usmanjee786
MPA (400+ posts)
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pak4rule
Senator (1k+ posts)
Salam to all
My heart ached saying NO to this poll, but the truth is what Shahid Ali has said.
Dear Abbasi bhai, these feudals have armed men as their guards, they buy police station of their area, so the common man scared to do anything against their wishes. As I teased my driver that due to you guys these corrupt politions comes to power , you know what he said , he said in last election he and his family voted for PML(N) in provincial govt against the sardaar wish as he ordered his village people to vote for PPP, my driver said the next day Sardaar's armed men came to his house threat him to destroy his house and rape his family women if he will not vote for PPP for central govt. So he voted for PPP even he didnt like.
He said " kiya karoon , mujboor tha, thana un ka , police un ki, ghunday un ka". Coz he had to protect his women and family he voted for PPP.
So Shahid is right, jub tuk yeah ghunda gardi aur kameengi khutum na hoogi , there will be no change.
May Allah help Pakistan and keep it safe from filthy, corrupt animals in human disguise. ameen summa ameen.
My heart ached saying NO to this poll, but the truth is what Shahid Ali has said.
Dear Abbasi bhai, these feudals have armed men as their guards, they buy police station of their area, so the common man scared to do anything against their wishes. As I teased my driver that due to you guys these corrupt politions comes to power , you know what he said , he said in last election he and his family voted for PML(N) in provincial govt against the sardaar wish as he ordered his village people to vote for PPP, my driver said the next day Sardaar's armed men came to his house threat him to destroy his house and rape his family women if he will not vote for PPP for central govt. So he voted for PPP even he didnt like.
He said " kiya karoon , mujboor tha, thana un ka , police un ki, ghunday un ka". Coz he had to protect his women and family he voted for PPP.
So Shahid is right, jub tuk yeah ghunda gardi aur kameengi khutum na hoogi , there will be no change.
May Allah help Pakistan and keep it safe from filthy, corrupt animals in human disguise. ameen summa ameen.
nauman
Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: how many seats PTI will WIN in next election?
bhai lahore say majority seats na jetain to apnay ap ko lahori khana chaor do ga
fahid_asif
Senator (1k+ posts)
Time is changing. Nothing is impossible in this world. The thing we need is people like you who converse and talk about odds. We have to talk with people around us who have not access on internet and fact based stories. Then see the results. Our people are not Baghairat but lailug only. We have to work on them.
aasimnaveed
MPA (400+ posts)
they need alliance with pmln or pppp otherwise its impossible .. pti+ji+pmln+other religious parties will clean sweap in punjab (NA n PA) n in other provinces they can get few seats but i think in sindh its ppp n mqm who will make govt n in kpk its islamic parties + pmln + azad n in balochistan same criteria ... baki Allah behter janta hai
Re: how many seats PTI will WIN in next election?
I guess PTI will manage some seats may be, but counting all together not more than 10-15 seats including both provincial and national assemblies. These seats will also be I guess the candidates seats and not because of the party itself. But I guess it is still good to compete and give people some more options. People who say they will sweep it, I do not believe because I guess they do not even have enough candidates to contest from everywhere. If they give tickets to unknowns, who are not known in their constituency, then I do no think they can even get 10 seats in elections. When we consider it realistically, environment in Pakistan is different, there is hardly any idealogical vote, except a few religious groups, and if your candidate is someone who has never been in the villages and backward areas, then they wont even know you to vote you. Secondly, no matter what we say, the mentality of the nation is more like a slave mentality and with short term memory, they are not educated enough to be having some far-sight, thats why there are tricks to win elections in Pakistan. People need someone who has everything in control in the constituency and who can boss around in the area. If you try to teach them some sort of philosophy then wont understand it because they do not have the capacity for that. Now what do I suggest for PTI, I suggest them to find some really strong candidates even from other parties and try to break them from their mother parties in order to bag a few seats. Secondly, it has been a trend that from FATA, there are always independents who win the elections, may be IK can lure them into his party. Third and most important thing to do is to do some research and see which constituencies are with more urban polling stations, with more educated people and with more youth. After research, they can only target these constituencies and make a real big campaign in only these few constituencies. This along with a little bit help from agencies, I guess IK can bag some 20-30 seats and at least his party can kick start its career.
Talking about MQM, I guess they will get their traditional seats in any case, and a few more may be from northern areas and a couple of provincial seats in south-Punjab. The parties are still small, and their structure is still under construction, so they need to bre realistic and try to at least have their say in parliament, IK can learn something from MQM who are in the Parliament and can make them count for certain national issues.
As far JI is concerned, I am not sure if they can get more than what they traditionally get,they are a good and well organised party but the thing is that they are a bit too sticky with the same old concepts, they need to bring moderate people ahead who talk of moderate Islam, otherwise they will get their traditional vote from NWFP, Balochistan, Karachi and few parts of central Punjab as always. Their best chance is to coil up with PMLN and make their say in government.
My forecast is that in coming elections, it will be again a split mandate, but PPP and PMLQ performing better as compared to last elections because of their seat adjustment. Lets see what happens.
