Marriage of syed Girl with non syed boy

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hassan.te

Minister (2k+ posts)
as per my experience in our soceity, its absoleutely not allow

it happened to me, I am Not syed, and the gril was syed. They refused me bcoz of I am not syed. Its true story and happened to me

so if you asked me, its very common in our soceity

Why, nobody know what is syed or what is not syed, its just a tradition or culture or listen from their parents. many things in our soceity based on illeteracy in islam

Personaly, I dont beleived in this but this exist in our soceity and we should accept this as a reality


if u were not able to marry a syed woman than it doesnt mean that its not allowed. Its 100% allowed in Islam. There is not at all any restriction. and as u said such things are man made and custom made. it have nothing to do with islam to marry into non-syed or not... its ones own decision and bitter reality of our society
 
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Pakistani1947

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In Islam the Status is based on "Taqwa" not based on relationship with anybody

In Islam the Status is based on "Taqwa" not based on relationship with anybody:

'A'isha, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), reported that the Quraish were concerned about the woman who had committed theft during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), in the expedition of Victory (of Mecca). They said: Who would speak to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) about her? They (again) said: Who can dare do this but Usama b Zaid, the loved one of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him)? She was brought to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and Usama b. Zaid spoke about her to him (interceded on her behalf). The colour of the face of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) changed, and he said: Do you intercede in one of the prescribed punishments of Allah? He (Usama) said: 'Messenger of Allah, seek forgiveness for me. When it was dusk. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) stood up and gave an address. He (first) glorified Allah as He deserves, and then said: Now to our topic. This (injustice) destroyed those before you that when any one of (high) rank committed theft among them, they spared him, and when any weak one among them committed theft, they inflicted the prescribed punishment upon him. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, even if Fatima daughter of Muhammad were to commit theft, I would have cut off her hand. He (the Holy Prophet) then commanded about that woman who had committed theft, and her hand was cut off. 'A'isha (further) said: Hers was a good respentance, and she later on married and used to come to me after that, and I conveyed her needs (and problems) to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). [Sahih Muslim, Book# 017, Hadeeth# 4188]
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The Last Sermon of Prophet Muhammad pbuh

This sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul Hijjah 10 A.H. in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat' (in Mecca).

After praising, and thanking God he said:

"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and take these words to those who could not be present here today.

O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds. God has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity. God has judged that there shall be no interest and that all the interest due to Abbas ibn 'Abd'al Muttalib (Prophet's uncle) shall henceforth be waived...

Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.

O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under God's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.

O People, listen to me in earnest, worship God, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before God and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.
O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and my example, the Sunnah and if you follow these you will never go astray.

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O God, that I have conveyed your message to your people".
 

ALI ARYAN

Senator (1k+ posts)
Ho Sakti hai. Islam mei zat pat ki koi pabanadi nahin, Soom O Salat, Sharaye Taqazon ko Jannay walay or deen se qareeb hona sab se aham hai. cahay yeh baten kisi syed mei hoon ya gher syed mei hoon.
 

Reehab

Councller (250+ posts)
Aslama alekum wr wb.
pahle bat yeh sayed kon hien kiya sayed sirf india and pakistan me paye jate hien arab me jahan hazoor PBUH ke pedaiesh howe us ke bad un ke koye nariyna olad nahi the hazrat bibi Fatima RA ke oaldaon me se bhi ziyda tar karbala me shaheed ho gaye the us ke bad konsi nasal chali. ayahan arab me koye sayed nahi to yeh paksitan me kon agye . yakeen jano me nahi manta essy saydon ko non arabic is simple is ajmi not syed aru syed mean english me Mr. urdu me hazrat bue yeh matlab he .
mind na karna yeh mere apni soch he
ab reh gaya shahdi ka masla to islam me koye kaied nahi he islam me sirf insan ka qoul fail us ke iman dekah jaye phir us ke sath shadi ke jaye.. jis ko nabi PAK PBUH ne mana nahi kiya hum kon hote hien.. yeh sirf tradation he jesy pak aru hind me aam he hindo ko dekh kar woh log zaat pat me bate hien wohi hum ne apna liya just for tradation
 

Reehab

Councller (250+ posts)
Syed Or Non Syed Shadi hosakti hai..

