Is Hijab valid today?

[StarTrooper]

Stop typical whataboutry ......
It is you who equated pardah with slavery so may I conclude you think all women who do pardah nowadays are slaves ???? .....
Again .... Your conclusions mean nothing ..... Your attempts at twisting words of Holy Quran will be just that ..... attempts ....
For your info Pardah esp hijab has grown in Pakistan...... it’s because we think what was ordered for wives of Holy Prophet PBUH was the best of the orders regarding Pardah .....

Jahil I never equated parda with slavery. I just quoted Tafsirs that Parda was to differentiate between Free women from slave women

 

[Aristo]

Meny tu koi mutlab nahi diya

Tafsir share ki hain ky early Muslim kia samajty thy. Mujh pe atraz kis cheez ka

conclusion kis nay nikala hay apni marzi ka????????

 

[Aristo]

Meny tu koi mutlab nahi diya

Tafsir share ki hain ky early Muslim kia samajty thy. Mujh pe atraz kis cheez ka

kio b apni marzi say tafseer main jo marzi mani day day aour jo marzi conclusion nikal lay to hum maan lain gay ????? Quran e Pak ke Aiyat waziya hay clearly apna message day rahi hay

 

[StarTrooper]

conclusion kis nay nikala hay apni marzi ka????????

Conclusion nikalna har Musalman ka right hai

 

[StarTrooper]

kio b apni marzi say tafseer main jo marzi mani day day aour jo marzi conclusion nikal lay to hum maan lain gay ????? Quran e Pak ke Aiyat waziya hay clearly apna message day rahi hay

As your pagan tribal mind cannot digest isliyah Hazrat Abbas aur Ibn Khatir koi bhi ho gae

 

[Keep the trust]

Jawab hai nahi tum logon ky pass sirf galian hain Jhaula ki tara

Cloths should be thick and not transparent or see-thru) because it cannot cover properly otherwise. Transparent or see-thru clothing makes a woman more tempting and beautiful. Concerning this the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: During the last days of my ummah there will be women who are clothed but naked, with something on their heads like the humps of camels. Curse them, for they are cursed. Another hadeeth adds: They will not enter Paradise or even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance can be detected from such and such a distance.

(Narrated by Muslim from the report of Abu Hurayrah).

Ibn Abd al-Barr said: what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) meant was women who wear clothes made of light fabric which describes and does not cover. They are clothed in name but naked in reality.

Transmitted by al-Suyooti in Tanweer al-Hawaalik, 3/103.

(It should be loose, not tight so that it describes any part of the body).

The purpose of clothing is to prevent fitnah (temptation), and this can only be achieved if clothes are wide and loose. Tight clothes, even if they conceal the colour of the skin, still describe the size and shape of the body or part of it, and create a vivid image in the minds of men. The corruption or invitation to corruption that is inherent in that is quite obvious. So the clothes must be wide. Usaamah ibn Zayd said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave me a thick Egyptian garment that was one of the gifts given to him by Duhyat al-Kalbi, and I gave it to my wife to wear. He said, Why do I not see you wearing that Egyptian garment? I said, I gave it to my wife to wear. He said, Tell her to wear a gown underneath it, for I am afraid that it may describe the size of her bones.

(Narrated by al-Diyaa al-Maqdisi in al-Ahaadeeth al-Mukhtaarah, 1/442, and by Ahmad and al-Bayhaqi, with a hasan isnaad).

 

[Sonya Khan]

Jahil I never equated parda with slavery. I just quoted Tafsirs that Parda was to differentiate between Free women from slave women

You calling me names shows that you are out of arguments....... It was your conclusion otherwise Holy Quran is very clear about Pardah ahkamat...... These are for ‘believing women’ ......

 

[Aristo]

As your pagan tribal mind cannot digest isliyah Hazrat Abbas aur Ibn Khatir koi bhi ho gae

i am talking about you aour tumhari mentality k level k samjh sab ko arahi hay kisi ko jahil keh rahay ho kisi ko kuch kisi ko kuch jab daleel hatam ho jaiye samnay walay ko apni baat samjhnay say qasir hon to jahil etc keh kar rah e farar hasil karo simple

 

[StarTrooper]

Cloths should be thick and not transparent or see-thru) because it cannot cover properly otherwise. Transparent or see-thru clothing makes a woman more tempting and beautiful. Concerning this the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: During the last days of my ummah there will be women who are clothed but naked, with something on their heads like the humps of camels. Curse them, for they are cursed. Another hadeeth adds: They will not enter Paradise or even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance can be detected from such and such a distance.

(Narrated by Muslim from the report of Abu Hurayrah).

Ibn Abd al-Barr said: what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) meant was women who wear clothes made of light fabric which describes and does not cover. They are clothed in name but naked in reality.

Transmitted by al-Suyooti in Tanweer al-Hawaalik, 3/103.

(It should be loose, not tight so that it describes any part of the body).

