PNS Mehran: Ex-Navy commando held - Another Mir Jafer !! Why these MIR jaffers are amongst us only !

[zubair12345]

Re: Another Mir Jafer !! Why these MIR jaffers are amongst us only !!! a matter of Shame !

these peopple exist because of stupids like hameed gul, zaid hamid etc people

not your fault if u show the pakistani flag or your name like muslim it doesn't make sense that u love paksitan if we see after red flag was down that time name hameed gul arise every member of paksitani surkha kept quit before that the slogan was Asia surkh hai pakistan surkh hai the slogan buried the new blood sucker came to afghanistan from that dose people were got life again and all hate started against people who sacrifices there life for pakistan they are the most hatred person now why? if u see every person or country mir jafar and sadiq pointing fingering the most sincere and faithful pakistani why? to defame them and destabilized paksitan i request to all brother and sister who love paksitan and our armed forces plz don't come under influence of propegand against our arme forces.

 

[M Ali Khan]

Re: PNS Mehran: Ex-Navy commando held - Another Mir Jafer !! Why these MIR jaffers are amongst us only !!! a matter of Shame

Al-Qaeda had warned of Pakistan strike
By Syed Saleem Shahzad

This is the first article in a two-part report.

ISLAMABAD - Al-Qaeda carried out the brazen attack on PNS Mehran naval air station in Karachi on May 22 after talks failed between the navy and al-Qaeda over the release of naval officials arrested on suspicion of al-Qaeda links, an Asia Times Online investigation reveals.

Pakistani security forces battled for 15 hours to clear the naval base after it had been stormed by a handful of well-armed militants.

At least 10 people were killed and two United States-made P3-C

Orion surveillance and anti-submarine aircraft worth US$36 million each were destroyed before some of the attackers escaped through a cordon of thousands of armed forces.

An official statement placed the number of militants at six, with four killed and two escaping. Unofficial sources, though, claim there were 10 militants with six getting free. Asia Times Online contacts confirm that the attackers were from Ilyas Kashmiri's 313 Brigade, the operational arm of al-Qaeda.

Three attacks on navy buses in which at least nine people were killed last month were warning shots for navy officials to accept al-Qaeda's demands over the detained suspects.

The May 2 killing in Pakistan of Osama bin Laden spurred al-Qaeda groups into developing a consensus for the attack in Karachi, in part as revenge for the death of their leader and also to deal a blow to Pakistan's surveillance capacity against the Indian navy.

The deeper underlying motive, though, was a reaction to massive internal crackdowns on al-Qaeda affiliates within the navy.

Volcano of militancy
Several weeks ago, naval intelligence traced an al-Qaeda cell operating inside several navy bases in Karachi, the country's largest city and key port.

"Islamic sentiments are common in the armed forces," a senior navy official told Asia Times Online on the condition of anonymity as he is not authorized to speak to the media.

"We never felt threatened by that. All armed forces around the world, whether American, British or Indian, take some inspiration from religion to motivate their cadre against the enemy. Pakistan came into existence on the two-nation theory that Hindus and Muslims are two separate nations and therefore no one can separate Islam and Islamic sentiment from the armed forces of Pakistan," the official said.

"Nonetheless, we observed an uneasy grouping on different naval bases in Karachi. While nobody can obstruct armed forces personnel for rendering religious rituals or studying Islam, the grouping [we observed] was against the discipline of the armed forces. That was the beginning of an intelligence operation in the navy to check for unscrupulous activities."

The official explained the grouping was against the leadership of the armed forces and opposed to its nexus with the United States against Islamic militancy. When some messages were intercepted hinting at attacks on visiting American officials, intelligence had good reason to take action and after careful evaluation at least 10 people - mostly from the lower cadre - were arrested in a series of operations.

"That was the beginning of huge trouble," the official said.

Those arrested were held in a naval intelligence office behind the chief minister's residence in Karachi, but before proper interrogation could begin, the in-charge of the investigation received direct threats from militants who made it clear they knew where the men were being detained.

The detainees were promptly moved to a safer location, but the threats continued. Officials involved in the case believe the militants feared interrogation would lead to the arrest of more of their loyalists in the navy. The militants therefore made it clear that if those detained were not released, naval installations would be attacked.

