adonis_look":3siz7fcz]This multi volume Jinnah papers bY Z H Zaidi a renouned scholar from Pakistan and an authority on thsi subject should be must read for every pakistani.
This will disabuse you from the vetted notions that you guys have gleaned from revisionist history that Zia-ul-haq sponsoired books fed you guys.
Excerpts from that book
(1) Jinnah saheb accepted Nawab of Junagadh's decision to accede to Pakistan against he wishes of his 95% hindu subject. Patel intervened and plebiscite followed
(2) Jinnah saheb even rejected Patel's offer of hindu majority like hyderabad ( 80% hindu 20% muslim) going to India while muslim majority like kashmir ( 60% muslim 40% hindu/buddhist) going to pakistan.. His assertion was hyderbad will remain independent while he wanted kashmir.
(3) He even encouraged nawab of Jodhpur to declare independence
Mr Jinnah was deeply concerned that one day Gandhi may sit in front of his house
(4) Same Jinnah saheb had no scruples and no respect for people's voice when he sent army to baluchistan parliament
My point being a game was on without any principle without any scruples. Certain Patel got better of him in this game. If left to Patel even Kashmir would have bene settled but incompetene Nehru intervened and we have what we have today.
Do not trust me read that multi volume seris yorself..[/quote]
Further more after becoming governor general (a figure head position) started to take powers by passing Liakat (prime minister) became chairman selecting Ministers and dismissed Bacha Khan's government. Set in motion poorly thought plans to invade Kashmir that will become the flash point after saying " Pakistan's relationship with India would be like US and Canada." liar liar
In a Pakistani documentary (Jinnah was portrayed by a British actor) a Young Jinnah is sitting in his garden contemplating and older Jinnah walks over and said" Maybe you should consider what Gandhi ji is saying" young Jinnah replies " I am concerned about Gandhi's ability to mobilize masses and one day it may work against Muslims" older Jinnah walked away impressed.
Jinnah was really concerned that one day Gandhi may sit in front of his house on a hunger strike until Mr Jinnah leaves India with other Muslims. LOL LOL. The documentary is on you tube.
By the way watch these links
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I know I know Mr Jinnah was the best statesman the world has produced[/quote:3siz7fcz]
Haha you guys are really incapable of comprehending any other point of view than you own. We never claim that he was god, we dont claim he had 4 wings or created the world. We defend him and will continue to do so because he was our father,our founder, the creator of this nation. Why does it burn you when we defend ourselves. The difference between him and us is we talk dirt without knowing anything. Your friend is talking about a book that cannot be found on the internet, it can only be bought with money and not for free. No one here tried to refute his claims, i asked him for his source so that i could read about it my self. He'd be better of to read about junagadh than Zaidi's books because he wont find them online for free. I seriously do not understand what you guys are still doing here. Further more you are cowards as you alwasy deviate the discussion away from the topic of discussion by talking about irrelevant things. I have have already started a thread about kashmir but you guys do not have any logical response other than O but the hindu extremist site said we own kashmir and pakistan sucks.
Junagadh was never acceeded to pakistan, is was going to be but the hindus intervened and we did nothing about it. Kashmir is a totally different story, you of all people red should be ashamed at the way you are behaving. You started this whole disccusion about kashmir and then could not muster up the courage to respond to me because u knew u had no logical argument. Adoonis is a person with talibans mentality he cannot back up his claims with any credible shred of evidence. Your friend is the person , who said who is USA and who is UN and we dont have to follow any resolutions that we signed in the presence of security council members. That is his logic ,that is how he reasons his beliefs. If i havnt been responding to him recently its because he is a complete idiot and i know trying to convince him would be like harder than cutting ur own leg. I have ,time after time, brought to him logical and credible evidence which is accept by the whole world not just pakistan but he jumps all my questions and starts pretending like a 4 year old, which he will do now again ,ull see. He is a child with no comprehension of world affairs or world history. He believes that wikipedia is the best source for information. Clearly a highschool dropout would have more sense. Anyhoo im sick and tired of trying to show u guys truths which the world accepts whole heartedly so good luck to all you indians here.
