Man against Minarates of Mosques (Swiss), has Embraced ISLAM

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
gazoomartian said:
salam all

An Indian Muslim has told me that the main driving force behind the desecration of the Babri mosque was a Hindu man, who went to work in Sharja and accepted Islam.

does anyone know if its true and do you have any docuemnts support this fact??

please share with me

MAin reason is same what you guys cribbing in case of Bait-ul-mosque in palestine..
Some invader came and desecrated hindu sheet of worship and that has to be undone..

Even today there exists a mosque on the ruins oftemple in Varanazi called gyanwapi mosque.. That mosque has hindu gods pictures carved on to tis walls.. now you know why is that.. I am pretty sure muslim rulers don;t use hindu gods for their mosques.. as was the trend in Aurangjeb's time yet another temple was appropriated as mosque..

Just ask yourself what will you do if god forbid some invader turns your holiest site into their own by force..

rest of he said she said is just garbage
 

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
foqia khan said:
adonis_look":624lyghh] Keeping thsi in mind chrstian are still leaving muslims behind in thsi sports of proselytization.. for instance in Africa alone by the admission of one Ummah leaeder millions of muslim embrace christianity..[/quote] can u plz provide a source to prove this...[/quote:624lyghh] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdVnILalpeo said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdVnILalpeo[/url]

there you go Al Zajjera asserting tat point..

According to Al-Jazeerah's interview with Sheikh Ahmad Al Katani, the president of The Companions Lighthouse for the Science of Islamic Law in Libya, In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christian
 

desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
foqia khan said:
adonis_look":r5w6m5fl] Keeping thsi in mind chrstian are still leaving muslims behind in thsi sports of proselytization.. for instance in Africa alone by the admission of one Ummah leaeder millions of muslim embrace christianity..[/quote] can u plz provide a source to prove this...[/quote:r5w6m5fl] [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdVnILalpeo[/video] [url="http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm said:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm[/url]
 

foqia khan

MPA (400+ posts)
adonis_look said:
Keeping thsi in mind chrstian are still leaving muslims behind in thsi sports of proselytization.. for instance in Africa alone by the admission of one Ummah leaeder millions of muslim embrace christianity..
adonis_look said:
there you go Al Zajjera asserting tat point..

According to Al-Jazeerah's interview with Sheikh Ahmad Al Katani, the president of The Companions Lighthouse for the Science of Islamic Law in Libya, In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christian

I have pasted the translated interview here n high lighted the parts that you missed ,that can show u people the level of your research ,who yet claim that has studied Quran n Hadith in detail n r ready to refute them.

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6 Million Muslims convert to Christianity - Al-Jazeerah !

Ahmed Katani Maher Abdallah

Maher Abdallah:
Dear viewers, peace of Allah be upon you, greetings and welcome to a new episode of the program Islamic Law and Life.

Our topic this evening will be Christianization in the Dark Continent ... Africa. For after Islam was the religion of the majority, the great majority of that continent, the number of Muslims now is no greater than a third of the population. This is taking into consideration, of course, that a large portion of this group are Arab Muslims. No doubt that the missions of evangelization and Christianization played a great role in this demographic shift of Muslims in the continent.

To discuss this topic, it is my pleasure to introduce today a man who is an expert on the issue of evangelization and Christianization in Africa, even though he will concentrate on the issue of Christianization first and foremost?. Sheikh Ahmad Al Katani; the president of The Companions Lighthouse for the Science of Islamic Law in Libya, which is an institution specializing in graduating imams and Islamic preachers.

Sheikh Ahmad, welcome to you on the program.

Ahmad Al Katani:
Greeting to you.

Maher Abdallah:
If we start by inquiring about your strict stance against the Christian missions in Africa, don?t the followers of every religion have the right to seek new converts, exactly as you train and graduate young Muslims to propagate Islam?

Ahmad Al Katani:
I seek refuge in Allah the Seer, the Knower, from the stoned devil. In the name of Allah the Merciful the Beneficent. Thanks to Allah the One, the Only, the Permanent One, who did not give birth nor was born, to whom no one was equal. I bear witness that there is no God but Allah who has no partners, and I bear witness that our master Muhammed ? Allah?s prayers and peace be upon him - is his messenger and seal of prophets; Allah prayers be upon him and his brothers the prophets and messengers and their families.

The question that you pose is a result of not comprehending the difference between the concept of Christianization and the concept of evangelism.

