Overseas Pakistani are not trust worthy to give any important job in Pakistan. Chief Justice of Paki

ahaseeb

Minister (2k+ posts)
Many of the people who were/are in self exile did not had foreign nationalities ..
If you loot the country, you do not need any passport :)
 

salaudin

Senator (1k+ posts)
CJ did not say that.
Duel citizenship holders could not be allowed to be a member of the parliament. It is in line with the laws globally implemented. There is nothing wrong with it.
 

ranaji

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
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پاکستان کے اورسیز پاکستانیوں کو یہ حق حاصل ہے کے وہ پاکستان کے پارلیمنٹ کے ممبر بن سکیں ؟ یا پاکستان سے باہر رہنے والے پاکستانی باہر رہنے کی وجہ سے کم پاکستانی ہوجاتے ہیں؟ چیف جسٹس آف پاکستان فرماتے ہیں کیوں کے اورسیز پاکستانیوں نے باہر کا حلف اٹھا لیا ہوتا ہے تو وہ عتبار قابل نہیں رہتے کے انکو پاکستان میں کوئی اہم عہدہ دیا جایا.

چیف صاحب بھول گیا ہے کے مسلمان جہاں رہتا ہے وہ صرف مسلمان ہی رہتا ہے اور وہ مجبوری میں جسکا مرضی حلف اٹھا لے مگر اسکی ساری محبت دوسرے مسلمان کے ساتھ ہی رہتی ہے

میں خود پاکستان میں پیدا ہوا اور ٢٥ سال پاکستان میں رہنے کے بعد اورسیز چلا گیا اور مجے چیف صحاب کی ان باتوں سے سخت کوفت ہوئی ہے کے پاکستانی اورسیز جا کر پاکستان کا وفادار نہیں رہتا.

آپ لوگ چیف صحاب کی باتوں سے متفق ہیں ؟

rehman malik,haqani.altaf.waghera ki missal aap ke samney hai ,,mai bhi 27 saal saay pakistan say baher hoon laiken mai cj saay mutafiq hoon (majority wafadaar hogi magar hajjam malik haqani jaison ki khater yeh remarks sahih hain)
 

Competent

Minister (2k+ posts)
I think CJ remarks are very well. i think you guys have some misunderstandings about what he is saying.
CJ saying that overseas Pakistanis can not qualify for the key positions in Government or any other department since they are foreign nationals too.
I agree that there should be very strict checks on governing bodies specials who have to take decisions for Pakistan.

Mein khud UK mein rehta hun. CJ k ye remarks bilkul durast nahi hain but I am in favour that Dual Natioanlities holder should not be allowed to contest election. Only Pakistani passport holders should be allowed to become PM of Pakistan.

But, still, CJ has no right to call overseas pakistani not trustworthy.
 

Wajdan

MPA (400+ posts)
I think CJ remarks are very well. i think you guys have some misunderstandings about what he is saying.
CJ saying that overseas Pakistanis can not qualify for the key positions in Government or any other department since they are foreign nationals too.
I agree that there should be very strict checks on governing bodies specials who have to take decisions for Pakistan.

I am not in favor in overseas pakistanis holding public offices. The thing i did not like is; Overseas Pakistani are not trusthworthy, maybe this sentence was mis phrased by OP.
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
shyed tu bhol raha hai kay hum Pakistani honay kay sath MUSLAMAN bhi hain .. jab dosray country ka oath uthya jata hai tu sirf wo aik paper par oath hoti hai..

jab parliament ka oath uthya jata hai tu woh ALLAH SWT ko hazir nazir jaan kar uthaya jata hai..

par nahi jasay pahlay bola baat tu hum oath tu usko maneen gey jo foreign country main uthya gya ho


I do not know about other countries,but I was British when I was 12, asI camehere as dependent. I took no oath,and I have a Pakistani Passport because I was born there

My Children have Pak Nationality because they are born to Pakistani Parents,they are British by British and took no such Oath to the Queen. So not all Overseas Pakistanis have taken oaths

I do take the point however. As a dual national I am firmly of the opinion that dual nationals should NOT be permitted to hold or run for election of any kind within Pakistan.

I love Pakistan, but I would want to disqualify my entire extended family here from being able to do so.

I would go further, those with more than a million dollars abroad should be barred, until they move most of it to Pakistan in any form they choose and give up any right to return when the going gets tough.