It was clear the militants were receiving good inside information as they always knew where the suspects were being detained, indicating sizeable al-Qaeda infiltration within the navy's ranks. A senior-level naval conference was called at which an intelligence official insisted that the matter be handled with great care, otherwise the consequences could be disastrous. Everybody present agreed, and it was decided to open a line of communication with al-Qaeda.

Abdul Samad Mansoori, a former student union activist and now part of 313 brigade, who originally hailed from Karachi but now lives in the North Waziristan tribal area was approached and talks begun. Al-Qaeda demanded the immediate release of the officials without further interrogation. This was rejected.

The detainees were allowed to speak to their families and were well treated, but officials were desperate to interrogate them fully to get an idea of the strength of al-Qaeda's penetration. The militants were told that once interrogation was completed, the men would be discharged from the service and freed.

Al-Qaeda rejected these terms and expressed its displeasure with the attacks on the navy buses in April.

These incidents pointed to more than the one al-Qaeda cell intelligence had tracked in the navy. The fear now was that if the problem was not addressed, North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) supply lines could face a new threat. NATO convoys are routinely attacked once they begin the journey from Karachi to Afghanistan; now they could be at risk in Karachi port. Americans who often visit naval facilities in the city would also be in danger.

Therefore, another crackdown was conducted and more people were arrested. Those seized had different ethnic backgrounds. One naval commando came from South Waziristan's Mehsud tribe and was believed to have received direct instructions from Hakeemullah Mehsud, the chief of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (Pakistan Taliban). Others were from Punjab province and Karachi, the capital of Sindh province.

After Bin Laden was killed by American Navy Seals in Abbottabad, 60 kilometers north of Islamabad, militants decided the time was ripe for major action.

Within a week, insiders at PNS Mehran provided maps, pictures of different exit and entry routes taken in daylight and at night, the location of hangers and details of likely reaction from external security forces.

As a result, the militants were able to enter the heavily guarded facility where one group targeted the aircraft, a second group took on the first strike force and a third finally escaped with the others providing covering fire. Those who stayed behind were killed.

Next: Recruitment and training of militants

Syed Saleem Shahzad is Asia Times Online's Pakistan Bureau Chief and author of Inside al-Qaeda and the Taliban: Beyond Bin Laden and 9/11 published by Pluto Press, UK. He can be reached at [email protected]

(Copyright 2011 Asia Times Online (Holdings) Ltd. All rights reserved. Please contact us about sales, syndication and republishing.)

and for writing this, the journalist went missing and is feared to be in illegal ISI detention

http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/30/journalist-saleem-shahzad-goes-missing.html

 

[saliaz]

these peopple exist because of stupids like hameed gul, zaid hamid etc people

No matter what happens why people like you never stop bringing your pathetic political pitch???
Please !!! Most people here are only seeking to share there concerns and frustrations crated by the corrupt political leaders and their selfish decisions.

 

[saliaz]

Mir Jafars are available every time and every place in the world...We need to keep an eye on them..

Even in Rasool Pak time too , these were called Munafiqs and Abdullah Bin Ubbai.

During Pakistan process too, Molana Modudi was Mir Jaffar, Ghafa Khan was , and lots more...

We need to identify them and corner them...

If they succeed , it is our fault, not their....They are born with this killing instinct.

Even Mirza Kazab was of the same category...

Totally agree! But most people keep blaming foreign power when they have traitors inside their home.

Big question...Can we buy single Mir Jafar in USA or UK govt?

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

Re: Pakistan's Navy commando Kamran Ahmed along with his two supporters has been arrested

Aap ka matlab hay sub pakistani soldiers ko apni military bases per alqaida aur talibans say attacks karwanay chahiay aur apnay saathion ko marwana chahiay to phir woh muhabewatan aur islam pasand ho jaieen gay. O bhai kuch khuda ka khoof karo, qayamat walay din Allah ko kia munh dikhao gay, mazhab kay naam per Allah ke zameen per qatal o gharat na karo.

nahi bhai mera yeh matlab nahi hai app apni tarf say rayy qaem karrahay hain..


Fauj ko bhaghawat pay GHQ or hokomat khodh majbor karrahi hai..

jab baghawat hojaygi tu yahan UNO ko Utarna Asaan hojayga in k leyh k Pakistan nakam Riyasat hai yahan civil war horahi hai etc..


