Kharotabad Incident-Is it the Other Side of the Picture?

[Wadaich]

na brother wadaich.. kal se har check post pe laga hua soldier aur police man anjaan banday ko door se dekh kr goli maar de .. aur agar koi bechara kaan se bahra budha ho chotay bachon k sath wo to samajh le k paksitan jana iss tarha hay jis tarha kisi koh-e-himalya ser karna.. zinda bach gaya to kismat warna dunia ki zindagi se azadi to hamari forces ne dilnay ka thaika uthaya hua hay.. chotay sheer khuwar bachon k saath khudkush hamla to krnay aye thy wo log.. dunia bhai ki imdaad kha gaye yeh forces lakin in k commanders ko kabhi itni tofeeq nahi hoi k aisay alaat muhayya kiye jayen inn soldiers ko jo door se achay buray ki pahchan kar sakain k kon masoom hay aur kon khudkush bambaar... rahm karo yaar is mulk pe.. banda maar dia k..t..t..a maar dia aik barabar.... shoot on sight.. hr us banday ko jo ajnabi nazar aye forces ko haq hay k maar do saalon ko... yehi saza hay ghareeb ki

My Dear Malik Sahib.
Your concerns are genuine and humanitarian. But are the conditions normal? It is an open and undeclared war. Sanity must prevail even in this state of affairs. But when U don't know from which the side bullet will make a hole in your body, such sad incidents happen. Even the NATO forces with the latest surveillance equipment do commit blunders and declare it friendly fire. I am by no means justifying the brutal killing, but things must be taken in the context.

 

[cefspan]

what if they were getting training to fight in Chechnia???

Superb , What if they where here as refugees>

wHAT IF they were innocents????

 

[EniGma90]

I watched that video yesterday but didn't have dare to share it, because of trust deficit on our LEA forces but it is highly doubtful that they are terrorist because if some one is shooting AK-47, it doesn't mean that he is a terrorist, but that pregnant lady??
Man leave that matter to ALLAh Talla, HE will take care of the situation..

 

[Truth_Hurts]

pakistan anay ka sab ko shok hay is sliy ek is smulk ko islam ka qila kaha jata hay.... ....

Hahaha are you serious.. pakistan main aney ka shok hai logo ko? aur pakistan ko islam ka qila kaha jata hai? wake up buddy no one wants to go to pakistan not even paksitan. they are scared to go to paksitan although their families live there.. aur pakistan na kabhi islam ka qila tha na hai.. pakistan main na kabhi koi cheez islami tareqey sey hoi hai na ho rahi hai na koi aisa aalim hai jo is ko kar sakey.. sab apni groups bana kar aik dosrey sey lar rahey hain aur tum os ko islam ka qila kah rahey ho... kon hai islam ka qila ka imam? shia ya suni? bralevi ya deobandi? taliban ya khatme nabuwat.. ye sarey dahshat gard hai jo aik dosrey ko mar rahey hain. spiah sahaba, jaishey mohammad ye kia hai? islam ka qila? astagfarullah aisey islam par kyon key ye islam mere pyari nabi Muhammad pbuh ka nahi tha.. agar tumhra ye islam hai to tum is ko rakho main to apni nabi key islam ko rakhon ga

 

[Malik495]

My Dear Malik Sahib.
Your concerns are genuine and humanitarian. But are the conditions normal? It is an open and undeclared war. Sanity must prevail even in this state of affairs. But when U don't know from which the side bullet will make a hole in your body, such sad incidents happen. Even the NATO forces with the latest surveillance equipment do commit blunders and declare it friendly fire. I am by no means justifying the brutal killing, but things must be taken in the context.

doesnt matter wadaich brother ..... human life is still precious... if you have enemies like that then you have to takle them within your limits...if a suicider kills innocent people and in retaliation security forces r doing the same then whats the difference b/w them... masoom ki jaan lena chahay kisi bhi halat men us ka gunah aik jasa hi hota hay aur zulm ko zulm se nahi mitaya jaata....
highly sophisticated equipment se iss kisam ki buht se casulaities se bacha ja sakta hay wo aur baat hay k hamaray haan security forces ki goli nihattay logon pr chalti hay jis k paas gun ho na to mehran base men ghuss kr maar k jatay hen bhai mere in becharay ghareeb logon ki tarha hath utha utha k rahm ki appeal nahi krty.... zulm ko zulm se mitao gay to badlay men aman ki khuwahish rakhna kahan ka insaaf hay...