No properties,bank accounts businesses,


To serve Pakistan in Pakistan become 100% Pakistani,so that your fate is entwined with the fortunes of Pakistan.

Pakistan needs nothing less
 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Tanqeed koo chorain,
Yaa pehlay wala jhoota,yaa doosaray wala jhootaa.kisi aik koo tasleem karnaa hogaa.


Kisi aik koo too sach bolnaa chahiay,nakeh daleel dar daleel dainaa sharoo hoo jaoo.

Doo jagaah halaf uthaa kar kiss kiss kay sath insaaf karoo gay.

Moeen qurashi ?
Shokat aziz ?
majooda wazire dakhlaa ?
Hussain haqani +farahnaz asphani ? kis kis kachaa chathaa yaad karoogay,tabahi kee dastaan buhat lambi hay.
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
CJ did not say that.
Duel citizenship holders could not be allowed to be a member of the parliament. It is in line with the laws globally implemented. There is nothing wrong with it.

With respect it is not

In the UK there are many MPs with dual nationality

Further,look up Gerry Adams,

Previously a terrorist (IRA)

Then MP at Westminister UK Parliament from Northern Ireland

Now MP in the Irish Parliament

Thats what you call a dual National


PS, To run in elections in the UK you only have to be Commonwealth Citizen, you do NOT have to be a British National, who is registered to vote, and meets the residence requirements.
 

ambroxo

Minister (2k+ posts)
بات کو کیا سے کیا بنا دیا ہے
:crazy:............................​


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پاکستان کے اورسیز پاکستانیوں کو یہ حق حاصل ہے کے وہ پاکستان کے پارلیمنٹ کے ممبر بن سکیں ؟ یا پاکستان سے باہر رہنے والے پاکستانی باہر رہنے کی وجہ سے کم پاکستانی ہوجاتے ہیں؟ چیف جسٹس آف پاکستان فرماتے ہیں کیوں کے اورسیز پاکستانیوں نے باہر کا حلف اٹھا لیا ہوتا ہے تو وہ عتبار قابل نہیں رہتے کے انکو پاکستان میں کوئی اہم عہدہ دیا جایا.

چیف صاحب بھول گیا ہے کے مسلمان جہاں رہتا ہے وہ صرف مسلمان ہی رہتا ہے اور وہ مجبوری میں جسکا مرضی حلف اٹھا لے مگر اسکی ساری محبت دوسرے مسلمان کے ساتھ ہی رہتی ہے

میں خود پاکستان میں پیدا ہوا اور ٢٥ سال پاکستان میں رہنے کے بعد اورسیز چلا گیا اور مجے چیف صحاب کی ان باتوں سے سخت کوفت ہوئی ہے کے پاکستانی اورسیز جا کر پاکستان کا وفادار نہیں رہتا.

آپ لوگ چیف صحاب کی باتوں سے متفق ہیں ؟

 

Competent

Minister (2k+ posts)
I don't thing CJ can give such statement. he can not be that stupid.
I am not in favor in overseas pakistanis holding public offices. The thing i did not like is; Overseas Pakistani are not trusthworthy, maybe this sentence was mis phrased by OP.
 

lotaa

Minister (2k+ posts)
main 11 saal se pakistan se bahir hoon,aur Alhamd u Lillah Main ne abhi tak kisi b Country ki nationality k liay apply nahi kiya,na hi mujhay zaroorat hain,aur i LOVE greaan pasport,but CH saheb ne sahi kiya hay,jin k paas 2 nationality hain,wo pakistan k kaisya wafa dar ho saktay hain,unhoon ne tu uk ya usa k countries se promis kiya hota hay,k wo humaisha uk ya usa se wafadar rahain ge,
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پاکستان کے اورسیز پاکستانیوں کو یہ حق حاصل ہے کے وہ پاکستان کے پارلیمنٹ کے ممبر بن سکیں ؟ یا پاکستان سے باہر رہنے والے پاکستانی باہر رہنے کی وجہ سے کم پاکستانی ہوجاتے ہیں؟ چیف جسٹس آف پاکستان فرماتے ہیں کیوں کے اورسیز پاکستانیوں نے باہر کا حلف اٹھا لیا ہوتا ہے تو وہ عتبار قابل نہیں رہتے کے انکو پاکستان میں کوئی اہم عہدہ دیا جایا.

