KARACHI: NA-252 - MQM Rigging !

vote4pti

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: NO RIGGING AT ALL - Koi Rigging Nahi Hui Yaar - Prove Here - Show Evidences Here

Bhai 80 saala dolhay ki 19 sala dulhan jo harktain karskti hay mqm wohi kar rhi hay aur baba fakhru kisi aur ki aulad ko apnay seenay say laga kr chummian day rhay hayn

hahahaha!

shame!
 

Lil'Genius

Minister (2k+ posts)
Might is right in Pakistan.
The nation need to go out and capture Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, Quetta and Peshawar as the ballets are not working.
This Fakhro Jimmy has to be hanged in front of ECP office for his bias practices.

Yes PTI have powerful youth street power but we have to use it wisely.
 

Zulfi Khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PTI has the support of the youth but the youth can not get over the criminals and hooligans.
May Allah Protect all the PTI Supporters from terrorists in the whole Pakistan!
 

vote4pti

Minister (2k+ posts)
All these video evidence should be compiled at one place.....

Yes I guess people are working on it.

KOI RIGGING NAHI HUI - No Rigging At All

Do You Have Proof(s) / Evidence(s)? Post Here!


These were most free & fair elections in the history of Pakistan. Please change meanings of words 'Free' & 'Fair', buy new dictionary, hahahaha.

Spread the videos and spread the link to all other. So that world knows, what happened in karachi...

Every Patriot pakistani should raise his voice against this rigging. Because if they don't raise their raise(due to the fact that the result came in their favor in this election) then who knows they might be crying in the next elections due to rigging even if they perform good in the 5 years of government(They might loose due to rigging in the next election). So raise your voice to stop rigging and bring forward only the leaders who are voted genuinely.

Elections in Karachi were the most rigged elections in the History of Pakistan.

Please post all rigging proofs/evidences/videos here (at one place):

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...y-Tired-of-Stamping-Still-PTI-Lost-in-KHI-WOW
 

Argonaut

Banned
Argonaut - Don't play to reduce focus on Punjab. This PMLN tactics to divert the attention.

PTI is addressing whole Pakistan's issues, wherein in most of the seats are in Punjab. Rigging and Gunda Gardi took place in both the Sindh and Punjab provinces in the same level and we need to get both the provinces fixed.

JI, JUP and several other parties boycotted the Karachi election. Several polling agents of parties opposed to MQM were kidnapped. There have been videos of ballot stuffing in Karachi. In many constituencies, even government polling staff was not present till late afternoon. International observers said that there have been reports of massive rigging in Karachi. Nothing of thsi sort happened in Punjab.

Still if you want to say that similar rigging happened in Punjab then you are free to do so. But I have my eyes open and do not want to say something that is a blatant lie just because my political opponents won in Punjab.
 

Lil'Genius

Minister (2k+ posts)
Lets complete what we left on 11 May 2013,
I am with Kaptaan...are you ?

imran-khan.jpg
 

bisaat

Banned
lets wind up this thread shall we?

Revisiting old thread... For all others to see what we witnessed !!!

NA256

Tribunal rejects PTI candidate’s rigging charges


our correspondents
Sunday, January 26, 2014
From Print Edition



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Karachi

The election tribunal of the city on Saturday dismissed the petition of a Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) candidate against the election result of National Assembly constituency NA-256, Karachi.

PTI candidate Zubair Khan had challenged the election result that declared Iqbal Mohammad Ali Khan of Muttahida Qaumi Movement as winner for obtaining 151,788 of the total 251,399 votes. Khan secured 69,092 votes, followed by the 10-party alliance candidate Maulana Owais Noorani (18,732 votes).

The petitioner had alleged massive rigging at various polling stations by the rival candidate and his supporters.

The tribunal, headed by Justice (retd) Zafar Ahmed Khan Sherwani, observed that Khan failed to prove rigging charges. It said a Nadra report showed 20,000 votes bogus out of the 84,748 cast at 67 polling stations, but it did not mention for whom those ballots were cast.

The tribunal observed that Nadra exceeded its mandate while submitting its report on the verification of votes through thumb impressions.

Khan has decided to move the Supreme Court against the tribunal’s rejection of his petition.

Talking to media persons, he said that soon after the results of May 11 general elections were announced he filed an objection in the Islamabad tribunal, complaining of massive rigging in his constituency, and later his petition was referred to the provincial tribunal.

After conducting several hearings, the tribunal ordered Nadra to conduct thumb verification of about 84,000 votes and transferred the petition to the Sindh tribunal.


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rainbow22

MPA (400+ posts)
Under this kind of British slave democracy this kind of riggings will happened. We have to fight this system not only one or two rigging. Honest people like Imran has no chance in the British slave democracy. Only end of this corrupt system can bring honest persons in parliament.
 

