NOVA documentary on Human Evolution

[Vitamin_C]

Go search on google for evolutionary biologist. Every biologist has to be on the same page on evolution because every field of biology confirms evolution and evolution in turn cross confirms with every field of biology. You have been living in your religious fairy tales and the truth is just hard for you to swallow. Its your choice whether to accept or your just close your eyes and ears and pretend it does not exist. Atleast you are honest about it that you chose to be ignorant because you are not interested in the truth but want to believe in your fairy tales. Fair enough its your right to believe what ever you want to believe.

The evidence is there, go to the natural science museum if you want to see it, if you cant go there there are videos on youtube that have filmed it, the only problem is your close mindedness, no matter how much evidence you are given you will not accept it. Brainwashing since childhood is like a mental disorder. As for transitionary species the size of the brain in hominids can give a rough estimation of brain capacity and it can be measured in numbers check every human ancester the older one will have a lower number than the latter one. Also you can measure individual bones of the species tell me one species that has the same bones as human for fingers, toes, thighs, fore arms and skull, that was a ridiculous claim from you that many fossil can many fossil resembles humans show me an example of animal whose bones resemble human closer than homo erectus or neanderthal man.

You mentioned that you are interested more in what will happen to you after your death. How can you know what will happen to you after your death. Lets forget everything and focus on one topic, I am just interested in how your brain works. How can you know what will happen to you after you are dead without Chemistry and Biology and the problem is you do not believe in chemistry and biology because they both cross confirm with evolution therefore if biology and chemistry are right then evolution also has to be right. Let me know how you can know what will happen to you after you are dead.

You can't provide me the names and asking me the names?

I can also tell you that to hell with those who support it or not? Simple. It is your problem and headache that how human was created not my?

Evaluation is just rubbish idea with no scientific proof and waste of time.

 

[Vitamin_C]

I will answer all your questions and explain how your are misunderstanding evolution after you answer this question...:
If Americans came from Europeans how come there are still Europeans in existance?

Evolution is just a theory.It has not been proved.Your are confusing adaptation with evolution.If man evolved from apes then why are the apes still in existense.Secondly can you show the intermediate stages of evolution? There must be creatures which are half human and half apes eg head and face is 100% identical to humans but the rest of the body is of an ape.DNA doesn't prove anything.

 

[Aslan]

I will answer all your questions and explain how your are misunderstanding evolution after you answer this question...:
If Americans came from Europeans how come there are still Europeans in existance?

Americans are settlers from Europe.The Americans did not descend from apes.People have been migrating since ancient times.They remained as people.Can you find a creature which is alive today and is half man and half ape ?Surely evolution has not stopped so we should see alI sorts of creatures which are half birds half fish etc.

 

[Bret Hawk]

Your list is irrelevant to today as it is few hundred years old. Quote me any modern scientist who does not believe in theory of evolution due to scientific reasons and not due to faith, because faith is by definition irrational.

Faith is not irrational my friend, make this correction as someone has really misguided you on this front.

On the other hand evolution theory / fact do look plausible to many biologists in modern age and to be honest being a firm believer of God I have no problem with this.

My problem starts with atheists when they promote their misleading agenda in this subtle concept and try to remove the providence of God at that critical juncture when Homosapien specie got to the stage of perfection.

This possible interjection might have been bestowing the Soul of Adam into that perfected model of Homo Sepian prototype and through him the Human race as we know it now gets its progression.

Some of the Muslim scholars of the past have also alluded towards this aspect of Human evolution like Al-Jahiz (d. 869 CE), Ibn Miskawahy (d. 1030 CE), Maulana Jalaluddin M. Rumi (d. 1273 CE) and Ibn Khaldun (d. 1406 CE) in their treatises.

Problem arises when Darwin and his ilk's atheistic musings add to this fascinating tale of Human creation and no doubt it has to be rejected vehemently as it is not based on concrete facts but on mere conjectures and whims in order to fulfill certain malicious agenda.

 

[دوسرا_سوال]

I will answer all your questions and explain how your are misunderstanding evolution after you answer this question...:
If Americans came from Europeans how come there are still Europeans in existance?

