NOVA documentary on Human Evolution

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
It's actually not the main instrument of Atheists. Evolution is not antithetical to the belief in God. If religious nuts had any brains they can argue that it's a process of creation. The whole Adam and eve fairy tale is just too much for any rational person. There is apparantly a.mountain in sri lanka where Adam landed after he was thrown out of heaven and guess what his grave is in Saudi Arabia. Lol Adam flew from Sri Lanka to Saudi on a direct flight where he passed away. What a crock of bull!

Religious people are blinded by faith especially Muslims of Pakistan, any attempt at rational discussion with them is futile.



Calling Adma and Eve fairy Tale shows where are you coming from?

If you are not believer, you can say so but we can't do it. We don't want to dig into that how human has been created, it is the job of useless people like you who should waste time on this dead issue. Human came to this world thousands of years ago and you people didn't resolve this issue till this time that how human has been created. The max you forefather Darwin came with this non-sense theory in 19th century (just 160 years ago) that you and he was actually the kids of 'Chimpanzees' and only the kids of Chimpanzees can think not the Ashraful Makhloqaat like us.

And about the Tomb of Hazrat Adam (SA), it is not 100% sure where it is but if even in Mekkah then we can say that if Allah can send him from Jannah (not situated on this earth even) or if Allah can take Prophet (PBUH) to heavens (Not even on earth) then He can take him to Saudi Arabia as well. So chill and eat something your forefather eats in pic below:

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Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Darwin is not the founder of theory of evolution and its not 160 years old. Are you trying to kill us with your ignorance?
For the third time I have mentioned Greeks mentioned evolution over 2000 years ago. Anaximander of Miletus explained it in detail in around 600 BC.

Calling Adma and Eve fairy Tale shows where are you coming from?

If you are not believer, you can say so but we can't do it. We don't want to dig into that how human has been created, it is the job of useless people like you who should waste time on this dead issue. Human came to this world thousands of years ago and you people didn't resolve this issue till this time that how human has been created. The max you forefather Darwin came with this non-sense theory in 19th century (just 160 years ago) that you and he was actually the kids of 'Chimpanzees' and only the kids of Chimpanzees can think not the Ashraful Makhloqaat like us.

And about the Tomb of Hazrat Adam (SA), it is not 100% sure where it is but if even in Mekkah then we can say that if Allah can send him from Jannah (not situated on this earth even) or if Allah can take Prophet (PBUH) to heavens (Not even on earth) then He can take him to Saudi Arabia as well. So chill and eat something your forefather eats in pic below:

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Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
So you are saying that Philosophers and Scientists are studying and teaching evolutions since last 2000 years just because its some kind of Atheist conspiracy. Thats ridiculous! where is your evidence for this claim?

Which scientist has rejected evolution? I am waiting.



Though Darwin gave his theory in 1859 but this concept was ancient but it doesn't mean that there was no atheist 2000 years. Every person who didn't like Religion, one way or the other, stuttered their anger to opt the 'Atheism'.

But I am not saying that Atheism is due to Evaluation theory. I am saying that Atheist took it as important instrument for their 'belief' to counter the religious believes.

And the following all scientists (names in bracket) were the believers of God not the Darwin's rubbish. Search more, you will find many who rejects this rubbish theory.


