How to Identify Terrorist Khwariji Takfeeris? دہشت گرد خارجیوں کی پہچان

c4cheema

MPA (400+ posts)
abb aap khud ankhain bund kr lo to main kia keh sakta hoon ............. aap mufti hongey lakin apney ghar me mujhey aap se fatwa nhi chahiey.

aree yaar riksona sabun lagaya huaaa ha haath hi nahi a rahay

mujay ya bataooo TTP ko kis na banay kia wo Pakistan main hoood ba hoood paida ho gaee

Hamari agencies ka sab se ziada hold Northern areas main ha ab ya to ho nahi sakta un ko pata na hooo or TTP be ban jaee
chalo ban gaee Agencies khula ka un ko expose kion nahi kerti .... un ka agents ko pakrain or awam ko batain in ka taluk kis se tha


bari simple se baat ha tumharee musharaf na inocent pakhtoonoo ko pehlay mara or pher america/india ko ijazat di ka a ker TTP banaee
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Assalam-o-alaikum
I agree to brother C4CHEEMA to some extent.
Point is not that we are defending any BRUTAL, CRUEL & FITNA group, point is WHERE WERE OUR AGENCIES & ARMY when they were organizing. Why we are doing AMAAN KI AASHA, INDIA AS FAVOURITE TRADE COUNTRY, ACCEPTING ISRAEL & OPENING OF EMBASSY IN PAKISTAN (MUSH era), SECRET RELEASE OF RAYMOND DAVIS, list go on, when we hear from them that these terrorists are CIA, MOSSAD, RAW, KGB assets..
Why these terrorist were allowed to make so long tunnels in the mountains...
About sectarian issue, i dont want to go into that..
So can someone explain this angle..
Jaza-k-ALLAH..
 
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samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
aree yaar riksona sabun lagaya huaaa ha haath hi nahi a rahay

mujay ya bataooo TTP ko kis na banay kia wo Pakistan main hoood ba hoood paida ho gaee

Hamari agencies ka sab se ziada hold Northern areas main ha ab ya to ho nahi sakta un ko pata na hooo or TTP be ban jaee
chalo ban gaee Agencies khula ka un ko expose kion nahi kerti .... un ka agents ko pakrain or awam ko batain in ka taluk kis se tha


bari simple se baat ha tumharee musharaf na inocent pakhtoonoo ko pehlay mara or pher america/india ko ijazat di ka a ker TTP banaee

TTP k peechey america he india he?????????

abdullah mehsood guantanamo bay me qaid tha vahan se reha kia gaya ore atey hi us ne chinese engineer agva kiaey aab khud andaza kr lo unkey peechey kon he ISI ya CIA........

Who killed colonel imam jo k afghani taliban ka imam tha ..........hakeem ullah mehsood ne katal kia youtube pe video paree ho gee daikh lena............

ye saree btain sirf tum log is liaey krtey ho k in zalimo ko bacha sako
 

Knowledge Seeker

Senator (1k+ posts)
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Today Madina-e-Sani (Pakistan) is facing the fitna created by Kharjis of Tehreek-e-Talibaan Pakistan and we are bleeding. May Allah (SWT) forgive our sins as a nation, and help our armed forces eradicate this fitna from its roots.​

Jazak Allah brother wadaich for an excellent and informative post. Actions of Tehreek Taliban Pakistan has nothing to do with Islam and Jihad and there shouldn't be any confusion about TTP being Kharji fitna of present time.

May Allah protect Pakistan from internal and external enemies.
 
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Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
TTP k peechey america he india he?????????

abdullah mehsood guantanamo bay me qaid tha vahan se reha kia gaya ore atey hi us ne chinese engineer agva kiaey aab khud andaza kr lo unkey peechey kon he ISI ya CIA........