Best answer ever. Well done.

 

[Vitamin_C]

If american are settlers from Europe... How come there are still Europeans in Europe?
Humans are still classified as Apes, check the definition of Ape. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae

Why there are still apes?
Evolution says that some animals evolve faster than other animals. Some animals may see a spurt of change and then change very little.
If you are assuming that Humans evolved from Chimps and Gorillas, then thats wrong. Humans Chimps Gorillas evolved alongside each other from a common ancestor who lived around 7 million years ago and was neither a Chimp, Gorilla or Human. Gorillas are Alpha and they evolved to be strong, you cannot match them in strength as a human, where as humans evolved to be more smarter, we made a trade off. Some animals evolve slowly such as fish, crocodiles, Chimps evolved less than humans etc because they are well adapted to the environment they live in and do not need to change, where as other animals such as cheetah and Giselle have to constantly evolve to out compete each other.

Where there is no crockoduck?
Its a common misconception people have that are new to evolution. That animals suddenly evolve from one species to another for example crocodile suddenly evolving its head to that of a duck etc.... This is not how evolution works, evolution works over a very long time, thousands of generations and millions of years, the small mutations happen gradually, a crocodiles head does not suddenly get replaced with that of a duck whilst keeping the rest of the body. One of the condition of evolution is that the parents of the species must be the same species as the offspring, for example the offspring of a crocodile must be a crocodile as well. It works so slow that its impossible to see in a few generations. Think of a clock if its 1pm right now, it does not suddenly become 9 pm, the seconds will go by then minutes then hours. Evolution works similarly. If you take a picture of yourself your father your grandfather and all of your previous 10,000 generations. Your picture will be very similar to that of your father or your grandfather, but if you look at the picture of your great great great...........great grandfather from 100,000 generations prior it might not only be a very different face but it might actually be a different species.

Evolution is just a theory?
In science there is no such thing as 'just a theory', theory is the highest thing in science even higher than fact. Also a theory does not 'graduate' to a fact as the two are completely different things. A scientific theory is something that explains a well established fact. Fact is useless without an explanation therefore theories are more important. For example it is a scientific fact that life forms have been evolving on earth, and the theory of evolution by natural selection 'explains' how life forms evolved. Theories are as good as facts because they are tested numerous times and they make predictions and the predictions are always correct thats why they are useful in science. With this theory you can predict that you can never find the fossil of a Ape on the same layer of rock as the fossil of a T-rex. Which means it can be proven or disproven. But this theory has been proven over and over again it always comes right on its predictions, to disprove it all you need to do is find the fossil of a rabbit on the same layer as fossil of a dinosaur and you will win a nobel prize and never have to work for the rest of your life.
I recommend you to research on the definition of scientific theory, fact and law. What they mean and how they are important. Do not go to creationist or religious sites for definition on scientific terms.

Americans are settlers from Europe.The Americans did not descend from apes.People have been migrating since ancient times.They remained as people.Can you find a creature which is alive today and is half man and half ape ?Surely evolution has not stopped so we should see alI sorts of creatures which are half birds half fish etc.

 

[دوسرا_سوال]

Americans are settlers from Europe.The Americans did not descend from apes.People have been migrating since ancient times.They remained as people.Can you find a creature which is alive today and is half man and half ape ?Surely evolution has not stopped so we should see alI sorts of creatures which are half birds half fish etc.

The process of evolution by means of natural selection happens VERY VERY slowly over millions of years.

Therefore, if you are unable to spot a banana evolving into a monkey in the 16 years of your fragile teenage life, then that's your unrealistic expectation.

I suggest you keep praying five times a day (if you are even praying at all) and leave the scientific matters to the rest of the world.

 

[Vitamin_C]

Ok first of lets do away with your first claim that faith is not irrational so that we can get to the real stuff.
Rationality is when a person only believes something if there is a reasonable proof/evidence to believe it.
Definition of Faith from Google: strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
A rational person cannot believe in anything without proof or evidence. If you claim to me that you are a messenger of God, I am sorry I need proof otherwise I am not buying. There is no proof for religion there fore it requires faith to believe in it therefore faith cannot be defined by rationality.