- Antiseptic Surgery (Joseph Lister)
- Atomic Theory (John Dalton)
- Bacteriology (Louis Pasteur)
- Calculus (Isaac Newton)
- Celestial Mechanics (Johann Kepler)
- Chemistry (Robert Boyle and Antoine Lavoisier)
- Clinical Teaching (Herman Boerhaave)
- Comparative Anatomy (Georges Cuvier)
- Computer Science (Charles Babbage)
- Dimensional Analysis (Lord Rayleigh)
- Dynamics (Isaac Newton)
- Electrodynamics (James Clerk Maxwell)
- Electromagnetics (Michael Faraday and Andre Marie Ampere)
- Electronics (Ambrose Fleming)
- Energetics (William Thompson, Lord Kelvin)
- Entomology of Living Insects (Henri Fabre)
- Field Theory (Michael Faraday)
- Fluid Mechanics (George Stokes)
- Galactic Astronomy (William Hershel)
- Gas Dynamics (Robert Boyle)
- Genetics (Gregor Mendel)
- Glacial Geology (Louis Agassiz)
- Gynecology (James Simpson)
- Hydraulics (Leonardo da Vinci)
- Hydrography (Matthew Maury)
- Hydrostatics (Blaise Pascal)
- Ichthyology (Louis Agassiz)
- Isotopic Chemistry (William Ramsay)
- Model Analysis (Lord Raleigh)
- Natural History (John Ray)
- Neuropathology (John Abercrombie)
- Non-Euclidean Geometry (Bernard Riemann)
- Oceanography (Matthew Maury)
- Optical Mineralogy (David Brewster)
- Paleontology (John Woodard)
- Pathology (Rudolph Virchow)
- Physical Astronomy (Johann Kepler)
- Physiology (Albrecht von Haller)
- Plasma physics (Michael Faraday)
- Quantum Mechanics (Max Planck)
- Reversible Thermodynamics (James Joule)
- Statistical Thermodynamics (James Clerk Maxwell)
- Stratigraphy (Nicholas Steno)
- Taxonomy (Carolus Linnaeus)
- Thermodynamics (Lord Kelvin)
- Thermokinetics (Humphry Davy)
- Vertebrate Paleontology (Georges Cuvier)

The following are notable inventions and discoveries by scientists who believe in the God and divine creation.

- Absolute temperature Scale (Lord Kelvin)
- Absorbable ligatures (Joseph Lister)
- Actuarial tables (Charles Babbage)
- Airplane (Orville and Wilbur Wright)
- Alpha and beta rays (Ernest Rutherford)
- Ampere (Andrew Marie Ampere)
- Anthrax (Robert Koch)
- Antiseptic surgery (Joseph Lister)
- Atomic weights (John Dalton)
- Bacteria and protozoa (A. Leeuwenhoek)
- Barometer (Blaise Pascal)
- Biogenesis law (Louis Pasteur)
- Bulldozer (R.G. LeTourneau)
- Bunsen burner (Michael Faraday)
- Calculating machine (Charles Babbage)
- Chloroform (James Simpson)
- Classification system (Carolus Linnaeus)
- Clinical teaching (Herman Boerhaave)
- Daltons law (John Dalton)
- Diode valve (Ambrose Fleming)
- Double stars (William Hershel)
- Electric battery (Alessandro Volta)
- Electric motor (Joseph Henry)
- Electric Wheel (R.G. LeTourneau)
- Electromagnetic Fields (Michael Faraday)
- Electrons and isotopes (J.J. Thomson)
- Ephemeris tables (Johann Kepler)
- Fermentation control (Louis Pasteur)
- Fraunhofer lines (Joseph von Fraunhofer)
- Galvanometer (Joseph Henry)
- Global Star Catalog (John Hershel)
- Hadleys principle (George Hadley)
- Inert gases (William Ramsay)
- Kaleidoscope (David Brewster)
- Kelvin (Lord Kelvin)
- Kochs postulates (Robert Koch)
- Law of gravity (Isaac Newton)
- Legionella (Carl Fliermans)
- Light microscope (Joseph Jackson Lister)
- Logarithms (John Napier)
- Magnetic Resonance Imagining (MRI) (Raymond Damadian)
- Maxwells equations (James Clerk Maxwell)
- Mechanical Reaper (Cyrus McCormick)
- Milne model (Edward Arthur Milne)
- Mine safety lamp (Humphry Davy)
- Mobile offshore oil platform - Napiers bones (John Napier)
- Nitrous acid formulation (Isaac Milner)
- Pasteurization (Louis Pasteur)
- Petroleum distillation (Benjamin Silliman)
- Rabies (Louis Pasteur)
- Radio telegraph (Guglielmo Marconi)
- Radon (Ernest Rutherford)
- Rayleigh scattering (Lord Rayleigh)
- Red blood cells shape and function (J.J. Lister)
- Reflecting telescope (Isaac Newton)
- Restriction enzymes (Werner Arber)
- Right-hand rule (John Ambrose Fleming)
- Rutherford model of the atom (Ernest Rutherford)
- Scientific method (Francis Bacon)
- Self-induction (Joseph Henry)
- Telegraph (Samuel Morse)
- Thermionic valve (Ambrose Fleming)
- Transatlantic cable (Lord Kelvin)
- Tritium (Ernest Rutherford)
- Tuberculosis (Robert Koch)
- Uranus (William Herschel)
- Vaccination and immunization (Louis Pasteur)

