On Which Side Iran is..........Israel, US & India OR Pakistan? Syed Zaid Hamid Questions.

[Beef.Bhaijan]

our enemy doesnt start wars looking at our poverty, education BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Zaid bhai is a patriot . If you dont like what he says then take your business elsewhere.

NO one invited anyone to this thread

He is nafsiati, he thinks Pakistan can fight against USA and India. I think its better that we focus on our economy and solving some of the problems we are facing such as poverty, healthcare and education.

 

[Beef.Bhaijan]

yes yes we know as if RAW, CIA and mossad have nothing to do with our elections.

One wonders why all the traitors like noora , madari etc have permanent homes and lodges in their ACTUAL countries abroad :)


Pakistanis are not delusional, infact delusional are those who think everything is Pakistans fault. It isnt.

Pakistanis are fond of conspiracy theories and blaming everything on invisible enemies. We are our own enemies. Pakistani people themselves voted for those crooks and gave their lives for them. We have been a corrupt nation giving birth to corrupt leaders and then blaming others for our problems.

 

[Vitamin_C]

Patriotism is a double edged sword, youth have been fooled in many countries in the name of emotions and patriotism. The warmongering going on in India right now is also in the name of patriotism.

our enemy doesnt start wars looking at our poverty, education BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Zaid bhai is a patriot . If you dont like what he says then take your business elsewhere.

NO one invited anyone to this thread

 

[Vitamin_C]

I was in interior Sindh in 2007-2008... If you think PPP needed Raw, Cia & Mossad to come into power then its you who is delusional. We brought these people into power. Zaid Hamid is fooling you guys. Our military budget is $8bn ... USA is $700bn. If they wanted to fight us they can do it overtly. In reality we are an impoverished country. 50% of our population is illiterate. We do not have an economy. Trying to damage Pakistan is like trying to rob an empty house.

yes yes we know as if RAW, CIA and mossad have nothing to do with our elections.

One wonders why all the traitors like noora , madari etc have permanent homes and lodges in their ACTUAL countries abroad :)


Pakistanis are not delusional, infact delusional are those who think everything is Pakistans fault. It isnt.

 

[Passion76]

Pakistanis are fond of conspiracy theories and blaming everything on invisible enemies. We are our own enemies. Pakistani people themselves voted for those crooks and gave their lives for them. We have been a corrupt nation giving birth to corrupt leaders and then blaming others for our problems.

Wrong vitamin C.. No one is FOND Of invisible enemies, insane conjecture Mr C. OUR enemies are visible. 1. Zionist entity bastard child of Satan aka ISRAHELL. 2. Kalee Maa a bastard CHILD of Hunuman. 3. America, aka GREAT Satan..

All have one thing in common.. Muslim blood. Fact.

No one voted for these crooks as you call them.. These degenerates were a punishment from Almighty on Pakistan.

Correction.. Your generalization regarding Pakistan seem very convenient.. We have two of the MOST corrupt family Ltd parties, penetrated by CIA/RAW/MOSSAD..

A open secret known to every one in Pakistan. Now we have a Pakistani Made government..

Not made in Jew controlled USA or Delhi with Sarees from Jamadar lohaar or the 4 Indians who are managing Zardaree haramis stolen money of Pakistan.. Greek tragedy..

4 Indian RAW agents managing stolen Money of a former murderer of BB, EX PRESIDENT Asif Zardaree Haramee and his stolen Pakistan ASSETS?

C.. Judgement day approaches the tribe of Satan of Jati Mujrah and whorehouse of Clifton.

These two male PROSTITUTES were running Pakistan as THEIR personal fiefdom.

Angel of DEATH awaits their arrivals with extreme hot lava.
You C?

 

[Beef.Bhaijan]

You can be in sindh and i can be anywhere i want. You have no idea of the penetration of enemies we have in our beaurocracy.

Ofcourse they will be "our people" who get compromised.

Military budgets : even India has more...look what happened with them.

If Pakistan is so empty why are so many people after it.

I cannot remove delusions - only time will do that.

I was in interior Sindh in 2007-2008... If you think PPP needed Raw, Cia & Mossad to come into power then its you who is delusional. We brought these people into power. Zaid Hamid is fooling you guys. Our military budget is $8bn ... USA is $700bn. If they wanted to fight us they can do it overtly. In reality we are an impoverished country. 50% of our population is illiterate. We do not have an economy. Trying to damage Pakistan is like trying to rob an empty house.

 

[Beef.Bhaijan]

agree with you with whats going in India.

Patriotism is a double edged sword, youth have been fooled in many countries in the name of emotions and patriotism. The warmongering going on in India right now is also in the name of patriotism.

