It was not you who Slayed them it was I Allah who slayed them by your hands

Zain Itrat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Just Came Across This Very Interesting Video

From 3:24 to 4:32


Minister Louis Farrakhan Says:



"We will match you argument for an argument, but when our arguments don't work, to change your heart and your mind,the Holy Quran says and walk away and say PEACE, pass by nobly, cos we don't want to hurt none or our people, NONE!!!


But don't make the mistake of coming against us physically, WE WILL KILL YOU ALL...!


and remember the Quran, The Quran Says SLAY THEM!!! Where ever you find them, and when you slay them it was not you who Slayed them it was I Allah who slayed them by your hands, remember that and BE INSTRUCTED!


 
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msaeed89

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Just Came Across This Very Interesting Video

He is from Nation of Islam who are not considered to be muslims..
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
The main belief of the NOI and its followers is that there is no other God but Allah. They teach that their founder, Master Fard Muhammad is the Mahdi.[SUP][28][/SUP]
The official beliefs of the NOI have been outlined in books, documents, and articles published by the organization, and in speeches by Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, Farrakhan, and other ministers.

Many of Elijah Muhammad's teachings may be found in Message to the Blackman in America and The True History of Jesus as Taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.[SUP][29][/SUP]


Written lessons from 1930 to 1934 were passed from W. Fard Muhammad to his student, Elijah Muhammad. These were collected and entitled The Supreme Wisdom. The NOI continues to teach its followers that the present world society is segmented into three distinct categories. They teach that from a general perspective, 85% of the population are the "deaf, dumb and blind" masses of the people who "are easily led in the wrong direction and hard to lead in the right direction". Those 85% of the masses are said to be manipulated by 10% of the people. Those 10% rich "slave-makers" are said to manipulate the 85% masses of the people through ignorance, the skillful use of religious doctrine, and the mass media. The third group is referred to as the 5% "poor righteous teachers" of the people of the world, who know the truth of the manipulation of the 85% masses of the people by the 10%. The 5% "righteous teachers" are at constant struggle and war with the 10% to reach and "free the minds" of the masses of the people.[SUP][30][/SUP][SUP][31]

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ali.baba

Citizen
Muhammad Ali gives an inspirational and thought provoking speech

Muhammad Ali speaks about what he plans to do after retirement. Inspirational and thought provoking speech.

 

Sachbolo

Senator (1k+ posts)
Dear Brothers & Sisters these people of Nation of Islam are far away from Islamic teachings and basically have nothing to do with Islam only their organization name is Nation of Islam and they call themselves Muslims. Malcom X was a person belonging to it and he was 10 times more vocal than Farah Khan and said very bothering things openly in the media and in the speeches and due to that reason he was asked by Elijah Mohammad not to make any speech or give any kind of statement / speech and during that time Malcom X started searching about Islam and went to Haj during that search and while coming back he was just a different person and became real Muslim at which this Minister Louis Farrakhan and his band of thugs are suspected to be the Killers of Malcom X.
Moreover after the death of Elijah Mohammad his son Waris Din Mohammad left the Nation of Islam and came in the fold of Islam and since than Farrahkhan is heading the NOI.
I personally met a person from Nation of Islam and when these guys talks they did not let you talk and the theories they have about Islam are so weird that you will just runaway from these mouth runners.
Son of Elijah Mohammad (the founder of NOI) died a few years ago may Allah s.w.t. have his blessings on him as when he left the NOI he took lots of its followers with him and I know a few people who belong to his organization.
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
[h=1]Warith Deen Mohammed[/h]
Leader of the Nation of Islam
In office
February 26, 1975 – 1976
Preceded byElijah Muhammad
Leader of the American Society of Muslims
In office
1976 – August 31, 2003
Director of The Mosque Cares
In office
2003 – September 9, 2008
Succeeded byWallace D. Mohammed II
Personal details
BornWallace Delaney Muhammad
October 30, 1933
Hamtramck, Michigan, U.S.
DiedSeptember 9, 2008
(aged 74)
Chicago, Illinois, U.S.
Resting placeMount Glenwood Cemetery,
Thornton, Illinois, U.S.
NationalityAmerican
Spouse(s)Shirley Muhammad
Khadijah Siddeeq-Mohammed
RelationsDr. Akbar Muhammad, PHD, Jabir Herbert Muhammad
Alma materMuhammad University of Islam
OccupationImam, Religious Reformer, Muslim Scholar, Businessman
Religion
Sunni Islam