 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Darwin is not the founder of theory of evolution and its not 160 years old. Are you trying to kill us with your ignorance?
For the third time I have mentioned Greeks mentioned evolution over 2000 years ago. Anaximander of Miletus explained it in detail in around 600 BC.

I was giving the reference of Darwin's theory not the history of Evaluation which got more popularity than previous theories or ideas. The reasons I have mentioned in other posts.

Whenever it had started, it had just created confusion among people like you. We are very much clear.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
I don't think any scientist rejected the theory of evolution based on the scientific evidence. But there are a lot of creationists who rejected it on the basis of religion.

Now do research of their believes and date of birth. If they were the believer of God, it means they don't believe evaluation. For you people as we didn't seen the Life after death, Angels, Heavens, Hells etc so we shouldn't believe it as well. For it I will say, as you people believe in logic and practice that's why I will suggest do suicide (Practical) to know about these things. Simple!



- Antiseptic Surgery (Joseph Lister)
- Atomic Theory (John Dalton)
- Bacteriology (Louis Pasteur)
- Calculus (Isaac Newton)
- Celestial Mechanics (Johann Kepler)
- Chemistry (Robert Boyle and Antoine Lavoisier)
- Clinical Teaching (Herman Boerhaave)
- Comparative Anatomy (Georges Cuvier)
- Computer Science (Charles Babbage)
- Dimensional Analysis (Lord Rayleigh)
- Dynamics (Isaac Newton)
- Electrodynamics (James Clerk Maxwell)
- Electromagnetics (Michael Faraday and Andre Marie Ampere)
- Electronics (Ambrose Fleming)
- Energetics (William Thompson, Lord Kelvin)
- Entomology of Living Insects (Henri Fabre)
- Field Theory (Michael Faraday)
- Fluid Mechanics (George Stokes)
- Galactic Astronomy (William Hershel)
- Gas Dynamics (Robert Boyle)
- Genetics (Gregor Mendel)
- Glacial Geology (Louis Agassiz)
- Gynecology (James Simpson)
- Hydraulics (Leonardo da Vinci)
- Hydrography (Matthew Maury)
- Hydrostatics (Blaise Pascal)
- Ichthyology (Louis Agassiz)
- Isotopic Chemistry (William Ramsay)
- Model Analysis (Lord Raleigh)
- Natural History (John Ray)
- Neuropathology (John Abercrombie)
- Non-Euclidean Geometry (Bernard Riemann)
- Oceanography (Matthew Maury)
- Optical Mineralogy (David Brewster)
- Paleontology (John Woodard)
- Pathology (Rudolph Virchow)
- Physical Astronomy (Johann Kepler)
- Physiology (Albrecht von Haller)
- Plasma physics (Michael Faraday)
- Quantum Mechanics (Max Planck)
- Reversible Thermodynamics (James Joule)
- Statistical Thermodynamics (James Clerk Maxwell)
- Stratigraphy (Nicholas Steno)
- Taxonomy (Carolus Linnaeus)
- Thermodynamics (Lord Kelvin)
- Thermokinetics (Humphry Davy)
- Vertebrate Paleontology (Georges Cuvier)

The following are notable inventions and discoveries by scientists who believe in the God of the Bible and divine creation.