When you say that there is no support for human evolution then my question to you is this:
Who are Homo Erectus, and who are Neanderthal man? If they are not related to us why is our DNA is similar to them? Why does DNA evidence show that we have same paternal DNA as Homo Erectus but not as Neanderthal man? Do you know how accurate DNA evidence is? Its enough to convict criminals in murder case.
How come the farther back we shared a common ancestor with someone, the less similar our DNA is?(We share over 95% of our DNA with chimps but much less with crocodiles why? then even less than that with fish and even less with banana[70%]) Why does it seem that all the older fossil remains of man found are primitive versions of us, why all the older fossils of humans have significantly smaller brain size than modern humans? but larger than chimps? Who were those people?

Faith is not irrational my friend, make this correction as someone has really misguided you on this front.

On the other hand evolution theory / fact do look plausible to many biologists in modern age and to be honest being a firm believer of God I have no problem with this.

My problem starts with atheists when they promote their misleading agenda in this subtle concept and try to remove the providence of God at that critical juncture when Homosapien specie got to the stage of perfection.

This possible interjection might have been bestowing the ‘Soul’ of Adam into that perfected model of Homo Sepian prototype and through him the Human race as we know it now gets its progression.

Some of the Muslim scholars of the past have also alluded towards this aspect of Human evolution like Al-Jahiz (d. 869 CE), Ibn Miskawahy (d. 1030 CE), Maulana Jalaluddin M. Rumi (d. 1273 CE) and Ibn Khaldun (d. 1406 CE) in their treatises.

Problem arises when Darwin and his ilk's atheistic musings add to this fascinating tale of Human creation and no doubt it has to be rejected vehemently as it is not based on concrete facts but on mere conjectures and whims in order to fulfill certain malicious agenda.

 

[Tyrion Lannister]

Tum aur @Punjabimunda upnay demaghu ka ilaaj karo yara takay tum donu hamay 'Bandar' kay bachchay banana chor du.

Aur upnay Rohani Bap Darwin ki Murti bana kay uss kay saamnay sajday kia karu.

Aur han uss din upny birthday b manaaya karu jis din tum dono 'Bandaru' say 'Insaan' banay thay aur forum kay saathio ku bulana na bhoolay.

agae jahil molvi
khan likha hai k Adam k khad o khal kese the? Evolution is a reality, religion ka limited knowledge jahil bna deat hai

 

[Nice2MU]

agae jahil molvi
khan likha hai k Adam k khad o khal kese the? Evolution is a reality, religion ka limited knowledge jahil bna deat hai

جاہل تو تم لوگ ہو جو اپنی تھیوری کو ابھی تک قانون نہ بنا سکے اور پھر بھی اسے سچ کہتے ہو۔

ابے جاہل تمھارے پاس کیا ثبوت ہے کہ تمھارا تعلق بندروں کے خاندان سے ہیں حالانکہ تمھاری باتوں سےلگتا ہے کہ تم بندروں کے کزن ہو لیکن ثبوت نہیں ہے۔

اور کبھی تمھارے سائنسدان باپ نے ایک جانور کو دوسرے جانور میں بدلتے ہوئے دیکھا ہے؟ صرف یہ کہہ دیتے ہو کہ جی مچھلی ، مگر مچھ بن گئی لیکن کیسے اسکا کوئی جواب نہیں ہے نہ تیرے پاس اور نہ تیرے جاہل سائنسدانوں کے پاس۔

 

[Sam Sam]

No. What I am saying is that instead of blindly believing in a book written thousands of years ago, we should educate our selves and seek knowledge from other sources and use our brains. I do not want to offend you when you mention Darwin it shows how less you know. Darwin was not even the first person to come up with the idea of evolution, nor is it his version that is accepted today because we have even more evidence and information today that Darwin had so stop quoting Darwin because he is not very relevant today. Islamic Scholars over 1000 years ago wrote on evolution and natural selection, also evolutionary thought existed in Chinese, Roman and Greek Philosophers over 2000 years ago.
Also I would advise you to google/youtube the definition of the terms Law, Theory and Facts in science, I have explained it few dozen times but I do not blame you, our education system is not the best.