Who killed colonel imam jo k afghani taliban ka imam tha ..........hakeem ullah mehsood ne katal kia youtube pe video paree ho gee daikh lena............

ye saree btain sirf tum log is liaey krtey ho k in zalimo ko bacha sako

Jazakallah Brother. It seems you shall make the Takfeeri stooges on this forum run with tails in their hind legs.
 

alibaba222

Minister (2k+ posts)
rawafiz ko talban say takleef he tu kohed ja ker lary un say ,yaha internet per beyth ker tabsary kerna boht asan he ,ye rawafiz (khargi) yahoodi nasal ko cahye pehly islam ka lebada utarey pher bat kery
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
May Allah (SWT) increase our Eeman and knowledge of Deen Islam Aameen. We should not comment or criticize or say anything unless we are 100% sure it is correct, because wherever it leads will be written to our account. From my point of view and watching many videos about 9/11 and other incidents, TTP is a myth and creation of CIA, which is very much used against Pakistan and to do other operations. I have also heard that many of them captured were not even circumcised, so how could they be Muslim. We are surrounded by many open enemies (India, Israel) and many friends like enemies (US, West etc...) even Afghanis consider us as their enemy whom we supported for so long. May Allah (SWT) grant us power and victory against enemies of Islam and Pakistan Aameen. :jazak:
 

c4cheema

MPA (400+ posts)
TTP k peechey america he india he?????????

abdullah mehsood guantanamo bay me qaid tha vahan se reha kia gaya ore atey hi us ne chinese engineer agva kiaey aab khud andaza kr lo unkey peechey kon he ISI ya CIA........

Who killed colonel imam jo k afghani taliban ka imam tha ..........hakeem ullah mehsood ne katal kia youtube pe video paree ho gee daikh lena............

ye saree btain sirf tum log is liaey krtey ho k in zalimo ko bacha sako
O mian grow up
meray sawal ka jawab nahi ha
Col Imam Afthani Taliban :D :D what a joke ... sarkar wo ISI ka worker tha or us ki last video main us ka confession be sun lana hamari agencies ka bare main kia kaha us na

main bar bar keh raha hooon ka main TTP ko justify ya defend nahi ker raha
mujay ya bataoo TTP ka name per army na kitnay innocent maray un ko koon justify keray ga
12 lake family sawat se nikalay gaee un ka koon zumaidar ha

brother meri family be tum logon ki terha Punjab main safe ha laken mujay dar ha ka ALLAH un masoom jo ko bagair kisi waja ka is jung ka his banay un ka hissaab ham se la gay
TTP or is jase tanzeemon ko hatam kernay ka 1 hi tareeqa ha
har Forigen agents ka 2 din main juram sabit karoo or sare aap phansi do
Davis ki terha protocol da ker raha na karo
 
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pakiz

Citizen
baki baten to 1 taraf mujy to yeh hairat ho rahi hai k dr. israr k hawalay aur uskay dalael py yaken (mein ny na suna hai na sun'na chahta hun), jis shakhs ko khud islam ka thk sy nhi pta wo ksi ko kia islam btaey ga. jisy waris-e-Qur'an ka nhi pta wo kia tafseer-e-Qur'an btaey ga.

or alibaba sahab ap ko shaed confusion h yeh khwrijion ny Hazrat ALI sy jang ki thi or naozubillah Hazrat ALI ko kafr kaha tha, revise ur history plz.
 

FaisalLatif

Councller (250+ posts)


اگر یہ الله اور رسول کے نظام کی بات کرنے والے اتنے برے لوگ ہیں اور منافق ہیں آپ کے بقول تو آپ ہی بہتر اور مثالی مسلمان بن کر دوسروں کے لیے موڈل بن جائیں


Canada may aaram say baith kar ye baatain aasan hai. Jis ka bacha, waalidain or bhai bahen in kay zulm ka nishaana banay hai un say poochiay
 

mhwaqar

Citizen
Yar ak to meri yae bat samajh ma nahi ati ka in khabees taliban ka Pakistan ma himayat kon begharat karta hay sharam ani chahiay inlogon ko jo in zameer faroshon ki himayat kartay hain kia yae nahi delkhtay ka masajidon per dargahon per kon 100 100 log qatal kar raha hay kia andhay hain ab yae nahi kehna ka yae black water hay ager kisi na yae kaha to phir jan lo ka black water hi taliban hay kionka koi gora sahab akar nahi maar raha yahi hamarey darion walay namazi parhezgar hi qatal o gharat ka bazar garam kiay hoey hain
 

usmanjee786

MPA (400+ posts)
You lost da plot man.............
may admin say derkhawast keroo ga is post ko delete ker day is may hazrat ali (r a) ke shan may gustakhi ho rahee he , bahi nay jo pic lagye he hazrat ali ka ishara in ke taraf nahee he , app talabn ko jo merzi kahye mager hazrat ali ( r a ) ka name isltamal na kery
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Who are "Khwarij" according to authentic Hadeeths

