Nikalo In Sab Ko Bahir..High Court ka Aik Aur Shikaar... PML-N's Another MPA Disqualified..
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Ammad Hafeez
Minister (2k+ posts)
Another PML N MPA, Yasir Raza disquailifed.
Le Ek aur giyaa...
Le Ek aur giyaa...
Ammad Hafeez
Minister (2k+ posts)
Acha hai is tarah saarey Choor Filter hojaenge ;)
Ammad Hafeez
Minister (2k+ posts)
Fake degree scandal roils Pakistani politics
ISLAMABAD: Scores of Pakistani lawmakers may lose their seats for allegedly lying about their academic credentials, a growing scandal that adds to the woes of the US-backed leadership as it struggles with Islamist militancy and a weak economy. What began as accusations against a handful of lawmakers has mushroomed into formal legal challenges against up to 160 elected officials more than 10 per cent of the country's federal and provincial legislators. Many are said to have claimed fake degrees to meet a previous requirement for holding office. The Supreme Court has ordered the Elections Commission to vet the credentials of nearly all of the some 1,100 federal and provincial lawmakers. If enough lawmakers are found ineligible, there are rumblings that a midterm election may be needed. The scandal has drawn some frustrated reactions from lawmakers besieged by an aggressive media. ''A degree is a degree! Whether fake or genuine, it's a degree! It makes no difference!'' Baluchistan province chief minister Nawab Aslam Raisani, who claims a master's in political science, shouted at a gaggle of reporters Tuesday. The controversy has its roots in a 2002 law imposed by former military ruler Pervez Musharraf that required candidates for office hold a bachelor's degree or equivalent. Musharraf supposedly wanted to improve the calibre of lawmakers, but critics said the move was more about sidelining certain opponents. It also was undemocratic, critics alleged, in a country of 180 million where only 50 per cent of adults are literate. Traditionally, feudal ties or business success count for more in politics than academic achievement. Seven other countries including Chile, Nigeria and Tajikistan have constitutional provisions specifying an educational qualification for candidacy to the lower house of the national parliament, said Pippa Norris, who teaches at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government. Pakistan's Supreme Court struck down the requirement in April 2008, but not before Musharraf allowed elections in February of that year. Analysts say many candidates apparently submitted fake degree papers to qualify for those races. Many of the potentially fake degrees appear to have been claimed from Islamic seminaries, whose degrees are considered equivalent to a bachelor's in Pakistan. Other lawmakers, however, claim to have earned bachelors, Ph.D.s or master's degrees from institutions whose existence is difficult to verify. One of the more unusual cases involved a provincial lawmaker, Rana Mubashir Iqbal. He recently resigned after accusations that he submitted a bachelor's degree from Punjab University that had been awarded to another man by the same name. Iqbal said he resigned because he was asked to by his party, the opposition Pakistan Muslim League-N, not because he had lied. The scandal appears to cut across party lines, so there may be support for quickly passing a law absolving the accused. But such a move may further tarnish the image of a political elite the majority of Pakistanis, who live in poverty, view as corrupt and indifferent to their needs. Right now, those needs include an end to rolling blackouts due to chronic electricity shortages, curbing double-digit inflation on the prices of staple foods and goods, and rolling back the tide of al-Qaeda and Taliban-led militancy that has cost numerous Pakistani lives. ''A common man can only regret having elected these cheats to the assemblies,'' bemoaned one letter writer to The News. Abid Sher Ali, the chairman of National Assembly's education committee, said that to remove the stain of scandal, even the prime minister who claims a master's in journalism has to prove his degree was legitimate. ''This is a process which will make us a great nation,'' said Ali, who boasts a master's degree in business and finance. ''Nations have to sacrifice some individuals in the process of becoming great, so we should not be scared of the situation we're facing now.'' The party that seems the most affected by the scandal is the opposition PML-N, thus dampening the appetite for a midterm election. The spokeswoman for the ruling Pakistan People's Party, Fauzia Wahab, went so far as to say Tuesday that an early vote would ''derail the democratic system.'' The ruling party chairman, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, has claimed to hold a bachelor's degree from a business school in London, but his party has been unable to produce a certificate or establish what he studied. Zardari will probably escape the latest scandal because he was elected after the degree requirement was struck down. The offending lawmakers should not be dealt with harshly because the blame really lies on the degree requirement, imposed by an unelected man who took power in a coup, said Cyril Almeida, a political columnist, referring to Musharraf. "We have to go back to the original sin," said Almeida. He argued that to really stop corruption in Pakistani politics, courts should enforce laws governing campaign finance or proper disclosure of candidates' assets. In Pakistan, a country where political comebacks are common, it will probably take way more than a kerfuffle over the veracity of degrees to keep legislators out for long, especially since the old law doesn't apply anymore. Earlier this year, National Assembly member Jamshed Dasti resigned after being unable to prove in court that he held a master's in Islamic studies. Media reports at the time said he couldn't even name the first two chapters of the Quran. Then, he ran in the special election for the same office he had just vacated, and won.