Also people think that its good to believe in Quran because its more simpler and they do not have to answer the difficult questions. But you are wrong, if you say evolution did not happen then it creates even more questions than you have answered. Who were Homo Habilis? Who were Homo Erectus? Who were Neanderthal Why were all those creatures transitionary species of each other? and why does DNA evidence confirm this? Why does every other species on this Earth is a transitionary species from an older form of the species? (Every each fossil that has been found is a transitionary species from one species to another) Why? There can be only 2 reason.
1) Either your holy book is wrong/your interpretation of the holy Book is wrong.
2) God is using very underhanded and unfair tactics to plant evidence everywhere to show that evolution occurred so that we believe it and go to hell.

That's amazing mate. Good piece of writing. Keep it up.

 

[Nice2MU]

Go search on google for evolutionary biologist. Every biologist has to be on the same page on evolution because every field of biology confirms evolution and evolution in turn cross confirms with every field of biology.

اب جب ثبوت کا موقع آیا تو مجھ سے پوچھ رہے ہو کہ میں سرچ کروں۔ بھئی تم نے دعویٰ کیا ہے اور ثبوت بھی تم مہیا کرو۔ ویسے سوائے فوسلز کے تم لوگو ں کے پاس ہے کیا؟ کوئی کچھ بھی کہہ سکتا ہے جس طرح تم کہہ رہو ہے۔ ویسے بائیولوجی کا مطلب ہے زندہ چیزوں کاعلم جب کہ تم بات کررہے ہو 'فوسلز' کی جسکا تعلق جیالوجی سے زیادہ بنتا ہے گو کہ بیالوجی والوں نے اسکے لیے پلانٹولوجی کی شاخ بنا لی ہے جسکی تاریخ بمشکل 25،24 سو سال ہے اور جو جانوروں کی بات کر رہے ہو وہ بقول تمھارے کئی ملین سال پرانا ہے جو کہ جیالوجی کے علم میں آتے ہیں ، بیالوجی میں نہیں۔

اسلیے بجائے بیالوجسٹ سے پوچھنے کے مجھے جیالوجسٹ سے پوچھنا چاہیے۔ اور تم بھی جیالوجسٹس سے رابطہ کرو۔

You have been living in your religious fairy tales and the truth is just hard for you to swallow. Its your choice whether to accept or your just close your eyes and ears and pretend it does not exist. Atleast you are honest about it that you chose to be ignorant because you are not interested in the truth but want to believe in your fairy tales. Fair enough its your right to believe what ever you want to believe.

تم ہماری کہانیوں کو فیری ٹیل کہو یا کچھ اور ہم نے تو انہی پہ یقین کرنا ہے۔ کیونکہ تم لوگوں کی باتیں بھی صرف باتیں ہیں اور صرف ایک چیز کے پیچھے ہی پڑے ہوتے ہو جی فلانہ جگہ سے ہڈی ملی اور وہ انسانی جسم سے ملتی جلتی ہے۔

ذرا مندرجہ ذیل سرخ رنگ میں لکھی ہوئی عبارت تو دیکھ جسمیں کہا جاتا ہے کہ 'ہو سکتا ہے یہ انسانوں کے فیملی سے تعلق رکھتا ہے'۔ تم لوگوں سے تو ہم اچھے ہیں جو یقین سے کہتے لیکن تم ابھی تک 'ہو سکتا' کے چکروں میں پھنسے ہوئے ہو۔

The first of our human ancestors emerged in Africa around 2.8 million years ago - 400,000 years earlier than previously thought, a newly discovered fossilised jawbone has revealed.


....The partially complete lower jaw, which was uncovered in the Afar region of Ethiopia, is thought to belong to a species that may have been the first member of the Homo family.