Navl base pay attack yaqeenan bara nuqsan hai aysa nahi hona chaeyh tha....


Jaed ulema-e-kiram tu es waqat kehtay hain k yeh rafzi shetani hukomat jitny jabar karay bardasht karo... kiuon k in say larae
main nuqsan ummat ka he hai...

JazakALlah khair

 

[gazoomartian]

Re: Pakistan's Navy commando Kamran Ahmed along with his two supporters has been arrested

There is no doubt otherwise what the hell 7000 CIA operatives doing in Pakistan? Have they target / spot any High value target so far? The answer is a big "NO"

USA took 3 years to cause civil war between Shia & Sunnis in IRAQ. The same they want to repeat here and would ask Pakistan to handover our Nukes to US because of civil war.

But thanks to our vibrant Media, who are raising this issue time and time so the US is cautious, but it doesn't mean they have rolled back their plane.

Now it is the time for our Public and Army to take strong action against such plane because our Civilians govt. is completely fail in protecting the country. They are there to loot and complete their 5 years by nay mean.

I just read in Dawn. Ambassador Haqqani claims he issued 7000 visas because GHQ approval. He may just really be innocent. Whatever the case may be, someone has big $ by selling the country.

 

[no-violence]

Re: Pakistan's Navy commando Kamran Ahmed along with his two supporters has been arrested

GHQ aur hakomat kis tarah baghawat per majbor kar rahay hain? Zara iss per bhe roshni daalien. Aur aap kay jayed ulema ke bari meharbani, aap bhr iss per amal karien aur apnay taliban bhaioon ko bhe amal karwaien.

nahi bhai mera yeh matlab nahi hai app apni tarf say rayy qaem karrahay hain..


Fauj ko bhaghawat pay GHQ or hokomat khodh majbor karrahi hai..

jab baghawat hojaygi tu yahan UNO ko Utarna Asaan hojayga in k leyh k Pakistan nakam Riyasat hai yahan civil war horahi hai etc..


Navl base pay attack yaqeenan bara nuqsan hai aysa nahi hona chaeyh tha....


Jaed ulema-e-kiram tu es waqat kehtay hain k yeh rafzi shetani hukomat jitny jabar karay bardasht karo... kiuon k in say larae
main nuqsan ummat ka he hai...

JazakALlah khair

 

[khan_11]

Re: Another Mir Jafer !! Why these MIR jaffers are amongst us only !!! a matter of Shame !

Good that they have realized that they are not sacred cows.
Let start with biggest of the criminal - General Musharraf
He staged Hijacking Drama, overthrow the Political Govt
Let bring him back, try him under Article 6.

I agree with u that he was criminal minded person but he has donesome good jobs for Pakistan and top of the list is overthrow dum andstupid Nawaz government which at that time run by gang of four peoples both brothers,ch nisar and late shrief.

 

[Geek]

Re: PNS Mehran: Ex-Navy commando held - Another Mir Jafer !! Why these MIR jaffers are amongst us only !!! a matter of Shame

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

Re: Pakistan's Navy commando Kamran Ahmed along with his two supporters has been arrested

GHQ aur hakomat kis tarah baghawat per majbor kar rahay hain? Zara iss per bhe roshni daalien. Aur aap kay jayed ulema ke bari meharbani, aap bhr iss per amal karien aur apnay taliban bhaioon ko bhe amal karwaien.

Mery Bhai kuffar ki boli bologay tu kia khak kuch sumhaj paogay.. fauj main kuch tabqay amrica k talway nahi chathna chahtay "benazir musharraf or amrica ki slected kiyani team" k khilaaf baghawat hosakti hai... pehlay koe yeh baat prove tu karday k pakistan main dehshat gardi talban kartay hain abb tak tu serf wizarat-e-kharja or ispr ya yeh shetani siasat dano ki bak bak he hai sachaee tu es main kahin nahi.... fayslay ka waqat hai bhai k apny amrica k mazeed talway chathny hain ya es salaybi jang say bahir nekalna hai ?? salaybi jang say bahir neklo app pehly os k bad jo shorish paeda karay mulk main os k khilaf karwaee karoo...