The concept of evangelism: is inviting the non-Christians to the Christian or Nazarene religion, and this is the right of every Christian and the right of every believer to call others to his faith. However, we are talking about a different matter; which is Christianization. Christianization means the following: preparing plans, and executing these plans and evolving these plans to change Muslims into Christians by taking advantage of the ignorance and poverty (of the people) and whatever necessitates from similar circumstances.

So, we are faced with the issue of taking advantage of circumstances, taking advantage of humanitarian needs, taking advantage of the lack of education for example, that these people (missionaries) use to take Muslims out of their religion.

Maher Abdallah:
Fine. This is a big and dangerous phrase. Taking advantage of poverty, of ignorance, of lack of education, of some need is something that a Muslim can also be accused of. So if you don?t back up what you say with examples, with references, your words remain in the air without much weight to them.

Ahmad Al Katani:
The reality is that these words say a lot less than they should. As we said in the beginning, everyone has the right to invite others to his religion; this is what is known as evangelism (or proselytizing). As for Christianization, no one has the right to take Muslims out of their religion, and you asked for references and the references are too numerous.

Islam used to represent, as you previously mentioned, Africa?s main religion and there were 30 African languages that used to be written in Arabic script. The number of Muslims in Africa has diminished to 316 million, half of whom are Arabs in North Africa. So in the section of Africa that we are talking about, the non Arab section, the number of Muslims does not exceed 150 million people. When we realize that the entire population of Africa is one billion people, we see that the number of Muslims has diminished greatly from what it was in the beginning of the last century. On the other hand, the number of Catholics has increased from one million in 1902 to 329 million 882 thousand (329,882,000). Let us round off that number to 330 million in the year 2000.

As to how that happened, well there are now 1.5 million churches whose congregations account for 46 million people. In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity. These numbers are very large indeed ?..

Maher Abdallah (interrupting):
Hold on! Let me clarify. Do we have 6 million converting from Islam to Christianity or converting from Islam and other religions?

Ahmad Al Katani:
Great (question)! The other religions are not placed on the list of Christianization; rather they are placed on the list of evangelization. The other religion in Africa is paganism; so it?s Islam, Christianity or paganism. There isn?t something similar to Asia for example where you have Buddhism or Zoroastrianism. In Africa it is just these three, so if you talk about Christianization then it targets the only other heavenly religion which is Islam. As for paganism, those people worship animals and planets and the like.

Maher Abdallah:
So 6 million Muslims a year convert?

Ahmad Al Katani:
Every year ?.. In the African nations this century a tragedy happened. Take for example what happened in Ethiopia. Ethiopia is an Arab nation and I am not saying a muslim nation. If any student looks up the word Habasha (Ethiopia) in the book Ocean Dictionary written by Al-Fairuz Abady, he will find that the word Habashat means ?people of different tribes? and this is what happened. Ethiopia was a place where Arabs from different tribes would go to live for a while. We all know that Islam entered Ethiopia before Islam entered the city of Medina. We all know that AL-Najashy (the ruler of Ethiopia) was a Muslim. It is mentioned by Al-Darkatny in his biography of the prophet ? Allah?s prayer and peace be upon him ? that during the month of Rajab in the 9th year of the Hijra (Muslim calendar) that the prophet said to his companions: ?Rise up and pray on your brother Al-Najashy.? From that year on the practice of praying on the absent was established. Therefore from the time of the prophet ? Allah?s prayer and peace be upon him ? Islam entered Ethiopia. So what has happened to Ethiopia?

What happened is that in the days of Emperor Hela Silasi who used to force Muslims to bow to the Christian, and if he refused then he was whipped 45 lashes and jailed between 2 and 5 years. In the year 1948, a massacre occurred at the hands of the Amharic tribes; the Amharic being Christians and collaborators, who continued to slaughter Muslims for 7 months and perform the most horrific acts imaginable. For example they deprived them from the most basic human rights, to the point that they mutilated the male Muslim?s reproductive organs so that no more Muslim children would be born. Ethiopia was rewarded after all these horrific acts; rewarded by being made the head quarters of the African Unity League.

Let us move to another location in Africa, let it be Nigeria. Nigeria is known by Muslims by the name of the Land of Takror. Nigeria was founded at the beginning of the last century by the British, and many Islamic sources mention it?s name as the Land of Tekror. There is even a letter by the reciter Suyuti, who died in the year 911 Hijri, where the title is: Opening the blessed request and relating the hidden openly to the questions of the people of Takror. So there was an established relationship, and they used to send questions to the scholars of Islam, so this letter (of questions) was sent from one of the sheikh scholars of Nigeria that was called Takror to the Muslim scholar AL Suyuti in Egypt and he in turn responded and the contents of this letter are published and printed and is found in the book ?The collection Islamic decrees?.