Reference: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...an-ancestor-discovered-earliest-relative.html

اور اگر میں اس پہ ریسرچ شروع کی تو میں اسکا سارا کچھا چٹا کھول لونگا لیکن میں اس پہ قصداً وقت ضائع نہیں کرتا میرے اور بھی بہت سے کام ہیں اور ویسے بھی اگر اسکا پتا چل بھی گیا کہ کون انسان کہا سے آیا تھا تو اسکا مجھے کیا فائدہ پہنچے گا۔ انسان جیسے بھی آیا ہے آگیا۔ بس قصّہ ختم۔

اوراگر تمھیں اسکا پتا چل بھی گیا تو تجھے کیا فائدہ۔ بجائے فائدے فضول میں ہمارا وقت ضائع کر رہے ہو۔

The evidence is there, go to the natural science museum if you want to see it, if you cant go there there are videos on youtube that have filmed it, the only problem is your close mindedness, no matter how much evidence you are given you will not accept it. Brainwashing since childhood is like a mental disorder. As for transitionary species the size of the brain in hominids can give a rough estimation of brain capacity and it can be measured in numbers check every human ancester the older one will have a lower number than the latter one. Also you can measure individual bones of the species tell me one species that has the same bones as human for fingers, toes, thighs, fore arms and skull, that was a ridiculous claim from you that many fossil can many fossil resembles humans show me an example of animal whose bones resemble human closer than homo erectus or neanderthal man.

عجائب گھروں میں تو فرعون کے مجسمے بھی پڑے ہیں۔ کیا تم ان پہ یقین کرتے ہو؟

اور میں آندھا نہیں لیکن تم نے سوائے باتوں کے کوئی ثبوت نہیں دیا اور تم یہ چاہتے ہو کہ میں تمھاری ایک ویڈیوں اور بے شمار باتوں پہ یقین کرلوں؟

یہ تم لوگوں کو کیسے پتا چلا کہ دماغ چھوٹا ہوگا وہ تو انسانوں کے اباؤاجداد ہونگے۔ وہ بندروں کے آباؤاجداد بھی ہوسکتے۔

پھر وہی بات کہ میں تمھیں بتاؤ کہ کونسے جانور کی ہڈیاں انسانوں سے ملتی ہے یا نہیں۔ بھئی یہ کام تمھارا ہے۔ کہ تم بتاؤ کہ کونسا جانور کیسے تھا اور تمام جانوروں کی تصویریں دیکھاؤ کہ کیسے وہ انسان بنے۔ وہ خالی جگہیں تم لوگوں نے مکمل کرنی ہے ہم نے نہیں کہ یہ تو ہو نہیں سکتا کہ انسانوں کے اباؤاجداد تو بول نہیں سکتے تھے لیکن انسانوں نے بولنا اور سوچنا شروع کرد یا۔ جیسے تم نے کہا کہ وہ کئی ملین سال پہلے گزر چکے ہیں۔ تو بھی ایک مفروضہ ہوا کہ چونکہ یہ کئی لاکھ سال پہلے گزرے اس لیے انکی ہڈیاں نہیں مل سکتی۔ وہ تمام کی تمام ہڈیاں تم لوگوں نے ڈھونڈنی ہے اور اگر نہیں ڈھونڈ سکتے تو ہمارا دماغ بھی نہ چاٹوں اور نہ ہمیں کہوں وہ ہم ڈھونڈے یا انٹرنیٹ پہ سرچ کرے۔

اور اپنے اُستاد ڈارون کو دیکھوں کیا کہہ رہا ہے۔

“To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I confess, absurd in the highest degree...The difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection , though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered subversive of the theory.”

― Charles Darwin

اپنے ایک اور اُستاد کو دیکھوں کیاکہتا ہے؟

Evolutionist Jeffrey Schwartz, a professor of anthropology at the University of Pittsburgh, openly admits that “the formation of a new species, by any mechanism, has never been observed۔

…..it was and still is the case that, with the exception of Dobzhansky's claim about a new species of fruit fly, the formation of a new species, by any mechanism, has never been observed

Reference: Jeffrey H. Schwartz, Sudden Origins (New York, John Wiley, 1999), p. 300


تم دھریوں کا ایک اور اُستادرچرڈ ڈانکن خود کیا اعتراف کر رہا ہے:۔

The sudden appearance of complex life in the fossil record is so undeniable that even Richard Dawkins has been forced to admit it…


“It is as though they [fossils] were just planted there, without any evolutionary history. Needless to say this appearance of sudden planting has delighted creationists. Both schools of thought (Punctuationists and Gradualists) despise so-called scientific creationists equally, and both agree that the major gaps are real, that they are true imperfections in the fossil record. The only alternative explanation of the sudden appearance of so many complex animal types in the Cambrian era is divine creation and both reject this alternative.”

