Message from a serving Pakistan Army Officer

[saliaz]

اف میرے خدا اتنی نفرت ۔۔۔۔۔۔ افسوس دشمن کامیاب ہو گیا ۔۔۔۔۔ لیکن ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔!!!!! اگر جنگ ہوئی تو کیا سرحد پر ہم لڑیں گے دشمن سے ۔۔۔۔۔ کیا ہم میں اتنی صلاحیت ہے کہ ایم ایم عالم، راشد مہناس، اور ان تمام شہیدوں کی طرح لڑ سکیں ۔۔۔؟؟؟ یا صرف ہم زبان زیادہ اچھی ہلا سکتے ہیں ۔۔۔۔؟؟؟؟؟​

Oo Bhai,,, thora criticism to handle karna sekho...why conclude? jab zaroorat pare gi naa yehe log saath dain ge. But Itna zaroor understand karo ke yeh sab ke sab log ghalat nahi keh rahe...shiqwa apno se hi kia jata hai aur is liye bhi kia jata hai kion ke aisa expect nahi kia hota.

Just tell me why this country had to suffer over 40 years under military rule and what benefits were achieved?

Don't mind but if you ask your army if they have been given US immigration 60% wont think twice to leave their BELOVED Pakistan.

 

[PkRevolution]

i m pretty sure this is hazrat zaid hamid himself or his chela :lol:

Do you have any courrage to talk against CIA, RAW, MOSAD or Pakistans enemies??? Write here few words against them come on?

Pakistan need people who have courrage. We have enough of those people who can make fun.

 

[PkRevolution]

Oo Bhai,,, thora criticism to handle karna sekho...why conclude? jab zaroorat pare gi naa yehe log saath dain ge. But Itna zaroor understand karo ke yeh sab ke sab log ghalat nahi keh rahe...shiqwa apno se hi kia jata hai aur is liye bhi kia jata hai kion ke aisa expect nahi kia hota.

Just tell me why this country had to suffer over 40 years under military rule and what benefits were achieved?

Don't mind but if you ask your army if they have been given US immigration 60% wont think twice to leave their BELOVED Pakistan.

Shikwa karna har aik ka haq he. Lekin be waqt shikwa acha nahi lagta. Hamain thori Zimedari ka ehsas hona chahiye.

 

[khanpanni]

If I have to say something then to the commanding Generals, they did
lot of mistakes by putting the nose in political and civil affairs of the country and didnt help to built a
solid political social structure of Pakistan. That is why now we have unstability
with unexperienced politions as well as civil corrupt institutions and very
dishearten public ? (An observation) From our fauji till Major they have limited authority in overall affairs, and
they are the real essence and assets of the country ! From Major till
Brig. some authority as executers and upwords are some pro USA and some
are real patriots for the country. If our pro western (doesnt matter which branch and office) follow the werstern agenda
then, it is since 9/11 UAS and ally are creating wars specially in Islamic world one
side to boost up their own very profitable war industry and on the otherside snaching away the oil and mineral resources by destroying the human and infera structures of the countries, which Allah doesnt like as we muslims Know ?
Our policies should be redirected according to the will of general public to bring
peace, stability and harmony in the country so that normal Pakistani could
stand side by side with our very RESPECTED Army.

 

[PkRevolution]

Nobody hates u. However, we hate ur kaaley kartoot.

It is the other way around. Acc to u, in 58, it was political leadership, in 1971 it was bhutto, 77--bhutto again, 80's USSR, 90`s USA, kargil--nawaz sharif, 2000`s--- TTP, RAW, CIA, Mossad etc. Instead of doing ur job, ur bosses are always looking for some scapegoats to put blame on for their blunders.

Well, ur generals are and u r slave of ur generals. Therefore, it makes u a slave of slave.

Sorry, actually it is dangerous duffers

See, u are above any Pakistani law, u enjoy omnipotent powers in this country, u make, break, overthrow political govts whenever u want and then u bemoan like a cry baby. Since when u have started following political govts???