 

[Malik495]

Hahaha are you serious.. pakistan main aney ka shok hai logo ko? aur pakistan ko islam ka qila kaha jata hai? wake up buddy no one wants to go to pakistan not even paksitan. they are scared to go to paksitan although their families live there.. aur pakistan na kabhi islam ka qila tha na hai.. pakistan main na kabhi koi cheez islami tareqey sey hoi hai na ho rahi hai na koi aisa aalim hai jo is ko kar sakey.. sab apni groups bana kar aik dosrey sey lar rahey hain aur tum os ko islam ka qila kah rahey ho... kon hai islam ka qila ka imam? shia ya suni? bralevi ya deobandi? taliban ya khatme nabuwat.. ye sarey dahshat gard hai jo aik dosrey ko mar rahey hain. spiah sahaba, jaishey mohammad ye kia hai? islam ka qila? astagfarullah aisey islam par kyon key ye islam mere pyari nabi Muhammad pbuh ka nahi tha.. agar tumhra ye islam hai to tum is ko rakho main to apni nabi key islam ko rakhon ga

brother main ne yeh nahi kaha k islam ka qila hay...main na kaha k kahlata hay....asal men mashoor hay k islam k naam pr bana hay .. hona na hona yeh dosri baat hay main ne agay define kia hay k yeh choron thagon ki amaajgah hay jahan ghareeb zulm sahta hay aur ameer ayashi k sab record tore deta hay.....insani jaan yun hay jasay kisi ne gali ka ..k.u..t..t..a maar dia... islam k qilay men to bhai ghair muslim bhi mahfooz rahty hen hamaray pak men to muslamaan izzatain bachanay men masroof hain..

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

those people who don't believe first clip on this thread .Are they able to find answers for following questions. please help to find answers. i need answers in right manner. no argument need correct/accorat answer to question.

-dose any body able find their purpose/reason of visiting Pakistan.
-dose they visiting someone in that area.whom they were guests.
-are they were refuges in Pakistan.
-who was/were their sponsor in Pakistan.
-had they enter Pakistan legally or illegally.

NOTE : their or anybody's killing is not right thing to do.my emotions are same for all innocents killed. i don't want let anyone to play with my emotions do you want.

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

thank you brother wadaich, for post this very important clip. image if they had able to cross these all check points and reach to their target/point and then in those other countries, their police got all these videos & information then think all blame come on Pakistan for training.

if these information are right then I am very thankful of Allah for saving Pakistan new big blame or reason to attack on Pakistan. my feeling from first day was they enter by human transporters .

Does media make too much fuss and damage the national interest in a race to be faithful to the masters?

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

holding Russian Passports and refugees in Pakistan. refugees on which basis. they can easily take refugees in Europe on Russian passports. only one thing they can't get in Europe is these training.

Superb , What if they where here as refugees>

wHAT IF they were innocents????

 

[haqiqat]

also if you see the visa page of iran it was a expired visa the validity of iran visa expired in 2010 on this people passport so there was something fishy

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

yes that is also a point. and think as reporter saying they were planing to enter iran and do some terrorist activities then what would relation will left between iran & pakistan. we overseas pakistani are trying to better image of pakistan but we get because to these kind of activities.

also if you see the visa page of iran it was a expired visa the validity of iran visa expired in 2010 on this people passport so there was something fishy

 

[zeeshan.eme]

whatever is this. when they were killed, they were unarmed. does any law of the world allow this? does islam allow this?