Reference: The Blind Watchmaker, 1986, p. 229-230

اپنے ایک اور دل عزیز اُستاد کی باتیں سُنے وہ کیا فرمارہا ہے؟

Even evolutionist Stephen J. Gould of Harvard University has admitted that the record shows that species do not change. The following is how he put it during a lecture at Hobart & William Smith College…

“Every paleontologist knows that most species don’t change. That’s bothersome….brings terrible distress. ….They may get a little bigger or bumpier but they remain the same species and that’s not due to imperfection and gaps but stasis. And yet this remarkable stasis has generally been ignored as no data. If they don’t change, its not evolution so you don’t talk about it.” Lecture at Hobart & William Smith College, 14/2/1980.

اور تم لوگوں کا ایک اور گورا اُستاد خود کہتا کہ یہ صرف خیالی تصور ہے اور تم مجھے کہتے ہوں کہ میں اسے مان لوں۔

...Even with DNA sequence data, we have no direct access to the processes of evolution, so objective reconstruction of the vanished past can be achieved only by creative imagination.....

Reference: N. A. Takahata, "Genetic Perspective on the Origin and History of Humans," Annual Review of Ecology and Systematics (vol. 26, 1995), p. 343.

تم لوگوں کے ایک گروہ جی کیا کہتے ہیں؟۔ یہ ملاحظہ کرو۔


The revolutionist Dr. Lyall Watson says

“The fossils that decorate our family tree are so scarce that there are still more scientists than specimens. The remarkable fact is that all of the physical evidence we have for human evolution can still be placed, with room to spare, inside a single coffin!”


Reference: Lyell Watson, "The Water People," Science Digest, vol. 90 (May 1982), p. 44.

اور اس طرح میں تمھیں تم لوگوں کے اُساتذہ کی سینکڑوں باتیں دیکھا سکتا ہوں کہ تم لوگ ایک خیالی چیز کے پیچے چل رہے ہو جسکا نہ کوئی سر ہے اور نہ پیر۔

How can you know what will happen to you after your death.

تمھیں تو اب تک یہ پتا نہیں چلا کہ تم بندروں کے اباؤ اجداد سے انسان کیسےبنے اور مجھ سے پوچھ رہے ہو کہ مرنے کے بعد کیا ہوگا؟ پہلے تم اس زندگی کی باتیں تو ثابت کرو۔ تم لوگوں کی باتیں صرف تصوراتی ہیں۔ حقیقت سے انکا کوئی دور کا بھی کوئی واسطہ نہیں۔ ویسے تمھیں معلوم ہے کہ جو ہڈیوں کا تم کہہ رہے ہو کہ لاکھوں سال پرانی ہے انکی عمر کیسے معلوم کرتے ہیں؟

Lets forget everything and focus on one topic, I am just interested in how your brain works.

میرا دماغ دو علوم پہ کام کرتا ہے۔ یا وہ 100 فیصد ٹھیک سائنس ہو یا اللہ کیطرف سے وحی کی باتوں پہ ۔ یہ درمیانی خیالی باتوں میرا دماغ بالکل نہیں سوچ سکتا۔

یہ ارتقاع بھی تم لوگ کا ایک مذہب ہے لیکن اسکی بنیادیں بہت کمزور ہیں۔

How can you know what will happen to you after you are dead without Chemistry and Biology and the problem is you do not believe in chemistry and biology because they both cross confirm with evolution therefore if biology and chemistry are right then evolution also has to be right. Let me know how you can know what will happen to you after you are dead

مثلاً کونسی کمسٹری اور بیالوجی تم لوگوں کی ارتقائی عمل کو کنفرن کرتی ہے؟اپنے آپ سےتُکے لگانا چھوڑ اور سیدھا سیدھا سائنسی ثبوت دے۔

 

[Nice2MU]

How much you make your fonts bigger the truth can't be changed that Evolution is just a myth rather another religion? So chill.

