PML-N & ANP Planning Bloodshed In Karachi ??? ?? ????
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mehwish_ali
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Jury said:
To be very truthful, I don't believe Hamid Mir a cent.
Hamid Mir has one of the biggest CONSPIRACY Evil Mind.
The brother "good guy" from MQM thinks that Hamid Mir is pointing out towards PML-N ex-Chief Minister Ghaus Ali Shah, but this brother may be wrong in his assumption.
I have seen Hamid Mir for long time (and also other Conspiracy Makers). All of them are Burning into Fire from heads to toes why this time there is no fight between MQM and PPP. Hamid Mir type people are the Taliban supporter and biggest Enemy of all non Talibani minded forces. These people want a fight between PPP and MQM and want to destroy Karachi once again and thus MQM too.
There are indeed elements in PPP who hate MQM and want to destroy Karachi and MQM. But thanks Allah, Zardari may be corrupt but he is not a fool. He knows very well the importance of keeping Karachi peaceful and having MQM as it's ally against the Taliban minded forces.
I request the brother of MQM "the Good Guy" to keep my reservations too in mind. It may be PML-N ex Chief Minister. But what if Hamid Mir is pointing towards any PPP ex-Chief Minister? It is not beyond possible that any PPP ex-Minister gets himself involves in such activities. But the high Commands of PPP, MQM and even of ANP should sit together and try their best to keep peace in Karachi and destroy all such conspiracies in Karachi.
My final words about Hamid Mir are these that he should be the LAST person whom we should believe. Till the time he is openly supporting Taliban, he is not so much dangerous. But he becomes really dangerous when he tries to appear in Shape of your friend. Be very very careful what he says while pretending to be your friend.
What a joke?,
There is no need to mention that It was only and only MQM who started discremination among peoples at its creation. It was due to the fact that it was created by the "establishment" to fulfill their objectives. Since its creation, the nation has witnessed thousands of blood shades and killing of innocent peoples by its Terrorists.
The only way to get rid is to bring altaf (Indian Agents) and others MQM terrorist to accountability and award punishment.
There is no need to mention that It was only and only MQM who started discremination among peoples at its creation. It was due to the fact that it was created by the "establishment" to fulfill their objectives. Since its creation, the nation has witnessed thousands of blood shades and killing of innocent peoples by its Terrorists.
The only way to get rid is to bring altaf (Indian Agents) and others MQM terrorist to accountability and award punishment.
gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
rahat said:
thank God. In Khilafat system, there will be no parties, hurrrrrrrrraaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy
to: PML, ANP, MQM, PTI etc
adios amigos, been nice knowin ya
Star Gazer
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I think Hamid Mir is trying to incite mqm into taking action so that a crisis is created and then all political parties will get involved.
In my sincere opinion Hamid Mir should be interrogated as to why did he not give the information to concerned authoroties before bringing it on TV?
What is the source of his information? Because if the sources are not credible then he is liable of causing obstruction to justice and liable for being jailed.
How can he spread news which has not been verified by any means ? He is not even taking the names of the people that he is holding liable for such serious allegations and this is called spreading rumours, therefore he is lying untill proven otherwise.
MQM should be careful not to fall in this trap as should the other parties too. Before taking any steps one should be absolutely sure for this is hearsay so far.
Governer of the province is from mqm and he should investigate this matter as top priority and do not leave it for the chief minister only.
In my sincere opinion Hamid Mir should be interrogated as to why did he not give the information to concerned authoroties before bringing it on TV?
What is the source of his information? Because if the sources are not credible then he is liable of causing obstruction to justice and liable for being jailed.
How can he spread news which has not been verified by any means ? He is not even taking the names of the people that he is holding liable for such serious allegations and this is called spreading rumours, therefore he is lying untill proven otherwise.
MQM should be careful not to fall in this trap as should the other parties too. Before taking any steps one should be absolutely sure for this is hearsay so far.
Governer of the province is from mqm and he should investigate this matter as top priority and do not leave it for the chief minister only.
http://asianwatch.instablogs.com/entry/attempt-to-kill-jsqm-chairman-bashir-qureshi-failed/
Musthaq Khaskheli Cheif of Thatta Chapter of JSQM and an attacker killed in cross firing near Safora Goth Karachi.
Attempt to kill JSQM Chairman Bashir Qureshi failed when MQM Haqiqis Worker Syed Mustafa Zahid killed in retaliatory firing by JSQM workers.