The purpose of clothing is to prevent fitnah (temptation), and this can only be achieved if clothes are wide and loose. Tight clothes, even if they conceal the colour of the skin, still describe the size and shape of the body or part of it, and create a vivid image in the minds of men. The corruption or invitation to corruption that is inherent in that is quite obvious. So the clothes must be wide. Usaamah ibn Zayd said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave me a thick Egyptian garment that was one of the gifts given to him by Duhyat al-Kalbi, and I gave it to my wife to wear. He said, Why do I not see you wearing that Egyptian garment? I said, I gave it to my wife to wear. He said, Tell her to wear a gown underneath it, for I am afraid that it may describe the size of her bones.

(Narrated by al-Diyaa al-Maqdisi in al-Ahaadeeth al-Mukhtaarah, 1/442, and by Ahmad and al-Bayhaqi, with a hasan isnaad).

Later Tafsirs and no one here denying modesty. Defination of modesty varies from culture to culture. Westren women also dress modestly

 

[Dr Adam]

کیوں بے چارے لبرل کی ماں کی بنڈ پیچھے پڑ گئے ہو۔۔۔ اگلے کی روزی روٹی ایسے ہی چلتی ہے تو آپ کو کیا مسئلہ ہے

!باس تو بہت پہنچا ہوا بزرگ ہے بھائی . سو سنار کی... ایک لوہار (باس) کی
اےای واللہ ​

 

[Keep the trust]

Later Tafsirs and no one here denying modesty. Defination of modesty varies from culture to culture. Westren women also dress modestly

Modesty comes when u look elegant, you look elegant when you dressed up properly, you dressed properly when you don’t reveal your body, when you cover your body it’s parda. So modesty leads to parda. Even in west a lady wearing revealing clothes doesn’t fall in the category of modesty.

 

[Dr Adam]

Jahil I never equated parda with slavery. I just quoted Tafsirs that Parda was to differentiate between Free women from slave women

You calling me names shows that you are out of arguments....... It was your conclusion otherwise Holy Quran is very clear about Pardah ahkamat...... These are for ‘believing women’ ......

You should be ashamed of yourself of behaving like this with a pious lady. Do you know who she is?? She's a doctor and a student of Sahee Bukhari. People like you cannot even reach to the dust of her feet.

 

[StarTrooper]

i am talking about you aour tumhari mentality k level k samjh sab ko arahi hay kisi ko jahil keh rahay ho kisi ko kuch kisi ko kuch jab daleel hatam ho jaiye samnay walay ko apni baat samjhnay say qasir hon to jahil etc keh kar rah e farar hasil karo simple

You calling me names shows that you are out of arguments....... It was your conclusion otherwise Holy Quran is very clear about Pardah ahkamat...... These are for ‘believing women’ ......

I called you Jahil because Tum mujh per bhotan laga rahy thy after i repeated denying it that i wrote such a thing
If a person says Ibn Abass and Ibn Khatir are koi bhi instead of providing any earlier reference What should i say to such a person?

 

[StarTrooper]

Modesty comes when u look elegant, you look elegant when you dressed up properly, you dressed properly when you don’t reveal your body, when you cover your body it’s parda. So modesty leads to parda. Even in west a lady wearing revealing clothes doesn’t fall in the category of modesty.

A women in pant & T shirt is considered modestly dressed in West even a women in Nikar & T shirt. While in Afghanistan there will be a herd of Jhullas peeping behind her

 

[Sonya Khan]

You should be ashamed of yourself of behaving like this with a pious lady. Do you know who she is?? She's a doctor and a student of Sahee Bukhari. People like you cannot even reach to the dust of her feet.

JazakAllah Dr Sahab ....... I am very humbled by your opinion...... May Allah guide us all .....

 

[StarTrooper]

You should be ashamed of yourself of behaving like this with a pious lady. Do you know who she is?? She's a doctor and a student of Sahee Bukhari. People like you cannot even reach to the dust of her feet.

I never said I can reach to the dust of her feets. I am nothing

 

[Dr Adam]

I never said I can reach to the dust of her feets. I am nothing

I'm not averse to your debate but brother you are aware of the fact that we are brought up in a society where we have very clear lines drawn when we are talking to ladies.
Now that you have shown remorse, I have no problem with you anymore. Please go ahead with your debate,
Shalom.

 

[Keep the trust]

A women in pant & T shirt is considered modestly dressed in West even a women in Nikar & T shirt. While in Afghanistan there will be a herd of Jhullas peeping behind her

Bhai sahab me living in west since a decade and short doesn’t considered modest. If it’s so in any official dinner women can wear shorts but they don’t why??

 

[StarTrooper]

I'm not averse to your debate but brother you are aware of the fact that we are brought up in a society where we have very clear lines drawn when we are talking to ladies.
Now that you have shown remorse, I have no problem with you anymore. Please go ahead with your debate,
Shalom.

Yeah thats why you are giving Thumbsup to every comment abusing me
Salam

 

[StarTrooper]

Bhai sahab me living in west since a decade and short doesn’t considered modest. If it’s so in any official dinner women can wear shorts but they don’t why??

Both formal and informal dresses can be modest. In official dinners people dress formally thats why you did not happen to see shorts in a formal dinner