Nawaz, Imran are US supporters, says Munter

[mrk123]

:) well you have said it all and said it well.

But there is another thing to note, every activity of PTI is blacked out But rumours are given such a hype.
The only news channel we watch here in UK is ary who completely black out PTI activities in their news (couple of days ago bonga nawaaz was in headlines with all his stupid look, God knows what **** he was talking about, by the way this was his famous Europe's tour where about half a dozen poeple there to welcome him, I mean it was quite an event for our media you know :))

Remember we talked about what to expect in the coming months from the status quo forces. Well, this is part of the larger effort that's in the works. You are seeing trailers of it. More to come.....

Now you watch PTI is protesting against Nato supply on 15th (announced few days ago) and now fazloo just annouced yesterday he will do same rally on 14th.
Now watch how much publicity he will be given and how much IK will be given.

Yes I agree, atleast I don't see any point or any benefit of these rallies but 'apparently' to show to our 'opposition' and 'free and fair media' that IK hasn't changed his stance and is still on track HE MUST do these rallies (even talaat was complaining that why PTI is so busy and focused on organising themselves which was think very unfair).

These rallies etc should not be high priority, this govt is about to go, so why not prepare yourself best that you can to get rid of this mafia instead of going for unorganised madness.
I think media is doing this for a planned purpose, They are dragging PTI in that direction and distract them from organisation within party, they think this will give other parties more room in coming elections.

Thats the problem with people and institutions in Pakistan - we get worked up about things that really are of no consequence. No one is immune to this - even Talat is prone to this. I would really like to know the objectives of these rallies and what are the clear demands and whats the end game the rally participants are looking for. These rallies are the new flavor of the month with no real objectives. They are rallies for the sake of rallies. These same mullahs facilitated Musharraf when he started collaborating with the war on terror and now that its winding down these same mullahs are crying foul. I guess their supply of pick up trucks and AK-47s and money are drying up.

 

[InsafianPTI]

Remember we talked about what to expect in the coming months from the status quo forces. Well, this is part of the larger effort that's in the works. You are seeing trailers of it. More to come.....

yes I know there is still more to come, can you believe there were atleast 3-4 baseless news going on on media (some on social media) against PTI just yesterday, i.e. this one about muntor, then about abrar leaving party, then 2 different ones about fauzia qausari, and also about the press conference IK did today (asma shirazi was trying to cook up something in her show yesterday 10th july whcih didn't work).
Sometimes I just laugh but mostly it drives me mad.
If this is a trailor then I probably gonna have a heart attack when the real movie starts :)

Thats the problem with people and institutions in Pakistan - we get worked up about things that really are of no consequence. No one is immune to this - even Talat is prone to this. My question is what are the objectives of these rallies and what are the clear demands and whats the end game the rally participants are looking for. These rallies are the new flavor of the month with no real objectives. They are rallies for the sake of rallies. These same mullahs facilitated Musharraf when he started collaborating with the war on terror and now that its winding down these same mullahs are crying foul. I guess their supply of pick up trucks and AK-47s and money are drying up.

I don't se any goal of these rallies(I don't think PTI was planning for these ones they are pushed into it), Its no way possible that pak can close this right now when US is saying(lie or truth in anycase) that they are preparing to leave.
What pakistan should focus on is how to get to make it a reality without pakistan being in anymore trouble.
Instead our whole media and all the political forces are wondering IF IK did not come out on road it will mean he has given up on everything.
Now again look on one hand the whole world media is raising questions on character of DPC including ours and then they are very surprising demanding IK why he didn't join them.
IK never joined them anyway so why now?

 

[آزاد امیدوار]

PTI = PML(n)

 

[Zoaib]

Firstly, we don't even have a video where he's saying this. Secondly, even if he said this, it has to be seen in the context of the question. He was specifically asked about whether the next government would be anti-US. IK has always been saying on all forums including on Pakistani media that he is NOT anti-US, because you can't be against a whole nation. PTI's just against the policies of the US in this region, especially the master-slave relationship with Pakistan. This was probably interpreted by Munter as meaning a "pro-US" government (I recall the phrase whether you are with us or against us). Mind this has happened before as well when Munter talked positively about Imran Khan on Capital Talk show but he was more careful at that time to say that IK is not anti-US. This time he has gone a step ahead, whether it's deliberate or a mistake, time will tell.