According to local media reports 4 persons on two motorcycles open fired on the car of JSQM Chairman Bashir Qureshi when he was leading a rally in protest against killing of their worker. The tactic was similar to those used in target killing incidents in the city which cost more than 50 lives so far.
JSQM workers recovered cards of an Intelligence agency from both the attackers.
The dead assailant Syed Mustafa Zaida was arrested along with Chairman Haqiqi Afaq Ahmed back in 2004 and was a member of Haqiqi Liaquatabad Sector Committee that time. He was released on bail after eight months.
The Haqiqi faction was introduced in Karachi at the time of Operation against MQM in Karachi by Intelligence Agencies.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=14581
Imran Mediating Between Haqiqi Factions
KARACHI: Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan has been trying for the last few months to broker a deal between the two factions of the Mohajir Qaumi Movement (MQM-Haqiqi) that split during the previous governments tenure, media has reliably learnt.
Emerging as a staunch opponent of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) after the May 12, 2007 mayhem in which several political workers were killed in Karachi, Imran Khan subsequently launched a campaign against the Muttahida. His anti-Muttahida drive started with the help of the MQM-Haqiqi which provided him with evidence of alleged brutalities against it.
Officials of the PTI and both groups of the MQM-Haqiqi confirmed that they have had meetings with Imran Khan on April 17 in Islamabad separately, during which Imran tried to convince them to resolve their mutual differences and work as a single party against the Muttahida in Karachi. Although both the Haqiqi factions and the PTI termed these recent liaisons routine meetings and part of Imran Khans case against Muttahidas London-based Quaid Altaf Hussain insiders claimed that the PTI chief wanted the Haqiqi leaders to get reunited and face the Muttahida in Karachi as a single force.
It is learnt that similar efforts were also being made by other parties of the All Parties Democratic Movement (APDM), including the Jamaat-e-Islami (JI). The APDM leadership was also in touch with the out-of-prison leadership of both the Haqiqi factions.
A leader of MQM-Haqiqis Afaq group admitted that a five-member delegation of their party had a meeting with Imran Khan in Lahore last month, which lasted for around two hours. Several issues, including reconciliation between the Afaq Ahmed and Amir Khan factions of the party, also came under discussion.
Our delegation, comprising Akhtar Hussain, Shamshad Ghauri, Riaz Qureshi, Sohail Anjum Advocate and Rafi Dad, met PTI chief Imran Khan and discussed the Muttahidas vendetta against our workers, the no-go areas issue as well as the frequent killing of our workers in Karachi, he revealed.
When asked whether that meeting had any specific agenda, he said it was a routine meeting but admitted that Imran Khan expressed his wish of building unity among the estranged factions of the party, arguing that a single Mohajir Qaumi Movement would have a lot more political weight and clout than the one divided into two.
On the other hand, PTI officials confirmed that another delegation of the MQM-Haqiqi led-by former MPA Younus Khan had also called on Imran Khan in Lahore in April 2008 and they were also given the same advice by the PTI chief.
However, PTI office-bearers said that so far there was no breakthrough in their efforts to bridge differences between the two Haqiqi factions but added that efforts were still under way as some other parties were also trying to reunite the Haqiqi leadership.
The MQM-Haqiqi and the Muttahida Qaumi Movement have been bitter rivals ever since the former faction split from the main party in the 90s. The Muttahida retained its position as the main voice of the people of Karachi in subsequent years with the Haqiqi reduced to a small rump with tiny pockets of influence. At the time of their split, during the anti-MQM operation in the 90s the Altaf Hussains party accused its rival faction as a creation of the agencies. Many of the Haqiqi leaders and workers fled Sindh to take refuge in Punjab during that period and most of the Haqiqi leadership was eliminated, incarcerated or driven underground.
PTI chief Imran Khan could not be immediately contacted for comment but his spokesman Umar Cheema confirmed that the MQM-Haqiqi leadership has been meeting the PTIs central leadership, including Imran, in recent months. Although he described these secretive meetings as a bid by the MQM-Haqiqi to highlight their plight and miseries at the hands of the Muttahida, Cheema refused to reply to the question: why both factions of the MQM-Haqiqi were meeting Imran Khan alone and not the leadership of the mainstream political parties of the country.
According to Cheema, contacts with the PTI and the MQM-Haqiqi started when Imran decided to lodge a case in the British courts against Muttahida chief Altaf Hussain and requested people to furnish evidence against the Muttahida Qaumi Movements wrongdoings.
