Imam Kabah Against Demonstrators in Saudia Arabia, Calls them Shaitaan

BKKhan

Councller (250+ posts)
Shari'ah Versus Man Made Laws. Democracy and Islam
It is necessary to refer all matters of disagreement between Muslims to Allah Subhana hu Wa Ta'ala and His Messenger Muhammad (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam). This is important for the Muslim to know and implement because it indicates the complete submission to Allah without which one would not be a Muslim.

Allah Subhana hu Wa Ta'ala says:
"If you differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam), if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is best and most commendable in the end"
(Surah An Nisa ayat 59)

"And whatever you disagree upon, its decision is with Allah"
(Surah As Shoora ayat 10)

What is mentioned in these verses regarding referring to Allah means referring to His Book; and referring to the Messenger (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam) means referring to him in person when alive, to his Sunnah after his death. The third verse of surah Al Maaidah- "Today I have perfected for you your religion!" is also proof that the Shari'ah has been perfected and completed. It covers everything that the believers may disagree upon concerning their religion, from the smallest to the greatest, whether hidden or evident. And if there were not a clear solution to their disagreement in Allah's Book and His Messenger's (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam) Sunnah, or if they were not enough for that, then He would not have ordered us referral to them.

Allah Subhana hu Wa Ta'ala says: "Follow that which has been revealed upon you from Allah and do not follow any other friends besides it. Little do you recollect!"

(Surah Al-A'raaf: Ayah 3)
Rasoolullah (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam) said:
"O people for sure, I am leaving among you these (two things), if you hold them firmly, you would never go astray. Those two things are Allah's book and the way of his prophet."
(Narrated by Hakim in Al Mustadrak with a Saheeh Sanad)

Shari'ah is the Judge and is not to be judged: This is its power and its role. This means that the Shari'ah rules and judges whether people's sayings and doings are correct or not. It judges between them when in conflict and disagreement. It confirms the right and abolishes the falsehood. This fact sometimes is violated through some wrong practices:
DEMOCRACY:
Today, one of the ugly examples of people taking the Divine Shari'ah into their own hands is the one related to the so-called democracy by taking people's opinion, directly or through their parliament, about implementing the Islamic Laws. The essence of this is subjugating the implementation of the Creator's Shari'ah to the will of His creatures or rendering it to a mere choice like any human-set constitution or laws. This is total and clear disbelief, Kufr. Democracy has become a religion unto its self that is totally against Islam. A few points are being presented herein to draw a clear picture of this new religion that is being used by the West to control the so-called Islamic states at will through their pawns.


The very word democracy is derived from the Greek word demos meaning the people.
Democracy is defined as a form of government, which is of the people, by the people and for the people.

a) In democracy the rule lies with the people whereas in Islam Allah Subhana hu Wa Ta'ala is the ruler.

b) In democracy the people are the source of power. In Islam the source of power is the Almighty Allah Subhana hu Wa Ta'ala.

c) In democracy a body of elected representatives of the people acts as the lawmaker. In Islam Allah Subhana hu Wa Ta'ala is the lawmaker.

d) In democracy the viewpoint or vote of a scholar and that of an ignorant ordinary layman is considered of equal worth. In Islam the scholars and the ignorant people are not considered equals. This is because of the knowledge, which the scholars possess. In fact Rasoolullah (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam) has given a very high position of respect to the scholars of Islam. To elaborate further, what counts in democracy is simply the number of people who vote for any given representative, if 10 ordinary people vote for a person and 9 scholars oppose his election, then the viewpoint of the 9 scholars has no value as compared to the 10 ignorant people. This situation cannot arise in the Islamic way of governance.

e) In democracy one is supposed to prove to the masses that he is the most suitable candidate and every effort is made to prove one's eligibility and credibility for the post. In Islam if someone presents himself for a particular post then he shall never be given that post ever. As Rasoolullah (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam) said: "We do not give the office to one who asks for it or one who desires it." (Saheeh Bukhari Kitab Istitaabatil Murtaddeen Wal Muanideen Wa Qitaalihim).

f) Dissension and disunity is strictly forbidden in Islam whereas in democracy the opposition benches are a pre requisite for any government formation. These opposition members openly dissent with any government policy, in fact they are in the assemblies for this particular function.

g) In Islam it is prohibited to praise oneself and disrespect others whereas in democracy this is an integral part of practice.

h) A number of laws passed by the constituent assemblies are against Islam but are still implemented and practiced openly. This means that the Word of Allah is considered inferior to the word of Man and this is clearly Shirk.

i) Last but not the least, it is known to everyone that the Constitution of any democratic country is considered sacred by its politicians and elected representatives. The violation of the Constitution is considered treason. But if there is any violation of the Book of Allah or the teachings of His prophet Muhammad (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam), it does not create any unrest in the society. Why? This is simply because the Man made Constitution and laws are considered superior or more important than the Law of Allah Subhana hu Wa Ta'ala. Is this Islam? Can Islam ever be preserved along with the democratic institutions of today? For sure, any person with reasonable knowledge of Islam can never take part in the exercise of democracy. But it is tragic that today even the so-called Ulema and scholars openly advocate the cause of democracy.

