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sam123

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A classical example of affected mind. Brother check UR self U must be an Indian with false flag or U need to open your eyes to truth. There are many Gujrat incidents and Hindu mentality "Baghal mein Chury munh mein Ram Ram" can never change. Like European Union we must have "United states of Islam" No boundaries for 56 Muslim countries no Visas. Bollywood has never been our culture except for the few enlightened moderate fascists terrorist who are spreading it like a poison. From which the mentality like ......stems. May Allah (SWT) guide us all.

Saudi arab diplomat was killed..they dont trust us.
UAE too is more pro india,so is oman,qatar and iran..
The only muslim country which supports pakistan is turkey ..
Many arab countries are banning us due to fear of terror....
 
We cant achieve anything with your mindset...We need to mend ways with india...Only peace with them can solve our problems....

come to uk and america.....pakistani and indians live together peacefully.....all pakistani,bangladeshi restaurants use india branding ...If i open a shop with pakistan name.. pakistanis will also not come..Their industry,bollwood,food are part of our culture,food and habits..We cant forget our roots and prosper...
I hope you realize ,how european union has merged together for their welfare..
what have we achieved in last 64 years with india hatred?If we sign peace deal with them,we wont need to worry about all these mania and bogus threats

Pakistan creation is a miracle in itself.That is what our neighbours can not digest.Good or bad Pakistan is all we have.Their food was dahls and vegtables ,do not get me wrong there is nothing wrong with dahls and vegitables.It was the great Moughals who brought all of this great foods such as Kababs,tikas etc etc... that is today known as "Indian"!. Im afraid how ever anyone potraits India you as a muslim will be a second class citizen....We have not lost our roots and bollywood is hardly anything to aspire to neonaked running around in badly copied hollywood films. Please don't forget it has taken the European good part of two century's to get where they are
today so give it a bit of time... Pakistan will rise along with its neighbours like China and India as Pakistan is strategically located.Future is bright for Pakistan.Inshallah.
 

sam123

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Pakistan creation is a miracle in itself.That is what our neighbours can not digest.Good or bad Pakistan is all we have.Their food was dahls and vegtables ,do not get me wrong there is nothing wrong with dahls and vegitables.It was the great Moughals who brought all of this great foods such as Kababs,tikas etc etc... that is today known as "Indian"!. Im afraid how ever anyone potraits India you as a muslim will be a second class citizen....We have not lost our roots and bollywood is hardly anything to aspire to neonaked running around in badly copied hollywood films. Please don't forget it has taken the European good part of two century's to get where they are
today so give it a bit of time... Pakistan will rise along with its neighbours like China and India as Pakistan is strategically located.Future is bright for Pakistan.Inshallah.

rationally,we have not achieved much after creation.....If you say ,you are pakistani abroad ,you are looked down upon by anyone...Many pakistanis in usa,hide their nationality and say they are indians..Moughals were afgani who were born and brought up in india.
Reality is that we have no brand ....china will not convert pakistan into developed nation...they care about their personal interests..our country is ruled by estalishments and army indirectly and we can never become welfare state until
civilian government grow some balls...
 
rationally,we have not achieved much after creation.....If you say ,you are pakistani abroad ,you are looked down upon by anyone...Many pakistanis in usa,hide their nationality and say they are indians..Moughals were afgani who were born and brought up in india.
Reality is that we have no brand ....china will not convert pakistan into developed nation...they care about their personal interests..our country is ruled by estalishments and army indirectly and we can never become welfare state until
civilian government grow some balls...

I can assure you that no Pakistani will ever say that "i'm an Indian" so please do not patronize us... we know who we are... I have never had a problem with anyone looking down at me if they know of my Pakistani origin etc...Yes China will and India will not convert us but as we have borders with them they will have to trade with us like it or not...Yes every nation has its personal interest as does Pakistan. I do agree with your last comment about being ruled by the establishment and army indirectly and thats where we come in the people of Pakistan are vibrant,intellectual and peace loving...Be Proud to Pakistani...time are hard at present but that will change with time.
 

sam123

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I can assure you that no Pakistani will ever say that "i'm an Indian" so please do not patronize us... we know who we are... I have never had a problem with anyone looking down at me if they know of my Pakistani origin etc...Yes China will and India will not convert us but as we have borders with them they will have to trade with us like it or not...Yes every nation has its personal interest as does Pakistan. I do agree with your last comment about being ruled by the establishment and army indirectly and thats where we come in the people of Pakistan are vibrant,intellectual and peace loving...Be Proud to Pakistani...time are hard at present but that will change with time.