Yusair b. 'Amr reported that he inquired of Sahl b. Hunaif: Did you hear the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) making a mention of the Khwarij? He said: I heard him say (and he pointed with his hand towards the east) that these would be a people who would recite the Qur'an with their tongues and it would not go beyond their collar bones. They would pass clean through their religion just as the arrow passes through the prey. (Sahih Muslim; Book #005, Hadith #2336)

Narrated Yusair bin 'Amr: I asked Sahl bin Hunaif, "Did you hear the Prophet saying anything about Al-Khawarij?" He said, "I heard him saying while pointing his hand towards Iraq. "There will appear in it (i.e, Iraq) some people who will recite the Quran but it will not go beyond their throats, and they will go out from (leave) Islam as an arrow darts through the game's body.' " (Sahih Bukhari; Book #84, Hadith #68)

Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri: The Prophet said, "There will emerge from the East some people who will recite the Qur'an but it will not exceed their throats and who will go out of (renounce) the religion (Islam) as an arrow passes through the game, and they will never come back to it unless the arrow, comes back to the middle of the bow (by itself) (i.e., impossible). The people asked, "What will their signs be?" He said, "Their sign will be the habit of shaving (of their beards). (Fateh Al-Bari, Page 322, Vol. 17th) (Sahih Bukhari; Book #93, Hadith #651)

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said, "I have been made victorious with As-Saba (i.e. an easterly wind) and the people of 'Ad were destroyed by Ad-Dabur (i.e. a westerly wind)." Narrated Abu Said: Ali sent a piece of gold to the Prophet who distributed it among four persons: Al-Aqra' bin Habis Al-Hanzali from the tribe of Mujashi, 'Uyaina bin Badr Al-Fazari, Zaid At-Ta'i who belonged to (the tribe of) Bani Nahban, and 'Alqama bin Ulatha Al-'Amir who belonged to (the tribe of) Bani Kilab. So the Quraish and the Ansar became angry and said, "He (i.e. the Prophet, ) gives the chief of Najd and does not give us." The Prophet said, "I give them) so as to attract their hearts (to Islam)." Then a man with sunken eyes, prominent checks, a raised forehead, a thick beard and a shaven head, came (in front of the Prophet ) and said, "Be afraid of Allah, O Muhammad!" The Prophet ' said "Who would obey Allah if I disobeyed Him? (Is it fair that) Allah has trusted all the people of the earth to me while, you do not trust me?" Somebody who, I think was Khalid bin Al-Walid, requested the Prophet to let him chop that man's head off, but he prevented him. When the man left, the Prophet said, "Among the off-spring of this man will be some who will recite the Qur'an but the Qur'an will not reach beyond their throats (i.e. they will recite like parrots and will not understand it nor act on it), and they will renegade from the religion as an arrow goes through the game's body. They will kill the Muslims but will not disturb the idolaters. If I should live up to their time' I will kill them as the people of 'Ad were killed (i.e. I will kill all of them)." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #55, Hadith #558)

Abu Said al-Khudri reported: 'Ali b. Abu Talib sent to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) from Yemen some gold alloyed with clay in a leather bag dyed in the leaves of Mimosa flava. He distributed it among four men. 'Uyaina b. Hisna, Aqra' b. Habis and Zaid al-Khail, and the fourth one was either Alqama b. 'Ulatha or 'Amir b. Tufail. A person from among his (Prophet's) Companions said: We had a better claim to this (wealth) than these (persons). This (remark) reached the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) upon which he said: Will you not trust me, whereas I am a trustee of Him Who is in the heaven? The news come to me from the heaven morning and evening. Then there stood up a person with deep sunken eyes, prominent cheek bones, and elevated forehead, thick beard, shaven head, tucked up loin cloth, and he said: Messenger of Allah, fear Allah. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Woe to thee. do I not deserve most to fear Allah amongst the people of the earth? That man then returned. Khalid b. Walid then said: Messenger of Allah, should I not strike his neck? Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) said: Perhaps he may be observing the prayer. Khalid said: How many observers of prayer are there who profess with their tongue what is not in their heart? Upon this the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I have not been commanded to pierce through the hearts of people, nor to split their bellies (insides). He again looked at him and he was going back. Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) said: There would arise a people from the progeny of this (man) who would recite the Qur'an glibly, but it would not go beyond their throats; they would (hurriedly) pass through (the teachings of their) religion just as the arrow passes through the prey. I conceive that he (the Holy Prophet) also said this: If I find them I would certainly kill them as were killed the (people of) Thamud. (Sahih Muslim; Book #005, Hadith #2319)

