PMLN vs PTI

[Okara]

Bhai ;solution is very simple justice ,merit, no discrimination that's it as simple as that.

And who is going to implement these solutions? In my opinion there must be free and fair elections and then let people choose their leaders and those will be able to bring the change.

 

[پرفیکٹ سٹرینجر]

Brother did London 1860 metro was using dedicated track or sharing roads with other vehicles? Was this service managed and operated by a foreign company like in our case Turkish company? In Lahore even garbage collection is managed by Turkish company which mean PMLN is not ready to fix institues but using Lutto Tay Phutto?

بھائی جان یہ ٹھیکہ تکمیل کے بعد سروس دینے کی میاد تک کا ہے جو کہ ہمیشہ کے لئے نہی ہے ۔ اس سروس سے ہی ٹھیکے کے مکمل تخمینے کی ادائیگی بھی ہو جائے گی اور ساتھ میں پاکستانی سٹاف ٹرینگ میں لے چکا ہو گا۔
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[Kamboz]

I have been saying many times, PTI did not learn how to cash the situation, PMLN provided with so many opportunities, but they have been only focused on rigging. There was the Petrol issue, the killing of PTi worker in Faisalbad, they could have surrounded Rana Sana's home until he was in custody.
There are many public issues, which PTI can use to move the public. instead they are humiliated in the Parliament occasionally.
People are not interested in the2 year old rigging, they want day to day solution of problems.

 

[Okara]

بھائی جان یہ ٹھیکہ تکمیل کے بعد سروس دینے کی میاد تک کا ہے جو کہ ہمیشہ کے لئے نہی ہے ۔ اس سروس سے ہی ٹھیکے کے مکمل تخمینے کی ادائیگی بھی ہو جائے گی اور ساتھ میں پاکستانی سٹاف ٹرینگ میں لے چکا ہو گا۔
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Brother the Trukish company is just running Buses and drivers are Pakistani what kind of knowlege require for it? Keep in mind the ticketing and other areas areas of this project are not under turkish company managemant where we might syay we need some help. What is your opinion on auditing these projects? Do we have any independent audit done on any Mega project launched by Punjab goverment?

 

[پرفیکٹ سٹرینجر]

Brother the Trukish company is just running Buses and drivers are Pakistani what kind of knowlege require for it? Keep in mind the ticketing and other areas areas of this project are not under turkish company managemant where we might syay we need some help. What is your opinion on auditing these projects? Do we have any independent audit done on any Mega project launched by Punjab goverment?

جناب یہ بسیں اور سروس اس کل تخمینہ کا حصہ ہیں جو ابھی تک ادا نہی ہوا لیکن شور شرابا کیا جاتا ہے کہ اتنے پیسے لگا دیئے ۔۔۔۔۔
دوسرا ان پروجیکٹس پر ٹرانسپریسی کی رپورٹس نے اسے کلیئر کر دیا ہے ورنہ پنجاب اسمبلی کی اپوزیشن کس مرض کی دوا ہے کہ ان پروجیکٹس پر اسمبلی میں بحث کرے۔ اور آپ جیسے عوام کی شکایات کا ازالہ ہو۔
پاکستان جب سے بنا ہے لوگ نے اسے لوٹا ہے ۔ کھایا ہے ۔۔۔کسی نے نہی پوچھا نا کسی کو یاد رہتا ہے ۔ ۔ لیکن اگر کسی نے لگا دیا تو لمبے عرصہ تک مخالف ہضم نا کرپایا۔۔۔۔۔۔
موٹروے کے بارے بھی اسی طرح کی باتیں کی جاتی تھیں۔ ۔۔۔ آپ کو میڑو کی افادیت کا پتہ آج سے دس سال بعد جا کر شاید اندازہ ہو۔۔۔۔

 

[Okara]

جناب یہ بسیں اور سروس اس کل تخمینہ کا حصہ ہیں جو ابھی تک ادا نہی ہوا لیکن شور شرابا کیا جاتا ہے کہ اتنے پیسے لگا دیئے ۔۔۔۔۔
دوسرا ان پروجیکٹس پر ٹرانسپریسی کی رپورٹس نے اسے کلیئر کر دیا ہے ورنہ پنجاب اسمبلی کی اپوزیشن کس مرض کی دوا ہے کہ ان پروجیکٹس پر اسمبلی میں بحث کرے۔ اور آپ جیسے عوام کی شکایات کا ازالہ ہو۔
پاکستان جب سے بنا ہے لوگ نے اسے لوٹا ہے ۔ کھایا ہے ۔۔۔کسی نے نہی پوچھا نا کسی کو یاد رہتا ہے ۔ ۔ لیکن اگر کسی نے لگا دیا تو لمبے عرصہ تک مخالف ہضم نا کرپایا۔۔۔۔۔۔
موٹروے کے بارے بھی اسی طرح کی باتیں کی جاتی تھیں۔ ۔۔۔ آپ کو میڑو کی افادیت کا پتہ آج سے دس سال بعد جا کر شاید اندازہ ہو۔۔۔۔

Are u saying that there is no need for any audit as there is a report from Transperacy Pakistan clear this project? Then why we have office of Auditor General. Please dissolve this AG department and then we can get report from Transperacy Pakistan not Transperacy International.
Anyway here is the answer to the M-2

