No one can dare to Ban Holy Bible in Pakistan. Nazir Bhatti

[sam123]

http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/headlinenewsd.php?hnewsid=2852

Karachi: June 3, 2011. (PCP) The Central Council of Pakistan Christian Congress PCC have strongly condemned statement of Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (Samiul Haq) leader Maulana Abdul Rauf Farooqi,s call to Supreme Court of Pakistan to ban Holy Bible in Pakistan.

The PCC Central Executive Council Secretariat issued here response of Pakistan Christian Congress PCC Chief Dr. Nazir S Bhatti to JUI (S) leader’s desecrating remarks about Holy Bible.

Dr. Bhatti said that Holy Bible is only True scripture to lead humankind to eternal life and there are no doubts about Health of Holy Bible which an illiterate Muslim cleric have alleged in his press conference in Lahore.

Dr. Bhatti clarified “ The Christianity is only religion on globe that have spiritual, scientific and historical evidence to prove Health of Holy Bible unless Islamic World have only copy of Holy Quran preserved in Tashkent Museum written in Kofi language in 300 years according to Hijra Calendar”

“ It is Islamic History which calls Caliph Omar as “Mujtaba-ul-Quran” mean a Title for Hazrat Omar on “Compiling Holy Quran” The Islamic History goes on to state that during rule of Caliph Omar, different Muslim Tribes were reciting different editions of Holy Quran, therefore Caliph Omar ordered every Tribe to assemble in with their versions of Holy Quran. The Islamic History further reads that Caliph Omar collected copies of Holy Quran from every Tribe and burnt them. Then Caliph Omar called who were experts in recitation of Holy Quran and ordered them to recite Verse by Verse. When one Verse was seconded by other Quran reciter, It was written and likewise Hazrat Omar compiled Holy Quran but Islamic World is unable to present that copy to the world even” said Nazir Bhatti, presenting Islamic history.

Dr. Bhatti said that JUI (S) have Islamic Madrassa in Akhora Khatak which have produce Taliban not Islamic Scholars because this leading Akhora Khatak school in former NWFP province have never thought their students science and technology that JUI (S) Moulana Farooqi have known that manuscripts of Holy Bible are preserved in many Museums and Scholars have translated it in different languages.

If JUI(S) leader files an appeal in Supreme Court of Pakistan it will be dismissed in preliminary hearing because Judges have studied in 20th century education model not in Akhora Khatak Maddrassa.

Nazir Bhatti said “The Islamists elements have been desecrating Holy Bible and Burning Holy Bibles during their attacks on Churches in Pakistan as illiterate Maulana Farooqi have desecrated Holy Bible in his press conference in Lahore”

Nazir Bhatti said that Pakistan Christian Congress PCC will announce its line if action if JUI(S) will file petition to ban Holy Bible in Pakistan.

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shouldn't we ban Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam for their hatred of christians and their holy book?Are they going to do next gojra ??

 

[GraanG2]

Ask him which Bible ?Old or New?

 

[sam123]

Ask him which Bible ?Old or New?

dont disrespect religious book ..

 

[GraanG2]

dont disrespect religious book ..

Dude I know that and I respect and Believe in every Religious book...Without that I Can't be a Muslim...But have u ever read a bible...I am talking about the one who they have written themselves and claim that this is from Allah SWT ...Naozu Billah...If u read the bibles which are available in the market(human written) you will find a lots of bad words for prophets PBUT....So I believe in only those religious books which were sent by Allah SWT.Peace.

 

[digitalzygot]

Sam stop this dramay baze and posting stupid and C****a posts.

 

[lllcolumbuslll]

بائیبل ،گیتا، اور گرونانک اور الطاف ھسین کے پیروکاروں کو پوری اجازت ھے کہ وہ اپنے مذھبی فرایض و عبادات آزادی کے ساتھہ ادا کریں۔ ​

 

[Truth-seeker]

Everyone has the right to practice their religion no matter where they live.