The above comparison is clear indication that Democracy is absolutely against Islam and there can be no reconciliation between the two in any way. In fact it is a sort of parallel religion to Islam and Islamic values.

If a person thought that ruling in accordance with what Allah has descended is not mandatory and that he has a choice in it, or he belittled it, while certain that it is Allah's judgment, then he has committed Kufr, disbelief.

No one from this Ummah is without fault except the Prophet (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam). And so Allah ordered us, when in conflict, to refer to Him and to His Messenger (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam), and not to refer to anyone else's opinion, saying or laws. Hence it is understood that there can be fault in anyone's sayings except the sayings of Allah and His Messenger (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam). This also indicates that the claim of some sects that their Imams are faultless is baseless and clear Kufr.

Asserting this principle, Imam Malik (Rahmatullah Alaihi) said, "Any one's sayings may be corrected except those of the Prophet (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam)". And similar statements were quoted from Imam Abu Hanifa (Rahmatullah Alaihi), Imam Ahmed Ibn Hambal (Rahmatullah Alaihi), Imam Shafi'ee (Rahmatullah Alaihi) and others although their exact words may differ a little.


Allah says: "If you do not know, ask of those who possess the Message."
(Surah An Nahl ayat 43)

With regards to asking the scholars and referring to them, we caution the Muslims from two types of scholars:

1.Scholars who do not consider the Quran and Sunnah as complete but rather believe that the jurisprudence and conjecture of Man can also be a part of religion. All scholars of sectarian Madahib come under this category. Because if they would have considered the Quran and Ahadeeth as the only and complete sources of Islamic law then these sects would have never ever existed.

2.Scholars who sell themselves for worldly possessions.
Rasoolullah (Sall Allah u Alaihi wa Sallam) said:
"Keenness on money and worldly belongings will ruin someone's religion more
effectively, than a couple of hungry wolves can ruin a herd of sheep, if left alone with it."
(Narrated by Tirmizi and Ibn Habbaan with a Sanad Saheeh)

When people of knowledge prefer this worldly life and love it, they will definitely say, what is not true about Allah, in their judgments, sayings and actions. This is due to the fact that Allah's rulings are not always in accordance with people's desires especially those in positions of power and those who follow dubious paths. Their needs are always fulfilled in disagreement with the Truth. If the scholars and judges have a liking to power and follow dubious paths, they will have their way only by using what opposes the truth.

Thus, it is imperative for Muslims to strictly follow the Quran and Sunnah and not vain desires either of their own or of those they hold in respect. This can only be done by abandoning all Man made laws, which are contradictory to the Shari'ah.

(O prophet!) No, by your Lord, they are not believers until they make you their judge in the disputes that break out between them and then do not resist what you decide and submit themselves [to you] completely. (Surah An-Nisa ayat 65)

May Allah keep us all on the right path. Aameen.
 
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drkjke

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the protests in saudi arabia are at present sectarian based,only one minority sect in east saudia is protesting these days...so calling them a revolution is madness...revolution is when majority wants to rise and till now saudi arabias sunni hanbali majority does not have any problem with the king
the above words i wrote are truth ,but as usual ppl wont like this truth.
 

w-a-n-t-e-d-

Minister (2k+ posts)
behrin main irani agento ki madakhlat or sunniuon ka qatl-e-amm pakistan k musalmano k leyh lamha fikriya hai..

yeh inqilab jo dunya bhar main arahay hain in k peechay amrica israil or iran ka hath hai..

yeh inqilab musalmano k leyh kise torh bhi faida mandh nahi albata musalman mehkoom ban k reh jayingay..

meri dua hai k behrin , saudia or yamen ki afwaj in naam nehad inqilabi irani rawafiz ko kuchal k rakh dayin ameen..
 

Muhammad Tauseef A. Bajwa

Senator (1k+ posts)
behrin main irani agento ki madakhlat or sunniuon ka qatl-e-amm pakistan k musalmano k leyh lamha fikriya hai..

yeh inqilab jo dunya bhar main arahay hain in k peechay amrica israil or iran ka hath hai..

yeh inqilab musalmano k leyh kise torh bhi faida mandh nahi albata musalman mehkoom ban k reh jayingay..

meri dua hai k behrin , saudia or yamen ki afwaj in naam nehad inqilabi irani rawafiz ko kuchal k rakh dayin ameen..

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Having believed that “yeh inqilab Jo dunya bhar main arahay hain in k peechay amrica israil or Iran ka hath hai.”
How could you link it with insurgency in Libya where there is not a SINGLE Shia and innovators (بدعتی) BKKhan” crushing statement stands miles ahead (of other views) on this matter with the saying: “Don’t argue with an idiot,,, he will bring you to his level,,, and will beat you with his experience "
 

Cheeko

Minister (2k+ posts)
As far as political issues are concerned, I have no sympathies with current Saudi Rulers. But from religious point of view, these rulers have done incredible job by keeping the Holy Land clean of all kind of biddat and SHIRK which is widely spread in Pakistan and other Islamic countries.