Nigeria?s population is 120 million people, 70% of whom are Muslim. In the 1960?s a British missionary came and declared that he will Christianize North Nigeria, the majority of whom are Muslim. As a result, Ahmad Banulo (from the leaders of the Msulims) was forced at the time to move him to Lagos the capital. As a result the butcher Arorese, that was present at the time, eliminated all the Muslim rulers and killed Ahmad Banulo, why? Because he merely dared to move this missionary who declared that he wishes to Christianize North Nigeria.


In another country, Zanzibar, is an Arabic African nation and I am not saying Muslim. Zanzibar was always connected to the Sultanate of Oman (in the Persian Gulf). Concerning Zanzibar, there was a priest by the name Julius Niriry, president of Tanzania, who annihilated 20,000 Muslims (male and female) with a military force lead by a chicken thief. This thief was imprisoned for being accused of stealing chickens; he was released and asked to command the military brigade that annihilated 20,000 Muslims.

Maher Abdallah:
My dear viewers welcome back to this episode where we are speaking about the topic of Christianization in the African continent and we are speaking with the Sheikh who is observing and following this issue, as each hour Islam loses just under 700 Muslims who join the Christian religion which leads us to the number of 6 million Muslims every year.

Our sir, you mentioned that there are advantages being taken of necessities: poverty, ignorance; what you mentioned then are waves of elimination, waves of religious eradication, and there is no need to call is racial eradication?.. However, let us go back to the topic necessity and exploitation. This may have all been in the past; the military expeditions that you spoke of were all in the beginning or middle of the last century, but what is happening today in regards to exploiting necessities?

Ahmad Al Katani:
What I wanted to say is that these military expeditions and wars paved the way for what we are seeing today; converting 6 million Muslims every year did not happen from nothing, but was a result of what I mentioned earlier.

As for the topic of necessity exploitation, then a nation like Somalia, whose population is 9.5 million people, are all Muslim without exception. There are no Christians or pagans. And if you did find any then they are an insignificant number that are not even on official statistics. A Belgian missionary by the name of Sabeh came to Somalia and purchased 30,000 Muslim youth, he took advantage of their parents poverty, and we all know the terrible situation that Somalia is going through now and what it went through a few years ago. This is taking advantage of a humanitarian need that any human can go through.

Maher Abdallah:
Fine! Another picture of taking advantage, this was in consideration of Somalia?s state during war; in the case of a tragedy such as poverty where people were forced to do so due to the circumstances in the area. But what about other regions, how are they doing?

Ahmad Al Katani:
Yes. In Zaire there are now half a million muslim refugees, only Muslims are subjugated to severe missions of Christianization. I am sorry to say something and I am not the first to make this point; it has been said before: the bounty of humanitarian aid that is delivered goes to the Christians, and now because of this opportunity the muslims are Christianized in Zaire.There are half a million Muslims targeted for christianiztion on a daily basis. There is a horrific absence of muslim effort in the field. There is no Arabic or muslim (missionary) presence in Africa, except on a token level, nothing productive.



I say all this to show the missionary waves that are directed at all the countries of the Islamic world in all languages. So what have we offered in response to this information. I take this opportunity brother Maher to invite all benevolent organizations to work with the goal of spreading Islam. This does not mean establishing a few embarrassing websites on the internet, but to print pamphlets in all languages, for examples, and send them to all organizations and teaching institutions around the world and prepare muslim missionaries who are prepared to spread the message of Islam around the world.

Finally brother Maher, I heard at one point that you intended to re-broadcast the program "Islamic Law and Life" that was to be translated and until now we haven?t noticed that this project has seen the light of day. I insist that it is an obligation for all satellite channels to air Islamic programs in foreign languages so that Islam can reach every spot on earth. Thank you and Allah reward you.
 
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furry87

Senator (1k+ posts)
Dont bother foqia , this guy is a total dumbass to argue with him is pointless...its probably very hard for him to come to terms with the fact that hes wrong ...all that urine cola has messed up his nervous system
 

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Wowww.. so assertion of a mullah is questioned but some dubious sites claimighn so and so has converted to islam is hailed as gospel here.. you guys do have some delusional double standard..

bottomline in this gave of conversion chrstina have left you far behind.. 1400 years and you are not even close to chrsitian herd count

Ye baja bajate raho ko so and so converted it hardly means zilch
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
adonis_look said:
Wowww.. so assertion of a mullah is questioned but some dubious sites claimighn so and so has converted to islam is hailed as gospel here.. you guys do have some delusional double standard..

