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Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
rahat said:
MQM was created by the military dictators to divide and uphold the corrupt system and they are still success in their aim due to the negative attitude of the foolish peoples of Karachi who support MQM.

In order to keep the record right, I want to draw your attention toward the following facts:

- the privileged class launched a movement against the popular leadership of Bhutto in 1977. It was completely sponsored by the foreign elements whose interests were to eliminate the leadership in the world who challenged their imperial role and organize a popular movement against their interests. In that occasion they used their partners (privileged classes) of Pakistan who mostly represent the urban areas of the Pakistan. The leadership of these urban centers particularly of Karachi and Hyderabad was dominated by the religious parties (jamiat Islami and JUP).

- it is evident that these religious groups won about all the seats of these urban centers and then they start agitation against Bhutto for so-called rigging on the instructions of their bosses. The movement was confined to these two cities only for about 1 1/2 month from where these privileged religious class won all the cities.

- when they were not getting support from any of the other part of the country representing the lower class, then the foreign bosses planned to start agitation in Lahore and they sent peoples of these parties to Lahore to start agitation their. They financed and supplied big money to do it. The flow of dollars in that movement was so evident that the dollars value was went down against Pakistanis rupee.
_ when they start agitation in Lahore at the end of April by theses conspirators and foreign funded religious parties, the establishment came to play their due role in accordance to the plan to dislodge the Bhutto by the army.

- after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organize to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centers. They worked on different peoples to create that group and many seasonal and patriotic Urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the Sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic Urdu speaking party. The first training of this group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning Pakistan flag.

- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organization. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to Pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country.

_ after its launching they are playing the role of the agent of the establishment and privileged classes with the sole object to divide and crush any popular peoples movement. It is evident from the role they played against the "No confidence" motion against Benazir Bhutto being the partner in the government. after the defeat in assembly they created a big and brutal operation in Karachi and Hyderabad with the help of the establishment to destabilize Benazir government and then they played each elected government to whom they always were the partners.

- as far as the so-called operation against MQM by the establishment is concerned it is on the record that there were a fight in between the MQM on the distribution of the "Bhatta" and Altaf want to get rid of some of them. He with the collaboration with establishment launched operation against him opponent and left Pakistan just before the operation direct from the Abbasi Hospital as per his planning of the operation. From that day he never visited back on the instruction of the establishment and the foreign powers who want him to be alive to achieve their objectives.

- most of the poor peoples are now the hostages of the brutal force of MQM and they live like slaves there. From the creation till now the real face of MQM is exposed to everyone and no sincere element in the county support them.
Q) Who was sitting in Majlis Shura of Zia?
Ans. Jamaat-e-Islami.
Q) Who chanted slogan in Zia's Referendum, MARDEMOMIN MARDE HUQ....ZIA UL HUQ?
Ans. Jamaat-e-Islami, Nawaz and company.
Q) Who took illegitimate money from ISI, to join IJI?
Ans. Jamaat-e-Islami, Nawaz Sharif, etc.
Q) Who took part in local bodies election, in 2001 despite constitution was suspended?
Ans. Jamaat-e-Islami, PML-N, etc.
Q) Who boycotted the local bodies election in 2001, because constitution was suspended?
Ans. MQM.
Q) Who campaigned for Mushrraf in referendum?
Ans. Imran Khan.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Q)Who Is Bhagora Leader
Ans: Altaaaaaaaaaaaaaf Hussain aka Taffu Kalla

Q) Who holds Foreign Nationality
Ans: Altaaaaaaaaaaaaaf Hussain aka Taffu Kalla
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
Jury. you didn't replied even a single fact mentioned in my post:

MQM was created by the military dictators to divide and uphold the corrupt system and they are still success in their aim due to the negative attitude of the foolish peoples of Karachi who support MQM.

In order to keep the record right, I want to draw your attention toward the following facts:

- the privileged class launched a movement against the popular leadership of Bhutto in 1977. It was completely sponsored by the foreign elements whose interests were to eliminate the leadership in the world who challenged their imperial role and organize a popular movement against their interests. In that occasion they used their partners (privileged classes) of Pakistan who mostly represent the urban areas of the Pakistan. The leadership of these urban centers particularly of Karachi and Hyderabad was dominated by the religious parties (jamiat Islami and JUP).

- it is evident that these religious groups won about all the seats of these urban centers and then they start agitation against Bhutto for so-called rigging on the instructions of their bosses. The movement was confined to these two cities only for about 1 1/2 month from where these privileged religious class won all the cities.