 

[gazoomartian]

http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/headlinenewsd.php?hnewsid=2852

Karachi: June 3, 2011. (PCP) The Central Council of Pakistan Christian Congress PCC have strongly condemned statement of Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (Samiul Haq) leader Maulana Abdul Rauf Farooqi,s call to Supreme Court of Pakistan to ban Holy Bible in Pakistan.

The PCC Central Executive Council Secretariat issued here response of Pakistan Christian Congress PCC Chief Dr. Nazir S Bhatti to JUI (S) leaders desecrating remarks about Holy Bible.

Dr. Bhatti said that Holy Bible is only True scripture to lead humankind to eternal life and there are no doubts about Health of Holy Bible which an illiterate Muslim cleric have alleged in his press conference in Lahore.

Dr. Bhatti clarified The Christianity is only religion on globe that have spiritual, scientific and historical evidence to prove Health of Holy Bible unless Islamic World have only copy of Holy Quran preserved in Tashkent Museum written in Kofi language in 300 years according to Hijra Calendar

It is Islamic History which calls Caliph Omar as Mujtaba-ul-Quran mean a Title for Hazrat Omar on Compiling Holy Quran The Islamic History goes on to state that during rule of Caliph Omar, different Muslim Tribes were reciting different editions of Holy Quran, therefore Caliph Omar ordered every Tribe to assemble in with their versions of Holy Quran. The Islamic History further reads that Caliph Omar collected copies of Holy Quran from every Tribe and burnt them. Then Caliph Omar called who were experts in recitation of Holy Quran and ordered them to recite Verse by Verse. When one Verse was seconded by other Quran reciter, It was written and likewise Hazrat Omar compiled Holy Quran but Islamic World is unable to present that copy to the world even said Nazir Bhatti, presenting Islamic history.

Dr. Bhatti said that JUI (S) have Islamic Madrassa in Akhora Khatak which have produce Taliban not Islamic Scholars because this leading Akhora Khatak school in former NWFP province have never thought their students science and technology that JUI (S) Moulana Farooqi have known that manuscripts of Holy Bible are preserved in many Museums and Scholars have translated it in different languages.

If JUI(S) leader files an appeal in Supreme Court of Pakistan it will be dismissed in preliminary hearing because Judges have studied in 20th century education model not in Akhora Khatak Maddrassa.

Nazir Bhatti said The Islamists elements have been desecrating Holy Bible and Burning Holy Bibles during their attacks on Churches in Pakistan as illiterate Maulana Farooqi have desecrated Holy Bible in his press conference in Lahore

Nazir Bhatti said that Pakistan Christian Congress PCC will announce its line if action if JUI(S) will file petition to ban Holy Bible in Pakistan.

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shouldn't we ban Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam for their hatred of christians and their holy book?Are they going to do next gojra ??

Did the US govt ban pastor Terrorist Jones from burning a copy of Quran(s). NOT

But we are better than Americans, we are not hypocrite, we respect other's books. If some one wants to burn a copy of US constitution, it wouldnt bother me at all because its not a divine book.


to the Moderator: I really think this thread has been created for creating fasad between Muslim and Christians Pakistanis. We have enough trash going already, dont want our Maseehi Pakistanis offended if one of us Muslims respond to this thread.

I highly recommend that you delete this thread.

 

[crankthskunk]

Brothers,

Anyone has an e-mail or other contact of Mr. Nazir Bhatti?
I have done years of research on Bible, I want to engage him and see if he can answer even a simple question on bible forget about its accuracy or historical value.

I have challenge many Christians including a Catholic Bishop just to describe and prove God from the Bible and they couldn't; not to talk how Bible is written.
I want to see how good is Mr.Bhatti?

I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of religion, he and other Christians are free to practice their faith in Pakistan, and they are free to believe what they want, and think about the Bible what they want.