People from all over the world, including the MQM-Haqiqi leadership, approached the PTI and provided him evidence against the Muttahida, the PTI spokesman claimed. It was the previous government that did not permit a Scotland Yard team to come to Pakistan and investigate the allegations, he said.
But when asked why the PTI and Haqiqi leadership was meeting so frequently these days even though Imran Khan did not seem enthusiastic in pursuing the London case, Umar Cheema said the Haqiqi leadership was trying to gain political support through these meetings.
Cheema added: But that does not mean that we want them to remain divided. We wish them to get united and play their political role in Karachi as effectively as in the past.. A Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) spokesman, when contacted in this regard, said he could not comment on the meetings till more information was available.
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Musthaq Khaskheli Cheif of Thatta Chapter of JSQM and an attacker killed in cross firing near Safora Goth Karachi.
Attempt to kill JSQM Chairman Bashir Qureshi failed when MQM Haqiqis Worker Syed Mustafa Zahid killed in retaliatory firing by JSQM workers.
According to local media reports 4 persons on two motorcycles open fired on the car of JSQM Chairman Bashir Qureshi when he was leading a rally in protest against killing of their worker. The tactic was similar to those used in target killing incidents in the city which cost more than 50 lives so far.
JSQM workers recovered cards of an Intelligence agency from both the attackers.
The dead assailant Syed Mustafa Zaida was arrested along with Chairman Haqiqi Afaq Ahmed back in 2004 and was a member of Haqiqi Liaquatabad Sector Committee that time. He was released on bail after eight months.
The Haqiqi faction was introduced in Karachi at the time of Operation against MQM in Karachi by Intelligence Agencies.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=14581
Imran Mediating Between Haqiqi Factions
KARACHI: Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan has been trying for the last few months to broker a deal between the two factions of the Mohajir Qaumi Movement (MQM-Haqiqi) that split during the previous governments tenure, media has reliably learnt.
Emerging as a staunch opponent of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) after the May 12, 2007 mayhem in which several political workers were killed in Karachi, Imran Khan subsequently launched a campaign against the Muttahida. His anti-Muttahida drive started with the help of the MQM-Haqiqi which provided him with evidence of alleged brutalities against it.
Officials of the PTI and both groups of the MQM-Haqiqi confirmed that they have had meetings with Imran Khan on April 17 in Islamabad separately, during which Imran tried to convince them to resolve their mutual differences and work as a single party against the Muttahida in Karachi. Although both the Haqiqi factions and the PTI termed these recent liaisons routine meetings and part of Imran Khans case against Muttahidas London-based Quaid Altaf Hussain insiders claimed that the PTI chief wanted the Haqiqi leaders to get reunited and face the Muttahida in Karachi as a single force.
It is learnt that similar efforts were also being made by other parties of the All Parties Democratic Movement (APDM), including the Jamaat-e-Islami (JI). The APDM leadership was also in touch with the out-of-prison leadership of both the Haqiqi factions.
A leader of MQM-Haqiqis Afaq group admitted that a five-member delegation of their party had a meeting with Imran Khan in Lahore last month, which lasted for around two hours. Several issues, including reconciliation between the Afaq Ahmed and Amir Khan factions of the party, also came under discussion.
Our delegation, comprising Akhtar Hussain, Shamshad Ghauri, Riaz Qureshi, Sohail Anjum Advocate and Rafi Dad, met PTI chief Imran Khan and discussed the Muttahidas vendetta against our workers, the no-go areas issue as well as the frequent killing of our workers in Karachi, he revealed.
When asked whether that meeting had any specific agenda, he said it was a routine meeting but admitted that Imran Khan expressed his wish of building unity among the estranged factions of the party, arguing that a single Mohajir Qaumi Movement would have a lot more political weight and clout than the one divided into two.
On the other hand, PTI officials confirmed that another delegation of the MQM-Haqiqi led-by former MPA Younus Khan had also called on Imran Khan in Lahore in April 2008 and they were also given the same advice by the PTI chief.
However, PTI office-bearers said that so far there was no breakthrough in their efforts to bridge differences between the two Haqiqi factions but added that efforts were still under way as some other parties were also trying to reunite the Haqiqi leadership.
The MQM-Haqiqi and the Muttahida Qaumi Movement have been bitter rivals ever since the former faction split from the main party in the 90s. The Muttahida retained its position as the main voice of the people of Karachi in subsequent years with the Haqiqi reduced to a small rump with tiny pockets of influence. At the time of their split, during the anti-MQM operation in the 90s the Altaf Hussains party accused its rival faction as a creation of the agencies. Many of the Haqiqi leaders and workers fled Sindh to take refuge in Punjab during that period and most of the Haqiqi leadership was eliminated, incarcerated or driven underground.