- Absolute temperature Scale (Lord Kelvin)
- Absorbable ligatures (Joseph Lister)
- Actuarial tables (Charles Babbage)
- Airplane (Orville and Wilbur Wright)
- Alpha and beta rays (Ernest Rutherford)
- Ampere (Andrew Marie Ampere)
- Anthrax (Robert Koch)
- Antiseptic surgery (Joseph Lister)
- Atomic weights (John Dalton)
- Bacteria and protozoa (A. Leeuwenhoek)
- Barometer (Blaise Pascal)
- Biogenesis law (Louis Pasteur)
- Bulldozer (R.G. LeTourneau)
- Bunsen burner (Michael Faraday)
- Calculating machine (Charles Babbage)
- Chloroform (James Simpson)
- Classification system (Carolus Linnaeus)
- Clinical teaching (Herman Boerhaave)
- Daltons law (John Dalton)
- Diode valve (Ambrose Fleming)
- Double stars (William Hershel)
- Electric battery (Alessandro Volta)
- Electric motor (Joseph Henry)
- Electric Wheel (R.G. LeTourneau)
- Electromagnetic Fields (Michael Faraday)
- Electrons and isotopes (J.J. Thomson)
- Ephemeris tables (Johann Kepler)
- Fermentation control (Louis Pasteur)
- Fraunhofer lines (Joseph von Fraunhofer)
- Galvanometer (Joseph Henry)
- Global Star Catalog (John Hershel)
- Hadleys principle (George Hadley)
- Inert gases (William Ramsay)
- Kaleidoscope (David Brewster)
- Kelvin (Lord Kelvin)
- Kochs postulates (Robert Koch)
- Law of gravity (Isaac Newton)
- Legionella (Carl Fliermans)
- Light microscope (Joseph Jackson Lister)
- Logarithms (John Napier)
- Magnetic Resonance Imagining (MRI) (Raymond Damadian)
- Maxwells equations (James Clerk Maxwell)
- Mechanical Reaper (Cyrus McCormick)
- Milne model (Edward Arthur Milne)
- Mine safety lamp (Humphry Davy)
- Mobile offshore oil platform - Napiers bones (John Napier)
- Nitrous acid formulation (Isaac Milner)
- Pasteurization (Louis Pasteur)
- Petroleum distillation (Benjamin Silliman)
- Rabies (Louis Pasteur)
- Radio telegraph (Guglielmo Marconi)
- Radon (Ernest Rutherford)
- Rayleigh scattering (Lord Rayleigh)
- Red blood cells shape and function (J.J. Lister)
- Reflecting telescope (Isaac Newton)
- Restriction enzymes (Werner Arber)
- Right-hand rule (John Ambrose Fleming)
- Rutherford model of the atom (Ernest Rutherford)
- Scientific method (Francis Bacon)
- Self-induction (Joseph Henry)
- Telegraph (Samuel Morse)
- Thermionic valve (Ambrose Fleming)
- Transatlantic cable (Lord Kelvin)
- Tritium (Ernest Rutherford)
- Tuberculosis (Robert Koch)
- Uranus (William Herschel)
- Vaccination and immunization (Louis Pasteur)
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The idea that God does not exist is as nonsensical as the idea of God creating each and everything as an individual item directly. God had a purpose in mind for creating things so he planned the whole thing and initiated it therefore as time goes on things are unfolding as planned by God. Whatever systems, structures, mechanisms, processes and laws he used are observable in natural universe for mankind to find out or discover and make sense of things.

After all Allah did not create all the galaxies in the universe as individuals directly did he? He did not create solar systems and their individual member planets as individuals, did he? Even when it comes to living things he did not create them as individuals directly, did he? Each and everything we observe in the real universe has something acting as its parent or parents. Likewise in the plant kingdom we have parent plants and children plants. In animal and insect kingdoms we have parents and children and likewise humans too have parents and children.

