Inflated cost charity appeals for shaukat khanum hospital equipment must invite a public inquiry .

Rollingstone

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
مائیکرو ویو اوون = 55000
ہاٹ پلیٹ = 75000
یو پی ایس ایک کے وی = 45000
ڈاٹ میٹرکس پرنٹر = 50000
لیزر پرنٹر = 150000

ہر چیز کی قیمت دو بلکہ تین گنا
چار کے وی اے کا یو پی ایس= تین لاکھ پچاس ہزار
اتنے میں اتنی ہی پاور کے سولر پینلز لگ جائیں اور کچھ پیسے بچ بھی جائیں
What is capacity of Owen? Please visit market. When you are talking about a appliances you first look at its use. If home use, u can by Dawlance, Kenwood, Westpoint all Chinese. But for public and commmercial use you look for good and well reputed brands and they are expensive. UPS price for a reliable UPS are good you can check it for your self. But please look above Homeage and other low quality product.
 

Rollingstone

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
بلڈ پریشر مانیٹر پورٹیبل = 40000

اس کی تفصیل یہ دی گئی ہے
https://www.shaukatkhanum.org.pk/images/skm_img/downloads/pdf/ep-list2015/BPAP.pdf

انٹرنیٹ پر یہ مانیٹر پاکستان میں 2200 میں دستیاب ہے
http://lahore.bolee.com/detail/certeza-mercurial-sphygmomanometer-blood-pressure-operatus-1414848

میرے گھر میں ڈاکٹر ہیں، ان سے پوچھا تو ان کے مطابق جرمنی کا سیٹ مارکیٹ میں 5500 سے 6000 روپے میں دستیاب ہے
BB khuda ka khuf karain ap ke batoan say tu lagta hai ap ka ghar main doctor nahi attye hai koi hadi jor. Jhoote pe khuda ke ***** hoti hai. Ap ko kisi shakus sa masla hai woh aledha bat hai per us ka ache kam main jhoti galtian nikalna bhe bohtan hai. A Good Stethoscope costs 35000. If you go and check the market please. Yes there a copies but original worth more. You are talking about 4000 for BP apparatus which are quite expensive. For type which they have mentioned you can find apparatus more then 1 lac also. Its all depend on the quality manufacturer, warranties etc. And what are you looking on Internet you should order for your children they will like it to play DOCTOR DOCTOR.
 

Unorthodox

Senator (1k+ posts)
Ironing Table = 2,50,000 Qty = 4.

1 Million PKR for ironing tables?



Khuda key banday! Hospitals aur Hotels main jo Iron tables use hoti hain woh kafi bari hoti hain. Aur yea cost bilkul theek hai.

Ghar wali Iron aur Iron tables Hospitals aur Hotels main use nahi hotin.
 

Unorthodox

Senator (1k+ posts)
کلر ڈوپلر الٹرا ساونڈ مشین = نواسی لاکھ روپے
https://www.shaukatkhanum.org.pk/images/skm_img/downloads/pdf/ep-list2015/CDUM.pdf

بیس سے پچیس لاکھ میں فورڈی کلر ڈوپلر دستیاب جو اب تک کی سب سے مہنگی مشین ہے
یہ مجھے گھر کے ڈاکٹر صاحب نے بتایا ہے، آپ کی تسلی کے لئے نئی مشین کے امریکہ میں ریٹس دے رہی ہوں
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trolley-Col...d-Scanner-with-CONVEX-andLINEAR-/120844600018

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trolley-Col...Convex-5-0-12-0MHz-Linear-probe-/321703584742



Ghar ka doctor phir Janwaron ka ho ga. Kahin aap ka ilaaj bhi tu nahi kerta rehta? (serious)



Behtar ho ga AliBaba per prices check ker lain. SKMH nay aik ghalti ki hai sath main specifications likh detay tu aap key leye aur asaani ho jati
 

MHAMZA

Minister (2k+ posts)
For all the people who feel the hardware prices are many times the actual prices, I challenge them to register themselves as general order suppliers with SKMH and bid to supply these items...
Especially Muqadas madam please sell the ebay doppler machine priced at 24k USD to SKMH for 98 lacs and keep the profit of 68lacs and retire happily from Mariam Nawaz media team !!!

You internet warriors don't seem to know how things are budgeted in the real world it is not just the off the shelf price that is budgeted rather total life cycle expenses are also built-in this includes spares, consumables, installation, maintenance, training of staff and operational costs etc etc etc
The figures given against items on the SKMH website are the budgeted prices and do not necessary mean that the items shall be purchased at this amount. It is like budget allocations that some times exceed and sometimes remain unspent partially.
Why are you guys confusing this ... is it not clear besides there are donors who provide hardware instead of cash so may Allah SWA give us the resources to contribute the hardware instead of cash.

Similarly reputed organizations such as SKMH do not just purchase from any Tom, **** and Harry but procure through rigorous procedure and award POs to official representatives of the reputed Brands ...
Just take a look around and see how many CT scanners and X-ray machines and other equipment purchased by Punjab Health department is rotting away and out of operation and then visit SKMH and see if any single machine is out of order and come back and post in this thread ....
Shameless people you all are ... knowing the reality and still trying to malign one of the best health institutions of our beloved country

Shame on you all ....
 
