickenshit you had been mucnhing on all your life.

Oh No! I appear to have stepped on your wagging tail.
Man up and answer about the Namaz; if you return to your senses, you may continue; otherwise, just shut up and enjoy your Opium, you imbecile.

 

[Citizen X]

Again: Why you asked me not to quote Quran, while you yourself do not accept anything out of Quran.

Well you could have just said this and it would have been enough and easier for me too, instead of having through go through that huge pile of drivel you just splatted out, clearly your mental midgetry and worthless sense of self superiority cannot even comprehend matter presented to you in the most simplest of terms and theconstant lies, back peddling and goal changing must be getting tiresome even for you now.

I NEVER said don't quote me the Quran. But I did say don't tell me your twisted traditional and misguided rituals that have been brainwashed into your tiny little pea brain come from the Quran, because they don't. Unless you CAN QOUTE ME ANY VERSE OF THE QURAN that gives a detailed version of how many salahs in a day be it 3, 5 or 50, how many rakhahs in each of those salahs, what actions to perform in sequence during the salah and what to recite and and what stage of said salah.

Now I have answered your question and provided ample clarification against your false allegation against me in more than one post so now its your turn to answer the challenge I posted and you involved your self voluntarily by quoting it.. I know you wont because you can't and will just carry on with more cheap insults and heck load of the usual drivel just to make you feel good about yourself. So I really won't be holding my breath waiting for any relevant answers from you.

 

[Citizen X]

Oh No! I appear to have stepped on your wagging tail.
Man up and answer about the Namaz; if you return to your senses, you may continue; otherwise, just shut up and enjoy your Opium, you imbecile.

And just to add a little more insult to that injury, these mushriks really can't simple concepts. I even mentioned it clear as day. But their brains are clouded over by their hubris ( and mostly because none of them any interest or remotely tolerant of anyone elses POV or argument) and always in a hurry to get out their next salvo of insults they just skip over whatever someone else has to say.

But just to make it clear for anyone who is not an imbecile like these mushirks who might be reading this thread. I reiterate that rather than satisfying the stupidity of such morons and listing one by one and by name things that are halal and haram and turning the Quran into nothing but a huge impractical glossary list. Allah in his infinite wisdom and this wise and thinking creation simply mentions the few things and things of certain criteria that a haram.

Quran 4:43 : O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants (khamr), gambling, [sacrificing on] stone altars [to other than God], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful.

So SoojaHuwa Sohail's beloved Afheem clearly comes under the category of khamr i.e intoxicants.

 

[Wake up Pak]

And just to add a little more insult to that injury, these mushriks really can't simple concepts. I even mentioned it clear as day. But their brains are clouded over by their hubris ( and mostly because none of them any interest or remotely tolerant of anyone elses POV or argument) and always in a hurry to get out their next salvo of insults they just skip over whatever someone else has to say.

But just to make it clear for anyone who is not an imbecile like these mushirks who might be reading this thread. I reiterate that rather than satisfying the stupidity of such morons and listing one by one and by name things that are halal and haram and turning the Quran into nothing but a huge impractical glossary list. Allah in his infinite wisdom and this wise and thinking creation simply mentions the few things and things of certain criteria that a haram.

Quran 4:43 : O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants (khamr), gambling, [sacrificing on] stone altars [to other than God], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful.

So SoojaHuwa Sohail's beloved Afheem clearly comes under the category of khamr i.e intoxicants.

When it comes to their traditionalist religious views, the majority of Muslims just cannot accept the other person's point of view and will argue in vain or close their eyes like a pigeon.

 

[Citizen X]

When it comes to their traditionalist religious views, the majority of Muslims just cannot accept the other person's point of view and will argue in vain or close their eyes like a pigeon.

Extreme Intolerance is specially a trait of desi's. No one is asking you to change your beliefs or do anything drastic based on one video or on one post by someone overnight instantly, it's meant to start a thought process, and if someone is so strong in his beliefs surely it can withstand some questioning.

Simply have the ability to listen to what someone else is saying, even though you complete disagree with in and in a civil manner present your counter argument why you think that someone else is wrong.

The second the cheap insults come out, you know that person has lost because he has no counter argument but will none the less try to "win" and show you down with his cheap insults.

In fact every so called born Muslim should question his beliefs as to why he is a Muslim, is it simply because he was born into a Muslim household and told to be so. Or did he actually study Allah's message and was fully convinced that this is indeed a devine revelation and does this devine revelation corroborate what he has been taught and told to practice as part of deen.

 

[Sohail Shuja]

Oh No! I appear to have stepped on your wagging tail.