I guess PTI will manage some seats may be, but counting all together not more than 10-15 seats including both provincial and national assemblies. These seats will also be I guess the candidates seats and not because of the party itself. But I guess it is still good to compete and give people some more options. People who say they will sweep it, I do not believe because I guess they do not even have enough candidates to contest from everywhere. If they give tickets to unknowns, who are not known in their constituency, then I do no think they can even get 10 seats in elections. When we consider it realistically, environment in Pakistan is different, there is hardly any idealogical vote, except a few religious groups, and if your candidate is someone who has never been in the villages and backward areas, then they wont even know you to vote you. Secondly, no matter what we say, the mentality of the nation is more like a slave mentality and with short term memory, they are not educated enough to be having some far-sight, thats why there are tricks to win elections in Pakistan. People need someone who has everything in control in the constituency and who can boss around in the area. If you try to teach them some sort of philosophy then wont understand it because they do not have the capacity for that. Now what do I suggest for PTI, I suggest them to find some really strong candidates even from other parties and try to break them from their mother parties in order to bag a few seats. Secondly, it has been a trend that from FATA, there are always independents who win the elections, may be IK can lure them into his party. Third and most important thing to do is to do some research and see which constituencies are with more urban polling stations, with more educated people and with more youth. After research, they can only target these constituencies and make a real big campaign in only these few constituencies. This along with a little bit help from agencies, I guess IK can bag some 20-30 seats and at least his party can kick start its career.
Talking about MQM, I guess they will get their traditional seats in any case, and a few more may be from northern areas and a couple of provincial seats in south-Punjab. The parties are still small, and their structure is still under construction, so they need to bre realistic and try to at least have their say in parliament, IK can learn something from MQM who are in the Parliament and can make them count for certain national issues.
As far JI is concerned, I am not sure if they can get more than what they traditionally get,they are a good and well organised party but the thing is that they are a bit too sticky with the same old concepts, they need to bring moderate people ahead who talk of moderate Islam, otherwise they will get their traditional vote from NWFP, Balochistan, Karachi and few parts of central Punjab as always. Their best chance is to coil up with PMLN and make their say in government.
My forecast is that in coming elections, it will be again a split mandate, but PPP and PMLQ performing better as compared to last elections because of their seat adjustment. Lets see what happens.
w-a-n-t-e-d-
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: how many seats PTI will WIN in next election?
haha zabardast
mery ek dost nay mqm k 300 votes dalay dosray nay 2000 mqm walay duno ko zabardasti gali say lay gay thay sath
kiuon k unit main parhay likhay larko ki tadat kam thi ;)
puray f b area main bogus vote dala hai mqm nay bogus vote dala PPP nay liyari main or PPP mqm gulshan iqbal main larae
chalti rahi thi bogus voting pay fauj rangers nay yeh jo election karway hain puri history main aysay nahi hoay hongay kabhi...
haha zabardast
mery ek dost nay mqm k 300 votes dalay dosray nay 2000 mqm walay duno ko zabardasti gali say lay gay thay sath
kiuon k unit main parhay likhay larko ki tadat kam thi ;)
puray f b area main bogus vote dala hai mqm nay bogus vote dala PPP nay liyari main or PPP mqm gulshan iqbal main larae
chalti rahi thi bogus voting pay fauj rangers nay yeh jo election karway hain puri history main aysay nahi hoay hongay kabhi...
w-a-n-t-e-d-
Minister (2k+ posts)
PTI jui f jui s say serf etihad karna chaeyh agar waqae usooli siyasat karni hai tu..or jin isues pay PTI nekli hoee hai
un k leyh yehi partyz suitibale hain..
warna baqi sab mafaad parast hain...or Morsi hain
ALI ARYAN
Senator (1k+ posts)
In Pakistan every elections was engineered, Wohi jeety ga jo ga establishment ke sath ho ga. In the meantime establishment has two pawns and both are trying to show efforts to establishment. 1) Imran khan 2) Makhdoom Shah Mehmood Qureshi.
Ab wait and see ka sa mahool hei dekhtey hein Quraa e Faal kis ke naam nikalta hei.
meri nazar mei Shah Mehmood Qureshi best choice ho gee establishment ki
Ab wait and see ka sa mahool hei dekhtey hein Quraa e Faal kis ke naam nikalta hei.
meri nazar mei Shah Mehmood Qureshi best choice ho gee establishment ki
aasimnaveed
MPA (400+ posts)
this election will tell us that if our system can change or just TOPI DRAMA ... for me PTI win 2 to 10 seats it would be major change, they will go to public more openly,criticise govt. confidently, and it will be a start, change achanak nahin ati , if you compare with USA then you are living in PAGLO ki JANNAT me ..lol ...
Shahid Ali
Siasat.pk - Blogger
MQM/JI refuse to induct feudals n they didnt succeed in rural politics. PTI changed policy...
Dear Admin let us renew 2009 Poll or have another poll after SMQ, Mian Azhar etc etc
Thanks
Dear Admin let us renew 2009 Poll or have another poll after SMQ, Mian Azhar etc etc
Thanks
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