By: Dawn News
http://awaztoday.com/newsdetails.asp?pageId=5998
ISLAMABAD: Scores of Pakistani lawmakers may lose their seats for allegedly lying about their academic credentials, a growing scandal that adds to the woes of the US-backed leadership as it struggles with Islamist militancy and a weak economy. What began as accusations against a handful of lawmakers has mushroomed into formal legal challenges against up to 160 elected officials more than 10 per cent of the country's federal and provincial legislators. Many are said to have claimed fake degrees to meet a previous requirement for holding office. The Supreme Court has ordered the Elections Commission to vet the credentials of nearly all of the some 1,100 federal and provincial lawmakers. If enough lawmakers are found ineligible, there are rumblings that a midterm election may be needed. The scandal has drawn some frustrated reactions from lawmakers besieged by an aggressive media. ''A degree is a degree! Whether fake or genuine, it's a degree! It makes no difference!'' Baluchistan province chief minister Nawab Aslam Raisani, who claims a master's in political science, shouted at a gaggle of reporters Tuesday. The controversy has its roots in a 2002 law imposed by former military ruler Pervez Musharraf that required candidates for office hold a bachelor's degree or equivalent. Musharraf supposedly wanted to improve the calibre of lawmakers, but critics said the move was more about sidelining certain opponents. It also was undemocratic, critics alleged, in a country of 180 million where only 50 per cent of adults are literate. Traditionally, feudal ties or business success count for more in politics than academic achievement. Seven other countries including Chile, Nigeria and Tajikistan have constitutional provisions specifying an educational qualification for candidacy to the lower house of the national parliament, said Pippa Norris, who teaches at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government. Pakistan's Supreme Court struck down the requirement in April 2008, but not before Musharraf allowed elections in February of that year. Analysts say many candidates apparently submitted fake degree papers to qualify for those races. Many of the potentially fake degrees appear to have been claimed from Islamic seminaries, whose degrees are considered equivalent to a bachelor's in Pakistan. Other lawmakers, however, claim to have earned bachelors, Ph.D.s or master's degrees from institutions whose existence is difficult to verify. One of the more unusual cases involved a provincial lawmaker, Rana Mubashir Iqbal. He recently resigned after accusations that he submitted a bachelor's degree from Punjab University that had been awarded to another man by the same name. Iqbal said he resigned because he was asked to by his party, the opposition Pakistan Muslim League-N, not because he had lied. The scandal appears to cut across party lines, so there may be support for quickly passing a law absolving the accused. But such a move may further tarnish the image of a political elite the majority of Pakistanis, who live in poverty, view as corrupt and indifferent to their needs. Right now, those needs include an end to rolling blackouts due to chronic electricity shortages, curbing double-digit inflation on the prices of staple foods and goods, and rolling back the tide of al-Qaeda and Taliban-led militancy that has cost numerous Pakistani lives. ''A common man can only regret having elected these cheats to the assemblies,'' bemoaned one letter writer to The News. Abid Sher Ali, the chairman of National Assembly's education committee, said that to remove the stain of scandal, even the prime minister who claims a master's in journalism has to prove his degree was legitimate. ''This is a process which will make us a great nation,'' said Ali, who boasts a master's degree in business and finance. ''Nations have to sacrifice some individuals in the process of becoming great, so we should not be scared of the situation we're facing now.'' The party that seems the most affected by the scandal is the opposition PML-N, thus dampening the appetite for a midterm election. The spokeswoman for the ruling Pakistan People's Party, Fauzia Wahab, went so far as to say Tuesday that an early vote would ''derail the democratic system.'' The ruling party chairman, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, has claimed to hold a bachelor's degree from a business school in London, but his party has been unable to produce a certificate or establish what he studied. Zardari will probably escape the latest scandal because he was elected after the degree requirement was struck down. The offending lawmakers should not be dealt with harshly because the blame really lies on the degree requirement, imposed by an unelected man who took power in a coup, said Cyril Almeida, a political columnist, referring to Musharraf. "We have to go back to the original sin," said Almeida. He argued that to really stop corruption in Pakistani politics, courts should enforce laws governing campaign finance or proper disclosure of candidates' assets. In Pakistan, a country where political comebacks are common, it will probably take way more than a kerfuffle over the veracity of degrees to keep legislators out for long, especially since the old law doesn't apply anymore. Earlier this year, National Assembly member Jamshed Dasti resigned after being unable to prove in court that he held a master's in Islamic studies. Media reports at the time said he couldn't even name the first two chapters of the Quran. Then, he ran in the special election for the same office he had just vacated, and won.
By: Dawn News
http://awaztoday.com/newsdetails.asp?pageId=5998
Ammad Hafeez
Minister (2k+ posts)
MNA Malik Riaz's degree challenged
MNA Malik Riaz's degree challenged
As reported by the Business Recorder on Tuesday, an election tribunal of the Lahore High Court (LHC) adjourned to June 20 for provision of record in a petition challenging Bachelor of Arts (BA) degree of a Member of National Assembly (MNA) from NA-118 Lahore, Malik Riaz here Monday.