- when they were not getting support from any of the other part of the country representing the lower class, then the foreign bosses planned to start agitation in Lahore and they sent peoples of these parties to Lahore to start agitation their. They financed and supplied big money to do it. The flow of dollars in that movement was so evident that the dollars value was went down against Pakistanis rupee.
_ when they start agitation in Lahore at the end of April by theses conspirators and foreign funded religious parties, the establishment came to play their due role in accordance to the plan to dislodge the Bhutto by the army.

- after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organize to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centers. They worked on different peoples to create that group and many seasonal and patriotic Urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the Sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic Urdu speaking party. The first training of this group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning Pakistan flag.

- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organization. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to Pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country.

_ after its launching they are playing the role of the agent of the establishment and privileged classes with the sole object to divide and crush any popular peoples movement. It is evident from the role they played against the "No confidence" motion against Benazir Bhutto being the partner in the government. after the defeat in assembly they created a big and brutal operation in Karachi and Hyderabad with the help of the establishment to destabilize Benazir government and then they played each elected government to whom they always were the partners.

- as far as the so-called operation against MQM by the establishment is concerned it is on the record that there were a fight in between the MQM on the distribution of the "Bhatta" and Altaf want to get rid of some of them. He with the collaboration with establishment launched operation against him opponent and left Pakistan just before the operation direct from the Abbasi Hospital as per his planning of the operation. From that day he never visited back on the instruction of the establishment and the foreign powers who want him to be alive to achieve their objectives.

- most of the poor peoples are now the hostages of the brutal force of MQM and they live like slaves there. From the creation till now the real face of MQM is exposed to everyone and no sincere element in the county support them.

As far as the points raised by you are concerns, It must be kept in mind that there is no difference in "jamiat-e-islami or MQM". I have already elaborated it above, how the establishment uses both of its allies in different occasions.
MQM was equally got direction from establishment to support "No confidence movement" against Benazier Bhutto and they obeyed the orders of ther Masters.

Similarly MQM was a Part of opposition when they got money from ISI equally responsible for it.responsible for getting money.

the way the boycotted election at different occasions is only and only on the directions of their masters, in order t facilitate their other allies "Jamiat-e-Islami" to get in power in local or national levels.

Mr. Jury, you can't fool any more to the nation and the criminal, terrorist face of Altaf / MQM is clear in the mirror
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
rahat said:
Jury. you didn't replied even a single fact mentioned in my post:

MQM was created by the military dictators to divide and uphold the corrupt system and they are still success in their aim due to the negative attitude of the foolish peoples of Karachi who support MQM.

In order to keep the record right, I want to draw your attention toward the following facts:

- the privileged class launched a movement against the popular leadership of Bhutto in 1977. It was completely sponsored by the foreign elements whose interests were to eliminate the leadership in the world who challenged their imperial role and organize a popular movement against their interests. In that occasion they used their partners (privileged classes) of Pakistan who mostly represent the urban areas of the Pakistan. The leadership of these urban centers particularly of Karachi and Hyderabad was dominated by the religious parties (jamiat Islami and JUP).

- it is evident that these religious groups won about all the seats of these urban centers and then they start agitation against Bhutto for so-called rigging on the instructions of their bosses. The movement was confined to these two cities only for about 1 1/2 month from where these privileged religious class won all the cities.

- when they were not getting support from any of the other part of the country representing the lower class, then the foreign bosses planned to start agitation in Lahore and they sent peoples of these parties to Lahore to start agitation their. They financed and supplied big money to do it. The flow of dollars in that movement was so evident that the dollars value was went down against Pakistanis rupee.
_ when they start agitation in Lahore at the end of April by theses conspirators and foreign funded religious parties, the establishment came to play their due role in accordance to the plan to dislodge the Bhutto by the army.

- after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organize to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centers. They worked on different peoples to create that group and many seasonal and patriotic Urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the Sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic Urdu speaking party. The first training of this group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning Pakistan flag.

- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organization. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to Pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country.

_ after its launching they are playing the role of the agent of the establishment and privileged classes with the sole object to divide and crush any popular peoples movement. It is evident from the role they played against the "No confidence" motion against Benazir Bhutto being the partner in the government. after the defeat in assembly they created a big and brutal operation in Karachi and Hyderabad with the help of the establishment to destabilize Benazir government and then they played each elected government to whom they always were the partners.

