Overseas Pakistani are not trust worthy to give any important job in Pakistan. Chief Justice of Paki

Shero

Banned
Tanqeed koo chorain,
Yaa pehlay wala jhoota,yaa doosaray wala jhootaa.kisi aik koo tasleem karnaa hogaa.


Kisi aik koo too sach bolnaa chahiay,nakeh daleel dar daleel dainaa sharoo hoo jaoo.

Doo jagaah halaf uthaa kar kiss kiss kay sath insaaf karoo gay.

Moeen qurashi ?
Shokat aziz ?
majooda wazire dakhlaa ?
Hussain haqani +farahnaz asphani ? kis kis kachaa chathaa yaad karoogay,tabahi kee dastaan buhat lambi hay.


Musharf foreign national tha ?
zia ul haq foreing national tha ?
ayub khan kon tha ?

teri kahani ko mai idher he short kar deta hon ,,, you can count on fingers foreign national par tu apnay PAKKAY corrupt pakistaniyon ki list khabi nai bana paya ga
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Now that India too allows Dual Nationality, Hypothetically imagine a Citizen of both India and Pakistan

Would ANY of you be comfortable with him/her standing in Pakistan

Go further, Imagine they have a house in India, money and business

and travels there regularly

should the rules be different for each country ?

I think not

PS I know India only permits dual nationality on a conditional basis, and the scenario is only for example purposes



why not?after all a lot of high level politicians in every party of pakistan work for and take regular salary from american and indian agencies.so if such people are allowed to rule over pakistan than why not allow indians and israeli nationals to directly rule over pakistan?this way confusion would be less atleast.
lol
 

Shero

Banned
main 11 saal se pakistan se bahir hoon,aur Alhamd u Lillah Main ne abhi tak kisi b Country ki nationality k liay apply nahi kiya,na hi mujhay zaroorat hain,aur i LOVE greaan pasport,but CH saheb ne sahi kiya hay,jin k paas 2 nationality hain,wo pakistan k kaisya wafa dar ho saktay hain,unhoon ne tu uk ya usa k countries se promis kiya hota hay,k wo humaisha uk ya usa se wafadar rahain ge,


aur jo being a MUSLIM made a promise with ALLAH SWT ? uska kya ... as i said you ppl want to believe only foreign oath but you ppl dont want to believe that same person which he took with pakistani parliament
 

imyrathore

MPA (400+ posts)
so you think supreme courts judgement only hold against Frahnaz and Rehman malik? supreme court judgements are like trends , from now anyone overseas Pakistanis whose honest or not will be barred from participating in elections .
Read my previous post - if u wanna take part in active politics and hold a public office then give up the other nationality. U cant make strategic policy decisions whilst having a conflict of interest.
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
Well Said CJ

Chaudhry Iftikhar is an idiot, he should know that all overseas Pakistanis do not have dual nationality. There are many Pakistanis who only have Pakistani nationality. He is a judge, he should be more careful with the words he chooses to express himself. Instead of saying that overseas Pakistanis are not trust worthy, he should have said Pakistanis with dual nationalities are not eligible for such and such positions, he should also declare that

1. Pakistanis with foreign wives
2. Pakistanis with children from foreign wives
3. Pakistanis whose major portion of wealth is outside of Pakistan
4. Pakistanis who have not lived continuously in Pakistan for last 15 or 20 years
are not eligible to run for such and such positions.

All the above conditions would preclude AZ, NS, IK, AH and others from running for the Prime Ministership.
 

Shero

Banned
why not?after all a lot of high level politicians in every party of pakistan work for and take regular salary from american and indian agencies.so if such people are allowed to rule over pakistan than why not allow indians and israeli nationals to directly rule over pakistan?this way confusion would be less atleast.
lol

meet this conpiracy theoriest , that nut thinks every wrong thing is done by politicians and the rest of country is full of saints,,, let me put some sense in your thick head

Bijli chor pakistani
millwat khor pakistani
rishwat khor pakistani
tax evaders pakistani
remember the protest against load shedding and the same crowd lotted a watermelon truck and ate it
common pakistani also does not respect traffic lights
common pakistani also does not respect teachers ,, look at punjab university
common pakistani does not believe in law,,,look at sialkot brothers

and then only blame politicians when you common Pakistani are no better then them
 