 

[samar]

Re: PNS Mehran: Ex-Navy commando held - Another Mir Jafer !! Why these MIR jaffers are amongst us only !!! a matter of Shame

Ghafil logo america america krtey raho gey ore aag jo tumhain andr se lagee hoee he tumhain tabah kr de geee. abb b vakt he apney ander se dushman ko pehchano .............ye possible hi nhi k aik professional army k saath itna bura ho raha ho............yakeenan dushman hmaree army hmaree navy me penetrate kr chukey hain..............daro us din se jb koi F-16 chaleney vala dushman ka banda nikla..................

read this it would open your eyes:

http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/30/journalist-saleem-shahzad-goes-missing.html

 

[no-violence]

Re: Pakistan's Navy commando Kamran Ahmed along with his two supporters has been arrested

Yaani taliban nay aaj tak koi karwai he nahi ke Pakistan main? Maulana iss tarah to aap taliban ke naak katwa day gay, woh to baray fakhar kay saath takreeban her dehshatgardi ki zimadaari qabool kartay hain. Koi khuda ka khoof karien maulana darogh goi aap ko zaib nahi daiti, aap ko to sub haalaat pata hain aur apni pichli posts main claim kartay aay hain k taliban yeh sub kuch pakistan say badla lainay kay liay kar rahau kion kay pakistan nay bohat say chechen aur uzbek waghara maray hain.

Mery Bhai kuffar ki boli bologay tu kia khak kuch sumhaj paogay.. fauj main kuch tabqay amrica k talway nahi chathna chahtay "benazir musharraf or amrica ki slected kiyani team" k khilaaf baghawat hosakti hai... pehlay koe yeh baat prove tu karday k pakistan main dehshat gardi talban kartay hain abb tak tu serf wizarat-e-kharja or ispr ya yeh shetani siasat dano ki bak bak he hai sachaee tu es main kahin nahi.... fayslay ka waqat hai bhai k apny amrica k mazeed talway chathny hain ya es salaybi jang say bahir nekalna hai ?? salaybi jang say bahir neklo app pehly os k bad jo shorish paeda karay mulk main os k khilaf karwaee karoo...

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

Re: Pakistan's Navy commando Kamran Ahmed along with his two supporters has been arrested

Yaani taliban nay aaj tak koi karwai he nahi ke Pakistan main? Maulana iss tarah to aap taliban ke naak katwa day gay, woh to baray fakhar kay saath takreeban her dehshatgardi ki zimadaari qabool kartay hain. Koi khuda ka khoof karien maulana darogh goi aap ko zaib nahi daiti, aap ko to sub haalaat pata hain aur apni pichli posts main claim kartay aay hain k taliban yeh sub kuch pakistan say badla lainay kay liay kar rahau kion kay pakistan nay bohat say chechen aur uzbek waghara maray hain.

ki hogi bhai bilkul ki hogi magar yeh TTP banaee kisnay thi ???
kia yeh 12sal purani tanzeem nahi hai ??
kia es k offices karachi tak main jaga jaga nahi thay ??


acha wo zemedari humesha qubol kartay hain wo bhi ghair mulki khabar rasaaan agency ko call kar k ??
app k wo intelegence equipment os time kahan hotay hain k app yeh pata karayin k yeh call kahan say hoee ??

dekhayin masail bohat ziyada hai or dalaeel bhi bohat ziyada hain.. magar abb yeh waqat in batoon ka raha nahi bhai.

aap ko to sub haalaat pata hain aur apni pichli posts main claim kartay aay hain k taliban yeh sub kuch pakistan say badla lainay kay liay kar rahau kion kay pakistan nay bohat say chechen aur uzbek waghara maray hain

yeh bhi bilkul sahi baat hai k mainy yehi claim kia hai ..or kuch hadh tak aysa hai bhi magar os main amm awam ko nahi mara gea


or ek baat tu hai tay hai bhai k dunya bhar k musalman apny diffa main lagay hoay hain iqdam nahi outhaya abb tak..
koe apni bordercross kar k kuffar pay humla awar nahi hoa sadiuon say he musalman diffa main hai..


