taul said:@ adonis look
--You can run from the truth but can NOT hide :) Islam does NOT need any fakes and all those who revert do so with their own will in some cases after years and years of long research :) check out this viewtopic.php?f=22&t=16465" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/ ... -to-islam/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
adonis_look said:I have mentioend many tiems and will mention again..
Only two relgions are in this business of aggressive proselytization..
(1) Chrsitinaity
(2) Islam..
Christian are playing fair game by that what i mean is they allow muslim evangelists to start their shop in christian majority nations. whereas muslims are playing unfair game they ban ths hops of chrsitian evangelist in muslim majority ..
As far as I am concerned it's totally foolish to jump ship from one set of ludicrous b belig wrapped under one religion to another set of ludicrous belilef wrapped in another religion.
I have read Quran Hadith in detail and I tell you not in a million years any people who have inquisitive mind can convert to any religion let alone islam.. .
taul said:adonis_look said:I have mentioend many tiems and will mention again..
Only two relgions are in this business of aggressive proselytization..
(1) Chrsitinaity
(2) Islam..
Christian are playing fair game by that what i mean is they allow muslim evangelists to start their shop in christian majority nations. whereas muslims are playing unfair game they ban ths hops of chrsitian evangelist in muslim majority ..
--It's NOT about christians playing fair but more of the mindset they have themselves allowed to follow i.e "Separation of church and state" and Allah (SWT) knows best of all to come and is the best of Planners and has laid out such a foundation that even christians do NOT have any control on they themselves opted for such a system to be applied only for the huge number of their own people living in their countries ending up embracing Islam :) whereas there are more than 10 million ( this number has gone much higher) christians in egypt,such a large number in a muslim country says all about their evangelical activities as well a small number of those unfortunate one's who leave folds of Islam.
As far as I am concerned it's totally foolish to jump ship from one set of ludicrous b belig wrapped under one religion to another set of ludicrous belilef wrapped in another religion.
--This universe and all the things existing,none of em ever came to it's existence by itself :) this simply does NOT even apply to the world you and I live in,to understand anything atleast embrace an idea that can be even applied in theory and practical in this world.
adonis_look said:So when you practice double standard that is sanctioned by allah but God forbid others do you start cryign wolf
I will let you enjoy the nonsense.
it's hard to debate with closed mind.. no I don;t see chrstians putting sanction on other religion because they have bigegr faiht in their scripture than muslims . it;s as simple as that.. Only insecure people hide behidn sanctions on others while enjoy the freedom for themselves.. And yet turn around claim look I win .
As I said before both side must play on same pitch with same ball to claim superiority based on victory in the match.. unles that happens this match loses all its meaning
taul said:it's hard to debate with closed mind.. no I don;t see chrstians putting sanction on other religion because they have bigegr faiht in their scripture than muslims . it;s as simple as that.. Only insecure people hide behidn sanctions on others while enjoy the freedom for themselves.. And yet turn around claim look I win .
--Stand true of you being unable to even swallow the basics first of the very nature of existence :) and then jumping onto topics that are far reach of your trivial mind.You mean to say if Christianity ( though you being an atheist favoring yet again a false theology) is allowed freely ( as per your thinking) to be preached in an Islamic country then the equation would in anyway change,it never ever will since the formula is itself provided by the Creator and what's being practiced in the west is a perfect practice to balance out the equation in making the falsehood perish :)
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As I said before both side must play on same pitch with same ball to claim superiority based on victory in the match.. unles that happens this match loses all its meaning
adonis_look said:Another litany of nonsense.. There was turht in world even before iSLma and there will be evn after Islam.. Those who can;t see this basic fact are delusional.> In order to save their delusion they need religious sanction..
Truth doesn't need sanction.. truth needs nothign to fear..
The day you realize this you willssee the folly of keepign the flocks together on sword point..
To me it's ludicrous to have provision of "Mutad ki saza maut hai" and then shout look I am repository of truth.. if you were repository fo truth you will nto need sanctions and aposatcy laws.
I know your mind is little too drunk on arrogance of I alone am true btu keep trying one day you will see the light
niazi said:@adonis
u said
I have read Quran Hadith in detail and I tell you not in a million years any people who have inquisitive mind can convert to any religion let alone islam.. ..
THE SECOND CHAPTER OF HOLY QURAN START WITH A VERSE THAT SAYS THIER IS NO DOUBT IN THIS BOOK,ITS GUIDANCE FOR THOSE WHO WANT GUIDANCE ,GUIDANCE FOR THOSE WHO FEAR GOD ,GUIDANCE FOR THOSE WHO DONT WANT TO EARN GODS ANGER,IT IS GUIDACE FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO LIVE HIS LIFE AS A GODS SERVANT ,CLEARLY THIS MEANS IF U ARE READING QURAN TO FIND ANY OBJECTIONABLE PONT IN IT OR U READ QURAN TO GET REFERECE OF SHOWING UR HATE FOR MUSLIMS AS U DONT WANT TO GET OR SEARCH FOR TRUTH ALLAH WILL NEVER GIVE U THIS GIFT OF ACCEPTANCE AS LONG AS U DONT WANT IT,ITS NOT SOME THING THAT CAN BE INJECTED IN UR BRAIN .ALLAH HAS GIVEN US FREE WILL ITS UP TO U TO CHOOSE RIGHT WAY OR MAKE FALSE GODS ,U CAN PRAY TO MONKEYS,RATS ,COWS ELEPHANTS AND SNAKES ,ALLAH WONT STOP U BUT HE WILL ASK ONCE U WILL GO BACK TO HIM ,ABOUT HOW MUCH STRUGGLE U HAVE MADE IN UR LIFE TO FIND TRUTH.
taul said:@ adonis look
--You can run from the truth but can NOT hide :) Islam does NOT need any fakes and all those who revert do so with their own will in some cases after years and years of long research :) check out this viewtopic.php?f=22&t=16465" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2009/ ... -to-islam/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So you are asking me I should just accept whatever is written there.> thanks btu no thaksn I have got soemthign caleld brain and I question everything..
can u plz provide a source to prove this...adonis_look said:Keeping thsi in mind chrstian are still leaving muslims behind in thsi sports of proselytization.. for instance in Africa alone by the admission of one Ummah leaeder millions of muslim embrace christianity..
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