Since universe gave birth to all the galaxies and galaxies gave birth to solar systems and our solar system gave birth to its planets including what we call the earth. The earth brought about living things so where is the problem in accepting the fact that each thing came about from something else as its parent? All living things came from same tree of life which was originally a cell in its simplest form.

The universe recycles its stuff and so does the earth. We eat living things and digest them and they become parts of our bodies and rest is rejected as refuse. As living things die new things come about and some from the same material that was used earlier by natural processes. So there is nothing wrong with people being created from whatever God has designed them to be created from. If God had decided to create monkeys and then from monkeys he created human beings then so be it there is nothing at all wrong with it. After all human beings eat all kinds of things as food including pigs, donkeys, monkeys or dogs etc etc. If a people have been eating these things and then they became muslims will their future generation have no traces of such foods from which their bodies were made? If man is top creation of Allah why his food is just animals, vegetables and fruits? Is man then not eating things lower in standard than himself? Or is food something higher in standard than man? If man can live on lower things than himself then what difference it makes for him being created from monkeys or donkeys?

People say we are children of our mother earth, think about what goes-on on the earth. We eat from it and we empty ourselves on it. We carry around our dirt inside ourselves. All animals and insects we consider dirty eat and drink from same sources as ourselves, so the idea that because Allah says we are higher category of creature how can we be created from monkeys could it be that absurd? This does not mean human beings were actually created from monkeys but just supposing if they were, it will have changed nothing at all.

It is very important for people who claim to be muslims to learn about things particularly about origin and development of human languages. This will help people understand the book of Allah properly rather than fighting over nonsense interpretations of it by ignorant and foolish mullahs and scientists or philosophers etc.


Once muslims understand the quran properly as it is supposed to be understood and they spread its proper message properly then all arguments against the quran and deen of islam will end. This is how powerful the message fo the quran is. The idea that we need some sort of magic stories to make the quran acceptable to humanity is absurd. What we need is actual knowledge about things the quran talks about to see how nicely it explains them for us to know.

This is why one must go HERE and HERE if one wants to know about the quran and deen of islam properly.
 
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ThoughtFelon

MPA (400+ posts)
Nice2MU,

Did you know that once upon a time in our lives we were nothing more than a semen living in our father's testicles? So much for an Ashraful mukhluqat lol.


Or is this a disgusting theory to you that undermines existence of God?

And also, how long ago do you think Adam was sent to earth?
BTW, we are not descendents of chimps but rather chimps and humans have a common ancestor who doesn't exist anymore. There are numerous fossils that belong that common ancestor.
 
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Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Your list is irrelevant to today as it is few hundred years old. Quote me any modern scientist who does not believe in theory of evolution due to scientific reasons and not due to faith, because faith is by definition irrational.

Now do research of their believes and date of birth. If they were the believer of God, it means they don't believe evaluation. For you people as we didn't seen the Life after death, Angels, Heavens, Hells etc so we shouldn't believe it as well. For it I will say, as you people believe in logic and practice that's why I will suggest do suicide (Practical) to know about these things. Simple!
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why are you stuck on Darwins theory, if you want an old theory why not move it back to ancient Chinese? Why are you so fond of Darwin, today we know so much more information that he had no access to. His theory is outdated because of the additional evidence and scientific discoveries for example DNA in favour of evolution that evolution is no longer a theory it is a fact. Bro where have you been sleeping for last 160 years.

I was giving the reference of Darwin's theory not the history of Evaluation which got more popularity than previous theories or ideas. The reasons I have mentioned in other posts.

Whenever it had started, it had just created confusion among people like you. We are very much clear.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Why are you stuck on Darwins theory, if you want an old theory why not move it back to ancient Chinese? Why are you so fond of Darwin, today we know so much more information that he had no access to. His theory is outdated because of the additional evidence and scientific discoveries for example DNA in favour of evolution that evolution is no longer a theory it is a fact. Bro where have you been sleeping for last 160 years.