Magar ek non muslim tabqa bhi apny apko syed kehalwanay ki koshish karta hai os say nikah haram umeed hai app os tabqay ko janty hongay..

yahe to almiya he hamara. khier un se to shadi biqul bhi jayez nahi he cahye woh syed hoon ya bhangi ..
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
The question is marrying syed with non-syed and vice versa. It is all about marrying in different
castes, professions, and titles holders. The formation of the society is on a very Hippocratic and
Pharon's thoery. Perhaps people may be aware that profession-dependent caste system was
prevalent at the time of Noah (as) and perhaps Noah(as) was the prophet who came after
Adam(as). So in way, this meance was always there. The very reason, as per Quran,
for drowning all those who were on the earth was their sticking to Caste and
grading and grading system. Then it was Pharon who made it as institutionalised way
to create and maintain casts. He even went to the extent of pointing finger towards
Musa(as) that he is a Kami or his nation is our Kamis. So in one way or the other
this mentality existed in human perspective. Allah(SWT) strictkly forbade it and
punished severely those people who were patronizing it. Perhaps the time has
also come that the same "Sunnat Allah" is going to be repeated in our society also.
Where people do not respect humanity. Marraying in different profession family
is another thing, they even do not tolerate them as human and hiddenly and
secretly made their life miserable.

This "SYED, SADDAT FASHION" is only self made. I do not wish to
quote Quran because then many so-called and self-claimed Syeds and
Saddat will be angry. Everyone is born in the same process with the
union of two "beings", everyone goes to a place where he/she exports
the same stuff. Everyone hails from Adam and Eve and then
from those "Arzaloon(KAMI)" who were on the boat of Noah. So
no big deal.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Bhai Most Wanted,

Shadi is good to do with any muslim, but dont do any thing else.
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
This is what Kharaji's have done to our nation.

Kharji's were not present at the time of Noah or Musa (as) and nor
at the time when this religion Islam was completed.......... that
phenomenon came much latter stage, when there was
tussel to rule?
 

Newt0n

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
It is not allowed... Syed's shud b married with Syed's only...

those who disagree must b killed...
 

w-a-n-t-e-d-

Minister (2k+ posts)
yahe to almiya he hamara. khier un se to shadi biqul bhi jayez nahi he cahye woh syed hoon ya bhangi ..

jI REHAAB BHAI SYEDUL SOHADA HAZRAT IMAM HASSAN RZ OR SYEDNA HUSSAIN RZ K QATIL BHI APNY APKO SYED KEHTAY HAIN
UNSAY NIKKAH HARAM HAI..

WO TU WAYSAY BHI MUTTAH(ZINNA) KA QAEL LOG HAIN ..

musalmano ka unsay aqed karna haram hai
 

Newt0n

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@Canadian & BABADEENA--------------- bhaio 3 din may itnay logo nay mujay waajib ul qatl kaha hay, mera b dil karta hay kisi per yeh fatwa thoku... so thok dia!! :-)
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
brother you also have to explain, are u talking about the true shia sadaat or you talking about seelf prolaimed who were hashami, then changed into Qurashi and finally became fake syed?

There may be many fake syeds fake khans fake chaudhries fake mailks etc. but that was not the question.We are not discussing who are syeds.
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Bhai yeh kia aik aur shoosha choor dia hai ?? Allah sey dua mango key woh iss Qoum pey rahm karey.Kuon mazhab ko bahatar firqon mein taqseem kar rahey ho.

Agar merey haatho mazhab ne bahatr firko me takseem hona he to me khudkushi kr leta ho kia phir 72 firko vali baat jhooti ho jaey gee???

Bro koiee sawal krney se koiee divide nhi hota me aik masley pe raey le raha hoon mere khial me is se koiee firkey ki baat nhi hotee.
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
yahan sayed hee nahi, ghuman, waraich, rajpoot, malik, chaudhary blah blah blah... are not allowed to marry with other cast people... my friends grandfather married with non-rajput woman, his family is considered fake rajput.
My uncle married low cast women, he was expelled from family by grandfather.... its our society... but I think its changing..

thats another issue and no one relates that to religion.
My question was regarding Islam is it allowed or not.If not then why???
 
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samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Salam brothers n sisters

A child or family is known by father n father's family. Family or child is never known by mother or mother's family. So my question is that our holy prophet Muhammad (SAW) has no male children. And if you agree about what I said then why the people say that they are syeds ( means from the family of prophet). Didn't want to hurt anybody's feelings.

I think you have no idea about the word syed so plz stay out of discussion if you dont have some knowledge to discuss.

by the way thats not our discussion.
 
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