[h=3]Early life and education[/h] Mohammed was born Wallace Delaney Muhammad on Yeman Street in Hamtramck, Michigan in 1933.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][11][/SUP] (In 1980 he would change his name to Warithuddin Muhammad, Warith Deen Muhammad, which translates to 'Inheritor of the Religion of Muhammad'.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][12][/SUP]) His parents were Clara and Elijah Muhammad, both highly active in the Nation of Islam (NOI), the organization that preached a form of Black nationalism and its own version of Islam.[SUP][13][/SUP] From 1934 until his death in 1975, Elijah Muhammad led the Nation.[SUP][14][/SUP]
Named to honor Wallace Fard Muhammad (Fard), the founder of the Nation of Islam, Mohammed grew up in Chicago, one of seven siblings.[SUP][15][/SUP] His early education came from the Muhammad University of Islam school system now known as the Clara Muhammad Schools, or Muhammad Schools.[SUP][16][/SUP] He studied Arabic as a youth under Professor Jamal Diab, a Palestinian who had been hired by his father to teach at the M.U.I. in Chicago.[SUP][17][/SUP]
Mohammed became a minister under his father in late 1958 and served in Philadelphia during the late 1950s and early 1960s.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][18][/SUP][SUP][19][/SUP]
In 1961, on his 28th birthday, Mohammed began a term in federal prison for having refused induction into the United States military. He could have served community service, but his father pressed him to accept the jail time.[SUP][5][/SUP] He spent most of that time studying the Qur'an, the scripture of Islam.[SUP][20][/SUP] He became convinced that the Nation of Islam had to change. In 1963 he was released from prison.[SUP][21][/SUP][SUP][22][/SUP] Close to Malcolm X, who was also questioning the NOI, he found that by this time his viewpoints deviated significantly from those of his father, whom he no longer believed was a prophet.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][23][/SUP] Because of this conclusion, he was excommunicated five times, but by 1974, he was returned permanently to NOI.[SUP][5][/SUP]
[h=2]Religious leadership and Ministry[/h] [h=3]Reforming the Nation of Islam[/h] Upon the death of his father on February 25, 1975, Mohammed was unanimously chosen as the leader of the Nation of Islam and introduced to the NOI membership as such at the annual Saviours' Day convention on February 26, 1975.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][24][/SUP][SUP][25][/SUP] Among the first changes Mohammed instituted, he dropped the title Supreme Minister and took the title Chief Imam, or simply Imam, in 1976.[SUP][26][/SUP][SUP][27][/SUP] The same year, he unveiled a new flag for the NOI community.[SUP][28][/SUP][SUP][29][/SUP]
These were just two of the many reforms Mohammed introduced.[SUP][3][/SUP] Among others, he eliminated the NOI dress code, disbanded the military branch of the NOI, clarified the concept of the devil, and, through his Muhammad Speaks newspaper and public speeches, introduced and explained Islam's Five Pillars.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][25][/SUP][SUP][30][/SUP] He stated that Fard was not divine and that his father was not a prophet.[SUP][23][/SUP] All of the over 400 temples were converted into traditional Islamic Mosques. He also renamed the community several times before finally settling on the American Society of Muslims to reflect the new thinking.[SUP][22][/SUP][SUP][31][/SUP] Mohammed was frank about his intentions to evolve the movement. On November 19, 1978 he spoke on the "Evolution of the Nation of Islam" at the American academy of Religion in New Orleans, Louisiana.[SUP][32][/SUP]
Mohammed's changes reached deep into the philosophy of the movement his father had led for so long. He rejected literal interpretations of his father's theology and Black-separatist views and on the basis of his intensive independent study of Islamic law, history, and theology, he accepted whites as fellow worshipers.[SUP][33][/SUP][SUP][34][/SUP] However, he also encouraged African Americans (Bilalians) to separate themselves from their pasts, in 1976 calling upon them to change their surnames which were often given to their ancestors by slave masters.[SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][35][/SUP] He forged closer ties with mainstream Muslim communities, including Latinos.[SUP][36][/SUP] He also decentralized power. On September 10, 1978 in an address in Atlanta, Georgia he resigned as Chief Imam and appointed a six-member council to lead the Community.[SUP][37][/SUP][SUP][38][/SUP]
Mohammed felt quite keenly his role in reform. In an interview published in the Muhammad Speaks newspaper and conducted by his brother Jabir Herbert Muhammad, Mohammed described his role as successor to their father as that of a Mujeddid,[SUP][39][/SUP] one who would watch over the new Islam or community.[SUP][40][/SUP][SUP][41][/SUP] In 1979 he used the title Mujeddid (Mujaddid) on his byline in his weekly articles for the Bilalian News (the new titles of Muhammad Speaks).[SUP][42][/SUP]