But of course there is huge paranoia with everything American here, so IK will have to deny this himself on his next TV appearance (He'll mos probably be asked this question) as he had to do before about the fake news about his meeting with Munter and Pasha together.

 

[MuslimPak]

Re: PTI = PML(n)

no doubt, no difference to be seen in reality between pml n and pti. Sirf baaton se kuch nahin hota , kaam kar k dikhana hota hai.

 

[mirror777]

Re: PTI = PML(n)

This post shows how small your mind is ....
Imran Khan always said I am not anti-American and it is for the betterment of both the countries to stop this war on terror.

 

[insafandjust]

Re: PTI = PML(n)

IK is not Against american but american policy. Fake news and those who circulating fake news are hypocrite and fake

 

[InsafianPTI]

Re: PTI = PML(n)

:lol::lol::lol::lol:oh my Godnessssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!another one!

lets see how many threads people post with the same news.
I think moderators have changed their policy, they no more merge the same threads.
[MENTION=4936]Adeel[/MENTION] [MENTION=10205]Waseem[/MENTION]

 

[mrk123]

yes I know there is still more to come, can you believe there were atleast 3-4 baseless news going on on media (some on social media) against PTI just yesterday, i.e. this one about muntor, then about abrar leaving party, then 2 different ones about fauzia qausari, and also about the press conference IK did today (asma shirazi was trying to cook up something in her show yesterday 10th july whcih didn't work).
Sometimes I just laugh but mostly it drives me mad.
If this is a trailor then I probably gonna have a heart attack when the real movie starts :)

Thats why I am a pessimist - always set my expectations low ;-)

It can only happen in Pakistan that people are still watching talk shows and trusting anything these anchors are saying. One thing I have noticed is that anytime Asma Shirazi lady goes out to talk to the public she seeks out these baba jis :-) Every 4 people she interviews, three are baba jis.....go figure!
I have said it all along that these anchors are hacks out their to fill their pockets, put air into their already inflated egos and serve their paymasters.

I don't se any goal of these rallies(I don't think PTI was planning for these ones they are pushed into it), Its no way possible that pak can close this right now when US is saying(lie or truth in anycase) that they are preparing to leave.
What pakistan should focus on is how to get to make it a reality without pakistan being in anymore trouble.
Instead our whole media and all the political forces are wondering IF IK did not come out on road it will mean he has given up on everything.
Now again look on one hand the whole world media is raising questions on character of DPC including ours and then they are very surprising demanding IK why he didn't join them.
IK never joined them anyway so why now?

People who have planned these rallies have larger goals in mind - one was to put the opposition parties in an awkward position. They have been able to achieve their goals I think.

 

[InsafianPTI]

Thats why I am a pessimist - always set my expectations low ;-)

It can only happen in Pakistan that people are still watching talk shows and trusting anything these anchors are saying. One thing I have noticed is that anytime Asma Shirazi lady goes out to talk to the public she seeks out these baba jis :-) Every 4 people she interviews, three are baba jis.....go figure!
I have said it all along that these anchors are hacks out their to fill their pockets, put air into their already inflated egos and serve their paymasters.

yes I did actually:), also that when some of these baba jis say something insulting about IK, the smile on her face is worth watching.
I mean seriously she can't even pretend! woman (the ones like her) are supposed to be good at it.

People who have planned these rallies have larger goals in mind - one was to put the opposition parties in an awkward position. They have been able to achieve their goals I think.