Shero

Banned
Read my previous post - if u wanna take part in active politics and hold a public office then give up the other nationality. U cant make strategic policy decisions whilst having a conflict of interest.

why give up ? when a overseas pakistani take oath by making ALLAH SWT as guardian ? then why doubting his oath jo wo ALlah pak ko hazir nazir jaan kar lay raha hai?

actually you ppl gave more weigh to foreign oath then his pakistani oath
 

nuzhatghazali

Minister (2k+ posts)
جی بلکل متفق ہیں . ملک سے باہر رہنے والوں کو خود ہی اس حق سے دسبردار ہوجانا چاہیے کیونکے وہ
بہتر جگہ پر ہیں . یہ حق پاکستان میں رہنے والوں کو ہی ملنا چاہیے ،ورنہ اس سہولت کا فائدہ کرپٹ لوگ اٹھا لیں گے
کھاؤ پیو اور پھوٹ لو . شوکت عزیز کی طرح .
 

imyrathore

MPA (400+ posts)
why give up ? when a overseas pakistani take oath by making ALLAH SWT as guardian ? then why doubting his oath jo wo ALlah pak ko hazir nazir jaan kar lay raha hai?

actually you ppl gave more weigh to foreign oath then his pakistani oath
Bud u are being so naive. Zardari and nawaz sharif and musharaf, zia, ayaub, bhuttos and countless others all made the same oaths and look what they did to the country, its resources and the impact they have had on its masses. Mate the the type of leadership u need is the one that is going to stay in Pak when the chips r down and not run abroad to live in ther palaces (built from haraam). Any nation that has prospered has done it because of the toil of its people and the sincerity of its leadership. For me dual national paks can play a great role in supporting pak but the line has to be drawn when it comes to holding public office in an elected capacity.
 

Shero

Banned
جی بلکل متفق ہیں . ملک سے باہر رہنے والوں کو خود ہی اس حق سے دسبردار ہوجانا چاہیے کیونکے وہ
بہتر جگہ پر ہیں . یہ حق پاکستان میں رہنے والوں کو ہی ملنا چاہیے ،ورنہ اس سہولت کا فائدہ کرپٹ لوگ اٹھا لیں گے
کھاؤ پیو اور پھوٹ لو . شوکت عزیز کی طرح .

i have a better idea , why shouldn't court pass a order declaring all dual nationals as non pakistanis ? and court should also ban non pakistanis sending remittances to pakistan.
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Bud u are being so naive. Zardari and nawaz sharif and musharaf, zia, ayaub, bhuttos and countless others all made the same oaths and look what they did to the country, its resources and the impact they have had on its masses. Mate the the type of leadership u need is the one that is going to stay in Pak when the chips r down and not run abroad to live in ther palaces (built from haraam). Any nation that has prospered has done it because of the toil of its people and the sincerity of its leadership. For me dual national paks can play a great role in supporting pak but the line has to be drawn when it comes to holding public office in an elected capacity.

Totally agree

If they are genuine and sincere in wanting to help Pakistan and move it forward,there are so many other ways they can contribute,without holding Public Office. If the purpose is to serve,then do it selflessly

I quoted Kennedy before I willdo it again

Ask not what your Country can do for you,but what you can do for your Country
 

islamabadi6

Councller (250+ posts)
You are confusing people here by twisting facts for your convinience. Fact is there is a difference between an oveseas Pakistani and a dual national. I know of overseas Pakistanis living in USA for 20 years on a green card. They are overseas Pakistanis and have not taken another nationality. Dual nationals are those who pledged allegiance to another country. The majority of Overseas Pakistanis are not Dual nationals by the way including the millions in the middle east.
 

Shero

Banned
Bud u are being so naive. Zardari and nawaz sharif and musharaf, zia, ayaub, bhuttos and countless others all made the same oaths and look what they did to the country, its resources and the impact they have had on its masses. Mate the the type of leadership u need is the one that is going to stay in Pak when the chips r down and not run abroad to live in ther palaces (built from haraam). Any nation that has prospered has done it because of the toil of its people and the sincerity of its leadership. For me dual national paks can play a great role in supporting pak but the line has to be drawn when it comes to holding public office in an elected capacity.

what you talking about ? you are agreeing on part that when it comes to corruption the same pakistani are no better then Dual national pakistanis , then why the ban on dual nationals ? go get some better sense ...