MNA Malik Riaz's degree challenged
As reported by the Business Recorder on Tuesday, an election tribunal of the Lahore High Court (LHC) adjourned to June 20 for provision of record in a petition challenging Bachelor of Arts (BA) degree of a Member of National Assembly (MNA) from NA-118 Lahore, Malik Riaz here Monday.
Ammad Hafeez
Minister (2k+ posts)
Ammad Hafeez
Minister (2k+ posts)
Kunwar Dilshad talking about Fake degree Holders
Kunwar Dilshad talking about Fake degree Holders
Kunwar Dilshad talking about Fake degree Holders
abdulhaseeb23
MPA (400+ posts)
abh kon pagal ya bewaqoof yeh kahe gaa ke adliya nawaz sharif chala raha hai jab ke sab sai ziada courts aisi ke bandoo ko disqualified ker rahe hain
gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Its all fine and dandy that courts are receiving petitions against those who appear to have bogus degrees.
But I cant help but think that there might be a conspiracy here by the PPP govt to destabilize the Punjab govt. May be PPP is paying these people behind the scene to file petitions. Who knows. We have politicians rotten to the core :(
But I cant help but think that there might be a conspiracy here by the PPP govt to destabilize the Punjab govt. May be PPP is paying these people behind the scene to file petitions. Who knows. We have politicians rotten to the core :(
Ammad Hafeez
Minister (2k+ posts)
Express News Center Stage : Fake Degrees of Politicians : MQM Waseem Akhtar
Express News Center Stage : Fake Degrees of Politicians : MQM Waseem Akhtar
Express News Center Stage : Fake Degrees of Politicians : MQM Waseem Akhtar
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
Judiciary Zinda abad. We never thought these MPAs and MNAs would seem so weak. Its step in the right direction. I hope judiciary is not afraid to take any action against the big fishes.
naeemuddin
New Member
Appeal with honorable supreme court of pakistan
whre is the punishment of jamshed dastee according to cort of law.
i dont agree and seriously angree with the judiciary because why the did not reacted and imposed any punishment on a criminal (jamshed dastee and others) on the spot specially while jamshed dastee had accpted his crime before the chief justice of pakistan. After his free from the supreme court he immediately resigned and went to the chain of the same thoughts donkeys. No one is raising the question of punishment of the jamshed dastees heinous crime so he is re elected under the new electoral law. Supreme court is still sleeping.
punishment against making, holding , using of the jalee degrees and enjoying of the parliament perks over it must be ensured firstly against such criminals that they could not able to hide under the umrella of the other political party. Because they had been ruined the previous law of the dgree compulsion on elctoral process and elected by fraud. Now politicians are crying that the degree law was made by musharraf which was black law, why they did not reacted and refuse to participate in the lections of 2008 it means they only participated in the elction 2008 for the gain of unfair means.
secondly, shame on all those current students who are still silently spending humdreds of thousands rupees of their parents hard eardned money to get the degree by fullfilling all legal formalities with regaular classes and exams, university alumini, student organisations must cry on it because educated and gradutes can never be equal to criminal jamshed dastee and other jalee degree holders.
i request with the supreme court through this forum, if the supreme court can not give punishment on jalee degrees then please seal all the educational institute and only remain open their degree issuing departments that every one could be able to get the degree without regular classes and study of the syllabus like jamshed dastee who does not kept basic deeni and sharaee knowledge. Please open such doors to get the jalee degrees for others who are innocently wasting there money and time in colleges and universities.
whre is the punishment of jamshed dastee according to cort of law.
i dont agree and seriously angree with the judiciary because why the did not reacted and imposed any punishment on a criminal (jamshed dastee and others) on the spot specially while jamshed dastee had accpted his crime before the chief justice of pakistan. After his free from the supreme court he immediately resigned and went to the chain of the same thoughts donkeys. No one is raising the question of punishment of the jamshed dastees heinous crime so he is re elected under the new electoral law. Supreme court is still sleeping.
punishment against making, holding , using of the jalee degrees and enjoying of the parliament perks over it must be ensured firstly against such criminals that they could not able to hide under the umrella of the other political party. Because they had been ruined the previous law of the dgree compulsion on elctoral process and elected by fraud. Now politicians are crying that the degree law was made by musharraf which was black law, why they did not reacted and refuse to participate in the lections of 2008 it means they only participated in the elction 2008 for the gain of unfair means.
secondly, shame on all those current students who are still silently spending humdreds of thousands rupees of their parents hard eardned money to get the degree by fullfilling all legal formalities with regaular classes and exams, university alumini, student organisations must cry on it because educated and gradutes can never be equal to criminal jamshed dastee and other jalee degree holders.
i request with the supreme court through this forum, if the supreme court can not give punishment on jalee degrees then please seal all the educational institute and only remain open their degree issuing departments that every one could be able to get the degree without regular classes and study of the syllabus like jamshed dastee who does not kept basic deeni and sharaee knowledge. Please open such doors to get the jalee degrees for others who are innocently wasting there money and time in colleges and universities.