I like it when you use the word 'People' and sort of put everything under the carpet.I can think of many stake holders in that (inclu govt and establishment, what a shame for our army)

Yes they have surely achieved their goal! The goal was never to be problem for the supply line, the goal was different, and our media veryyyyyyyyyyy cleverly focused on that ;)

 

[Sedqal]

Now again look on one hand the whole world media is raising questions on character of DPC including ours and then they are very surprising demanding IK why he didn't join them.
IK never joined them anyway so why now?​

They are surprised because Nato supply line and Drone attacks have been the backbone of PTI call for revolution. IK's claim to fame has been his opposition to WOT and related ills. Now I understand that it was a political play but many don't thus the broken hearts. There are no Messiahs in politics, people ought to listen carefully to the rhetoric of politicians and hold them responsible for their promises if they back track.

IK is more prone to criticism because he projected himself as a Messiah just arriving from heavens to drag this nation to its golden destiny. IK can't play traditional politics and expect his followers to remain docile.

 

[Just_one]

Oh yes, and Zardari is a brave hero standing in the way of America!

This Munter guy is intentionally or unintentionally throwing stone into sh!t.

He is making a vague statement, but to the detrimant of PTI. I Think IK will explain this clearly in an interview. So stay tuned.

In other words, if I say that America should withdraw from Afghanistan; if I say America should end its interferences into other countries' affairs - it can be interpreted as something "beneficial" to America, BECAUSE IT IS!

This is the sneakiness!

Anyway, IK has repeatedly said that he doesn't hate America or is anti-America. We are not anti-any-people. He is against America foreign policies. In fact, many Americans are also against these policies.

 

[TruPakistani]

Those who claim that Cameron Munter gave this statement, Please provide a valid video link to support the claim.

The BBC Urdu interview is below, where no such comments are made by him:

 

[TruPakistani]

Re: Munter Jee Tusi Great Ho- Barri Khuli Gal karte ho

I am sure my this thread soon going to be hijacked by admin in favour of IK or Nawazo ,but Truth is truth .Agar kiisi ke Baap mein dam Hai tu Munter Ko Challenge Karo,
But maximum is to be done is hijack my thread by Admin,as they did with thread of Arsalan escorted by 42 mobiles in heart of Islamabad to take a cup of coffee.
I request Admin be open have a tolerance to bear opposition like me,it will give some credibility to your Forum.I am sure few nausty guys will come and start abusing me inspite of news or their leader deed.

Instead of accusing Admin, Please post a video link with content supporting your claim.
Newspaper news is not credible as it is influenced by the government.

 

[Afaq Chaudhry]

ناٹو سپلائ کے خلاف مارچ میں حصہ نہ لینے کی اصل وجہ جنتر منتر نے بیان کر دی ہے۔



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[thepearl]

i dont care what american say...................i know my leader, who took the decision of Atomic test................

 

[thepearl]

امریکی ہو اور پھر سفارتکار بی تو پھر ایسے بیان تو دے گا نا. امریکن کیا کہتے ہیں مجھے اس کی کوئی پرواہ نہیں، میرا پاس میرا اپنا دماغ ہے ہمیں پتا ہے عمران کیا ہے اور نواز شریف کیا ہے​

 

[xiaahmad]

WIKI LEAKS HAS ALREADY SHOWN WHO IS SLAVE OF USA AND WHO IS NOT

IMRAN KHAN ALWAYS SAY THAT WE WANT FRNDSHIP WITH USA NOT SLAVERY

And in wikileaks it says that IMRAN KHAN is the only leader who is not under influence of USA

WHERE AS WIKILEAKS has exposed NAWAZ SHARIF BIG TIME

 

[imyrathore]

I said almost the same thing in response to a post.

People are getting worked without knowing the content or the context - but then again this is Pak media we are talking about and Pakistanis we are talking about :-)

bang on. IK has aways said he isnt againt any country or ppl but is totally against the policies of the USA government. We dont know the context in which this has been said or anything and the nutters in the media have gone to town with it. just sums up ther level.

 

[Omer96]

there is nothing wrong to be a supporter of usa. we criticize american policy of war on terror they started on 9/11 killing about 20 lac people in total in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq. We are against drone attacks which kills our innocent people. we should resolve our internal issues ourselves and this can only be done if we come out of wot and start dialogue with tribal people and then finally give them basic facilities. Please people understand it is 21st century and we cant be against a nation.

And finally IK do criticize american policy but not Americans.​