But then on the other hand they are not entitle to make such statements either against the Muslims or the Holy Quran. The fact is Christians always have raised this issue that The Holy Quran was compiled by Hazarat Umer RA and Hazarat Uthman RA. No doubt the Holy Quran was organised by them. But organising it does not mean, they wrote it nauzobillah. Doesn't he understand his own comments? Recitation was due to the tribal differences, so what the two Caliph did was to took "Ajitama" consensus of the Muslims for Recitation of the Holy Quran based on "Kureshi" dialect, which is still used by the Muslims. Yes, they burn the other copies only after the Holy Quran was organised from a Copy of the Holy Quran collected by Prophet SAW and that copy was with UmulMuslimeen Hafsa RA.

The holy Quran is the same revelaed to Prophet Muhammad SAW. The work done by the rightly guided Caliphs was to make sure no misunderstanding remains for the later Muslims about the Holy Quran. Khalif H Utman RA introduced "Tajweed" according to the recitation he RA and other Companion learned from Prophet SAW. H Utman RA was a "Hafiz" of the Holy Quran and he was taught the Holy Quran by Holy Prophet SAW.

During the time of Uthman, by which time Islam had spread far and wide, differences in reading the Quran in different dialects of Arabic language became obvious. A group of companions, headed by Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman, who was then stationed in Iraq, came to Uthman and urged him to "save the Muslim ummah before they differ about the Quran". Uthman obtained the complete manuscript of the Qur'an from Hafsah, one of the wives of the Islamic prophet Muhammad who had been entrusted to keep the manuscript ever since the Qur'an was comprehensively compiled by the first Caliph, Abu Bakr. Uthman then again summoned the leading compiling authority, Zayd ibn Thabit, and some other companions to make copies of the manuscript. Zayd was put in charge of the task. The style of Arabic dialect used was that of the Quraysh tribe of which the Prophet Muhammad belonged. Hence this style was emphasized over all others.

Zayd and his assistants produced several copies of the manuscript of the Qur'an. One of each was sent to every Muslim province with the order that all other Quranic materials, whether fragmentary or complete copies, be destroyed. As such, when the standard copies were made widely available to the Muslim community everywhere, then all other material was burnt voluntarily by the Muslim community themselves. This was important in order to eliminate variations or differences in the dialect from the standard text of the Qur'an. The Caliph Uthman kept a copy for himself and returned the original manuscript to Hafsah.

Nazir Bhatti and others who level accusations against Islam are basing their accusations on lies. The Holy Quran organised by H Utman RA was from the Copy of Prophet SAW, and it was organised under the supervision of H Zayd bin Thabit, who was one of the "Katib" of the Holy Quran in the life of Prophet SAW.

The organisation took place to stop any other recitation of the Holy Quran due to to the dialect differences amongst Arab. The dialect of Prophet SAW was selected by the vary people who were taught the Holy Quran by Prophet SAW, from the Copy of the Holy Quran of Prophet Muhammad SAW.

Same can not be said about the Bible. I can teach few thing to Mr. Bhatti about the Holy Bible, Inshallah.

 

[sarbakaf]

DRAMA

EVERY ONE KNOWS that bible and tora have been read in muslim countries by minority members since the brith of islam.
no one banned it , no one will bann it .
Muslim scholars used to teach these books to christians and jews.

May be bhatti wants to open a new media frong against pakistan by propogating stuff like this...which is lies nothing but lies.


As a muslim pakistanis we respect all book and even respect geeta and guru granth .....we do not agree with their content but we have always been respectful to all of these.

 

[jahanzaibi]

Islam do not allow other religion to practice in public or preach their religion in an Islam State... they can do it in their home.
Muslims or non-muslim cannot build chruch and sales bible in Islamic State.

 

[crankthskunk]

OK Brothers,

I have found the e-mail address of Dr. Bhatti on PCC website and forwarded him an e-mail.