Well, some are corrupt, others are incompetent and the rest of the generals have no courage to speak the truth in front of COAS.

There are no 'ifs' and 'buts', just do ur frigging job

U r smothering me and suffocating this country with this 'unwanted' love.

Did u ever??? The same oath, u have rubbed in the dust 4 times on orders of some dictators!! Where is ur moral compass officer???
Defend my country......,
Does surrendering en masse before the enemy also entail in defending ur country??? Or does killing ur own countrymen mean that??

Now, u r joking

OMG, u r so funny

Right! u will continue enslaving us

But for that u need a corrupt general`s permission first

Seeing ur record, i seriously doubt that

Dont worry man! In dire situation, ur generals will trade half of Pakistan for ur life

Yeah, right! U said the same thing about pakistan in the past and look what u and ur bosses did to this country. Just spare Islam from ur rhetoric. Pakistan is still suffering from ur empty slogans. Now, dont do this to Islam.
AND

U mean, by killing civilian slaves of prophet Muhammad(PBUH), u r showing ur love for the prophet(PBUH)!!!!!

For that u and ur bosses will have to stop all these anti-pakistan policies. U do ur job and every pakistani will start loving and respecting u again.

Now, dont be so emotional. Ur bosses have no similarity with Great Salahuddin. And unfortunately u r not allowed to follow ur own conscience. Which leaves us at the conclusion that u will continue following the orders of ur bosses which are unfortunately slaves of USA, money, power, luxurious life etc. Therefore, nothing will change until and unless ur bosses dont get rid of all these masters. I have no doubt on ur sincerity and patriotism but u r just a tiny pawn in this great game or a toothless lion at the most. Stop writing these empty and hollow posts filled with lies and cockamamie, and just do ur job. We know ur institution very well and it has nothing to do with above mentioned great things.

In short, just do ur frigging job man and everything will be hunky dory again. No Pakistani can hate u ever, despite all these blunders and follies.We have ur back. Like a mother, whether u do sth right or wrong, at the end of the day, we are with u and u r with us. We want u strong and unbeatable. And, if possible, try to instil some sense into ur bosses.

Big words but nothing behind. As a pakistani it is first to be responsible in current time. People who are criticising ARMY in a situation what Pakistan is facing are all other than responsible.

Moazzam sahb:

Sitting in Newyork and talking about defending borders is very easy. You know why our enemies have no success till now??

Top Intl. secret agencies tried every thing to destroy Pakistan but they have no success. Why? Are you doing this job?

I am not against criticism but look first how sensitive is this matter today.

 

[rana14801]

i think our enemy is succeeding and have created a lot who r simply idiot GHADAARs of this Pak land and cannot accept any thing good from armed forces.WHY DON"T THEY UNDERSTAND THAT ARMY IS WORKING UNDER A CIVILIAN GOVT.ARMED FORCES IF DISOBEY IT WILL BE SIMPLE MUTINY AND BLOOD SHED ALL OVER AND OUR ENEMY IS WAITING FOR THAT MOMENT.for God's sake trust ur forces and ask govt to stop all this and pull back from coalition with NATO and its allies.I K is repeatedly talking to stop all this non sense from the very first day. why don't u ask govt to stop all this and support IK.

 

[zubair12345]

I already hate you people . . . . No problem . . . .

You are American Slaves and Duffer . . . . Its true . . . .

Now is it the incompetence of a few Generals . . . . No sir as whole GHQ is involved and you put the incompetence of government first and forget the ten years of Musharraf . . . . . Your biased view . . . .

Your brutalities in FATA and Baluchistan are a proof that your words are full of lies . . . . It is your hatred for your own brothers and not love which is my reason to hate you . . . . And I wish you ve taken oath to defend your plots and privileges and Pakistan may have than a safer place . . . . .

I dont need your sacrifice to defend my self and it is your blood shed that has proved to be the last nail in the coffin of this state . . . .

At present you regard the USA as mightiest and Dollar your religion . . . .