jab afghanistan pay attack hoa tu uzbik tajik chechan pakistan ayy magar inho nay app pay koe attack kia ??
fauj pay koe attack kia ??? qatan nahi kia tha

magar apki fauj nay apki hukomat nay dollar k ewaz inko marna shoro kia or farookht shoro ki inki..

bhai mery apny tu karachi tak k logo ko bech dea...


comander naik mohammad ka kia kusoor tha ?? wo tu afhanistan say wapis a k quetta main apny ghar main reh raha tha fauj say muahida
bhi tha oska ? phir kiuon mara osko ??
bajorh pay mulana faqeer mohammad k madarsay pay humla 80quran hafiz bachay shaheed kia kusoor tha unka ???

bajorh main pak airforce k f16 ki bombatment bila jawaz kia kusoor tha unka ??


heairat hai app log pichli batayin bhool k akhri karwae pay wawela machatay ho yani kise citizen ka blood muqadus hai or villigers
ka ghair muqadus jiski koe oqat nahi.. jab chay bha do...


app log wo waqat kiuon bhol gay jab 500fauji Baitullah mehsood nay yarghamal banay thay ?? or kise ko ek kharash tak nahi pohanchaee??

osnay chorh dea muahida bhi hogea phir apny drone main marwadea osko ??

app yeh kiuon bhool gay k Sawat main molvi fazalullah nay 300fauji yarghamal banay magar kise ko ek kharash nahi pohanchae
bal k sabko chorhtay hoay 500rp perhad bhi dea ...


phir jab wahan amrica ko khosh karny k leyh opreation start kia tu apki fauj nay osko with 300militants afghanistan jany ka rasta
dea ...safely oska pura convy neakala gea wahan say ...

phir achanak khabar aee k qandhar k governer nay aslahay k truk bhejayin hain pakistan sawat main or yahan indian agents bhi mojodh hain yaar ajeeb fauj or ajeeb intelegence hai apki ankho pay patti hoti hai ya salay hain he andhay ..

k afghanistan pak border pay 150000 pure fauj then peramiltiry forces alag fc waghera.. un sab k bawajoodh
bari bari aslhay ki kheyp aa bhi rahi hain mulk k andar or logo ko nekala bhi jaraha hai....khichri khoodh pakaii
or paka k formula bhi bhol gea GHQ :P

main TTP ko defend nahi karraha magar hallat o waqiyat say ankhayin bhi nahi churani chaeyhin
bhai jitnay begunah log es salaybi jang main maray chahay kise k bhi hath say Allah swt unki maghfirat farmayin..

magar mazeed logo ko agar bacahana hai tu amrica ki chataee band karna hogi or yeh opreations bhi band karna hongay..

 

[no-violence]

Re: Pakistan's Navy commando Kamran Ahmed along with his two supporters has been arrested

Chalien ab yeh to sabit ho gaya kay taliban he kar rahay hain yeh sub hamlay, to ab to aap apnay jayed ulema ke baat maan lain aur chorien yeh qatal o gharat

ki hogi bhai bilkul ki hogi magar yeh TTP banaee kisnay thi ???
kia yeh 12sal purani tanzeem nahi hai ??
kia es k offices karachi tak main jaga jaga nahi thay ??


acha wo zemedari humesha qubol kartay hain wo bhi ghair mulki khabar rasaaan agency ko call kar k ??
app k wo intelegence equipment os time kahan hotay hain k app yeh pata karayin k yeh call kahan say hoee ??

dekhayin masail bohat ziyada hai or dalaeel bhi bohat ziyada hain.. magar abb yeh waqat in batoon ka raha nahi bhai.





yeh bhi bilkul sahi baat hai k mainy yehi claim kia hai ..or kuch hadh tak aysa hai bhi magar os main amm awam ko nahi mara gea


or ek baat tu hai tay hai bhai k dunya bhar k musalman apny diffa main lagay hoay hain iqdam nahi outhaya abb tak..
koe apni bordercross kar k kuffar pay humla awar nahi hoa sadiuon say he musalman diffa main hai..


jab afghanistan pay attack hoa tu uzbik tajik chechan pakistan ayy magar inho nay app pay koe attack kia ??
fauj pay koe attack kia ??? qatan nahi kia tha

magar apki fauj nay apki hukomat nay dollar k ewaz inko marna shoro kia or farookht shoro ki inki..