Mr whether you move back to ancient Chines era or move forward to 2100 or more, the facts would remain the same. If the DNA has shown any such information that Man is the kids or cousins of abs then show here instead of giving philosophical answers.

And who says that it is fact, give your findings here.

Darwin Theory is focused because it is propagated more. But the net shell is that it is 100% rubbish.

For the sake of argument if I agree to evaluation theory then I need the answer of the following simple questions:

1) If the human has been evolved from abs or chimpanzees then there must be many animals/ species between these two species because human brain is far more developed than the brain of any animal. Chimpanzee's brain is far behind in every aspect from man. It can't even speak. So there must be many transitional animals between these two species. Which are they?

2) If any human is like human, at-least it would speak or think like human. Can you give me any name of such animals or species even in the past which could speak or think like (or nearly like) human? And if so, what were their achievement like human today?
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Your list is irrelevant to today as it is few hundred years old. Quote me any modern scientist who does not believe in theory of evolution due to scientific reasons and not due to faith, because faith is by definition irrational.


Khud be kuch koshis lar leeya kar.

I have given this list because these people were just before or in the era of your Darwin..

BTW you believe the 2000 (or 160 years old) theory but don't believe on the sayings of the old scientists.

You give me new scientists who support evolution, then I will also give the list of modern scientists who don't support it.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
Nice2MU,

Did you know that once upon a time in our lives we were nothing more than a semen living in our father's testicles? So much for an Ashraful mukhluqat lol.


Or is this a disgusting theory to you that undermines existence of God?

And also, how long ago do you think Adam was sent to earth?
BTW, we are not descendents of chimps but rather chimps and humans have a common ancestor who doesn't exist anymore. There are numerous fossils that belong that common ancestor.

Ziada Philosophy mat jaaro, give proof that Chimps and humans have common ancestor. Who were the common ancestors?

BTW very strange that one cousin is completely dumb, can't even think and speak and the other cousin had reached to Moon and Mars with his inventions. Human brain is much more developed than any one on this world. If I agree with you, then there must be some other species who could think or do work like human do today. Only then this evolution will be completed. Till today (or even in ancient era), there had been no species passed in the world, which could be called like human being.

And human is called Ashraful Makhlooqat because it descended from Heaven not from the semen and if Allah wants, it could do it again and again but He didn't because there would be nothing left for believers and non-believers like you to believe on.
 

Sphere Manisfest

Senator (1k+ posts)
What do you find so offensive about learning about our history. Its actually very interesting.



By that statement it is clear you do not understand Evolution at all. In that case you are welcome this video is for advancement in your knowledge.

Dear Vitamin C
This documentary of PBS "Becoming Human - Birth of Humanity" is interesting, however a little old. I just checked, it was made in 2010. New findings on evolution are continuously taking place. Just today, bones of Homo Naledi have been found in South Africa, which will redefine many things. Scientists are doing a marvelous job in decoding our past.

On the other hand, thanks for sharing, however still I do not see any point debating with people who love to discuss and debate what they don't know. It is kind of an insanity but this is the way majority lives.

Even, Quran, which they love to quote and base, says "We have created everything from water". Water, in this case is a common ancestor of everything, making every living being cousins. Yet they love to ask for missing links and more evidence and this and that. Evolution proves man is not derived from monkey, both of them had a common ancestor. But, the less learned, still love to quote, based on their mass ignorance, "bandar ki aulad" etc etc. Got my point?

Anyways, Darwin had a great role in initiating this interesting subject, majority of biology and medicine today (which all the less learned also get cured from without objection) stands on it, but sometimes I am sympathetic towards gear Alfred Russel Wallace who probably had a bigger, more field oriented, yet lesser discussed role in the subject of evolution.
 

