Najam Sethi calls Quad e Azam an 'Ahmaq' & Dr Niazi's angry response(column)

InsafianPTI

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Najam Sethi Ki Be Izzati by Ajmal Niazia (in a Column)

ofcourse nobody should be abusive, lets make that clear first!

secondly its not about being PTI its about being pakistani and our ideology.

would you sit down on an india, american and british channel and speak about the historic figures like this the way he did.

no jinnah wasn't a prophet, he is an important historic figure and najam sethi calls himself a pakistani,

if he has any problem with the history we are taught then prove it otherwise with solid arguement like intellectuals do (I am a psot graduate research student so I know how it should be done) instead of just making a decisive and bluff statement.
Najam Sethi has a point of view and he has every right to the freedom of speech. Let's not be cyber Mumtaz Qadris, Qaid Azam was a great man and founder of our nation but he is not a Prophet (nauzibillah). Religious parties like JI, JUI used to call him Kafir Azam.

PTI members should not used foul language against any journalist but rather convince them through logic and reason, calling them names and cursing widens the ever increasing polarity in our society and completely counter productive.
 

Nike_313

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Khool aankh Zameen dekh Falak dekh Faza dekh ...............Mashriq say ubhartaay howay Soraj (Pakistan) ko zara dekh

Mooonh kala hoga Pakistan kay sath ghaddari karnay waloon ka. Insha Allah.........Pakistani Qaum mil kar ********** e watan ko nakaam bana day ki Allah ki madad kay sath.
 

redsky

Voter (50+ posts)
Re: Najam Sethi Ki Be Izzati by Ajmal Niazia (in a Column)

agr pata chaly tumhi kabi k tumhra baap (father) harmi hota tha when he was young so you should not allow to call him ****** sorry dear don't mind its only example if you think its no problem to call him then your point is right soryy ag
 

zubair1234

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Najam Sethi Ki Be Izzati by Ajmal Niazia (in a Column)

no i will not and i will not call qaid azam's action as hamaqat but if someone wants to call their father's actions as hamaqat than i will not stop them either.

bohot sare jahil ghus gey hain siasat mien " jahil ko agar johal ka nam dya jae or kam zarf k haton mein agar jam dya jae' tu phir eheei kuch hota
 

zubair1234

Senator (1k+ posts)
khool aankh zameen dekh falak dekh faza dekh ...............mashriq say ubhartaay howay soraj (pakistan) ko zara dekh

mooonh kala hoga pakistan kay sath ghaddari karnay waloon ka. Insha allah.........pakistani qaum mil kar ********** e watan ko nakaam bana day ki allah ki madad kay sath.
zoroor hoga inshaallah allah inko rooswa karega or inko pakistan mein koi jagha bhee nahee milegee
 

redsky

Voter (50+ posts)
agr pata chaly tumhi kabi k tumhra baap (father) harmi hota tha when he was young so you should not allow to call him ****** sorry dear don't mind its only example if you think its no problem to call him then your point is right soryy ag
 

zubair1234

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Najam Sethi Ki Be Izzati by Ajmal Niazia (in a Column)

they all are part of haqqni network which is bent upon destroying pakistan. He is bakaoo maal who sold his alligience for dollars and american citizenship.

mention it plz which haqani.........one who is ready to die for paksitan and another one who like die zilat kee mot
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Najam Sethi Ki Be Izzati by Ajmal Niazia (in a Column)

Najam Sethi has a point of view and he has every right to the freedom of speech. Let's not be cyber Mumtaz Qadris, Qaid Azam was a great man and founder of our nation but he is not a Prophet (nauzibillah). Religious parties like JI, JUI used to call him Kafir Azam.

PTI members should not used foul language against any journalist but rather convince them through logic and reason, calling them names and cursing widens the ever increasing polarity in our society and completely counter productive.