Warith Deen Mohammed gained widespread support among the international Muslim community, but his changes to the Nation of Islam were not universally accepted.[SUP][43][/SUP] A number of dissident groups resisted, most notably those who followed Louis Farrakhan in breaking ranks with Mohammed. This group revived the name 'Nation of Islam' in 1977.[SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][44][/SUP] In 1995 Mohammed released a statement expressing concern about Farrakhan's motivations and the racial divisiveness of his ministry.[SUP][40][/SUP][SUP][43][/SUP] The pair embraced publicly and declared reconciliation at the annual Saviours' Day convention on February 25, 2000, but in August 10, 2007, Mohammed repeated his frustration with the separatist stance of the current Nation of Islam, stating that its leaders had, "for the last 10 years or more,...just been selling wolf tickets to the white race and having fun while they collect money and have fancy lifestyles."[SUP][45][/SUP] He predicted a quiet evolution in the NOI towards unity with the mainstream American Muslim community.
[h=3]Building ties within the Muslim community[/h] Mohammed was intent on strengthening bonds between his movement and the wider American Muslim faith as well as with followers of Islam abroad. It was his goal to align American Muslims with Sunni Islam.[SUP][15][/SUP] In 1976, he took a delegation to Guyana on an official State Visit to meet with Prime Minister L. Forbes Burnham, and the then President of Guyana Arthur Chung, during which he forged ties with the Muslim communities in the region.[SUP][46][/SUP] In 1985, he met in Geneva, Switzerland with Dr. Muhammad Ahmad Al-Sharif, Secretary General of the Islamic Call Society of Libya and Dr. Abdul Hakim Tabibi, an Afghan mujahid, to discuss areas of future cooperation with the Islamic Call Society and the Muslim Community of America.[SUP][47][/SUP] He hosted Grand Mufti Abdullah Mukhtar, the leader of an estimated 60 million Muslims at Masjid Bilal, during his first visit to the U.S. in 1994.[SUP][48][/SUP] In 1999, he was elected to the Islamic Society of North America's Shura Board.[SUP][49][/SUP] That same year, during Ramadan, he pledged to work with then Grand Mufti of Syria, Shaikh Ahmed Kuftaro an-Naqshbandi(raa) for the advancement of Al-Islam during a meeting with Kuftaro and Shaikh Nazim al-Haqqanian-Naqshbandi.[SUP][50][/SUP][SUP][51][/SUP] He was the special invited guest and keynote speaker at the "Inaugural Conference on the Growth and Development of Islam in America", held at Harvard University on March 3–4, 2000.[SUP][52][/SUP]
[h=3]Interfaith cooperation[/h] Just as Mohammed sought to be racially inclusive, he also focused on cooperation between multiple faiths. On May 23, 1976, he conducted a massive interfaith Spiritual Life Jubilee in Los Angeles, California and spoke on the subject "A New Heaven and a New Earth".[SUP][53][/SUP] In 1977 he participated in a Muslim-Christian dialogue in Fort Worth, Texas with Dr. Jack Evans, then President of Southwestern Christian College in Terrell, Texas.[SUP][54][/SUP] In February 1978, he gave a historic address before more than 1,000 Jews and Muslims at the Washington Hebrew Congregation in Washington, D.C., then under the leadership of Rabbi Joshua O. Haberman.[SUP][55][/SUP]
This was a focus that would persist throughout his career. In 1993 he spoke at the Interfaith Roundtable National Conference of Christians, Jews and Muslims in Detroit, Michigan.[SUP][47][/SUP] In March 1995 he gave the keynote address at the Muslim-Jewish Convocation in Glencoe, Illinois.[SUP][56][/SUP] From October 1–6, 1996 he met with Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Francis Arinze at the Vatican in Rome.[SUP][57][/SUP] On August 17, 1997 he was presented the Luminosa Award for Unity from the Focolare Movement.[SUP][58][/SUP] On September 9, 1997 he addressed the Baltimore Jewish Council speaking on themes of world-wide justice and fairness.[SUP][59][/SUP] On May 18–20, 1998, he attended the Conference on Religion and Peace sponsored by the Center for Christian, Jewish Understanding of Sacred Heart University in Auschwitz, Poland.[SUP][56][/SUP] In June 1998 he addressed the Muslim Friends of the Focolare conference in Rome, Italy,[SUP][60][/SUP] in October of the following year, along with a 92-member delegation, he spoke before a gathering of 100,000 people in the Vatican.[SUP][61][/SUP][SUP][62][/SUP] Pope John Paul II and the Dalai Lama were both in attendance.[SUP][63][/SUP] On October 29, 2001, Mohammed participated in an "Evening of Religious Solidarity" joined by Minister Louis Farrakhan, Reverend Robert H. Schuller, and members of the Parliament of World Religions at The Islamic Foundation in Villa Park, Illinois.[SUP][64]