 

[bhaibarood]

U have trampled the infectious mole savagely.?

Zaid bhai please tell us KSA and UAE supported India in OIC vs Pakistan. Then they also said India will be part of OIC one day. They invested $20bn in Pak vs $100bn in India .Saudis also chitrol you last time you visited Makkah. Tell me Saudis are on our side or India?

 

[AdamA]

Zaid bhai please tell us KSA and UAE supported India in OIC vs Pakistan. Then they also said India will be part of OIC one day. They invested $20bn in Pak vs $100bn in India .Saudis also chitrol you last time you visited Makkah. Tell me Saudis are on our side or India?

Saudis are on side of Saudis and Iran is on the side of Iran.

 

[Passion76]

agree with you with whats going in India.

I am sensing a confusion in your thought process..

Contrived robotic written replies indicate serial personalities disorder. Question..

Who Is vitamin C?

 

[Beef.Bhaijan]

so what are you suggesting ? ..That I'm a Bot ?? ...lolol

I am sensing a confusion in your thought process..

Contrived robotic written replies indicate serial personalities disorder. Question..

Who Is vitamin C?

 

[Passion76]

so what are you suggesting ? ..That I'm a Bot ?? ...lolol

No my question was for Vitamin C. Sent it to u by mistake.

 

[AdamA]

ZH is getting desperate for someone who claims to be an 'Analyst'. If he needs to know Iranian position then I recommend him to read the following book:

Treacherous Alliance: The Secret Dealings of Israel, Iran, and the U.S by Trita Parsi

 

[Vitamin_C]

I have family very close family members in top bureaucracy and in military. We have a big issue in our institutions but its not foreign involvement, its over involvement of our own politicians that we ourselves voted in. The problem comes back to us, Pakistanis. Not Israel or USA. There is no one after Pakistan, India just wants Kashmir and Israel just wants to survive. Only country after Pakistan may be Afghanistan because they want KPK and Balochistan.

You can be in sindh and i can be anywhere i want. You have no idea of the penetration of enemies we have in our beaurocracy.

Ofcourse they will be "our people" who get compromised.

Military budgets : even India has more...look what happened with them.

If Pakistan is so empty why are so many people after it.

I cannot remove delusions - only time will do that.

 

[Vitamin_C]

Oh please spare me the personal attacks. If you have no more arguments you can just be honest about it. But don't tell me that a country with $20,000 billion economy and $700 billion military spending needs to use some kind of underhanded and hidden tactics to fight an impoverished country with $300 billion economy and $8 billion military budget.

I am sensing a confusion in your thought process..

Contrived robotic written replies indicate serial personalities disorder. Question..

Who Is vitamin C?

 

[Beef.Bhaijan]

Your may very well have sources but enemy agencies "infect" only certain people in high up places to avoid being detected . Thats how its done.

Ajit doval the indian national security adviser has himself admitted this in an interview etc.

If the USA has no interest in us what is it doing in afghanistan ? After spending a trillion dollars what did it achieve ?

You seen the size of the US embassy in Islamabad ?...I dont know which world you live in. Do you remember Raymond Davis ?

You know nothing my friend. Im glad you have knowledge of whatever your exposure is, but their is more to the truth than what is apparent to you.

I have family very close family members in top bureaucracy and in military. We have a big issue in our institutions but its not foreign involvement, its over involvement of our own politicians that we ourselves voted in. The problem comes back to us, Pakistanis. Not Israel or USA. There is no one after Pakistan, India just wants Kashmir and Israel just wants to survive. Only country after Pakistan may be Afghanistan because they want KPK and Balochistan.

 

[Vitamin_C]

I am aware of that and I am not disputing it. Almost every embassy in the world is a spying tool against another country this is nothing new.

Every embassy in istanbul is bugged bythe Turks and the Russians in Moscow.

USA is not in Afghanistan because of Pakistan. Afghanistan is a place of geostrategic importance to western powers long before Pakistan was created.

USA and many other countries are keeping an eye on Pakistan due to its proximity to middle east, its support if taliban, and to keep a check on its nuclear stockpiles. Its not there to destroy Pakistan as conspiracy theoriests are claiming. If they wanted to destroy Pakistan they could have done it long time ago. Just one aircraft carrier has more firepower than entire PAF.

Israel is not a threat to Pakistan. They are allied to Saudi, Egypt, Jordan and UAE. They are desperate to make friends with Pakistan as well. Only thing Israel wants is a right to exist. Pakistan can try to negotiate with them for Palestinian rights and Palestinian State in West Bank & Gaza.

