PTI to keep education ministry in KPK

Bangash

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
تحریک انصاف نے وعدہ کیا ہے کہ سب کے لئے ایک تعلیمی نظام ہوگا اگر اس وعدے کو پورا نہیں کیا گیا تو اگلے الیکشن میں تحریک انصاف کے لئے ووٹ لینا مشکل ہوگا
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Re: KPK Education Ministry Issue

Agree.With 7 seats ,they are getting 3 Manistries,Education shoulg go to PTI ,as this was their dream to change system.

Not only three ministries, they want to elect Lucman Qazi (son of Lat Qazi Hussain Ahmad) on NA 5 in Bye-elections that's why they may not resist on ministries. If JI creates some problem in this coalition, they will also see their last chance and next time, they will not even win 7 seats.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
PTI should not compromise.

bcz by having universities and colleges under them they get attention of young people on the name of jehaid and islam. they used young students to follow ji as it is allaha s way. they misguide people for own benifit as they r doing in punjab uni
Under no circumstances we can trust JI with education ministry. Look at the profile of their leaders. Do we want these people who brought so much violence to our unversities to lead our education futre? NO WAY! keep remember punjab uni is the oldest university of pak but it is worst uni in world research map. _JI throols fuuckk the punjab university

Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world.

Nations have recently been led to borrow billions for war; no nation has ever borrowed largely for education. Probably, no nation is rich enough to pay for both war and civilization. We must make our choice; we cannot have both.... JI is doing crime with education in punjab uni..

y ji vote shabaz sharif in punjab and nawaz sharif in center???? ji is cheater

At the end of the day, whatever the performance will be in KP, it will be referred as directly PTI’s performance in the masses and no one will blame the other coalition partners, in case if the coalition will fail to perform.

JI ko kisi keemat par is ministry par compromise nahi karna chahiye


PTI ko yeh ministry to kisi keemat par nahi deni chahiye


But the problem is that why PTI had agreed with them for this ministry? If Education was so dear to PTI, then why had they given to JI in first place and mind it JI are also so much stubborn and hard people in their decision that they may even break the coalition for that.
 
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Sohraab

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
But the problem is that why they PTI had agreed with them for this ministry? If Education was so dear to PTI, then why had they given to JI in first place and mind it JI are also so much stubborn and hard people in their decision that they may even break the coalition for that.

mere bhai aik baat ko samjho

PTI main tarha tarha ke seculars hain aur IK un ko control nahi kar sakta

Behtar hain yeh ministry PTI ke hawalay na hi ho
 

QaiserMirza

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
جماعت اسلامی پاکستان کے نائب امیر اور سینئر وزیر خیبر پختونخوا سراج الحق آج عمران خان سے ملاقات کے لیے لاہور آئے تھے۔

ان کے ڈرائیور نے بتایا کہ میں نے سراج الحق صاحب کے ساتھ ڈیوٹی جوائن کی تو کہا کہ پروٹوکول کے لیے ایک گاڑی آگے لے لیں، راستہ لینے میں آسانی ہوگی تو کہنے لگے کہ نہیں، اس کی ضرورت نہیں، عام لوگ اس بات کے زیادہ مستحق ہیں کہ انھیں راستہ ملے، ہم بھی انھی کی طرح راستہ لیں گے۔ ڈرائیور نے کہا کہ گاڑی خراب بھی ہو سکتی ہے اور دھکا بھی لگانا پڑ سکتا ہے تو سراج صاحب کا کہنا تھا کہ دھکا لگانے کے لیے میں ہوں نا۔

اسی طرح ڈرائیور کا کہنا تھا کہ گزشتہ وزیروں کی طرح سراج صاحب بھی رات دو بجے سوتے ہیں لیکن فرق یہ ہے کہ صبح نماز کے لیے خود جگاتے ہیں جبکہ پہلے والے سینئر وزیر اور دوسرے وزرا دن بارہ بجے اٹھتے تھے۔

اسی طرح ڈرائیور اس بات پر بھی حیران تھا کہ راستہ معلوم کرنے پر سراج صاحب ناراض نہیں ہوتے بلکہ خود کہتے ہیں کہ معلوم نہیں ہے تو کسی سے پوچھ لیں جبکہ پہلے والے وزرا سے ڈانٹ سننے کو ملتی تھی۔ ابھی چند دن ہوئے ہیں اور ڈرائیور نے سب کہاںی بیان کر دی ہے۔
لوگ کہتے ہیں کہ ڈرائیور سے کچھ چھپا
نہیں ہوتا
 
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lotaa

Minister (2k+ posts)
ab kisi ko kiya pata k ye jo kuchj aap ne likha hay,asli driver ne kaha hay,ye ye aap ki apni banai hoi kahani hay:lol:
جماعت اسلامی پاکستان کے نائب امیر اور سینئر وزیر خیبر پختونخوا سراج الحق آج عمران خان سے ملاقات کے لیے لاہور آئے تھے۔