- as far as the so-called operation against MQM by the establishment is concerned it is on the record that there were a fight in between the MQM on the distribution of the "Bhatta" and Altaf want to get rid of some of them. He with the collaboration with establishment launched operation against him opponent and left Pakistan just before the operation direct from the Abbasi Hospital as per his planning of the operation. From that day he never visited back on the instruction of the establishment and the foreign powers who want him to be alive to achieve their objectives.

- most of the poor peoples are now the hostages of the brutal force of MQM and they live like slaves there. From the creation till now the real face of MQM is exposed to everyone and no sincere element in the county support them.

As far as the points raised by you are concerns, It must be kept in mind that there is no difference in "jamiat-e-islami or MQM". I have already elaborated it above, how the establishment uses both of its allies in different occasions.
MQM was equally got direction from establishment to support "No confidence movement" against Benazier Bhutto and they obeyed the orders of ther Masters.

Similarly MQM was a Part of opposition when they got money from ISI equally responsible for it.responsible for getting money.

the way the boycotted election at different occasions is only and only on the directions of their masters, in order t facilitate their other allies "Jamiat-e-Islami" to get in power in local or national levels.

Mr. Jury, you can't fool any more to the nation and the criminal, ********* face of Altaf / MQM is clear in the mirror

First of All as you mentioned the year 1977 when neither MQM nor APMSO exist and Altaf Hussain was just a College student so bringing Altaf Hussain in this is totally wrong and another thing in 1977 JI was their in Karachi and they were protesting against Bhutto so it was JI and Army were conspiring against Bhutto in other words Establishment was behind all this who were conspiring against Bhutto's Govt. in 1977 and MQM dont even exist....
People were fedup with their slogan but they still voted Nawaz and Jamat-e-Islami in the election who were Islamist and also Zia's supporters and Zia's referendum was also won due to them so your argument about people being fedup is totally flawed...and JI was also enjoying special privileges from Zia during all that time as well and as you said they decided to launch ethnic groups in Urban centers then is their only one urban center in Pakistan???What about other parts of Pakistan and why would they try to get help from nationalists as nationalists were the biggest critics of Zia's Afghan Fasad plans???and why would they use JM Syed who himself wanted to break Sindh from Pakistan and was running his struggle influenced by Sheikh Mujib and why his party despite of Zia's support as you mentioned couldnt get popularity in Sindh???and BTW that flag buring controversy was happened in Hyderabad not Karachi in 1986...
MQM was created in 1984 and they already got huge popularity due to boldly addressing many sensitive issues in Public and also due to ethnic tensions erupted after Bushra Zaidi case in 1986 so they were already popular back then and another thing is that they were talking about Muhajirs while PPP vote bank was based on Sindhi and Baluch in Karachi so their is no way that PPP's vote bank could be heart due to MQM....
The reason for MQM going against PPP Govt. in 1990s was that PPP was not working on 18 point agenda which struck between both both parties before becoming collision partners and the reason to get out of Govt. was massacre of Pakka Qila....and after that Altaf Hussain was contacted by conspirators like Hamid Gull and co. to join IJI and before that MQM didnt have any connections with agencies....
As far as your claim over breakage of MQM Haqiqi then I dont know the inside but it was MQM Haqiqi who were helped by agencies against MQM so your logic flawed once again that MQM was part of establishment's policy because establishment used MQM Haqiqi to get rid of MQM Altaf....As you said about Altaf launching operation then how come so many MQM members and supporters got killed in this operation???why did Army crackdown their own headquarter 90 when operation was done in support of Altaf???How come they participated in 1993 PA election when they cant even visit their own offices???

Now answer these question before talking about wild conspiracy theories
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
rahat said:
Jury. you didn't replied even a single fact mentioned in my post:
MQM was created by the military dictators to divide and uphold the corrupt system and they are still success in their aim due to the negative attitude of the foolish peoples of Karachi who support MQM.

In order to keep the record right, I want to draw your attention toward the following facts:

- the privileged class launched a movement against the popular leadership of Bhutto in 1977. It was completely sponsored by the foreign elements whose interests were to eliminate the leadership in the world who challenged their imperial role and organize a popular movement against their interests. In that occasion they used their partners (privileged classes) of Pakistan who mostly represent the urban areas of the Pakistan. The leadership of these urban centers particularly of Karachi and Hyderabad was dominated by the religious parties (jamiat Islami and JUP).