Sphere Manisfest

Senator (1k+ posts)
The whole Adam and eve fairy tale

Dear Felon
There are some great discoveries by archaeologists Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman summed up in their book and documentary "The Bible Unearthed". While working more than 10 years on sites and ruins, in quest to prove Bible right, they found whole Judaism and Nation of Israel story is a myth. With unshakable proves in hand, they had to admit, all the stories of Bible, from creation to patriarchs were written down by unknown jews while in captivity in Babylon circa in 7th century BC. Age of Adam is though supposedly 1800 BC old, but there is no trace of it and other traditions mentioned in first 5 books of Old Testaments. Even Exodus is proved wrong with wonderful evidences. Worth watching and reading!
Is it a coincidence that Cosmic Physics, Evolutionary Biology and Archaeology all point in the same direction?
But...
these subjects require some brain and neutral analysis in detail, which not many people around are blessed with :)
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
1. We did not evolve from Champanzee and We did not evolve from Apes we are apes....
Do you know that this is very disrespectful? I am not saying this to mock you but it seems you do not know a thing about evolution, its more respectful that if you want to have a debate atleast do a little bit of research to get an idea about the topic. We are all ignorant of something, I am ignorant of baseball, it seems you are ignorant of evolution the best thing is to do some honest research on your own.
Back to the topic: Chimps and us had a common ancester who lived a few million years ago in Africa. There are dozens of transitionary species found in Africa and we call tell acurately with DNA which one is our direct ancester which is just a different branch. Just like scientists confirmed that we are not decended from Neanderthal man and that they were a different branch of man than us. Some of the transitionary species include Homo Erectus (you would know had you bothered to watch the documentary I posted), Homo Habilis etc. Each species has a bigger brain than the previous one and has more human like features than the previous one. Again its your job to do some research on it its not hard to find.

2. Homo Erectus could speak, they were very similar to modern humans, they had advance technology demonstrated by the fact that they had complicated techniques to make stone tools, knives, spears and hammers, more sophisticated than those made by previous homonids.
Neanderthal man that decended from Homo Erectus just like us, were so similar to us that they could interbreed and some portion of European DNA has Neanderthal DNA. They looked almost the same as us, they were very intellegent and creative as us and we can see many cave paintings in France which shows their creativity was almost at the same level as us and they made similary sophisticated tools as Archaeic Homo-Sapiens that coexisted with them at the same time.


Mr whether you move back to ancient Chines era or move forward to 2100 or more, the facts would remain the same. If the DNA has shown any such information that Man is the kids or cousins of abs then show here instead of giving philosophical answers.

And who says that it is fact, give your findings here.

Darwin Theory is focused because it is propagated more. But the net shell is that it is 100% rubbish.

For the sake of argument if I agree to evaluation theory then I need the answer of the following simple questions:

1) If the human has been evolved from abs or chimpanzees then there must be many animals/ species between these two species because human brain is far more developed than the brain of any animal. Chimpanzee's brain is far behind in every aspect from man. It can't even speak. So there must be many transitional animals between these two species. Which are they?

2) If any human is like human, at-least it would speak or think like human. Can you give me any name of such animals or species even in the past which could speak or think like (or nearly like) human? And if so, what were their achievement like human today?
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I do not care who support evolution or not. What I care is why they support it or not. Can you find me a single scientist who is not a religious nut or a creationist loon that does not support Evolution based on Science? There is none because it is a scientific fact that life forms have been evolving on earth you do not need to be very smart to see that as every each fossil that you see in the natural science museum will be a transitionary fossil between 2 species. They only persons who cannot see it are those blinded by irrational creationism.


Khud be kuch koshis lar leeya kar.

I have given this list because these people were just before or in the era of your Darwin..

BTW you believe the 2000 (or 160 years old) theory but don't believe on the sayings of the old scientists.

You give me new scientists who support evolution, then I will also give the list of modern scientists who don't support it.
 

Sphere Manisfest

Senator (1k+ posts)
I do not care who support evolution or not. What I care is why they support it or not. Can you find me a single scientist who is not a religious nut or a creationist loon that does not support Evolution based on Science? There is none because it is a scientific fact that life forms have been evolving on earth you do not need to be very smart to see that as every each fossil that you see in the natural science museum will be a transitionary fossil between 2 species. They only persons who cannot see it are those blinded by irrational creationism.

