Is The Quran Incomplete without Hadith?

[A.jokhio]

Correct caption of your post....its blasphemous...

 

[shujauddin]

Another thread on Islam and another round of in Muslim fighting. One Muslim declared Kafir already and others are verbally abusing each other.
And then they have guts to say that there is Qadiani conspiracy, Jewish conspiracy, that conspiracy, this conspiracy against Islam
Citizen X Wake up Pak jani1 atensari ts_rana karachiwala

easy ho ja bhai easy hoja and try to follow the examples and questions, i raised:


Example1: I do not believe that Jesus is God. Therefore i am a not a Christian. Whats so odd about it?
Example2: Imjutt does not believe that Hanuman/Ganesh are gods. Therefore he is not a Hindu.
Example3: A man who does not believe in Hadith ( a basic tenant of Islam) is not a muslim.

 

[jani1]

he is probably munkir-e-hadith. These people are not muslims as they deny and do not believe in a basic pillar of islam. It is very similar to saying " Bhai May Allah ko to manta houn per Rasool ko nahi"

Basically a Kafir!

یہ منکر حدیث بھی ہے اور منکر نماز بھی ۔۔۔

اس تھریڈ پر جاکر ہمارے مسخرے دوست کے ساتھ میری کی گئی گپ شپ ملاحظہ فرمائیں۔۔
آپکو اندازہ ہوجائے گا کہ اس سے بحث فضول ہے۔۔ کیونکہ اس سے جو سوال کرو اسکا جواب دینے کے بجائے یہ ایک اور سوال داغ دیتا ہے۔۔ اور اس کا کھیل جاری رہتا ہے۔۔ دماغ کی ماں بہن ایک کرنے کا

The Curse of Polytheism | Genius of Islam Ep. 3

 

[Nightcrawl]

Nope Quran and Hadith both are pillars of Islam we won't know about fasting, prayers, husband wife rules ,zakat etc without Hadith

 

[hkniazi]

No we are not declaring him just pointing out the fact that Munkir Hadith is Kafir. which is right; beside we are not qualified to declare anybody anything it is scholar's job.

and who are you?

 

[shujauddin]

یہ منکر حدیث بھی ہے اور منکر نماز بھی ۔۔۔

And all those who deny hadith and namaz are kafirs. Haan ub individual level per takfeer lagana Ulema ka kaam hay. But as muslims we have no doubt in our mind that these people are kafirs. Officially announce kerna hamara kaam nahi as we are not the ones with Authority per we know that they fall outside of Islam!

 

[arifkarim]

No we are not declaring him just pointing out the fact that Munkir Hadith is Kafir.

So it was enough to say that Munkir Khatme Nabuwat is Kafir. Why declare Qadianis Kafir?

 

[Nightcrawl]

Another thread on Islam and another round of in Muslim fighting. One Muslim declared Kafir already and others are verbally abusing each other.
And then they have guts to say that there is Qadiani conspiracy, Jewish conspiracy, that conspiracy, this conspiracy against Islam
Citizen X Wake up Pak jani1 atensari ts_rana karachiwala

It's not infighting bhai Quran and sunnah are pillars of Islam and sunnah is given to us by ahadith Quran tells us to follow our prophet (PBUH) how can we without ahadith and sunnah derived through them them

 

[arifkarim]

یہ منکر حدیث بھی ہے اور منکر نماز بھی ۔۔۔

منکر ختم نبوت بس رہ گیا ہے پھر پکا قادیانی سمجھو

 

[Nightcrawl]

And all those who deny hadith and namaz are kafirs. Haan ub individual level per takfeer lagana Ulema ka kaam hay. But as muslims we have no doubt in our mind that these people are kafirs. Officially announce kerna hamara kaam nahi as we are not the ones with Authority per we know that they fall outside of Islam!

They're on a very wrong path that's for sure

 

[shujauddin]

So it was enough to say that Munkir Khatme Nabuwat is Kafir. Why declare Qadianis Kafir?

Haha tum Qadyani ho? Oye Qadyani to Kafir hotay hein. They have their own Prophet Mirza sahab!

 

[arifkarim]

Nope Quran and Hadith both are pillars of Islam we won't know about fasting, prayers, husband wife rules ,zakat etc without Hadith

There are 5 pillars of Islam and Hadith is not one of them. Early Muslims didn't have any Hadith books and yet they lived fine as Muslims

 

[Shan ALi AK 27]

It is documented in several hadith books that the Prophet prohibited the scribing of anything from him except the Quran. Also, there are reports that his ‘rightly guided successors’ banned and burnt hadith materials as they tried to prevent the creation of secondary authorities next to the Quran. This specific prohibition seems to be evidenced by the historical data, e.g. lack of any authoritative hadith book during the first few generations of Muslims.

When you comment on such issues I demand authentic references. Something like "it has been said." is not enough. There is a whole science behind the Hadith. This matter has been all worked out and settled by authentic scholars and there is no point of bringing such things on a political forum where you can't do justice.

 

[Nightcrawl]

There are 5 pillars of Islam and Hadith is not one of them. Early Muslims didn't have any Hadith books and yet they lived fine as Muslims

Will you make how to fulfill those obligations without Sunnah and ahadith?

 

[Imjutt]

So it was enough to say that Munkir Khatme Nabuwat is Kafir. Why declare Qadianis Kafir?

Not only Qadianis but who ever deny this basic is Kafir, again Br. Shujauddin example comes here. if you don't want Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him as last , why are you dying to call yourself Muslim go and choose another name like Sikhs, hindus , and so on, don't just steal and try to prove yourself one of us which you (qadianis) clearly not.

 

[atensari]

Another thread on Islam and another round of in Muslim fighting. One Muslim declared Kafir already and others are verbally abusing each other.
And then they have guts to say that there is Qadiani conspiracy, Jewish conspiracy, that conspiracy, this conspiracy against Islam
Citizen X Wake up Pak jani1 atensari ts_rana karachiwala

این جی او مسلمان سازش کے بغیر ہی مکتی بھگت، صیہونی پرست اور جمہوری سامراج کے سپاہی بن گئے

 

[jani1]

Hadith is not basic tenant of Islam View attachment 3845

but namaz is.... he rejects it too...

 

[shujauddin]

but namaz is.... he rejects it too...

wow man just as I predicted ! A certified Dehria!

 

[Nightcrawl]

Will you make how to fulfill those obligations without Sunnah and ahadith?

Know*

 

[Shan ALi AK 27]

your level of mind set.
cant argue but speaks of fucking my mother and sister.

I think he met you at your level of mind set. Or may be you were even lower. Sometimes you need to tell Hypocrites to fuck their mothers and that is what he did to you ?