Yes, American Law Allows this ...

 

[zeeshan.eme]

And who is investigating ... same who killed them

So, who else will come for investigation???

 

[thriller]

whatever is this. when they were killed, they were unarmed. does any law of the world allow this? does islam allow this?

Those who got killed in mosques, Data Darbar etc. were also unarmed. Terrorists have been bombing and killing innocent people and we are still stuck to what is permitted and what is not.
If forces kill somebody, we argue that s/he was unarmed, innocent. And when some terrorist attacks people, then we blame that our forces are incapable and not performing the duty.
Security forces have to be aggressive and people should accept it accordingly.

Fe aman Allah

 

[Nice2MU]

What a strange terrorists who brought a pregnant woman of 7 months for training in Waziristan? What a joke....?

Basically this news is old and was telecast on 2nd June 2011 (one day before budget on 3rd June) , when everyone was considering them as Terrorists and Police & Rangers were near to get "Rewards" for killings those "Terrorists". But in the last 12 days a lot of things have been changed.

If it would true and Police & Rangers were innocents, then what about the driver's statement who said that they had no weapons or bombs.

If it would true and Police & Rangers were innocents, then what about the the harassment and arrest of the cameraman by Police yesterday.

If it would true and Police & Rangers were innocents, then what about the beating up of that Doctor who did the postmartam of those alleged terrorists?

Dr Wariach: There are many questions to answer, so please don't try to defend Army (& other security forces) like Zaid Hamid does.

 

[adnan_younus]

there was a big distance; and there was no reason was indiscriminate firing; even if they were terrorists there cud have been lealds to other plans

 

[adnan_younus]

may be there was a plan to send them to iran for terrorism and where will the **** drop.. pakistan

 

[ssali]

آب کہاں ہے جیو کنجر سکیورٹی فورس کا کوءی معاملہ ہو یا پاکستان کی سلامتی سے متعلق کوءی ایشو جیو ہمیشہ غداری کا مرتکب ہوا ہے ایسے جینلز کو تو فورا بند کر دینا چاہیے جو امریکہ اور انڈیا کی فنڈنگز پر چل رہا ہو اور جس کو ملک کے معاملات کا بھی کوءی پاس نہ ہو جیو کنجر بلکہ مرو کنجر

 

[FaisalKh]

Were they too innocent to know that situation in the area they were in is highly volatile and under tribulation? Have U ever been on duty on a security check post? Have U ever gone through the psychological situation a personnel on duty is facing while anything could happen on checking and unarmed person? And where apparently unarmed fellow turns out to be a suicide bomber on check up and blows the things out?

Sorry brother if u see the old post it was for other brother u quoted and i wanted to reply to him with the video... sorry for inconvenience.... :jazak:

 

[FaisalKh]

Khuda ka khauf karo yaar .. ghareeb miskeen log bay ghar aur aafat zada ilaakon se anay walay yeh muhajir aman ki talash men maaray maaray phirty hain pakistan anay ka sab ko shok hay is sliy ek is smulk ko islam ka qila kaha jata hay.... lakin yeh log bholl gaye yeh mulk zaalimon thagon kameeno aur apnay aap ko sab se aala musalmaam maanany walay tabkay ka mulk hay.. jahan shareef wo hay jisay moka nahi mila...
kion Allah k azab ko dawat denay pr tulay hoye hen ham log .....

Just a reply to ur post as i dont know who was right and who was wrong only ALLAH (SWT) has knowledge and He is the best judge... this guy was also unarmed and innocent and look what he did .... u need to keep urself in place of those who are serving the country... plz imagine about this security guard for a while... he was also someone's father/son/brother... even u will be scared and suspicious of ur surrounding most of the time when u walk in the terror hit areas (at least i was)... u might have seen but plz watch this video again...

ALLAH (SWT) knows best...