Lil'Genius

Minister (2k+ posts)
Well, Imran knows what level of rigging was done on 11th May. But he kept his silence, we kept the silence...Looks like now is the time to take revenge.
Everyone is saying that, by these protest...democracy is in danger. My Question is: After that massive rigging, is this even democracy ?

Time to get get united with all other political forces and protest against PML-N + Geo + Iftikhar
 

salaudin

Senator (1k+ posts)
There was rigging in Karachi even in 2008 but no one took any action. There has been rigging in Karachi in 2013, but no action will be taken. It was reported on TV that Chief Election Commissioner himself called Corps Commander Karachi and Army chief, requesting them to post military personnel on polling stations in karachi but they refused. Makes it pretty clear that they wanted to give MQM a free hand.

By boycotting the elections in Karachi, JI and other parties had already built momentum for re-polling throughout Karachi. But over zealous PTI supporters diverted the pressure that was building against MQM by holding dharnas in Lahore and Islamabad calling the election results there as rigged.

This gave the impression that PTI was a sore loser because polling stations in Punjab were open to media and foreign observers and no one reported serious rigging. If PTI had kept focus on Karachi where the actual rigging had taken place and had joined other parties in the demand for re-polling all over Karachi, it would have become a strong issue. But now, due to immaturity of PTI leadership, no one will take these rigging allegations seriously even in Karachi and we'll end up with re-polling only in NA 250.

abay Nooray, Lassi+Nehari+paye aik sath chara liyay hain kiya ??? lagta ha garmi dimagh par charh gaye ha tumharay !!!

Elections in Punjab were as rigged as they were in KHI. Tum Nooray hamasha chutyapay ki batain hi kartay hoo.
 

desan

President (40k+ posts)
There was rigging in Karachi even in 2008 but no one took any action. There has been rigging in Karachi in 2013, but no action will be taken. It was reported on TV that Chief Election Commissioner himself called Corps Commander Karachi and Army chief, requesting them to post military personnel on polling stations in karachi but they refused. Makes it pretty clear that they wanted to give MQM a free hand.

By boycotting the elections in Karachi, JI and other parties had already built momentum for re-polling throughout Karachi. But over zealous PTI supporters diverted the pressure that was building against MQM by holding dharnas in Lahore and Islamabad calling the election results there as rigged.

This gave the impression that PTI was a sore loser because polling stations
in Punjab were open to media and foreign observers and no one reported serious rigging. If PTI had kept focus on Karachi where the actual rigging had taken place and had joined other parties in the demand for re-polling all over Karachi, it would have become a strong issue. But now, due to immaturity of PTI leadership, no one will take these rigging allegations seriously even in Karachi and we'll end up with re-polling only in NA 250.

Maybe you are right...

However, NS and his cronies are forcing us to believe otherwise by their actions against NADRA chairman and their delaying tactics on recount...
 

Argonaut

Banned
Maybe you are right...

However, NS and his cronies are forcing us to believe otherwise by their actions against NADRA chairman and their delaying tactics on recount
...

You are absolutely right that PMLN MNAs are against recounting and vote verification by NEPRA. But this is not restricted to PMLN MNA, most winning candidates are doing that. People like Shafqat Mehmood, Sheikh Rasheed, Zain Ilahi etc have all done the same and it is PMLN losing candidates who are pressing for recounting/vote verification in these constituencies

The reason is simple, those who have already won do not want a damocles sword hanging over their head and do not want to go in a process in which they may suffer, not due to rigging but also due to technical constraints.

For example, NADRA thumb impression verification is not possible for 100% votes. The reason being the use of paper and ink. The NADRA system cannot verify 30-40% of these thumb impressions simply because these were not recorded on electronic counters.

Lets say, if NADRA verification is done in 4 constituencies where PTI lost, then 30% votes will most likely turn out to be non-verifiable. Similarly, if NADRA verification is done in 4 constituencies where PMLN lost, similarly 30% votes will be found non-verifiable. Being non-verifiable does not mean that these votes are fake, just that because of the problems in the recording format used (paper & ink) these cannot be electronically verified.

So if the purpose is really to clarify the NADRA verification problem, then PMLN's proposal of doing thumb verification on 4 seats of PTI's choice and 4 seats of PMLN's choice, was a good option. Both parties could submit a joint application to Election Commission requesting verification on these 8 seats. But seems like both parties agree on this in front of media but then do not do anything practical in this regard blaming each other.

Perhaps a solution to these allegations and counter-allegations is that a third party, maybe Supreme Court, takes notice of this and forces both PTI and PMLN to agree on joint verification on 8 seats, 4 of each party's choice. If the non verifiable votes are present in each constituency in similar proportion, it would clarify that this is a technical problem not rigging. If it is found that non-verification happens only on seats lost by PTI, then it is a sign of rigging and in that case verification can be extended to other constituencies.
 

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