Freedom of speech, well and good but never use a bad word for Quaid e Azam. We Pakistani do not support such kind of freedom of speech. Before you write such thing consider the culture of your living country and to whome you are writing for. Such Words like "Ahmaq" against Quaide Azam will never be tolerated. Najjam Sethi is respectless and Badtamiz Admi. Mind your own sense before you write on behaviour of PTI members.
 
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ALI ARYAN

Senator (1k+ posts)
لعنتی کردار کے مالک ہیں یہ لوگ انھوں نے اپنا دین ایمان تو بیچ کھایا ہے اب ان پر تنقید کر کے اور انکو سن کر اور پڑھ کر کیوں اپنا خون جلائیں سب سے اچھا انکا ایک علاج ہے انکو سننا پڑھنا اور دیکھنا چھوڑ دیا جائے
 

cefspan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Najam Sethi Ki Be Izzati by Ajmal Niazia (in a Column)

Najam Sethi has a point of view and he has every right to the freedom of speech. Let's not be cyber Mumtaz Qadris, Qaid Azam was a great man and founder of our nation but he is not a Prophet (nauzibillah). Religious parties like JI, JUI used to call him Kafir Azam.

PTI members should not used foul language against any journalist but rather convince them through logic and reason, calling them names and cursing widens the ever increasing polarity in our society and completely counter productive.

Jinnah is a nabi or rasool or khuda that none of his actions can be considered hamaaqat ?

For the First Guy , Freedom of expression , yup right , then why stop and Hamaqat? Galiyaan do , abuse him , spit on his grave!!!!! On the Other Hand SO called Champions of Freedom Of speech punish you on holocaust denial .....

Now , FOR THEDUDE ,

By the Way , This Infidel , me myself have spent previous 6 years analysing and studying Jinnah , Kindly name FEW OF HIS BAD ACTIONS , Aur Please Bengali abolishment and constitution ka name na laena , He had his plans , which he was not able to complete , aur US KAE BAAD ANAE WALAE MIRASAE CHURAE THEA , except Khawaja Nazim Ud din and Zia (He fought a war , and I consider him a good man )
 

zubair1234

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Najam Sethi Ki Be Izzati by Ajmal Niazia (in a Column)

Just posted a comment on: http://najamsethiaapaskibaat.wordpr...-ki-baat-14th-dec-2011-geo-news/#comment-1400


Dear Mr Sethi

I have watching your shows since Dec 2009 and I have always supported your rights to share view as you see fit. I have always admired your in depth analysis, and the way of presentation. Your show is clean and since it is sort of like a Q/A shows there is absolutely no fight on the show like others.

How ever I must also be fair to you so you could appraise your own quality of talks. I was deeply disappointed and hurt inside when you used the word 'himaqat' relating to our founding father Mohammad Ali Jinnah. I think was a pathetic and cruel comment on your part and you must feel ashamed of your comment.

I so do understand your relationship with US/UK/India that you have to say things to please them but you must also understand that bottom line is that you will and must always be a Pakistani.

Please refrain from making such comments. Also remember that Pakistanis are the reason you are making Rs Millions.

A Viewer
Gazoo Martian
i was watching him from a long time but when i search that he is not sincere with pakistan cause he is supported by some one who are not interested in pakistani interest
 

rafay1122

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Najam Sethi Ki Be Izzati by Ajmal Niazia (in a Column)

Yes



Zardari is Bilawal's hero ... so you're giving license to Bilawal to not question his father at all ... when Bilawal's criticism would be most helpful in mending Zardari's ways

If you consider someone a hero, he can still be your hero after you admit that "some" of his actions were not heroic

IK is my hero, but I would not hesitate for a second criticizing him or even calling some of his actions himaaqat if I think it is a himaaqat ... he would still be my hero after that ... same goes with my father, my mother, and everyone else


Najam Sethi didn't call Jinnah "Ahmaq" (which would be gross over-generalization, if he says that then I would be against it) ... he just pointed out "one of his actions" as "himaaqat" ... I don't see anything wrong with that

My point was academic...I rest my case x
 

FayMah

Voter (50+ posts)
Correction!!!