- it is evident that these religious groups won about all the seats of these urban centers and then they start agitation against Bhutto for so-called rigging on the instructions of their bosses. The movement was confined to these two cities only for about 1 1/2 month from where these privileged religious class won all the cities.

- when they were not getting support from any of the other part of the country representing the lower class, then the foreign bosses planned to start agitation in Lahore and they sent peoples of these parties to Lahore to start agitation their. They financed and supplied big money to do it. The flow of dollars in that movement was so evident that the dollars value was went down against Pakistanis rupee.
_ when they start agitation in Lahore at the end of April by theses conspirators and foreign funded religious parties, the establishment came to play their due role in accordance to the plan to dislodge the Bhutto by the army.

- after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organize to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centers. They worked on different peoples to create that group and many seasonal and patriotic Urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the Sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic Urdu speaking party. The first training of this group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning Pakistan flag.

- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organization. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to Pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country.

_ after its launching they are playing the role of the agent of the establishment and privileged classes with the sole object to divide and crush any popular peoples movement. It is evident from the role they played against the "No confidence" motion against Benazir Bhutto being the partner in the government. after the defeat in assembly they created a big and brutal operation in Karachi and Hyderabad with the help of the establishment to destabilize Benazir government and then they played each elected government to whom they always were the partners.

- as far as the so-called operation against MQM by the establishment is concerned it is on the record that there were a fight in between the MQM on the distribution of the "Bhatta" and Altaf want to get rid of some of them. He with the collaboration with establishment launched operation against him opponent and left Pakistan just before the operation direct from the Abbasi Hospital as per his planning of the operation. From that day he never visited back on the instruction of the establishment and the foreign powers who want him to be alive to achieve their objectives.

- most of the poor peoples are now the hostages of the brutal force of MQM and they live like slaves there. From the creation till now the real face of MQM is exposed to everyone and no sincere element in the county support them.

As far as the points raised by you are concerns, It must be kept in mind that there is no difference in "jamiat-e-islami or MQM". I have already elaborated it above, how the establishment uses both of its allies in different occasions.
MQM was equally got direction from establishment to support "No confidence movement" against Benazier Bhutto and they obeyed the orders of ther Masters.


(1) Similarly MQM was a Part of opposition when they got money from ISI equally responsible for it.responsible for getting money.

(2) the way the boycotted election at different occasions is only and only on the directions of their masters, in order t facilitate their other allies "Jamiat-e-Islami" to get in power in local or national levels.

Mr. Jury, you can't fool any more to the nation and the criminal, ********* face of Altaf / MQM is clear in the mirror[/size]
1) Rahat, whoever have taught you history, either, he didn't know, or he gave you knowledge from GUTTER PRESS.
When MQM left, Benazir 1st Govt, MQM joined COP (combine Opposition Party), not IJI. And, they showed there strength on 26 Junary, 1990, by doing biggest Public Gathering, at Mazar-e-Quaid, which was arranged by MQM.
Regarding money from ISI. Even the mentor of Imran Khan, Hamid Gul declined that.
2) MQM first boycotted the election in 1993, because, agencies wanted Haqiqi to win 4 to 5 seats from MQM voters area. To expose them, MQM boycotted National Assembly, and turn over was extremely low. Although , army was on the streets, but even then, MQM proved his popularity.
In 2001, MQM boycotted, because, constitution was suspended, but, all the champions of democracy, took part in that election. When CJ and Judges declared, Musharraf act was an islamic on 12th October, 1999, then MQM took part in the election.
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
Jury, you are so blind in supporting terrorist Altaf / MQM that you can't even remember the recent events. Please read by opening your eyes and mind my previous post:

"after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organize to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centers. They worked on different peoples to create that group and many seasonal and patriotic Urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the Sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic Urdu speaking party. The first training of this group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning Pakistan flag.

- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organization. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to Pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country."

you may be a child at that time, but i was practically involved in politics and know very well all the actors involved in the process to establish an alternatives of "Jamiat-e-Islami" to serve establishment in the same domain of Urdu speaking peoples of Karachi / Hyderabad. I know very respectable and famous Urdu speaking leaders to whom I was involved in the politics and those who rejected the offer of "establishment" and then they finally picked Altaf for this purpose.

2- MQM was in the governess in the 1988-90 with the Benazier Bhutto and they betrayed her at the time of "No Confidence movement" to join opposition on the instruction of the establishment. this fact was also acknowledged by the then army chief, Mirza Aslam Baig.