"28. The NTC highway investment plan will have to ensure a rational allocation of resources to individual projects and modes of transport. Decisions will need to be based on comparative
costs and sound investment analysis, especially for motorways, to avoid the problems faced by other motorway projects in Pakistan. The Islamabad to Lahore motorway (M2) has been in
operation since 1997. While toll rates have been adjusted over time and revenues have increased, the M2 has so far been unable to cover even operating and maintenance costs, not
to mention capital costs. There has been little development along the road, so the envisioned economic benefits have not been realized either. The unsatisfactory performance of the M2,
which at its conception was considered a prime candidate for private sector involvement, is rooted in two factors: an alignment that is substantially longer than the competing national road"

For reference check this ADB report. http://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/project-document/65724/40075-pak-rrp.pdf

 

[پرفیکٹ سٹرینجر]

Are u saying that there is no need for any audit as there is a report from Transperacy Pakistan clear this project? Then why we have office of Auditor General. Please dissolve this AG department and then we can get report from Transperacy Pakistan not Transperacy International.
Anyway here is the answer to the M-2

"28. The NTC highway investment plan will have to ensure a rational allocation of resources to individual projects and modes of transport. Decisions will need to be based on comparative
costs and sound investment analysis, especially for motorways, to avoid the problems faced by other motorway projects in Pakistan. The Islamabad to Lahore motorway (M2) has been in
operation since 1997. While toll rates have been adjusted over time and revenues have increased, the M2 has so far been unable to cover even operating and maintenance costs, not
to mention capital costs. There has been little development along the road, so the envisioned economic benefits have not been realized either. The unsatisfactory performance of the M2,
which at its conception was considered a prime candidate for private sector involvement, is rooted in two factors: an alignment that is substantially longer than the competing national road"

For reference check this ADB report. http://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/project-document/65724/40075-pak-rrp.pdf

حیرت ہے ۔ بنانے والے کی دو دفعہ حکومت گرائی گئی۔ اسے جیل میں ڈالا گیا۔۔۔۔ جہاز میں ہتھکڑی لگائی گئی ۔ ملک بدر کیا گیا۔۔۔۔۔ بیس سالوں بعد آپ اسی سے پوچھتے ہو کہ اپنا آڈٹ دو۔۔۔۔
واہ بھئی واہ۔۔۔ کیا انصاف ہے ۔۔۔ بھائی صاحب یہ سوال کسی فوج سے پوچھیں۔۔۔۔جو اس دوران ملک پر قبضہ کئے بیٹھا رہا۔۔۔۔
وہ جو چار جرنیل این ایل سی کے اربوں کی کرپشن کرکے موجیں کررہے ہیں۔ یہ کھرا وہاں جاتا ہے ۔۔۔۔جہاں وقار بلند ہوتا ہے ۔۔۔۔
اب کرو گے آڈٹ ان کا؟

 

[Nice2MU]

دراصل عوامی لوگوں کو ڈرامے بازی نہیں آتی

Who told them to do Dramabazi? They should do real work instead.

Plus till this date has any PTI leader brought any scandal of PMLN by using their own sources? No.

IK's 95% press conferences are regarding Dhandli. I hardly heard any wordings from him about other issues.

He suppose to focus more on KP instead of still doing fund raising for SKMH. SKMH is not a small trust anymore. It is already a big giant. Leave it alone and even as per his own statements SKMH is an organisation and it can run without IK.

Last month IK gave only 30 minutes to FM radio in KP because of his so called busy schedule. Now one should ask that he has hours of hours for various Fund Raisings but no time for FM radio to listen people problems. He should keep in mind that SKMH is no more of his responsibility whereas KP is his responsibility and he will be answerable to Allah for KP not for SKMH.

 

[Okara]

We were talkining about the audits of the recent projects completed in the last 7 years. U just mentioned about Motorway and I provided the answere that how feasiable Motorway project is for us as per Asian Development Bank. Why the military ruler sent Sharifs to Jadah? Before going to Jeddah they accepted the court verdict and then President breifcase fame pardon Nawaz Sharif. Sending them to Jedah was also a punishment from a military ruler who was choosen by Sharifs.

حیرت ہے ۔ بنانے والے کی دو دفعہ حکومت گرائی گئی۔ اسے جیل میں ڈالا گیا۔۔۔۔ جہاز میں ہتھکڑی لگائی گئی ۔ ملک بدر کیا گیا۔۔۔۔۔ بیس سالوں بعد آپ اسی سے پوچھتے ہو کہ اپنا آڈٹ دو۔۔۔۔
واہ بھئی واہ۔۔۔ کیا انصاف ہے ۔۔۔ بھائی صاحب یہ سوال کسی فوج سے پوچھیں۔۔۔۔جو اس دوران ملک پر قبضہ کئے بیٹھا رہا۔۔۔۔
وہ جو چار جرنیل این ایل سی کے اربوں کی کرپشن کرکے موجیں کررہے ہیں۔ یہ کھرا وہاں جاتا ہے ۔۔۔۔جہاں وقار بلند ہوتا ہے ۔۔۔۔
اب کرو گے آڈٹ ان کا؟

 

[iltaf]

Follow KPK Updates at twitter, there is alot going on in KP especially in accountability, very good reforms in govt departments on daily basis.

 

[پرفیکٹ سٹرینجر]

We were talkining about the audits of the recent projects completed in the last 7 years. U just mentioned about Motorway and I provided the answere that how feasiable Motorway project is for us as per Asian Development Bank. Why the military ruler sent Sharifs to Jadah? Before going to Jeddah they accepted the court verdict and then President breifcase fame pardon Nawaz Sharif. Sending them to Jedah was also a punishment from a military ruler who was choosen by Sharifs.

آغاوقار آڈٹ نہی کرنے دیتا۔۔۔۔۔

 

[Liaqat Hussain]

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