Bhutto was not hero but a worst politician. Bhutto and his family is curse to Pakistan. Bhutto was responsible to separate East Pakistan from us.
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That's your point of view. I don't want to argue on it. anyways thanks for reading and commenting. Take care.
 

FayMah

Voter (50+ posts)
Sorry dear ZA Bhutto no doubt emerged as a big leader but after Bengal Seperation........ but his role was questionable in "Dhaka Fall"..... being imran's fan i also say that it is not yet proved fully that imran is also Quaid's level leader,,,,, we will decide that after he deliver to us,,,, which we hope that inshaAllah he will deliver......
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you have your view.

(May be he was hanged due to his part in this act (ALLAH SWT Know the best).
BUT what about Gen Yahya Khan, he was the decision maker at that time and was fully responsible.
He was buried in with Pakistan flag. this is long debate.)

My point of view is different.
we have 'a few' personalities .... to present to the world ...... as our true representatives ... 'statesmen'.
 

IhsanIlahi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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you have your view.

(May be he was hanged due to his part in this act (ALLAH SWT Know the best).
BUT what about Gen Yahya Khan, he was the decision maker at that time and was fully responsible.
He was buried in with Pakistan flag. this is long debate.)

My point of view is different.
we have 'a few' personalities .... to present to the world ...... as our true representatives ... 'statesmen'.

i agree to you,,,, Yahya was the main culprit because he was decision maker,,,, and politicians had their own role.... warna itni asaani se mulk tota nahi krty
 

shikra

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Najam Sethi Ki Be Izzati by Ajmal Niazia (in a Column)

Najam Sethi has a point of view and he has every right to the freedom of speech. Let's not be cyber Mumtaz Qadris, Qaid Azam was a great man and founder of our nation but he is not a Prophet (nauzibillah). Religious parties like JI, JUI used to call him Kafir Azam.
(janab jaan ki amaan pate hue bas yehi kahoon ga keh ahmakon ki duniya mein rehne walon ko doosre ahmaq hi lagte hain.kia khayal hai ab is freedom of speech ke baare mein.don,t
(cry)....ok .NOW LISTEN.LETS NOT BE SULMAN RUSHDI OF CYBER.)
 
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Re: Najam Sethi Ki Be Izzati by Ajmal Niazia (in a Column)

When you dont know the history dont spew hanky panky

Niether JI nor JUI said QA Kafir. It was a molvi of Majlis Ahrar Mazhar Ali Azhar. So First learn what happen , dont Join the band wagon
:angry_smile:

Najam Sethi has a point of view and he has every right to the freedom of speech. Let's not be cyber Mumtaz Qadris, Qaid Azam was a great man and founder of our nation but he is not a Prophet (nauzibillah). Religious parties like JI, JUI used to call him Kafir Azam.
janab jaan ki amaan pate hue bas yehi kahoon ga keh ahmakon ki duniya mein rehne walon ko doosre ahmaq hi lagte hain.kia khayal hai ab is freedom of speech ke baare mein.don,t
(cry)....ok .NOW LISTEN.LETS NOT BE SULMAN RUSHDI OF CYBER.
 

shikra

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Najam Sethi Ki Be Izzati by Ajmal Niazia (in a Column)

When you dont know the history dont spew hanky panky
BHAI JAAN YEH ASAL MEIN COMMENT MIX HO GAYE JANAB THOGHTFELON SAHIB KE COMMENTS HAIN.MERE COMMENTS YAHANJANAB JAAN KI AMMAN,,,,SE SHUROOH HOTE HAIN

Niether JI nor JUI said QA Kafir. It was a molvi of Majlis Ahrar Mazhar Ali Azhar. So First learn what happen , dont Join the band wagon
:angry_smile:
 

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