NOW no one can fool the nation any more and Altaf / MQM will ultimately will get rejected and all these terrorists, criminals, corrupt and Bhatta Khoar of MQM will be awarded due punishment.
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Mustafa Kamal-Dekhta Chala Gya ?????? ??? ???

Jury, you are so blind in supporting ********* Altaf / MQM that you can't even remember the recent events. Please read by opening your eyes and mind my previous post:

"after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organize to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centers. They worked on different peoples to create that group and many seasonal and patriotic Urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the Sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic Urdu speaking party. The first training of this group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning Pakistan flag.

- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organization. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to Pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country."


you may be a child at that time, but i was practically involved in politics and know very well all the actors involved in the process to establish an alternatives of "Jamiat-e-Islami" to serve establishment in the same domain of Urdu speaking peoples of Karachi / Hyderabad. I know very respectable and famous Urdu speaking leaders to whom I was involved in the politics and those who rejected the offer of "establishment" and then they finally picked Altaf for this purpose.

2- MQM was in the governess in the 1988-90 with the Benazier Bhutto and they betrayed her at the time of "No Confidence movement" to join opposition on the instruction of the establishment. this fact was also acknowledged by the then army chief, Mirza Aslam Baig.

NOW no one can fool the nation any more and Altaf / MQM will ultimately will get rejected and all these terrorists, criminals, corrupt and Bhatta Khoar of MQM will be awarded due punishment.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Mustafa Kamal-Dekhta Chala Gya ?????? ??? ???

rahat said:
Jury, you are so blind in supporting ********* Altaf / MQM that you can't even remember the recent events. Please read by opening your eyes and mind my previous post:

"after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organize to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centers. They worked on different peoples to create that group and many seasonal and patriotic Urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the Sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic Urdu speaking party. The first training of this group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning Pakistan flag.

- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organization. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to Pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country."



you may be a child at that time, but i was practically involved in politics and know very well all the actors involved in the process to establish an alternatives of "Jamiat-e-Islami" to serve establishment in the same domain of Urdu speaking peoples of Karachi / Hyderabad. I know very respectable and famous Urdu speaking leaders to whom I was involved in the politics and those who rejected the offer of "establishment" and then they finally picked Altaf for this purpose.

2- MQM was in the governess in the 1988-90 with the Benazier Bhutto and they betrayed her at the time of "No Confidence movement" to join opposition on the instruction of the establishment. this fact was also acknowledged by the then army chief, Mirza Aslam Baig.

NOW no one can fool the nation any more and Altaf / MQM will ultimately will get rejected and all these terrorists, criminals, corrupt and Bhatta Khoar of MQM will be awarded due punishment.
1) Don't you remember Aslam Baig Sent a bag, which Altaf didn't accept. But, Nawaz, Qazi Hussain, etc accepted that illegitimate money.

2) When MQM left the govt of Benazir after 11 months. MQM did that openly in the Parliment. MQM Parliamentary leader said in the parliment, by saying,
??? ??? ?? ???? ???? ?? ?????? ???
????? ??? ????? ?? ?????? ???

There was 51 points accord between MQM and PPP. But, not a single was implemented practically.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
rahat said:
Jury, you are so blind in supporting ********* Altaf / MQM that you can't even remember the recent events. Please read by opening your eyes and mind my previous post:

"after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organize to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centers. They worked on different peoples to create that group and many seasonal and patriotic Urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the Sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic Urdu speaking party. The first training of this group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning Pakistan flag.

- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organization. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to Pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country."



you may be a child at that time, but i was practically involved in politics and know very well all the actors involved in the process to establish an alternatives of "Jamiat-e-Islami" to serve establishment in the same domain of Urdu speaking peoples of Karachi / Hyderabad. I know very respectable and famous Urdu speaking leaders to whom I was involved in the politics and those who rejected the offer of "establishment" and then they finally picked Altaf for this purpose.

2- MQM was in the governess in the 1988-90 with the Benazier Bhutto and they betrayed her at the time of "No Confidence movement" to join opposition on the instruction of the establishment. this fact was also acknowledged by the then army chief, Mirza Aslam Baig.