What an hackneyed wailing of a scratchy old street hound ....
These puns are as lame as your arguments

Man up and answer about the Namaz; if you return to your senses, you may continue; otherwise, just shut up and enjoy your Opium, you imbecile.

Oh .... the tiny toon wants me to man up? ..... ha ha ha ..... what a shitload of provocation!

Look, I am not the type whom you can lead to a puddle of mud and then beat him on your homeground by experience.

Meaning by, I am not the one to whom you'll just provoke by asking "tell me about your namaz & tell me about your hadith & bla bla" .... I am the type who wants to know first " what's the deal here? why do you want this conversation? what is the takeaway?"

Now stop wailing like an old crack street hooker who had just been denied to be even courted for free

When you have the answer to: Why do you not want any references from Quran about the prayers? then come back and you will have your guts all filled up to satisfaction

 

[Sohail Shuja]

When it comes to their traditionalist religious views, the majority of Muslims just cannot accept the other person's point of view and will argue in vain or close their eyes like a pigeon.

Actually, Munnay, you do not have a point behind your view.

At one point you will deny having details about something in Quran and on the other one, you will ask for each and every detail to be present.

The motive of your notion of bringing up this is not seeking for truth, but only a psychological satisfaction that you derive out of mocking out others; a sort of revenge of being buggered by a deviant hadithist. There is something not in its natural shape inside your head and below.

 

[Citizen X]

I asked this fool the following question:

What did I tell you man.

now its your turn to answer ..... I know you wont because you can't and will just carry on with more cheap insults and heck load of the usual drivel just to make you feel good about yourself.

The second the cheap insults come out, you know that person has lost because he has no counter argument but will none the less try to "win" and show you down with his cheap insults.

Haldi ram 2.0

 

[Sohail Shuja]

What did I tell you man.


Haldi ram 2.0

You both have been dealt the way you deserve actually

Heckle & Jeckle, keep cawing to yourselves now.

While the real questions put forth have never been answered. Let me make you a takeaway home list

1- Why I shouldn't give reference from Quran for namaz?
2- Why no details are needed for opium but every detail is required for namaz in Quran?

Most important ones:

1- What is the point of this discussion? What good will come out of it even if you prove that there is no namaz in Islam? Will this world become a better place? how has praying 5 times really created a problem for you or anyone?

2- What is the motive behind your discussion? Mockery for self satisfaction? if not, then let me know how many questions have you raised on other religions, who may be practicing things much worse than 5 times prayers or 2.5% Zakat?


I know you will never be able to answer the above points and pretend that these questions were never asked from you.

Go ahead and label me whatever you like. This just shows your mentality, not my reality. BTW, I really do not need your validation of myself, sincerely, it would be the last thing I'd search on earth after my death. So, keep honking ... I really do not give a flying shit about it.

All your intellect and critical thinking is now feeling sore in the bum and I know why you can't just sit quiet .....

 

[Wake up Pak]

Meaning by, I am not the one to whom you'll just provoke by asking "tell me about your namaz & tell me about your hadith & bla bla" .... I am the type who wants to know first " what's the deal here? why do you want this conversation? what is the takeaway?"

It's not about provoking you, my kid. rather bring the devil out of you where he controls your faulty ego to make you feel wonderful by following a man-made Islam.
I know you minions have nothing to back up your claim about your Namaz, which is why you lost the argument and are now attempting to cover up your shame by making silly and weak remarks.
I recommend that you drink a glass of cold water; otherwise, your blood pressure may skyrocket, and I don't want to be held responsible for it

 

[Wake up Pak]

What did I tell you man.


Haldi ram 2.0

Ya, you are right, this guy is Haldi Ram 2.0

 

[Citizen X]

You both have been dealt the way you deserve actually

Heckle & Jeckle, keep cawing to yourselves now.

While the real questions put forth have never been answered. Let me make you a takeaway home list

1- Why I shouldn't give reference from Quran for namaz?
2- Why no details are needed for opium but every detail is required for namaz in Quran?

Most important ones:

1- What is the point of this discussion? What good will come out of it even if you prove that there is no namaz in Islam? Will this world become a better place? how has praying 5 times really created a problem for you or anyone?

2- What is the motive behind your discussion? Mockery for self satisfaction? if not, then let me know how many questions have you raised on other religions, who may be practicing things much worse than 5 times prayers or 2.5% Zakat?


I know you will never be able to answer the above points and pretend that these questions were never asked from you.

Go ahead and label me whatever you like. This just shows your mentality, not my reality. BTW, I really do not need your validation of myself, sincerely, it would be the last thing I'd search on earth after my death. So, keep honking ... I really do not give a flying shit about it.

All your intellect and critical thinking is now feeling sore in the bum and I know why you can't just sit quiet .....

Well done, a textbook example of a strawman fallacy.