bhai mery apny tu karachi tak k logo ko bech dea...


comander naik mohammad ka kia kusoor tha ?? wo tu afhanistan say wapis a k quetta main apny ghar main reh raha tha fauj say muahida
bhi tha oska ? phir kiuon mara osko ??
bajorh pay mulana faqeer mohammad k madarsay pay humla 80quran hafiz bachay shaheed kia kusoor tha unka ???

bajorh main pak airforce k f16 ki bombatment bila jawaz kia kusoor tha unka ??


heairat hai app log pichli batayin bhool k akhri karwae pay wawela machatay ho yani kise citizen ka blood muqadus hai or villigers
ka ghair muqadus jiski koe oqat nahi.. jab chay bha do...


app log wo waqat kiuon bhol gay jab 500fauji Baitullah mehsood nay yarghamal banay thay ?? or kise ko ek kharash tak nahi pohanchaee??

osnay chorh dea muahida bhi hogea phir apny drone main marwadea osko ??

app yeh kiuon bhool gay k Sawat main molvi fazalullah nay 300fauji yarghamal banay magar kise ko ek kharash nahi pohanchae
bal k sabko chorhtay hoay 500rp perhad bhi dea ...


phir jab wahan amrica ko khosh karny k leyh opreation start kia tu apki fauj nay osko with 300militants afghanistan jany ka rasta
dea ...safely oska pura convy neakala gea wahan say ...

phir achanak khabar aee k qandhar k governer nay aslahay k truk bhejayin hain pakistan sawat main or yahan indian agents bhi mojodh hain yaar ajeeb fauj or ajeeb intelegence hai apki ankho pay patti hoti hai ya salay hain he andhay ..

k afghanistan pak border pay 150000 pure fauj then peramiltiry forces alag fc waghera.. un sab k bawajoodh
bari bari aslhay ki kheyp aa bhi rahi hain mulk k andar or logo ko nekala bhi jaraha hai....khichri khoodh pakaii
or paka k formula bhi bhol gea GHQ :P

main TTP ko defend nahi karraha magar hallat o waqiyat say ankhayin bhi nahi churani chaeyhin
bhai jitnay begunah log es salaybi jang main maray chahay kise k bhi hath say Allah swt unki maghfirat farmayin..

magar mazeed logo ko agar bacahana hai tu amrica ki chataee band karna hogi or yeh opreations bhi band karna hongay..

 

[tiger54]

Re: PNS Mehran: Ex-Navy commando held - Another Mir Jafer !! Why these MIR jaffers are amongst us only !!! a matter of Shame

this ******* should be severely punished for having a hand in the death of our soldiers!!
nothing is more dangerous than having insiders who help extremists kill their own!!!

 

[samar]

Re: Pakistan's Navy commando Kamran Ahmed along with his two supporters has been arrested

Chalien ab yeh to sabit ho gaya kay taliban he kar rahay hain yeh sub hamlay, to ab to aap apnay jayed ulema ke baat maan lain aur chorien yeh qatal o gharat

aik ore cheez b sabit ho geee k TTP pakistan sipah sahab laskr e jhangvi ka hi doosra naam he

 

[no-violence]

Re: Pakistan's Navy commando Kamran Ahmed along with his two supporters has been arrested

aik ore cheez b sabit ho geee k TTP pakistan sipah sahab laskr e jhangvi ka hi doosra naam he

All of them are same, they are mocking us by changing their names. Sad part is that our military has a lot of support for them since these organizations were made by our intelligence agencies.

 

[moazzamniaz]

Re: Pakistan's Navy commando Kamran Ahmed along with his two supporters has been arrested

aik ore cheez b sabit ho geee k TTP pakistan sipah sahab laskr e jhangvi ka hi doosra naam he

اسکے علاوہ جماعت اسلامی اور جے یو آئ وغیرہ انہی ظالمان اور القاعدہ کے شرمندہ-شرمندہ حامی ہیں. اگر خدانخواستہ کبھی کوئی کڑا وقت آیا تو یہ سارے ظالمان ایک طرف اور پاکستانی قوم ایک طرف ہو گی. ملائیت نے ان کی عقلیں سلب کر لی ہیں