NOW no one can fool the nation any more and Altaf / MQM will ultimately will get rejected and all these terrorists, criminals, corrupt and Bhatta Khoar of MQM will be awarded due punishment.
1) Don't you remember Aslam Baig Sent a bag, which Altaf didn't accept. But, Nawaz, Qazi Hussain, etc accepted that illegitimate money.

2) When MQM left the govt of Benazir after 11 months. MQM did that openly in the Parliment. MQM Parliamentary leader said in the parliment, by saying,
??? ??? ?? ???? ???? ?? ?????? ???
????? ??? ????? ?? ?????? ???

There was 51 points accord between MQM and PPP. But, not a single was implemented practically.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
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PTI talking to terrorists and traitors...
?? ??? ????

I thought it would take a few years... But it took a few weeks.... chchchchc

If the Palestinian president can meet Israeli PM, then why not PTI and MQM? Despite of the fact that Israeli Army has killed thousands of Palestinian civilians. I guess MQM is far behind than Israeli Army in the number of killing Innocent people.

Aap Kay Pait May Q Marur Tth Raha Hain? [wall] [wall]
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
MQM is based on terrorism, corruption, bhatta khori. The only way to clean Karachi from these evils is the presence of firm and committed leadership, who can deliver. But the zardari Government is not capable to do it as they are also involved in corruption. Each of them protect each other and at the same time blackmail to get more lootings.
So we need a change to get rid of these terrorists from the society, who are actually exploiters and killer of the innocence poor peoples.
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Mustafa Kamal-Dekhta Chala Gya ?????? ??? ???

MQM is based on terrorism, corruption, bhatta khori. The only way to clean Karachi from these evils is the presence of firm and committed leadership, who can deliver. But the zardari Government is not capable to do it as they are also involved in corruption. Each of them protect each other and at the same time blackmail to get more lootings.
So we need a change to get rid of these terrorists from the society, who are actually exploiters and killer of the innocence poor peoples.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Mustafa Kamal-Dekhta Chala Gya ?????? ??? ???

rahat said:
MQM is based on terrorism, corruption, bhatta khori. The only way to clean Karachi from these evils is the presence of firm and committed leadership, who can deliver. But the zardari Government is not capable to do it as they are also involved in corruption. Each of them protect each other and at the same time blackmail to get more lootings.
So we need a change to get rid of these terrorists from the society, who are actually exploiters and killer of the innocence poor peoples.
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Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
rahat said:
MQM is based on terrorism, corruption, bhatta khori. The only way to clean Karachi from these evils is the presence of firm and committed leadership, who can deliver. But the zardari Government is not capable to do it as they are also involved in corruption. Each of them protect each other and at the same time blackmail to get more lootings.
So we need a change to get rid of these terrorists from the society, who are actually exploiters and killer of the innocence poor peoples.
Rahat!

Q) Have cases against MQM finished?
Ans. No!
Despite people who were arrested after Benazir's Death made free.
Despite relief has given in Baluchistan.
Despite Shahbaz Sharif gave relief in Punjab in cases.
But, no hue and cry over that.
Because, MQM was not in that case.

Q) Did MQM support NRO?
Ans. No.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Allama Iqbal & Altaf Have The Same Thoughts ????? ??? ?????

In the presence of:
1) Dr. Javed Iqbal (son Of Allama Iqbal)
2) Dr. Israr Ahmed.
3) Dr. Mubarak Ali

...........................[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9--3OjYC_WA[/video]
 

mazharjp

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Allama Iqbal & Altaf Have The Same Thoughts ????? ??? ?

Another Lie of MQM Altaf Hussain and there agent on this forum

JAVED IQBAL SON OF ALLAMA IQBAL, HIT HARD ALTAF HUSSAIN on his Interview with Najam Sethi.He deeply Criticize Altaf Hussain's Ideology is like Hindu Zionist.

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Mujahid

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Allama Iqbal & Altaf Have The Same Thoughts ????? ??? ?

Then Altaf Hussain why not support to Zaid Hamid ?
 

khalid100

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Allama Iqbal & Altaf Have The Same Thoughts ????? ??? ?

Pakistan is a reality. So if you don't like kindly leave it immediately if you have not done as per your fugitive leader and find some place in your motherland india..

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BrokenWing

Guest
Re: Allama Iqbal & Altaf Have The Same Thoughts ????? ??? ?

ALLAMA IQBAL NA KHABI CHOORAN NHIAN BACHA.
SHAME TO THOSE WHO COMPARE THIS LEGEND WITH KILLER/IGNORANT AND RETARDED AH.
 
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