Questions should be answered with proofs
Oh so you were just lying? Or just propagating false propaganda as usual? As i said before MQM was an anti establishment party to begin with, refused to listen to anyone or follow the status quo and they were punished for it. No need to go any deeper than that and build up conspiracy theories.
Do you have trouble reading? I used two examples in my e-mail to Nisar, the fraud by the Governor and his wife and the properties used by MQM. Now tell me which two of these are wrong and false accusations?
On murders, off course there are many evidence and witnesses of the murders and mayhem caused by MQM. Witnesses which are harassed by MQM.
Why MQM did became part of the NRO to get rid of cases of Murders and other serious crimes? Why they do not want and request/demand to re-instate those cases and face them in the Courts? And dont give us this cock and bull story that MQM opposed NRO. We all know scams of MQM.
Did they recently entered in a deal with PPP not to make public the proceedings of the cases against the accused belonging to MQM for target killing, captured by the authorities?
You call using a kitchen knife and a brick for killing someone 'professional'??
Off course not, but will you tell us who would be so professional not to leave any evidence? Including the evidence on CCTV cameras which are spread all over London? Movement of vehicle, people etc? DNA evidence? Why do you think Yard is struggling to capture the killers? Some time cruel ways are the best ways, for example if an advance weapon was used, it would have been easy to trace for the Yard.
I will say it again, MQM was created by students and took on an anti establishment platform. If you trying to imply that Zia-ul-Haq helped MQM in its rise then that also may be true, but the extent of his help is questionable. I know for a fact(a hearld research article and from multiple other sources in the MQM) that the first help MQM got was from JSQM. MQM formed its own organisation, its own structure, its own workers. They had no help in that.
You are trying to deny facts which are public knowledge. If you want to deny the facts it is down to you, but you wouldnt convince anyone here. MQM was created by the Establishment and Gen. Zia; it has always been attached to the establishment and still is.
MQM was pro establishment, you really believe that?? Then why did the establishment launch an operation against it?? You mind telling me that? Why did the establishment create Haqiqi? Why did they kill so many MQM members? Of course people are like cant understand the fact that how come just some middle class students can form the third biggest party of Pakistan!! When your own hero imran has failed to do so... Hence you use this old propaganda against MQM.
Man you are clueless? We all know, being pro establishment does not mean that all other political parties would also toe your line. Why MQM then try to blame PMLN and PPP for actions against them? Here are your answers from your own Partys allegations against other two political parties of Pakistan.
All I can do is laugh.. I am not in MQM, just a person living in Karachi who decided to make his voice heard because of all the lies people say about Karachi and MQM.
By the way who are these people? You talked to them? Bit rich coming from someone who doesnt live in Karachi but thinks he is an expert on all of Karachis affairs...
You can laugh as much as you like, it does not change the facts and what I know. You may be in Karachi and you may be bias but do you represent whole of Karachi? I know hundreds of people in Karachi too. Not one or two but literally hundreds of people have told me the same stories not now but for years. The stories of murders and mayhem, bhatta collections, threats, how hides collected, what threats used, how the local offices are used etc. From the time when there were gates erected on the entrances of most streets in Karachi, with armed people guarding them 24/7. When the goons of two factions of MQM were attacking the areas of one another and killing innocent passers bys on the streets.
I myself witnessed two incidents while on holidays in Karachi. One in block 13th FB Area, on Water Pump round about, during the time when open war was going on between two factions of MQM. Then again another incident in Block 6 Gulshan-e-Iqbal in one of my recent visits.
You tell me, if I on short holidays to Karachi could witness two incidents by MQM and its another faction over the years, what do you think about the poor innocent residents of Karachi? What experiences they had for years? Do you really want me to ignore what my two eyes saw? What about many people I know personally whose family members are victims of the terror brought by MQM? Do you think so many people who are born in Karachi and know people around them would be clueless about the identity of people who are responsible, especially when the perpetrators are local? Get a life my friend, you wouldnt convince people here. Why you think, majority dislike MQM?
Your comments about Imran are wrong as well, I am not a supporter of him, I may like him as a person but thats about it. I think this is the case for most of the people here, they find no one else to treat the ills of Pakistan. Ills created by MQM and other parties. I am not saying others are not involved in illegal activities. You should remember I am not a political person; I am only a concerned person. For me a wrong is a wrong and two wrongs dont make a right.
All those properties are rented, MQM owns no standing property in England. It is all paid by the 2% MQM collects from all of its workers. That money goes to pay for all of the rents and Altaf Hussains living and treatment. Since MQM members dont complain about it , since its their money you shouldnt either. I dont know who owns those properties but since they are rented i dont think it would be that difficult to find that out. Also you can email faisal subzwari if you really want to know. Im sure he will oblige you.
You can find MQMs account information at ECP and PILDAT also released it, along with the amount of tax paid by MQMs MNAs and MPAs. Since Altaf Hussain earns nothing, hence he pays no tax... He has no income, only that which is given by party workers and there are a lot of them.
This is the catch, so who owns the properties? Didnt you see what I write, I wrote, the rental value of the benefit offered to AH with current rental rates for the property used by him. You are really not reading what I write.
As for AH income you are wrong once again, IR rules Type of Taxable benefits 4.3 Benefits and facilities include: Provision for living and other accommodation, including light, heat, rates and domestic or other services. Use of any asset provided by the Employer or another person acting on the Employers behalf, examples are use of furniture or TV, motor cycle or yatch, etc. Provision of fuel for cars dealt in chapter 13.
These are some examples, you can see the whole list on the IR website on the following short cut;
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/guidance/480_chapter4.pdf
AH income should be taxable if it is not then MQM is breaking tax rules in the UK. And please don't tell me that MQM is not AH employer, tax men know that trick too. You can not live like Kings and declare that you have no income. Every benefits in kind is taxable, no backhanders are allowed.
Which property is under the use of AH? Do you know its rental value? Who owns it? Any proof of the rental agreement? If the properties are rented as you say they are, I guess from the private landlords, then MQM must have entered the rental agreements with Landlords, why dont they provide the rental agreements and the details of he landlords to quell all the doubts? Show us these details if you and MQM are truthful and their dealings are above board. I am only asking logical questions from you. Or it may be that the properties are not from private landlords. In one of my previous posts on another thread, I also wrote, if properties are bought using trusts, then still similar questions apply. You should be rest assured I know what I am talking.
I can not find any accounts, please guide us where we can examine the accounts? Are they audited? Do they have the details of how money is collected and from whom? How it is transferred to the UK, the accounts details etc?
Also please show us the details of the rental agreements with landlord information. Please remember it is your claim that the properties are rented, you should provide the proofs they are rented and who is the owners/landlords of the properties.