And by the way who is creating enmity . . . . Mine or your Military Actions . . . . .

And next time please dont waste mine and your time through such stupid threads . . . . Civilians seldom get fooled by such posters . . . . . .

i think one scorpion still left they have slaughter 1000 no problem they can kill few in this forum.

 

[zubair12345]

Big words but nothing behind. As a pakistani it is first to be responsible in current time. People who are criticising ARMY in a situation what Pakistan is facing are all other than responsible.

Moazzam sahb:

Sitting in Newyork and talking about defending borders is very easy. You know why our enemies have no success till now??

Top Intl. secret agencies tried every thing to destroy Pakistan but they have no success. Why? Are you doing this job?

I am not against criticism but look first how sensitive is this matter today.

this is the time when we can find out the fact. like to see the (true friends see in the difficult time) we can see the enemy faces at this time who were sadiq and jafar? they were muslim too so we can see in this forum who is against our brave armed forces eahood o nasar.
o hanood so our people so called muslim and pakistani against our forces it means supporting enemies how can be muslim and pakistani. doob maren chuloo bhar pani main.

 

[zubair12345]

oo bhai,,, thora criticism to handle karna sekho...why conclude? Jab zaroorat pare gi naa yehe log saath dain ge. But itna zaroor understand karo ke yeh sab ke sab log ghalat nahi keh rahe...shiqwa apno se hi kia jata hai aur is liye bhi kia jata hai kion ke aisa expect nahi kia hota.

Just tell me why this country had to suffer over 40 years under military rule and what benefits were achieved?

Don't mind but if you ask your army if they have been given us immigration 60% wont think twice to leave their beloved pakistan.

iss qadar shoq k apne watan kee izat se bhee barham hai..... tha eh jo pakisani aaj pakisan kee afwaj se barbham hai

 

[zubair12345]

do you have any courrage to talk against cia, raw, mosad or pakistans enemies??? Write here few words against them come on?

Pakistan need people who have courrage. We have enough of those people who can make fun.

thank you brother very well said ya allah ham sab ko aqal e shaoor de

 

[crowbar]

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Hate me ........,
Blame me for everything........,
Call me a slave of America .........,
Nick me as "DUFFER" .........,
Blame me for the incompetence of the government & some corrupt Generals :angry_smile:,
..... BUT.....
I will always love you.....,
Because I have taken oath to defend you......,
Defend my country......,
Defend my motherland.......,
Defend my nation .......,
...No matter what ...
By God.......,
We passionately wish to sacrifice our lives for Pakistan's honor at all times...,
By God......,
We will defend Pakistan till our last drop of blood.......,
By God.....,
Pakistan will not fall down till the last soldier of Pakistan Army is alive.....,
By Allah......, The Mightiest.......,
We will prove Pakistan to be the last fort of Islam......
AND
A place for true slaves of Prophet Muhammad pbuh utmost peace and
blessings of Allah be upon him
===================

‎"If you want to destabilize and destroy a country, all you have to do is create enmity between its people and their army".

The world-renowned Muslim Ruler "Salahuddin Ayyubi"

‫ مجھے صلیبی یلغار کی ذرا پرواہ نھیں، پریشانی تو یہ ھے کہ جنھوں نے روکنا تھا وہ شراب کے مٹکوں میں ڈوب گئے اسلام کے پاسبانوں نے اپنےآپ کو حرم میں قید کر لیا اور عورتوں کی زلفیں انکے پاؤں کی زنجیر بن گئ*الفاتح*القدس​

(صلاح الدین ایو بی)‬
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Bhai sahib ! Hamein wo revolver wapis la do jo General Niazi ne General Arora ke agay dal dee tee.Kahaniya mat sonao. 2 takey ka hindo hamein her dosri bat mein woh revolver yad delata hay.Tujhe Plot leney , banglow banane ,presidency per qabza kerney se fursat milegi to sultan Slahudin Ayubi banogay.abhi tak to hamein gay ayub khan, gay yahya khan ,gay zia ul mardood aor gay musharaf se wasta para hay.Ayub khan ne kashmir de diya ,yahya ne bangal ,zia ne siachin aor musharaf ne kargil .Malom nahi General Kiyani sirf Baluchistan deney per ektefa karengay ya porey mulk ko gorey ke hawaley kerangay.