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Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)
Khuda key banday! Hospitals aur Hotels main jo Iron tables use hoti hain woh kafi bari hoti hain. Aur yea cost bilkul theek hai.

Ghar wali Iron aur Iron tables Hospitals aur Hotels main use nahi hotin.


I have to respectfully disagree. There are things which can be available at way lower prices. I have already said that we shouldn't make it political but this has become a habit to make everything a political battle as I see the trend in this thread. Only you have tried to answer in a proper manner. I needed to mention a few other facts here but as I have seen that a lady mentioned doctors in her immediate family and people getting personal right away is stopping me from doing so as I too have first-hand experience of purchasing and getting prices of such equipment but I shall refrain from mentioning it in detail. As I have already mentioned, state of the art machines must cost this much but other equipment like this is prices way higher. Thank you for your answer though.
 

Unorthodox

Senator (1k+ posts)
I have to respectfully disagree. There are things which can be available at way lower prices. I have already said that we shouldn't make it political but this has become a habit to make everything a political battle as I see the trend in this thread. Only you have tried to answer in a proper manner. I needed to mention a few other facts here but as I have seen that a lady mentioned doctors in her immediate family and people getting personal right away is stopping me from doing so as I too have first-hand experience of purchasing and getting prices of such equipment but I shall refrain from mentioning it in detail. As I have already mentioned, state of the art machines must cost this much but other equipment like this is prices way higher. Thank you for your answer though.


There is a proverb "Sasta roye baar baar Mehnga Roye aik baar" I agreed SKMH should mention specifications but if you go to Alibaba site and search all these items you will find costs.
 

uturninqlab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
:33:کیا ایک بھی عمرانی چوزہ ایسا نہیں جس کا ضمیر زندہ ہو اور اپنے عظیم انقلابی رہنما کی ٹھگیوں کی مذمت کر لے، نون اور پی پی تو ہیں ہی ڈکیت اور چور مگر اللہ کے ولی حضرت عمران کو کیا ہو گیا
 

Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)
There is a proverb "Sasta roye baar baar Mehnga Roye aik baar" I agreed SKMH should mention specifications but if you go to Alibaba site and search all these items you will find costs.

Sir that is why I haven't said a thing about proper machines and equipment but as I have already mentioned, I might have an idea myself rather than going to websites and searching for prices. Bought an ultrasound a few months ago and so on. I don't know if the purchasing contractor is a third-party one or not but costs can be cut. :) We can only talk about it, contracts have been awarded and it shall go this way whether we like it or not. Thank you for your time mate!
 

SpIDeR.

Minister (2k+ posts)
Bibi ager chizain itni hi sasti hian tu jao ja k cherhai ker do... batain kerna asan hai ja ker dikho kon c chiz hai kis brand ki hai or wo required function provide ker rhi hai k nahi phir bat kerna yha ye link post kerny sai sa patwariyo k ilwa koi shabash nahi dy ga...

بلڈ پریشر مانیٹر پورٹیبل = 40000

اس کی تفصیل یہ دی گئی ہے
https://www.shaukatkhanum.org.pk/images/skm_img/downloads/pdf/ep-list2015/BPAP.pdf

انٹرنیٹ پر یہ مانیٹر پاکستان میں 2200 میں دستیاب ہے
http://lahore.bolee.com/detail/certeza-mercurial-sphygmomanometer-blood-pressure-operatus-1414848

میرے گھر میں ڈاکٹر ہیں، ان سے پوچھا تو ان کے مطابق جرمنی کا سیٹ مارکیٹ میں 5500 سے 6000 روپے میں دستیاب ہے

کلر ڈوپلر الٹرا ساونڈ مشین = نواسی لاکھ روپے
https://www.shaukatkhanum.org.pk/images/skm_img/downloads/pdf/ep-list2015/CDUM.pdf

بیس سے پچیس لاکھ میں فورڈی کلر ڈوپلر دستیاب جو اب تک کی سب سے مہنگی مشین ہے
یہ مجھے گھر کے ڈاکٹر صاحب نے بتایا ہے، آپ کی تسلی کے لئے نئی مشین کے امریکہ میں ریٹس دے رہی ہوں
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trolley-Col...d-Scanner-with-CONVEX-andLINEAR-/120844600018

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trolley-Col...Convex-5-0-12-0MHz-Linear-probe-/321703584742
 
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shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
One fundamental point in this discussion is being missed , ours is not a rich country , people who give zakat expect it to be spent in a way it should benefit most , you do not make a research centre out of charity in Pakistan , you can so that in the rich west . A charity based hospital in poor countries is expected to be a good hospital but not a state of art one , let private parties and state make state of art one .

Prices above market price of upto 30% is not objectionable as charity organization suppliers cannot count on timely payment ,just as government suppliers also inflate prices to cover for delayed payments , above 30% is objectionable .

There are complaints from Shaukat Khanum at they enroll cancer patients of the stage and type who are likely to give good results and improve reports in the eyes of funders .


Even if give 30% allowance and even if we cover for costly maintenance of equipment contracts and even if we cover for non usage of copycat cheap items ,the cost of some equipment is exorbitant .


Shaukat Jhanum's time for detailed outside audit by investigators has come . It's budget is too much for so few beds .I am sure of trouble .


PTI should get ready for this audit of shaukat khanum, it is going to happen .
 
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