1.i wont agree with your origin comments..whenever i meet a pakistani,he will say ,he is indian..once i say that my parents are from pakistan,then only they will tell their nationality..
2.if you go to dubai...most of pakistanis living there will somehow link themselves to india..my maternal grand pa was born in india...my grandpa is from india......
3.In usa,only few of pakistanis will say that they are from pakistan...............


http://tribune.com.pk/story/11555/pakistanis-pose-as-indians-after-ny-bomb-scare/

Pakistanis pose as Indians after NY bomb scare


NEW YORK:
Pakistani merchants and job seekers in the United States have begun posing as Indians to avoid discrimination in the wake of the Times Square bomb attempt.
“A lot of Pakistanis can’t get jobs after 9/11 and now it’s even worse,” said Asghar Choudhri, an accountant and chairman of Brooklyn’s Pakistani American Merchant Association. “They are now pretending they are Indian so they can get a job.”
This comes despite the fact that India and Pakistan have fought three wars since independence from Britain in 1947, creating hostilities that ordinarily would lead a Pakistani to resent being mistaken for an Indian.
In Brooklyn, home to one of the largest Pakistani populations in the United States, business is scant at the various grocery, halal meat and sweet cake shops. More than 100 businesses along Coney Island Avenue have closed due to a 30 percent drop in business since 2001, a merchants’ association said.
While there have been no reported incidents since the failed car bomb attack last Saturday, some Pakistanis are bracing for reprisals.
“I want to make clear that we will not tolerate any bias or backlash against Pakistani or Muslim New Yorkers,” Mayor Michael Bloomberg said this week, noting that there are always “a few bad apples.”
New York is “the city where you can practice your religion and say what you want to say and be in charge of your own destiny and we’re going to keep it that way,” Bloomberg said.
Suspicious gardening:
In Washington, an American of Pakistani heritage who would only be identified as Farhan, said a manager of a suburban home-improvement store prevented him from buying two bags of fertilizer for his family’s lawn on Tuesday.
Farhan, who was born in northern Virginia, said police arrived soon after, investigated and allowed him to buy the fertilizer.
“What kind of a country are we living in when a 22-year-old male can’t buy fertilizer?” Farhan asked. “I’m American. I’m not Pakistani.”
Farhan said the store had subsequently apologized and the case appeared to be one of an overzealous manager rather than store policy.
According to the latest U.S. census data, some 210,410 people of Pakistani origin reside in the United States. Nearly 15,000 Pakistanis received U.S. immigrant visas last year.
 
1.i wont agree with your origin comments..whenever i meet a pakistani,he will say ,he is indian..once i say that my parents are from pakistan,then only they will tell their nationality..
2.if you go to dubai...most of pakistanis living there will somehow link themselves to india..my maternal grand pa was born in india...my grandpa is from india......
3.In usa,only few of pakistanis will say that they are from pakistan...............

I can't say anything about living in USA but i can quite proudly say we do not have these problems in the UK...where i live we have 5 mosques the communities are all very tolerant of each other.Finally me or many of my friends have never had to hide the fact that we are Pakistani. So i'm afraid we have to agree to dissagree.
 

only_truths

Minister (2k+ posts)
1.i wont agree with your origin comments..whenever i meet a pakistani,he will say ,he is indian..once i say that my parents are from pakistan,then only they will tell their nationality..
2.if you go to dubai...most of pakistanis living there will somehow link themselves to india..my maternal grand pa was born in india...my grandpa is from india......
3.In usa,only few of pakistanis will say that they are from pakistan...............

For this to change, the hatred in Pakistani mindset need to change. Your politicians have given up because of Army pressures. Many times I hear you are in strategic location. What is the use if you use it to your disadvantage ?
 

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