That's amazing mate. Good piece of writing. Keep it up.

 

[Tyrion Lannister]

جاہل تو تم لوگ ہو جو اپنی تھیوری کو ابھی تک قانون نہ بنا سکے اور پھر بھی اسے سچ کہتے ہو۔

ابے جاہل تمھارے پاس کیا ثبوت ہے کہ تمھارا تعلق بندروں کے خاندان سے ہیں حالانکہ تمھاری باتوں سےلگتا ہے کہ تم بندروں کے کزن ہو لیکن ثبوت نہیں ہے۔

اور کبھی تمھارے سائنسدان باپ نے ایک جانور کو دوسرے جانور میں بدلتے ہوئے دیکھا ہے؟ صرف یہ کہہ دیتے ہو کہ جی مچھلی ، مگر مچھ بن گئی لیکن کیسے اسکا کوئی جواب نہیں ہے نہ تیرے پاس اور نہ تیرے جاہل سائنسدانوں کے پاس۔

hur chopo te chopde rao

 

[Vitamin_C]

I think I have already mentioned to you to research on definition of scientific theory, law and fact already on this thread. You do not understand their meanings, ill be generous and explain some again:

A scientific law is a objective knowledge that can be acurately quantified and usually uses mathematic formulas. For example 2+2 is a law. e=mc^2 is a law. S=Klog W, I believe is a law in thermodynamics.

A Scientific theory is something that explains how a fact occurs. For example its a scientific fact that life forms have been changing on earth and theory of evolution by natural selection explains how life forms have been evolving. A hypothesis becomes a theory after rigorous testing and tested repeatedly under its predictions and everytime those predictions come true. A theory often contains a number of laws and facts in it to support it. Theory is the most important thing in science, more than law or fact because facts are useless without an explanation. Its a fact that day and night happens? It doesnt tell us much until someone adds a theory that explains night and day happens because of the theory of Earths rotation.

Now when you say that scientist have not been able to turn the theory into a fact or law, it sounds like you are saying scientist have failed to turn an apple into an orange or banana. They are two different things and does not transition from one to another.

Do not know how many times I have been repeating myself but some people just do not listen or just ignore. But you seem to be someone who is not willing to do his own research and just present arguments based on lack of knowledge but I again I recommend if you want to know how we are related to Apes, search the definition of Apes on google or wikipedia, like it or not we are apes and we are classified as apes same as Gorilla and Chimps.

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جاہل تو تم لوگ ہو جو اپنی تھیوری کو ابھی تک قانون نہ بنا سکے اور پھر بھی اسے سچ کہتے ہو۔

ابے جاہل تمھارے پاس کیا ثبوت ہے کہ تمھارا تعلق بندروں کے خاندان سے ہیں حالانکہ تمھاری باتوں سےلگتا ہے کہ تم بندروں کے کزن ہو لیکن ثبوت نہیں ہے۔

اور کبھی تمھارے سائنسدان باپ نے ایک جانور کو دوسرے جانور میں بدلتے ہوئے دیکھا ہے؟ صرف یہ کہہ دیتے ہو کہ جی مچھلی ، مگر مچھ بن گئی لیکن کیسے اسکا کوئی جواب نہیں ہے نہ تیرے پاس اور نہ تیرے جاہل سائنسدانوں کے پاس۔

 

[Nice2MU]

مجھے مفروضوں اور تھیوروں کے بارے مت بتاو۔ صرف ثبوت دو کہ انسانوں اور بندروں کے اباؤاجداد ایک تھے۔ قصّہ ختم۔

تم لوگوں کے پاس سوائے چند ہڈیوں کے ہیں ہی کیا جو میں اس پہ یقین کروں؟

چلو ایک اور بات بتاؤ کیونکہ مجھے نہیں معلوم کہ ایک مچھلی کو مگر مچھ بننے میں کتنا لگاہوگا اور وہ کونسے عوام ہونگے جسکے اندر یہ ہوا ہوگا؟ اور یہ ایولوشن کا عمل رک چکاہے ابھی جاری ہے؟

I think I have already mentioned to you to research on definition of scientific theory, law and fact already on this thread. You do not understand their meanings, ill be generous and explain some again:

A scientific law is a objective knowledge that can be acurately quantified and usually uses mathematic formulas. For example 2+2 is a law. e=mc^2 is a law. S=Klog W, I believe is a law in thermodynamics.