 

[saliaz]

iss qadar shoq k apne watan kee izat se bhee barham hai..... tha eh jo pakisani aaj pakisan kee afwaj se barbham hai

Dear Zubair12345,

Dunya main wohi log ye nations successful hain job sab se pehle apna ya country ka accountability karna janti hain. Aap ko itna dukhi yaa udaas honey ki zaroorat nahi kion ke ye criticism hamare hi faide ke liye hai. Ye acha hai ke ghar main accountability hoo jaye or apne kirdar ko thek kar liya jaye rather then international court main khara hona parey.

Apni Ego ko itna buland naa karey ke jhukne ke bajaye toot jai.

Hum sab bas apne mulk ki respect chahte hain,,, bilkul aap ki tarha.

Allah aap ko sahi sochne aur samjhne ki tofiq de!

wsalam

 

[A.Ali.T]

One thing is clear after reading these posts, that "We love to hate" weather its institutions or personalities.

 

[saliaz]

One thing is clear after reading these posts, that "We love to hate" weather its institutions or personalities.

Ali Bhai,

You have to understand that people are extremely frustrated weather in Pakistan or living abroad.

Recent incidents ney fauj ki competency ko expose Kia hai. Kia hum sawal bhi na karain?
Aakhir aisi kon si Qayamat aa gaye agar logon ne do sawal kar liye? And I can assure you despite all this criticism log phir bhi fauj ka saath dain ge jaisa pehly East Pakistan lose karne ke baad diya.

Just notice aik dafa bhi Army Officer Sb. ney afsoos ya apologies nahi kiya agar bura manaya to sawal karne ko sirf.

 

[onlykami]

BUT k baad sab jazbati batain jo hum pichlay 60 salon say suntay arahay hain, aur han salahuddin ki batain hamain na sunao army ko sunao yeh enmity wo phela rahay hain hum nahi, aur han army ko yeh paigham de dena agar hamaray dilon per raj karna hai tu jo BUT k baaad jo likha hai usay practically kar k dikhao ........

 

[Scorpion]

اف میرے خدا اتنی نفرت ۔۔۔۔۔۔ افسوس دشمن کامیاب ہو گیا ۔۔۔۔۔ لیکن ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔!!!!! اگر جنگ ہوئی تو کیا سرحد پر ہم لڑیں گے دشمن سے ۔۔۔۔۔ کیا ہم میں اتنی صلاحیت ہے کہ ایم ایم عالم، راشد مہناس، اور ان تمام شہیدوں کی طرح لڑ سکیں ۔۔۔؟؟؟ یا صرف ہم زبان زیادہ اچھی ہلا سکتے ہیں ۔۔۔۔؟؟؟؟؟​

Dear,

Allahamdulillah I am capable enough to fight my enemies . . . . The enemies of Pakistan . . . . .

And you are capable enough of using your tongue . . . . Is that true

 

[Scorpion]

i think one scorpion still left they have slaughter 1000 no problem they can kill few in this forum.

Zubair,

Try this one . . . . You kill it a thousand times and it will again rise from the ashes . . . . Any way thanks for crying, as you felt the pain of its sting . . .

 

[atifsharif]

Only one question .......


Aap ne pakistan mother land ki hafazat ki kasam khayi hay to jab koi general hamari is motherland ke sath ziadati kare kisi ka ghulam ban ke ise bechne ki kooshish kare to phir is sar zameen e pakistan ke pur azam jawan kiyoon so jate hain ????