PTI chief Imran Khan could not be immediately contacted for comment but his spokesman Umar Cheema confirmed that the MQM-Haqiqi leadership has been meeting the PTIs central leadership, including Imran, in recent months. Although he described these secretive meetings as a bid by the MQM-Haqiqi to highlight their plight and miseries at the hands of the Muttahida, Cheema refused to reply to the question: why both factions of the MQM-Haqiqi were meeting Imran Khan alone and not the leadership of the mainstream political parties of the country.
According to Cheema, contacts with the PTI and the MQM-Haqiqi started when Imran decided to lodge a case in the British courts against Muttahida chief Altaf Hussain and requested people to furnish evidence against the Muttahida Qaumi Movements wrongdoings.
People from all over the world, including the MQM-Haqiqi leadership, approached the PTI and provided him evidence against the Muttahida, the PTI spokesman claimed. It was the previous government that did not permit a Scotland Yard team to come to Pakistan and investigate the allegations, he said.
But when asked why the PTI and Haqiqi leadership was meeting so frequently these days even though Imran Khan did not seem enthusiastic in pursuing the London case, Umar Cheema said the Haqiqi leadership was trying to gain political support through these meetings.
Cheema added: But that does not mean that we want them to remain divided. We wish them to get united and play their political role in Karachi as effectively as in the past.. A Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) spokesman, when contacted in this regard, said he could not comment on the meetings till more information was available.
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GeoG
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
For the first time Jury I am really saying Thank you to you.
PTI should do everything possible to unite all political forces against the Fasciest Bhatta Khors of Karachi.
There is no harm in meeting Ex Mrs [altaf] , Ex workers of Chooran Limited to gather all evidence to give justice to Peer (sar peer) of London Shareef and hang him high at the bottom of sea.
PTI should do everything possible to unite all political forces against the Fasciest Bhatta Khors of Karachi.
There is no harm in meeting Ex Mrs [altaf] , Ex workers of Chooran Limited to gather all evidence to give justice to Peer (sar peer) of London Shareef and hang him high at the bottom of sea.
mehwish_ali
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Star Gazer said:
Moreover, Hamid Mir is not alone in this Drama. But Dr. Shahid Masood is also involved in it. I know only this Shahid Masood will not let go a single chance to make any conspiracies against PPP at moment. With this combination, it is:
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Both of them have not a Single Ounce Hamdardi for MQM. So the MQM guys should be very careful of combination of these 2. It should be very clear to you that Zardari is taking a lot of Power and Credit for maintaining the Peace in Karachi (opposite to his many other Party Leaders who want to start fight like in 1990s). And mqm guys should also not forget that it was only One guy from PPP who earlier in 1997-1998 accepted the Truth that MQM was not involved in Jinnahpur Saazish.
Altaf Bhai is also very much believing in President Zardari. I remember during a Program Sabzwari Sahib totally refrained from saying any hard words against PPP as coalition Partner and told that they have been specially given very very strict instructions by Altaf Bhai to keep this coalition alive and this is the only way to keep Peace in Karachi and keep it making progress.
We may be having a lot of problems with President Zardari, but we much encourage him if he is taking stand against other leaders of his Party and supporting the Peace in Karachi.
This attitude of Altaf / MQM and its agents is no new. They aways harrased the independent media and tried their best to keep their control on it. It is eveident from the past / present status of media in Karachi / Hyderabad.
The reasons why they don't want independent media in their areas is obiviois to hide their crminal and bhatti khori.
The reasons why they don't want independent media in their areas is obiviois to hide their crminal and bhatti khori.
The latest speech of terrorist Altaf is a shameful act for the peoples of Pakistan and in particular to those that are the "so-called educated class" of Karachi, which still living like slaves. How they are tolerating such Idiot" Altaf, who is behaving like a mental case in his speech. Is there was anything which he convey or just want to be on the media for showing a "JOKER". The media is so afraid from his terrorists that they were compelled to live telecast this idiot.
These peoples who are still supporting this idiot will be responsible for their act here and day after death.
May ALLAH give them the courage to see the right path as ordered in QURAN.
These peoples who are still supporting this idiot will be responsible for their act here and day after death.
May ALLAH give them the courage to see the right path as ordered in QURAN.