Abu Salama and 'Ata' b. Yasar came to Abu Sa'id al-Khudri and asked him about Haruriya, saying: Did you hear the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) making a mention of them? He (Abu Sai'd al-Khudri) said: I don't know who the Haruriya are, but I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: There would arise in this nation (and he did not say" out of them" ) a people and you would hold insignificant your prayers as compared with their prayers. And they would recite the Qur'an which would not go beyond their throats and would swerve through the religion (as blank) just as a (swift) arrow passes through the prey. The archer looks at his arrow, at its iron head and glances at its end (which he held) in the tip of his fingers to see whether it had any stain of blood. (Sahih Muslim; Book #005, Hadith #2322)

'Ali said: Whenever I narrate to you anything from the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) believe it to be absolutely true as falling from the sky is dearer to me than that of attributing anything to him (the Holy Prophet) which he never said. When I talk to you of anything which is between me and you (there might creep some error in it) for battle is an outwitting. I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: There would arise at the end of the age a people who would be young in age and immature in thought, but they would talk (in such a manner) as if their words are the best among the creatures. They would recite the Qur'an, but it would not go beyond their throats, and they would pass through the religion as an arrow goes through the prey. So when you meet them, kill them, for in their killing you would get a reward with Allah on the Day of judgmelat. (Sahih Muslim; Book #005, Hadith #2328)

Abu Dharr reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Verily there would arise from my Ummah after me or soon after me a group (of people) who would recite the Qar'an, but it would not go beyond their throats, and they would pass clean through their religion just as the arrow passes through the prey, and they would never come back to it. They would be the worst among the creation and the creatures. Ibn Samit (one of the narrators) said: I met Rafi' b. 'Amr Ghifari, the brother of Al-Hakam Ghifari and I said: What is this hadith that I heard from Abu Dharr, i. e. so and so? -and then I narrated that hadith to him and said: I heard it from the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). (Sahih Muslim; Book #005, Hadith #2335)

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: While we were with Allah's Apostle who was distributing (i.e. some property), there came Dhu-l-Khuwaisira, a man from the tribe of Bani Tamim and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Do Justice." The Prophet said, "Woe to you! Who could do justice if I did not? I would be a desperate loser if I did not do justice." 'Umar said, "O Allah's Apostle! Allow me to chop his head off." The Prophet said, "Leave him, for he has companions who pray and fast in such a way that you will consider your fasting negligible in comparison to theirs. They recite Qur'an but it does not go beyond their throats (i.e. they do not act on it) and they will desert Islam as an arrow goes through a victim's body, so that the hunter, on looking at the arrow's blade, would see nothing on it; he would look at its Risaf and see nothing: he would look at its Na,di and see nothing, and he would look at its Qudhadh ( 1 ) and see nothing (neither meat nor blood), for the arrow has been too fast even for the blood and excretions to smear. The sign by which they will be recognized is that among them there will be a black man, one of whose arms will resemble a woman's breast or a lump of meat moving loosely. Those people will appear when there will be differences amongst the people." I testify that I heard this narration from Allah's Apostle and I testify that 'Ali bin Abi Talib fought with such people, and I was in his company. He ordered that the man (described by the Prophet ) should be looked for. The man was brought and I looked at him and noticed that he looked exactly as the Prophet had described him. (Sahih Bukhari; Book #56, Hadith #807)

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Yasar: That they visited Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri and asked him about Al-Harauriyya, a special unorthodox religious sect, "Did you hear the Prophet saying anything about them?" Abu Sa'id said, "I do not know what Al-Harauriyya is, but I heard the Prophet saying, "There will appear in this nation---- he did not say: From this nation ---- a group of people so pious apparently that you will consider your prayers inferior to their prayers, but they will recite the Quran, the teachings of which will not go beyond their throats and will go out of their religion as an arrow darts through the game, whereupon the archer may look at his arrow, its Nasl at its Risaf and its Fuqa to see whether it is blood-stained or not (i.e. they will have not even a trace of Islam in them)." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #84, Hadith #65)