Dawkins explains this behavior very well by example of a crime scene. There is no video, there are no eye-witnesses, there is no physical evidence, but investigators build up logical evidence, piece by piece, from unorganized stuff, like finger prints, forensics, DNA testing (where applicable), then reach a meaningful conclusion, undeniable in court. Evolution is proved similarly, but some of my friends insist on CCTV :)
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
1. We did not evolve from Champanzee and We did not evolve from Apes we are apes....
Do you know that this is very disrespectful? I am not saying this to mock you but it seems you do not know a thing about evolution, its more respectful that if you want to have a debate atleast do a little bit of research to get an idea about the topic. We are all ignorant of something, I am ignorant of baseball, it seems you are ignorant of evolution the best thing is to do some honest research on your own.

Thanks Mr the cousin of Chimpanzee. Is that right now? Instead of wasting my time on this research that how human was created, why shouldn't do research what will happen to me after death?

Back to the topic: Chimps and us had a common ancester who lived a few million years ago in Africa. There are dozens of transitionary species found in Africa and we call tell acurately with DNA which one is our direct ancester which is just a different branch. Just like scientists confirmed that we are not decended from Neanderthal man and that they were a different branch of man than us. Some of the transitionary species include Homo Erectus (you would know had you bothered to watch the documentary I posted), Homo Habilis etc. Each species has a bigger brain than the previous one and has more human like features than the previous one. Again its your job to do some research on it its not hard to find.

O man, again same rhetoric. I am asking that give the proof not the statements. Whether DNA or from fossils. BTW almost many fossils can resemblance human body.

I don't need to watch the documentaries because that would be telling me the same things which you want to convey but my question is that show me any proof that the ancestor of human was just like similar to today's human who could talk or think like kids even if not more than that. Simple.....



2. Homo Erectus could speak, they were very similar to modern humans, they had advance technology demonstrated by the fact that they had complicated techniques to make stone tools, knives, spears and hammers, more sophisticated than those made by previous homonids.

All your statement is based on 'were, could etc. etc.' O man, give a single proof that they could speak or they had used the advance technology not just a statement from any evolutionist .

Neanderthal man that decended from Homo Erectus just like us, were so similar to us that they could interbreed and some portion of European DNA has Neanderthal DNA. They looked almost the same as us, they were very intellegent and creative as us and we can see many cave paintings in France which shows their creativity was almost at the same level as us and they made similary sophisticated tools as Archaeic Homo-Sapiens that coexisted with them at the same time.

Again the same they could, they were.............. man, how can I accept it? It is not the history novel. There must be some 'scientific evidences' for it. Plus also give the evidence that today's human was also present there.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
I do not care who support evolution or not. What I care is why they support it or not. Can you find me a single scientist who is not a religious nut or a creationist loon that does not support Evolution based on Science? There is none because it is a scientific fact that life forms have been evolving on earth you do not need to be very smart to see that as every each fossil that you see in the natural science museum will be a transitionary fossil between 2 species. They only persons who cannot see it are those blinded by irrational creationism.


You can't provide me the names and asking me the names?

I can also tell you that to hell with those who support it or not? Simple. It is your problem and headache that how human was created not my?

Evaluation is just rubbish idea with no scientific proof and waste of time.
 

Aslan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why are you stuck on Darwins theory, if you want an old theory why not move it back to ancient Chinese? Why are you so fond of Darwin, today we know so much more information that he had no access to. His theory is outdated because of the additional evidence and scientific discoveries for example DNA in favour of evolution that evolution is no longer a theory it is a fact. Bro where have you been sleeping for last 160 years.
Evolution is just a theory.It has not been proved.Your are confusing adaptation with evolution.If man evolved from apes then why are the apes still in existense.Secondly can you show the intermediate stages of evolution? There must be creatures which are half human and half apes eg head and face is 100% identical to humans but the rest of the body is of an ape.DNA doesn't prove anything.
 

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