ان کے ڈرائیور نے بتایا کہ میں نے سراج الحق صاحب کے ساتھ ڈیوٹی جوائن کی تو کہا کہ پروٹوکول کے لیے ایک گاڑی آگے لے لیں، راستہ لینے میں آسانی ہوگی تو کہنے لگے کہ نہیں، اس کی ضرورت نہیں، عام لوگ اس بات کے زیادہ مستحق ہیں کہ انھیں راستہ ملے، ہم بھی انھی کی طرح راستہ لیں گے۔ ڈرائیور نے کہا کہ گاڑی خراب بھی ہو سکتی ہے اور دھکا بھی لگانا پڑ سکتا ہے تو سراج صاحب کا کہنا تھا کہ دھکا لگانے کے لیے میں ہوں نا۔

اسی طرح ڈرائیور کا کہنا تھا کہ گزشتہ وزیروں کی طرح سراج صاحب بھی رات دو بجے سوتے ہیں لیکن فرق یہ ہے کہ صبح نماز کے لیے خود جگاتے ہیں جبکہ پہلے والے سینئر وزیر اور دوسرے وزرا دن بارہ بجے اٹھتے تھے۔

اسی طرح ڈرائیور اس بات پر بھی حیران تھا کہ راستہ معلوم کرنے پر سراج صاحب ناراض نہیں ہوتے بلکہ خود کہتے ہیں کہ معلوم نہیں ہے تو کسی سے پوچھ لیں جبکہ پہلے والے وزرا سے ڈانٹ سننے کو ملتی تھی۔ ابھی چند دن ہوئے ہیں اور ڈرائیور نے سب کہاںی بیان کر دی ہے۔
لوگ کہتے ہیں کہ ڈرائیور سے کچھ چھپا
نہیں ہوتا
 

Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ab kisi ko kiya pata k ye jo kuchj aap ne likha hay,asli driver ne kaha hay,ye ye aap ki apni banai hoi kahani hay:lol:

chele kush ho len thori der.................wese ye baat app ki acchi nahi lagi agar waqie esa howa hai............ya bardasht nahi hoi?
 

values

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: KPK Education Ministry Issue

Not only three ministries, they want to elect Lucman Qazi (son of Lat Qazi Hussain Ahmad) on NA 5 in Bye-elections that's why they may not resist on ministries. If JI creates some problem in this coalition, they will also see their last chance and next time, they will not even win 7 seats.
They will not resist on NA5 nad Education Manistry any more.Now they have a better chance is history of JI,to deliver.
 

khan afghan1

Minister (2k+ posts)
IMRAN KHAN is a man of principles.JI is also a party to be trusted.
Both should work hard and with honesty to complete the tenure
without any problem and focus on the problems the people of this
area are facing.there will a lot conspiracies to destabilize the govt
and this whole area.both the parties should focus on that.if they work
hard hopefully the enemy will be defeated INSHALLAH.
 

LivePakistan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Why PTI is insisting to keep education ministry in PTI? It is due to US ambassador pressure not give this ministry to JI. PTI is not a different party than others as it also please US. US don't want the syllabus in KPK rolled back as it was changed in the time of anti-Islam and secular party ANP. PTI is also becoming a big S*H*I*T in this system toeing US policies.
 

LivePakistan

Minister (2k+ posts)
پاکستان کے شمال مغربی علاقے میں بسنے والے جس ذہنیت کے حامل میں اور ان کا ماضی جس طرح گزرا ہے وہ اہل مغرب کو نہیں بھاتا
اس لیے ضروری ہے کہ ان کی دینی اور بنیاد پرست ذہنیت کو تبدیل کیا جائے
ان کو حق اور دین کی تعلیم سے دور کیا جائے
اسی مقصد کے لیے پاکستان بھر میں تعلیمی نصاب تبدیل کیا گیا تھا
تحریک انصاف نے اپنی جیت کے بعد جماعت اسلامی سے معاہدہ کے مطابق تعلیم کی وزارت دینے کا فیصلہ کیا تھا
اس فیصلے کے فورا بعد غیر ملکی نمایندوں نے خان صاحب سے ملاقات شروع کر دیں
اس کے بعد تحریک نے اپنے فیصلوں پر نظر ثانی کی
ان طاغوت طاقتوں کو یہ برداشت نہیں کہ ہم اپنی آنے والی نسلوں کو اپنے دین اور مذھب کے مطابق تعلیم سے آراستہ کریں
ہماری نجات اسی میں ہے
باقی تمام طرز تعلیم انسان نہیں بناتی
Very well said. PTI is backing out due to US ambassador pressure on PTI not let this ministry go to JI which is really Islamic by its fundamentals but PTI is not at all. It's a party of more kind of liberal Pakistanis. IK is not man of words and he has licked his words many times. He is loosing his respect very quickly. What's a problem if JI has this minstery. Every politicians is US slave in one or other form. IK will not be an exception as he was not in power before. All politicians are piece of S*H*I*T. There is no true leader in Pakistan.
 