Do you mean to say that before the Saud family took over Najd and Hejaz the Ottoman Khilafa was involved in shirkia activities.
Or do you mean to say that the ordinary people were committing shirkia activities while the Ottoman Khilafa wasnt taking any action against them and turned a blind eye to their activities.
Do you mean to say that the Khilafat movement that started in subcontinent by Molana Johar was wrong and Molana Johar was supporting the people who were in favour of the shirkia activities.
Do you mean to say that the most of the muslim world were involved in shirkia activities before shaitan sent the Saud family to save the Muslims.
What do you mean clarify immediately.
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
app sub hazraat say guzarish hai kay apni auqat daikh ker IMAM KABAH kay baray mai kuch kahay .

aur iss baat ka faisal koon karay gaa k AWAAM ZALIM HAIN YAH HUKMARAAN plz apnay giraybano mai daikhay aur kisi alim per apnay comments na dey.aur yeh baat app sub k leye BEST HAI.agay appp ki marzi.

Kionkey aap sab se imam e kaaba ziada tankha letey hain.

apney munn band rakhain burey ko bura na kahein ta k kiamat k din hm b us k saath ragrey jaen.
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
وہ قوم کبھی فلاح نہیں پا سکتی جو
اپنے دین کا مذاق اڑاتی ہو،
اپنے علما کی عزت نہیں کرتی ،
اپنے محسنوں کی قدر نہیں کرتی ،
بےجا اپنے حکمرانوں کے خلاف بغاوت کرتی ہو

میرے پاکستانی بھائی جنہے سعودی عرب کی طرز حکمرانی کے بارے میں کچھ نہیں معلوم وہ بھی اپنے آپ کو سعودی رعایا کا ہمدرد اور ساتھی سمجھتے ہیں

سعودی حکمرنوں نے ہمیشہ ساری دنیا میں جہاں مسلمانوں کو مشکل میں پایا مدد کی ہے
ہم پاکستانی کتنے عرصے مفت سعودی پٹرول کے مزے لوٹتے رہے
کیا ہم اتنے احسان فراموش میں ؟؟
دوسروں کو چھوڑ دیں صرف پاکستان کی بات کریں
جب بھی پاکستان کو ضرورت پڑی سب سے پہلے اور سب سے زیادہ مدد کس نے کی ؟
پاکستان جب بھی جنگ کی حالت میں تھا ہماری مدد ہر لحاظ سے کس نے کی ؟
پاکستان میں جب بھی سیلاب آے - مدد کس نے کی ؟
پاکستان میں جب زلزلہ آیا - مدد کس نے کی ؟
کیا کیا گئنیں گے

کیا ہم اتنے پڑے احسان فراموش ہیں
کیا ہم اتنے بڑے منافق ہیں
کیا ہم اپنے مخلص دوست ، بھائی کی پیٹھ میں خنجر گھوپنے کے لئے تیار ہیں

کل ہمارا ساتھ کون دیگا ؟
کل ہم پر اعتبار کون کرے گا ؟

ہنود، یہود اور نصاریٰ کے دھوکے میں ہم کس قدر آسانی سے آ جاتے ہیں
شاید وہی ہمارے خیر خوه ہیں

چلو بھائیوں خوش ہو جو ان کے جوتے چاٹ کر کہ وہی روز قیامت میں بھی ہمارے مشکل کشا ہونگے

aap apna rizk halal kr rahey hain jo aapko saudion se milta he kionkey vo apkey razzak hain.

hm apna vo rizk halal kr rahein hain jo hmain Allah deta he kionkey Allah hmara razzak he.

Ye Allah hi tha jis ne Musa a.s ko firone k ghar me pala ye Allah hi he ju pakistan ko saudi ore american se imdad dilva k paal raha he.

aik baat ka jawab to do ye tumharey wahabi aal e saud kaisey iqtedaar me aie????

aik thread bnao na inkey karnamo k barey main.

kia inho ne khilafat nhi toreeee?????

pakistan me in wahabi dehshat gardoon k peechey kon he ????????

shariat ki baat krtey ho shariat logo k haath katney se nhi ateee.

ye btao american army ko sharab ore larkian kon provide krta he ??????

ye zina ore sharab unkey liaey kis ne halal keee??????

ye b btana islam kia kehta he sharab ore zina me fascilitators k barey main.

pakistan me wahabism kon phela raha he????

pakistan me extremist mullah ko kon fund kr raha he????

plz make a thread on your favourite aaal e saud's background
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
behrin main irani agento ki madakhlat or sunniuon ka qatl-e-amm pakistan k musalmano k leyh lamha fikriya hai..

yeh inqilab jo dunya bhar main arahay hain in k peechay amrica israil or iran ka hath hai..

yeh inqilab musalmano k leyh kise torh bhi faida mandh nahi albata musalman mehkoom ban k reh jayingay..

meri dua hai k behrin , saudia or yamen ki afwaj in naam nehad inqilabi irani rawafiz ko kuchal k rakh dayin ameen..

ore jo pakistan me shia or sunnion pe hamley kiaey ja raheiin hain unkey peechey kon beghart hain.???????????