چیف صاحب بھول گیا ہے کے مسلمان جہاں رہتا ہے وہ صرف مسلمان ہی رہتا ہے اور وہ مجبوری میں جسکا مرضی حلف اٹھا لے مگر اسکی ساری محبت دوسرے مسلمان کے ساتھ ہی رہتی ہے

میں خود پاکستان میں پیدا ہوا اور ٢٥ سال پاکستان میں رہنے کے بعد اورسیز چلا گیا اور مجے چیف صحاب کی ان باتوں سے سخت کوفت ہوئی ہے کے پاکستانی اورسیز جا کر پاکستان کا وفادار نہیں رہتا.

آپ لوگ چیف صحاب کی باتوں سے متفق ہیں ؟

 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Somebody find a list of all current dual national Parliamentarians, MPAs and Diplomats

maybe that is what the CJ meant IF he said there is a problem with trust

Rahman Malik

Hussain Haqqani

Please continue and ask YOURSELVES how trustworthy
 
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salaudin

Senator (1k+ posts)
With respect it is not

In the UK there are many MPs with dual nationality

Further,look up Gerry Adams,

Previously a terrorist (IRA)

Then MP at Westminister UK Parliament from Northern Ireland

Now MP in the Irish Parliament

Thats what you call a dual National


PS, To run in elections in the UK you only have to be Commonwealth Citizen, you do NOT have to be a British National, who is registered to vote, and meets the residence requirements.
Thanks for correction. I should have been a bit more careful. At least for US and many other countries, you have to be only US citizen (Israel is an exception off course) to run for public office.
 

imyrathore

MPA (400+ posts)
[MENTION=28592]Shero[/MENTION] Another emotional outburst without understanding the context behind the statement. Just to be clear he made the statement in relation to Farah Isphani the wife of husain haqani who is proving to be a turn coat and enemy of the country. Similarly we have others dual nationals like Rehman Malik, Choudhary nisar (allegedly) and others whose substantial assets are overseas who have a very senior role in pak politics and can influence strategic decisions. These type of people can be easily persuaded by ther overseas masters. For me as a dual nationality holder if u wanna engage in active politics (and i mean holding an official office and in an elected capacity) then u need to burn ur other boats and stick with one nation rather than having ur feet in two camps.
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Now that India too allows Dual Nationality, Hypothetically imagine a Citizen of both India and Pakistan

Would ANY of you be comfortable with him/her standing in Pakistan

Go further, Imagine they have a house in India, money and business

and travels there regularly

should the rules be different for each country ?

I think not

PS I know India only permits dual nationality on a conditional basis, and the scenario is only for example purposes
 

Shero

Banned
@Shero Another emotional outburst without understanding the context behind the statement. Just to be clear he made the statement in relation to Farah Isphani the wife of husain haqani who is proving to be a turn coat and enemy of the country. Similarly we have others dual nationals like Rehman Malik, Choudhary nisar (allegedly) and others whose substantial assets are overseas who have a very senior role in pak politics and can influence strategic decisions. These type of people can be easily persuaded by ther overseas masters. For me as a dual nationality holder if u wanna engage in active politics (and i mean holding an official office and in an elected capacity) then u need to burn ur other boats and stick with one nation rather than having ur feet in two camps.

so you think supreme courts judgement only hold against Frahnaz and Rehman malik? supreme court judgements are like trends , from now anyone overseas Pakistanis whose honest or not will be barred from participating in elections .
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
no independent or respectable nation allows those people to govern them who prefer not to live in their own country.full stop
 

imyrathore

MPA (400+ posts)
[MENTION=12078]lotaa[/MENTION] For me the biggest issue is the likes of the Sharif clan, Zardari, Wali Khan, Fazul, iltaaf, Shujat and ther cronies who are the biggest enemies of pak. They can be easily manipulated by ther overlords because all ther ill gotten assets are invested overseas.
 

Shero

Banned
Somebody find a list of all current dual national Parliamentarians, MPAs and Diplomats

maybe that is what the CJ meant IF he said there is a problem with trust

Rahman Malik

Hussain Haqqani

Please continue and ask YOURSELVES how trustworthy

lets make a list of how many foreign national pakistanis are corrupt and how many "Pakistani Pakistanis" are corrupt
 

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