As for India, they are not as intellegent or reasonable as Israelis or Americans. For this Pakistan needs to work on its economy for 15-20 years, put political pressure on them and maybe beat them in a battle or two. Permanant solution of india would be break it into smaller manageable nation states.

Your may very well have sources but enemy agencies "infect" only certain people in high up places to avoid being detected . Thats how its done.

Ajit doval the indian national security adviser has himself admitted this in an interview etc.

If the USA has no interest in us what is it doing in afghanistan ? After spending a trillion dollars what did it achieve ?

You seen the size of the US embassy in Islamabad ?...I dont know which world you live in. Do you remember Raymond Davis ?

You know nothing my friend. Im glad you have knowledge of whatever your exposure is, but their is more to the truth than what is apparent to you.

 

[Beef.Bhaijan]

I am aware of that and I am not disputing it. Almost every embassy in the world is a spying tool against another country this is nothing new.

Every embassy in istanbul is bugged bythe Turks and the Russians in Moscow.

USA is not in Afghanistan because of Pakistan. Afghanistan is a place of geostrategic importance to western powers long before Pakistan was created.

USA and many other countries are keeping an eye on Pakistan due to its proximity to middle east, its support if taliban, and to keep a check on its nuclear stockpiles. Its not there to destroy Pakistan as conspiracy theoriests are claiming. If they wanted to destroy Pakistan they could have done it long time ago. Just one aircraft carrier has more firepower than entire PAF.

Israel is not a threat to Pakistan. They are allied to Saudi, Egypt, Jordan and UAE. They are desperate to make friends with Pakistan as well. Only thing Israel wants is a right to exist. Pakistan can try to negotiate with them for Palestinian rights and Palestinian State in West Bank & Gaza.

As for India, they are not as intellegent or reasonable as Israelis or Americans. For this Pakistan needs to work on its economy for 15-20 years, put political pressure on them and maybe beat them in a battle or two. Permanant solution of india would be break it into smaller manageable nation states.

 

[Beef.Bhaijan]

Afghanistan is a place of geostrategic importance for what ?. You just answered your own question.

Naturally because it has a growing economy like China nearby, its also a good location to keep russia out of the warm waters of the arabian sea and the only nuclear muslim power Pakistan.

and Pakistan and china combined could challenge any adversary. Thats the real game.

Pakistan does not support any Taliban. Infact its even ludricous to suggest that. The US has been in afghanistan for 15 years now. They control every aspect of afghanistan , the airports, seaports etc.

They have all the power in the world including that frigate thats supposedly enough for all of PAF so then what chance do the so called Talbans have ?

They are in afghanistan, the talibans are there too , then why blame Pakistan ??. That tells me the game is to stay in afghanistan and work on Pakistan !

PLain and simple.

Now for israel, Pakistan is the only pawn that provides a counter nuclear cover to the entire middle east which is why its strategically important to keep it in check.

Like i said, everyone knows what game is being played. No one is naive !

 

[Vitamin_C]

Its a place of Geostrategic importance because its in the middle if 3 empires, India, China and Russia and its the location from which Russian empires in the past have tried to gain access to the arabian sea, since Russia does not have an all weather port.
The British took control of this area in the early 1800s then the Russian empire in late 1800s. The Russians came back in 1979 amd now its the Americans. This has nothing to do with Pakistan. If US wanted to take Pakistan then they can easily do it with their military. Read the book called great game to get a better understanding of geostrategic importance of Afghanistan. Many coties in the region like Abbotabad are named after western fogures who faught in this game for Afghanistan. Also Pakistan does support Afghan taliban. Afghan taliban is not declared terrorist organization even by US.

Afghanistan is a place of geostrategic importance for what ?. You just answered your own question.

Naturally because it has a growing economy like China nearby, its also a good location to keep russia out of the warm waters of the arabian sea and the only nuclear muslim power Pakistan.

and Pakistan and china combined could challenge any adversary. Thats the real game.

Pakistan does not support any Taliban. Infact its even ludricous to suggest that. The US has been in afghanistan for 15 years now. They control every aspect of afghanistan , the airports, seaports etc.

They have all the power in the world including that frigate thats supposedly enough for all of PAF so then what chance do the so called Talbans have ?

They are in afghanistan, the talibans are there too , then why blame Pakistan ??. That tells me the game is to stay in afghanistan and work on Pakistan !

PLain and simple.

Now for israel, Pakistan is the only pawn that provides a counter nuclear cover to the entire middle east which is why its strategically important to keep it in check.

Like i said, everyone knows what game is being played. No one is naive !