bottomline in this gave of conversion chrstina have left you far behind.. 1400 years and you are not even close to chrsitian herd count

Ye baja bajate raho ko so and so converted it hardly means zilch



---You may live upto the delusions to the fullest but the eventual reality will NOT change a bit :ugeek: and people are embracing the truth as they're in huge numbers in the west and europe ( even the one's who rallied against it are embracing it) the good thing is more and more professional people :D are stepping into Islam by their extensive research into it and then coming into folds of Islam and everybody reverts for their own good by knowing the true meaning of Creator and dissociating all the wrong insinuations related to the Creator and obeying and worsihpping HIM as such :ugeek:
 

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
taul said:
adonis_look said:
Wowww.. so assertion of a mullah is questioned but some dubious sites claimighn so and so has converted to islam is hailed as gospel here.. you guys do have some delusional double standard..

bottomline in this gave of conversion chrstina have left you far behind.. 1400 years and you are not even close to chrsitian herd count

Ye baja bajate raho ko so and so converted it hardly means zilch



---You may live upto the delusions to the fullest but the eventual reality will NOT change a bit :ugeek: and people are embracing the truth as they're in huge numbers in the west and europe ( even the one's who rallied against it are embracing it) the good thing is more and more professional people :D are stepping into Islam by their extensive research into it and then coming into folds of Islam :ugeek:

Same extesvieresearch repulsed me.. to each their own
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
adonis_look said:
Same extesvieresearch repulsed me.. to each their own



--You failed to exercise the strongest muscle ( brain) properly :( coz everything starts from the basics but what to do when the very basics are completely off the track and wayward in your case :|
 

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
taul said:
adonis_look said:
Same extesvieresearch repulsed me.. to each their own



--You failed to exercise the strongest muscle ( brain) properly :( coz everything starts from the basics but what to do when the very basics are completely off the track and wayward in your case :|

Anyoen can see who uses brain and who use passion..

I have simple logic no religion can uphodl truth by bannign others that to me is telltale sign of weakest faith
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
adonis_look said:
Anyoen can see who uses brain and who use passion..


--Alhamdulillah people are using the right impulses of their brain to rationalize each and every aspect of Islam while embracing it :)


I have simple logic no religion can uphodl truth by bannign others that to me is telltale sign of weakest faith


--A person who dwells in the shadows of delusions need sometime to get the basics right :( You can NOT propagate a wrong theory such as making newton's 3rd law to be the first and vice versa on top of boasting to be 2+2 =7 :roll: it simply does NOT add up,there's Only one truth amidst all the falsehood and that needs to be propagated and upheld unless you also confuse such an integral and vital part of human salvation with some novels and businesses who try their best to sell their products to float in a competition ,apart from all the stats of muslim countries with the rest of world countries i presented earlier along with your own india,unfortunately people like you try everytime to hide from em and somehow always have such flurry of thoughts that you would NOT have to be told or face the truth in the fear of then accepting it and living life accordingly :)
 

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
taul said:
adonis_look said:
Anyoen can see who uses brain and who use passion..


--Alhamdulillah people are using the right impulses of their brain to rationalize each and every aspect of Islam while embracing it :)


I have simple logic no religion can uphodl truth by bannign others that to me is telltale sign of weakest faith


--A person who dwells in the shadows of delusions need sometime to get the basics right :( You can NOT propagate a wrong theory such as making newton's 3rd law to be the first and vice versa on top of boasting to be 2+2 =7 :roll: it simply does NOT add up,there's Only one truth amidst all the falsehood and that needs to be propagated and upheld unless you also confuse such an integral and vital part of human salvation with some novels and businesses who try their best to sell their products in the middle of a competition ,apart from all the number of total world country stats i presented earlier along with your own india,unfortunately people like you try everytime to hide from em and somehow always have such flurry of thoughts that you would NOT have to be told or face the truth in the fear of then accepting it and living life accordingly :)

Zaakis Naik nonsense logic.. 2=2 is notation and everybody agrees on 2+2=4..

even in mathematics there are theories which are not proven yet and people are allowed to have different opinions..

so to equate a proven fact to religious regurgitation where every party claims I am the truth without nary a proof in their supprot or at dubious proof in their support is stupid..

IF in 1400 years tyouo cound nto convice people abotu truth then chances are your are on sticky ground..

it certainly is nto 2+2= 4.. no religion can claim that.. it always is eh said she said..
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Indians are ever ungrateful. They have made $100millions from working in the middle east. Indian treasury is filled by Indians working in US/UK/ and mostly middle east, the very same muslims that they hate. I personally used to know 5 Indians working in the middle east: 2 in Jeddah (muslims, Hyderabad), 1 in Dubai(hindu), 1 in Sharja(unknown), 2 in Qatar (Hindu).