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hate me ........,
blame me for everything........,
call me a slave of america .........,
nick me as "duffer" .........,
blame me for the incompetence of the government & some corrupt generals :angry_smile:,
..... But.....
i will always love you.....,
because i have taken oath to defend you......,
defend my country......,
defend my motherland.......,
defend my nation .......,
...no matter what ...
by god.......,
we passionately wish to sacrifice our lives for pakistan's honor at all times...,
by god......,
we will defend pakistan till our last drop of blood.......,
by god.....,
pakistan will not fall down till the last soldier of pakistan army is alive.....,
by allah......, the mightiest.......,
we will prove pakistan to be the last fort of islam......
And
a place for true slaves of prophet muhammad pbuh utmost peace and
blessings of allah be upon him
===================

‎"if you want to destabilize and destroy a country, all you have to do is create enmity between its people and their army".

the world-renowned muslim ruler "salahuddin ayyubi"

‫ مجھے صلیبی یلغار کی ذرا پرواہ نھیں، پریشانی تو یہ ھے کہ جنھوں نے روکنا تھا وہ شراب کے مٹکوں میں ڈوب گئے اسلام کے پاسبانوں نے اپنےآپ کو حرم میں قید کر لیا اور عورتوں کی زلفیں انکے پاؤں کی زنجیر بن گئ*الفاتح*القدس​

(صلاح الدین ایو بی)‬
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[shaheer]

i wonder how every body hates army!blaming them 4 involvement in politics.i hv some points can someone answer with logic.
1-army is the only established institute in pakistan & their core purpose is to defend the country from any threat (inside n outside).if govt is fail,people hate them & they are not doing any change themselves so which institute should come up & do something????army?supreme court?police? except army no one can do that.
2-army takeover when govt is fail & become unpopular and still want to carry on.i think just politicians are to blame for it.if u look at current govt...i dont need to explain...these all were crying for democracy,they got it.all major parties are in power.they knew that if they would not perform,army threat would b there.tell me ONE SINGLE GOOD THING THEY HAVE DONE?DO THESE PEOPLE DESERVE TO B IN POWER?DESPITE ALL THE FAILURES THEY STILL WANT TO CONTINUE & THEY ARE SAYING THEY ARE DOING GOOD JOB.i m supporting army to takeover but have these political parties learned anything????army is to answer to president/pm.if your juniors are taking over u thats mean you are not capable to manage those.if gilani/zardari cant manage army,cant deliver on other fronts Dthey should resign & let someone else do the job.rather than crying on tv that army is a threat for democracy n govt.they are corrupt n want to gain sympathy.
3-WHY PM SAID THAT ARMY WILL DECIDE WHEN THEY WILL DO THE OPERATION IN SOUTH WAZIRISTAN???this decision must b political.
4-WAHY GOVT(PRESIDENT+PM) ALLOWS ARMY CHIEF OR DG ISI TO MEET NATO & AMERICAN OFFICIALS AT THEIR OWN??
plz stop criticising army.CAST YOUR VOTE,MOTIVATE & EDUCATE PEOPLE TO VOTE,BRING SOME HONEST,SINCERE,CAPABLE PEOPLE IN POWER,EVERYTHING WOULD B FINE.OTHERWISE ENEMIES ARE SUCCEEDING THROUGH US.

 

[PkRevolution]

Dear Zubair12345,

Dunya main wohi log ye nations successful hain job sab se pehle apna ya country ka accountability karna janti hain. Aap ko itna dukhi yaa udaas honey ki zaroorat nahi kion ke ye criticism hamare hi faide ke liye hai. Ye acha hai ke ghar main accountability hoo jaye or apne kirdar ko thek kar liya jaye rather then international court main khara hona parey.

Apni Ego ko itna buland naa karey ke jhukne ke bajaye toot jai.

Hum sab bas apne mulk ki respect chahte hain,,, bilkul aap ki tarha.

Allah aap ko sahi sochne aur samjhne ki tofiq de!

wsalam

Brother Saliaz,

Meri Allah se dua he ko wo Aap samet sab ko sahi samajhne or sochne ki salahiat de. AAmin