This e-mail could be read on my website, the short cut is;

http://antiquadiani.yuku.com/topic/392/E-mail-to-Dr-Nazir-Bhatti-of-PCC

 

[saliaz]

Everyone has the right to practice their religion no matter where they live.

Totally agree!
We should learn to respect all religions.

 

[Truepatriot]

Islam do not allow other religion to practice in public or preach their religion in an Islam State... they can do it in their home.
Muslims or non-muslim cannot build chruch and sales bible in Islamic State.

Load of rubbish!... there are many Churches in Muslim countries like Pakistan,Iraq,Syria,Turkey,Indonesia,Malaysiaand menny meny more.So I'm afraid your argment does'nt stand up. There are more "Practacing" Christain these countries then there are in europe.

 

[Truepatriot]

These Holy books the Thora(old Testiment)Angil(New testiment) have been read by Muslims also through out history.As you will know Christian are known as Ale Kitab (people of the book).You are also wrong when you say "Differant edition of the Quran" The Quran are belived to be true words of Allah(SWT).and have never been tempered with by man or changed....unlike the bible...which is why Muslims have gone away from the Bible. Everybody should be free to pratice their religion in Pakistan and everywhere in the world.

 

[mehwish_ali]

Islam do not allow other religion to practice in public or preach their religion in an Islam State... they can do it in their home.
Muslims or non-muslim cannot build chruch and sales bible in Islamic State.

یہ کون سے قرآن میں لکھا ہے کہ غیر مسلم اپنی عبادتگاہیں نہیں بنا سکتے اور اپنی کتب فروخت نہیں کر سکتے؟

افسوس کہ یہ مذہبی جنونی اپنی خود ساختہ شریعت جاری کرنے سے باز نہیں آئیں گے۔

اگر غیر مسلم اپنی مذہبی عبادتگاہیں نہیں بنا سکتے تو پھر اسی پر بس کرنے اور اتنی منافقت کی بھی کیا ضرورت ہے اور جا کر پہلے سے موجود عبادتگاہوں کو بھی ڈھا دو، بلکہ اس پر بھی کیا بس کرنا، جا کر ان غیر مسلموں کو ہی کاٹ پیٹ کر پھینک دو کہ نہ رہے گا بانس اور نہ بجے گی بانسری۔

یاد رکھئیے کہ "عبادات" معاملہ ہیں اللہ اور بندے کے درمیان، اور انکے متعلق جو شریعت کے اصول آ گئے وہ تبدیل نہیں ہو سکتے۔

مگر "معاملات" جو کہ دو انسانوں، یا حکومتی سطح، یا عالمی سطح پر ہوتے ہیں، وہ معاہدوں کے تحت چلتے ہیں۔

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[jahanzaibi]

bohat sahi kaha.. islam ye hi kehta hay kay non-muslim ko mar do...App insan kay banay hooay laws ko Allah kay laws say compare na kareen.

ya jo Islam pehla hay sari dunya may wo sirif Jihad(Qital) ki waja say hay.. aur jo aaj muslim zillat may hain wo sirif Qital choor dinnay ki waja say hain.
Qital kia hi non-muslim kay sath jata hay..

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif] Abu Bakr as the Caliph. Usamah leads expedition to Syria. Battles of Zu Qissa and Abraq. Battles of Buzakha, Zafar and Naqra. Campaigns against Bani Tamim and Musailima, the Liar.[/FONT]

Islam haq hay yani sahi deen aur saab batil hay.
Campaigns in Bahrain, Oman, Mahrah Yemen, and Hadramaut. Raids in Iraq. Battles of Kazima, Mazar, Walaja, Ulleis, Hirah, Anbar, Ein at tamr, Daumatul Jandal and Firaz.
Battles of Basra, Damascus and Ajnadin. Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph. Battles of Namaraq and Saqatia.
Battle of Bridge. Battle of Buwaib. Conquest of Damascus. Battle of Fahl.
Battle of Yermuk. Battle of Qadsiyia. Conquest of Madain.
Conquest of Syria. Fall of Jerusalem. Battle of Jalula.