A Scientific theory is something that explains how a fact occurs. For example its a scientific fact that life forms have been changing on earth and theory of evolution by natural selection explains how life forms have been evolving. A hypothesis becomes a theory after rigorous testing and tested repeatedly under its predictions and everytime those predictions come true. A theory often contains a number of laws and facts in it to support it. Theory is the most important thing in science, more than law or fact because facts are useless without an explanation. Its a fact that day and night happens? It doesnt tell us much until someone adds a theory that explains night and day happens because of the theory of Earths rotation.

Now when you say that scientist have not been able to turn the theory into a fact or law, it sounds like you are saying scientist have failed to turn an apple into an orange or banana. They are two different things and does not transition from one to another.

Do not know how many times I have been repeating myself but some people just do not listen or just ignore. But you seem to be someone who is not willing to do his own research and just present arguments based on lack of knowledge but I again I recommend if you want to know how we are related to Apes, search the definition of Apes on google or wikipedia, like it or not we are apes and we are classified as apes same as Gorilla and Chimps.

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[Nice2MU]

hur chopo te chopde rao

چوپنا کام تمھارا ہے جو ڈارون کے ساتھ چمٹے ہو؟
پھر کہتے ہو کہ مولوی جاہل ہیں۔ تم لوگوں کے پاس جب جواب نہ تو بک بک شروع کردیتے ہو۔

 

[Vitamin_C]

You are running from one topic to another then to another like a pig running from the farmer. Lets focus on one topic. There is no reason to discuss evolution with you, you hhave demonstrated countless times that you have no knowledge on it, nor the interest or intellegence to understand it.

Lets focus on something that you are interested in and I am genuinely curious so please enlighten us maybe we can learn something. How do you know what will happen to you after you are dead, you said you are interested in this question what is your conclusion?

 

[Vitamin_C]

You demonstrated your ignorance of the definitions of theory and law in your reply to a fellow forum member. I corrected you and gave you the definition. Instead of thanking me for my time, being ignorant that you are you decided to ignore it.
I gave you evidence for evolution, Homo Erectus is a transitionary species humans, you do not argue against my claim nor do you concieve the point you just ignore it. I told you that we share 95% DNA with Chimps and the more further back our ancestor is the less dna we share, what does this mean? You do not argue against it that it could mean something else, nor do you concede that its evolution, you just ignore it. If you do not trust me and think that I am making stuff up, you can verify it yourself, Neanderthal, Homo Erectus are real their brains are bigger than Chimps and Gorilla but small than ours, then who were they if they were not our ancester and why do they share 99% of our DNA? You did not discuss in favor of it or against it, you just ignore and say show me the evidence, the evidence is there you just chose to ignore it.
How am I suppose to talk sense with such an irrational and ignorant person?

مجھے مفروضوں اور تھیوروں کے بارے مت بتاو۔ صرف ثبوت دو کہ انسانوں اور بندروں کے اباؤاجداد ایک تھے۔ قصّہ ختم۔

تم لوگوں کے پاس سوائے چند ہڈیوں کے ہیں ہی کیا جو میں اس پہ یقین کروں؟

چلو ایک اور بات بتاؤ کیونکہ مجھے نہیں معلوم کہ ایک مچھلی کو مگر مچھ بننے میں کتنا لگاہوگا اور وہ کونسے عوام ہونگے جسکے اندر یہ ہوا ہوگا؟ اور یہ ایولوشن کا عمل رک چکاہے ابھی جاری ہے؟

 

[Sam Sam]

How much you make your fonts bigger the truth can't be changed that Evolution is just a myth rather another religion? So chill.

آپ کی اطلاع کے لیے
http://www.bbc.com/urdu/science/2015/09/150910_new_human_like_species_sh