Democratic

Senator (1k+ posts)
The mess that has been produced over the trivial issue of allocating a ministry is senseless but it does reveal the fact that at the center of the clash , there exists a secular/conservation divide not only between PTI and JI but inside the ranks of PTI as well. This seat has become a matter of the conservation of the liberalism of PTI for the liberals of PTI. For God sake , JI people are not animals and they are not barbarians, Just give them the seat and move on. The education minister has to function under the CM so what threat is there in handing over this ministry to JI other than a whimsical symbolism of liberalism?
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why PTI is insisting to keep education ministry in PTI? It is due to US ambassador pressure not give this ministry to JI. PTI is not a different party than others as it also please US. US don't want the syllabus in KPK rolled back as it was changed in the time of anti-Islam and secular party ANP. PTI is also becoming a big S*H*I*T in this system toeing US policies.


Is there any source to your claims or are u just blowing wind. U cannot compare ANP to Pti please do not do that.
 

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The mess that has been produced over the trivial issue of allocating a ministry is senseless but it does reveal the fact that at the center of the clash , there exists a secular/conservation divide not only between PTI and JI but inside the ranks of PTI as well. This seat has become a matter of the conservation of the liberalism of PTI for the liberals of PTI. For God sake , JI people are not animals and they are not barbarians, Just give them the seat and move on. The education minister has to function under the CM so what threat is there in handing over this ministry to JI other than a whimsical symbolism of liberalism?

Education may be trivial issue for PML-N but PTI is the only party who has not only done home work but it was on their top " Things TO DO" list.
Neither PML-N nor JI contested elections based on the future vision. How they hell, they will understand the importance of education ?
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I would like to mention that there are a lot of liberals in PTI, IK needs to make sure the right people in his party are given the rights to affairs in the education sector.

Segregate men and women as a lot of people in KPK will have a problem with the mixing of boys Nd girls in schools. By doing this many peope migbt be prepared to send there children to schools. There is a lot if religious people in KPK. Teach children maths, English, science etc. Also an hour a day in the school Islamic studies, but that should only be related in teaching them Quran, for example 5 year old kid starts learning Quran from beginning its meaning, and teach them Arabic as well. So by the time they reach 12 they will be able to speak Arabic and be able to understand the Quran. Do not get involved in figh related issues that is not the job of the school otherwise it can cause a lot of in unnecessary problems.
 

Democratic

Senator (1k+ posts)
Education may be trivial issue for PML-N but PTI is the only party who has not only done home work but it was on their top " Things TO DO" list.
Neither PML-N nor JI contested elections based on the future vision. How they hell, they will understand the importance of education ?

Who said that education is a trivial issue? But allocating the slot to education minister is indeed a trivial issue. Can be done with in minutes if homework had been done. Weeks since government in KPK has started functioning and still there is no cabinet due to all this tug of war. I don't believe that PTI takes education so seriously as had that been the case they would have appointed the education minister the very next after CM took oath.
 
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Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Who said that education is a trivial issue? But allocating the slot to education minister is indeed a trivial issue. Can be done with in minutes if homework had been done. Weeks since government in KPK has started functioning and still there is no cabinet due to all this tug of war. I don't believe that PTI takes education so seriously as had that been the case they would have appointed the education minister the very next after CM took oath.

This is happening because of external forces who forced the election result to PTI. If PTI is going to work hard then why someone else takes the credit of their planning and achievements?

By the way, do we have provincial cabinet ministers in Punjab, Sindh or Baluchistan. We had elections on same day. Why you guys are so worried about KPP. With the help of Election commission and outsiders, PML-N got the power in Punjab. Why don't they announce their cabinet of retarded who got no vision or program ?

Make sure Punjab retarded CM gets a finance Minister this time.
 

Democratic

Senator (1k+ posts)
This is happening because of external forces who forced the election result to PTI. If PTI is going to work hard then why someone else takes the credit of their planning and achievements?

By the way, do we have provincial cabinet ministers in Punjab, Sindh or Baluchistan. We had elections on same day. Why you guys are so worried about KPP. With the help of Election commission and outsiders, PML-N got the power in Punjab. Why don't they announce their cabinet of retarded who got no vision or program ?

Make sure Punjab retarded CM gets a finance Minister this time.

Can't you analyze something without referring to another party? All such arguments boil down to "two wrongs make a right". PTI made a commitment with JI about this ministry and now due to the pressure of liberals with in their ranks , they are finding it difficult to keep their word. What i said was the JI guys are not animals or barbarians. Give them the seat and go on. A ministry is not solely run by the minister incumbent. A long list of bureaucrats and low cadre government officials run the ministry. The minister just has to look over the tasks of the officials. It is not the education minister who makes education policy but the government makes it so whats the big deal other than liberal symbolism?

Rest of what you said is irrelevant to the topic at hand. Feel free to start a new thread about that where i would respond to your allegations etc.
 

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