you can't judge anyone's intention as i said before the same dual national pakistani also take take oath before joining NATIONAL PARLIAMENT and that is called ISLAMIC OATH by the way .. then who are you to judge anyone's intention ? why dont you say he will protect interest of pakistan since he took ISLAMIC OATH ?
just punish the corrupt if he is anyone pakistani or dual pakistani
 

imyrathore

MPA (400+ posts)
Totally agree

If they are genuine and sincere in wanting to help Pakistan and move it forward,there are so many other ways they can contribute,without holding Public Office. If the purpose is to serve,then do it selflessly

I quoted Kennedy before I willdo it again

Ask not what your Country can do for you,but what you can do for your Country
Bud u just hit the nail on the head. The current bunch of morons sat in the federal and provisional governments dont know the meaning of the word selflessly - ther raison d'etre in politics is to make money. Its a bloody joke to expect these guys to give any credence to the oath or the plight of the people.

For example - lets compare Aung San Suu Kyi to Nawaz Sharif. Nawaz Sharif came into politics in the lap of generals and used his time in power to build up a billion pound empire (by looting the country resources), when he was ousted by Musharaf he chose to run abroad. In comparison we have Aung San Suu Kyi who stood up for the people against military dictatorship for 21 odd years and spent at least over 15 years under house arrest.
 

imyrathore

MPA (400+ posts)
@Shero - i made a very clear statement that an oath is oath (i wasnt trying to compare who is the worst crook) - it doesn't stop anyone screwing the state and gave u some examples of people who have sold the country short. My friend i do have better sense and therefore will again reiterate my view that u cant compromise a nations interest by allowing a dual national to make strategic policy decisions. End of the day the interest of the nation and its people come first not trying to fit the ego of individuals. If u wanna serve the nation then serve without expecting any return - selflessly is the term used by @UKPakistani - which i agree is the best way to describe it. I believe its a no brainier when it comes to serving the country in an elected capacity and holding public office u cannot be a dual national as u have a conflict of interest.
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Bud u just hit the nail on the head. The current bunch of morons sat in the federal and provisional governments dont know the meaning of the word selflessly - ther raison d'etre in politics is to make money. Its a bloody joke to expect these guys to give any credence to the oath or the plight of the people.

For example - lets compare Aung San Suu Kyi to Nawaz Sharif. Nawaz Sharif came into politics in the lap of generals and used his time in power to build up a billion pound empire (by looting the country resources), when he was ousted by Musharaf he chose to run abroad. In comparison we have Aung San Suu Kyi who stood up for the people against military dictatorship for 21 odd years and spent at least over 15 years under house arrest.

Dost to compare the likes of the Tind of Lahore to Aung San, Mandela, Castro, Chavez and the like is an insult to Statesmen (woman)

These lot Tind and Co, the Dirty Peer of Multan, The Wife Murderer The Village idiots from Gujrat, and the Edgware Terrorist, and cronies of all, are criminals who owe the people of Pakistan, far more than money. They owe everything they have and much much more

Inshahallah their fate will be sealed by Allah through the Masses of Pakistan as soon as he wills it
 
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zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Musharf foreign national tha ?
zia ul haq foreing national tha ?
ayub khan kon tha ?

teri kahani ko mai idher he short kar deta hon ,,, you can count on fingers foreign national par tu apnay PAKKAY corrupt pakistaniyon ki list khabi nai bana paya ga
Jabb tak dogalay pakistani hain kahani short naheen hoo sakay gee,bulkeh tumharee kahani khudd khatam hoo jaay gee.
Pataa naheen kahan say uth kar aajatay hain zara apni back history bhee parh loo,pata chall jaaygaa kon kia thaa,yeh joo samanay aarahaa hay kkhud apnaa hee kia dhara hay,kabhee apni aqal istemaal kee hoti too yeh dinn naa daikhanay partay.
 

VoteME

Minister (2k+ posts)
I am living in Sweden and I agree with CJ. I came for here for my better future, if I loved my country that much I would have stayed there and felt happy for what I had(even if it was so less). Be true to your self and then ask the same question, I bet you will agree with CJ.
 

Shero

Banned
i can't argue with taxi drivers, cleaners, truck drivers , basically these what most of pakistani do when they live in foreign .. for me no matter where i live , and how many nationality i get , pakistani interest would be the first interest for me
 

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