Narrated 'Ali: I relate the traditions of Allah's Apostle to you for I would rather fall from the sky than attribute something to him falsely. But when I tell you a thing which is between you and me, then no doubt, war is guile. I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "In the last days of this world there will appear some young foolish people who will use (in their claim) the best speech of all people (i.e. the Qur'an) and they will abandon Islam as an arrow going through the game. Their belief will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have practically no belief), so wherever you meet them, kill them, for he who kills them shall get a reward on the Day of Resurrection." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #56, Hadith #808)

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: 'Ali bin Abi Talib sent a piece of gold not yet taken out of its ore, in a tanned leather container to Allah's Apostle . Allah's Apostle distributed that amongst four Persons: 'Uyaina bin Badr, Aqra bin Habis, Zaid Al-Khail and the fourth was either Alqama or Amir bin At Tufail. On that, one of his companions said, "We are more deserving of this (gold) than these (persons)." When that news reached the Prophet , he said, "Don't you trust me though I am the truth worthy man of the One in the Heavens, and I receive the news of Heaven (i.e. Divine Inspiration) both in the morning and in the evening?" There got up a man with sunken eyes, raised cheek bones, raised forehead, a thick beard, a shaven head and a waist sheet that was tucked up and he said, "O Allah's Apostle! Be afraid of Allah." The Prophet said, "Woe to you! Am I not of all the people of the earth the most entitled to fear Allah?" Then that man went away. Khalid bin Al-Wahd said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall I chop his neck off?" The Prophet said, "No, for he may offer prayers." Khalid said, "Numerous are those who offer prayers and say by their tongues (i.e. mouths) what is not in their hearts." Allah's Apostle said, "I have not been ordered (by Allah) to search the hearts of the people or cut open their bellies." Then the Prophet looked at him (i.e. that man) while the latter was going away and said, "From the offspring of this (man there will come out (people) who will recite the Qur'an continuously and elegantly but it will not exceed their throats. (They will neither understand it nor act upon it). They would go out of the religion (i.e. Islam) as an arrow goes through a game's body." I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #59, Hadith #638)

Narrated 'Ali: I heard the Prophet saying, "In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #61, Hadith #577)

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "There will appear some people among you whose prayer will make you look down upon yours, and whose fasting will make you look down upon yours, but they will recite the Qur'an which will not exceed their throats (they will not act on it) and they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out through the game whereupon the archer would examine the arrowhead but see nothing, and look at the unfeathered arrow but see nothing, and look at the arrow feathers but see nothing, and finally he suspects to find something in the lower part of the arrow." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #61, Hadith #578)

Narrated 'Ali: Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #84, Hadith #64)

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Yasar: That they visited Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri and asked him about Al-Harauriyya, a special unorthodox religious sect, "Did you hear the Prophet saying anything about them?" Abu Sa'id said, "I do not know what Al-Harauriyya is, but I heard the Prophet saying, "There will appear in this nation---- he did not say: From this nation ---- a group of people so pious apparently that you will consider your prayers inferior to their prayers, but they will recite the Quran, the teachings of which will not go beyond their throats and will go out of their religion as an arrow darts through the game, whereupon the archer may look at his arrow, its Nasl at its Risaf and its Fuqa to see whether it is blood-stained or not (i.e. they will have not even a trace of Islam in them)." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #84, Hadith #65)

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: When 'Ali was in Yemen, he sent some gold in its ore to the Prophet. The Prophet distributed it among Al-Aqra' bin Habis Al-Hanzali who belonged to Bani Mujashi, 'Uyaina bin Badr Al-Fazari, 'Alqama bin 'Ulatha Al-'Amiri, who belonged to the Bani Kilab tribe and Zaid AI-Khail At-Ta'i who belonged to Bani Nabhan. So the Quraish and the Ansar became angry and said, "He gives to the chiefs of Najd and leaves us!" The Prophet said, "I just wanted to attract and unite their hearts (make them firm in Islam)." Then there came a man with sunken eyes, bulging forehead, thick beard, fat raised cheeks, and clean-shaven head, and said, "O Muhammad! Be afraid of Allah! " The Prophet said, "Who would obey Allah if I disobeyed Him? (Allah). He trusts me over the people of the earth, but you do not trust me?" A man from the people (present then), who, I think, was Khalid bin Al-Walid, asked for permission to kill him, but the Prophet prevented him. When the man went away, the Prophet said, "Out of the offspring of this man, there will be people who will recite the Quran but it will not go beyond their throats, and they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out through the game, and they will kill the Muslims and leave the idolators. Should I live till they appear, I would kill them as the Killing of the nation of 'Ad." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #93, Hadith #527)

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