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Original1

New Member
"By the pen and that which they write." Don't fall for the slander. They in the Nation of Islam are true Muslims, and they are the most respected Muslims on this earth. Of course, they have a different school of thought in that they see Fard Muhammad as being the long awaited Mahdi, but that's for Allah to Decide.
 

Piyasa

Minister (2k+ posts)
اسلام تشدّد نہيں سکھاتا۔۔۔۔۔۔اب اسلام کی آڑ ميں بہت سارے لوگ اپنا کام کر جاتے ہيں جيسے ديش اور دوسری جہادی تنظيميں جو انسانی قتل کو مذہب سے جائز ٹھيراتے ہيں جوکہ اللّہ تعالی کو سخت ناپسند ہۓ۔
 

Sachbolo

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Just Came Across This Very Interesting Video

He is from Nation of Islam who are not considered to be muslims..

Brother you don't know their beliefs they have Islam only in their name thats why the founder of this organizations son Brother Waris din Mohammad got out of this organization after his fathers death and became true Muslim (may Allah bless him) he was a great leader and died a couple of years ago and so did Malcom X (Malik Shabbaz) left this organization before his death and it is said probably this guy Minister Farrakans hand was also in his murder as Malcom X just change his direction 180 degrees from them. These guys changes their argument and talks so much weird thing that you will be surprised and this verse you are quoting is a mis quote from them you can read the reasons of that sura when it was revealed.
 

Sachbolo

Senator (1k+ posts)
"By the pen and that which they write." Don't fall for the slander. They in the Nation of Islam are true Muslims, and they are the most respected Muslims on this earth. Of course, they have a different school of thought in that they see Fard Muhammad as being the long awaited Mahdi, but that's for Allah to Decide.

Brother you don't know their beliefs they have Islam only in their name thats why the founder of this organizations son Brother Waris din Mohammad got out of this organization after his fathers death and became true Muslim (may Allah bless him) he was a great leader and died a couple of years ago and so did Malcom X (Malik Shabbaz) left this organization before his death and it is said probably this guy Minister Farrakans hand was also in his murder as Malcom X just change his direction 180 degrees from them. These guys changes their argument and talks so much weird thing that you will be surprised and this verse you are quoting is a mis quote from them you can read the reasons of that sura when it was revealed.