..And many many more... ya saab wo hain jo Muhammad(SAW) kay baad hoy .. kia ya saab galat tha...

Agar hum Muhammad(SAW) ki zindagi aur shaba karam ki zindagi ka mutalla kareen to jo Hazrat Abu Baker , Omer ,Osman or ali (R,A) nay kia wo ye hi tha
app sahi quran lay lain to aap ko bhi maloom hoo jay ga..Islam haq hay yani sahi deen aur saab batil hay.. aur jab haq aa jay to batil mit jata hay aur batil hay hi mitanay kay lia

appnay aap ko libreal ya moderate kehnay wally muslims nahi hain.. kion kay islam ki sirif aik hi kisim hay..

یہ کون سے قرآن میں لکھا ہے کہ غیر مسلم اپنی عبادتگاہیں نہیں بنا سکتے اور اپنی کتب فروخت نہیں کر سکتے؟

افسوس کہ یہ مذہبی جنونی اپنی خود ساختہ شریعت جاری کرنے سے باز نہیں آئیں گے۔

اگر غیر مسلم اپنی مذہبی عبادتگاہیں نہیں بنا سکتے تو پھر اسی پر بس کرنے اور اتنی منافقت کی بھی کیا ضرورت ہے اور جا کر پہلے سے موجود عبادتگاہوں کو بھی ڈھا دو، بلکہ اس پر بھی کیا بس کرنا، جا کر ان غیر مسلموں کو ہی کاٹ پیٹ کر پھینک دو کہ نہ رہے گا بانس اور نہ بجے گی بانسری۔

یاد رکھئیے کہ "عبادات" معاملہ ہیں اللہ اور بندے کے درمیان، اور انکے متعلق جو شریعت کے اصول آ گئے وہ تبدیل نہیں ہو سکتے۔

مگر "معاملات" جو کہ دو انسانوں، یا حکومتی سطح، یا عالمی سطح پر ہوتے ہیں، وہ معاہدوں کے تحت چلتے ہیں۔

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[Muhammad Ikhlaq Siddiqui]

molana is out of mind !!!

 

[Muhammad Ikhlaq Siddiqui]

did the us govt ban pastor terrorist jones from burning a copy of quran(s). Not

but we are better than americans, we are not hypocrite, we respect other's books. If some one wants to burn a copy of us constitution, it wouldnt bother me at all because its not a divine book.


to the moderator: I really think this thread has been created for creating fasad between muslim and christians pakistanis. We have enough trash going already, dont want our maseehi pakistanis offended if one of us muslims respond to this thread.

I highly recommend that you delete this thread.

me too!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jahanzaibi]

isi lia to muslims ka ya haal hay.. bahi agar itna hi sahi hay chruch to makkah may bana saktay hain kia??? Nahi koi bhi muslim nahi chahay ga kion yahan pay dogla pun kion
Bahi islam kaisay support kar sakta hay us ko jis ko khatam karnay kay lia hi Allah nay Muhammad(SAW) ko behja.. Kion Islam kion agar baki bhi thik hay to???
agar thik nahi hay to kia sahi hoona chahia???? wo kaisay hoo ga???? peace say nahi.. aaj jo may aur aap muslim haain to Allah ki hidayyat aur Muhammad Bin Qasim ka
sindh may Jihad??

Mohmmad bin qasim Hindustan Cheap sex kay lia nahi aaya tha aik mazloom Mulism aurat ki awaz per tabha kar dia batil koo..

Load of rubbish!... there are many Churches in Muslim countries like Pakistan,Iraq,Syria,Turkey,Indonesia,Malaysiaand menny meny more.So I'm afraid your argment does'nt stand up. There are more "Practacing" Christain these countries then there are in europe.