There 1000's more from India working mostly in IT and in engg, technologist, and labors. And still hate Islam. How ungrateful people can get

They should all pack up and leave for their cow country.

so should I anticipate they will start packing starting today? Or they rather work in MUSLIM countries and send money to their families in India??
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
furry87 said:
Dont bother foqia , this guy is a total dumbass to argue with him is pointless...its probably very hard for him to come to terms with the fact that hes wrong ...all that urine cola has messed up his nervous system

of course, they are not supposed to be rational, for 1. they are hindu, 2. they are paid employee of India to keep arguing
 

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
gazoomartian said:
furry87 said:
Dont bother foqia , this guy is a total dumbass to argue with him is pointless...its probably very hard for him to come to terms with the fact that hes wrong ...all that urine cola has messed up his nervous system

of course, they are not supposed to be rational, for 1. they are hindu, 2. they are paid employee of India to keep arguing


Seriously you are outperfomring my expectataions with words like they are nost supopsed to be logical since they are Hindu.. if this is the level of nonsense that passes off as debate then God help you
 

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
gazoomartian said:
Indians are ever ungrateful. They have made $100millions from working in the middle east. Indian treasury is filled by Indians working in US/UK/ and mostly middle east, the very same muslims that they hate. I personally used to know 5 Indians working in the middle east: 2 in Jeddah (muslims, Hyderabad), 1 in Dubai(hindu), 1 in Sharja(unknown), 2 in Qatar (Hindu).

There 1000's more from India working mostly in IT and in engg, technologist, and labors. And still hate Islam. How ungrateful people can get

They should all pack up and leave for their cow country.

so should I anticipate they will start packing starting today? Or they rather work in MUSLIM countries and send money to their families in India??

IF Indi ahd hated muslims then muslim population woudl nto have gotten HAz subsidiy in India.. muslim populatiion woud nto have gone up from 7% to 13%.. We woudl have finsihed them just like pakistan did with hindus.. You may not know but hindu population has gone from 10% to near zero percent.. enjoy your delusion meanwhile
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
IF in 1400 years tyouo cound nto convice people abotu truth then chances are your are on sticky ground..

it certainly is nto 2+2= 4.. no religion can claim that.. it always is eh said she said



---Poor you need some brush up on the latest scientific researches :) the theories of which had been already present in The Holy Quran for over 1400 years :ugeek: surprising in the process every bit of science community of such minute and precise details which could have only been possible in the past 150-200 years with the innovation of an electron microscope :ugeek: theories as big bang theory,pegging of mountains,separation of seas,formation of clouds and rain,embryological stages of human development and so on so forth,none could've ever been known at that time :ugeek:


---The challenge has been already there by the "Creator" to prove a single contradiction and inconsistency in The Holy Quran :)
 

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
taul said:
IF in 1400 years tyouo cound nto convice people abotu truth then chances are your are on sticky ground..

it certainly is nto 2+2= 4.. no religion can claim that.. it always is eh said she said



---Poor you need some brush up on the latest scientific researches :) the theories of which had been already present in The Holy Quran for over 1400 years :ugeek: surprising in the process every bit of science community of such minute and precise details which could have only been possible in the past 150-200 years with the innovation of an electron microscope :ugeek: theories as big bang theory,pegging of mountains,separation of seas,formation of clouds and rain,embryological stages of human development and so on so forth,none could've ever been known at that time :ugeek:


---The challenge has been already there by the "Creator" to prove a single contradiction and inconsistency in The Holy Quran :)

Stop acting like broken cassetet every time people point out obvious galrign gaping hole in logic you start shouting hater bla bla bla..

It's hard to find fault uin your mind others can see it right there ..
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
adonis_look said:
Stop acting like broken cassetet every time people point out obvious galrign gaping hole in logic you start shouting hater bla bla bla..

It's hard to find fault uin your mind others can see it right there ..



--This has been ya'll poor mind's misery defy the most obvious and remain stubborn deliberately on primitive era practices,right from the very basic concept of God to all that follows thereafter :cry: Reality is reality and facts are facts and everything speaks for itself,the ages old defect seems to flourish well in ya'll atrophic sulci that line ya'll brain :cry: your diatribe leaves no doubt at all about your unwillingness to embrace the truth coz it stands knocking on your door only to find the hindrance of an arrogance coupled with ignorance at it's best :)
 

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