How is this blasphemy?

[Muqadas]

Just show me the press conference where Dr Mazari has said that Geo should be banned ..Dr Mazari only condemned it just like or Abid Sher Ali is condemning it right now..khuda ka wasta hai being anti pti doesn't mean that you should lie and distort facts to drag pti in all matters

Shireen Mazari say to PTI kay apnay worker tang hain

 

[ali-raj]

1)A) On the name of Fatima R.A , focusing Veena Malik specifically is wrong. cause it is impelling that a deliberate comparison is made. Which is totally Wrong.
1)B) If a prostitute name is ayesha or fatima, it doesn't mean anything. as she wasn't given name after her profession, but at birth. No comparison made.

2)A) No it isn't blashpemous there. As per Maulana Kamali, those are Kaneez Fatima girls, and the qawaali is ok for them.
2)B) This typical Qawalai wording in its whole are blasphemous.

3)Every other person claims to be sayyed. Its there claim, not ours. As per the saying of Naib Kareem pbuh , they are not above any one, only takwah is what makes a person more pious and prominent then others.

4) Yes. Any qawali, wording, story, which claims extra ordinary actions related only to Nabian -e - Allah, teethered with other buzurgs etc, are blasphemous. However, Naat/Qawwali like "Ya Rasool Allah, teri Daar ki Chahon ko Salam" , where Naatkhowan is appreciating and showing his love towards every thing related to Nabi Kareem pbuh is not blasphemous, but a very pious way of expressing feelings (Although, Darud e Ibrahimin is the best)

5)I haven't heard the qawaali, so i cannot say anything about it. but #4 is the basis of considering it otherwise.

6) Nikah means, that prostitute is leaving the Lanati profession and going for a proper pious life. So no need of seperate dua. By the way, All dua's are not necessary for Nikah, they are sunnah, not farz.

7) No it isn't. But as Muslims, we are prohibited from taking/calling derogatory names of any one.

For the End. Most people are pointing finger at the comparison made during the show, and showing shoes while Nabi Kareem pbuh name is recited. In my opinion, blasphemic content is in the Qawaali , which is more severe then the show.

 

[FAISAL315]

Totally agree with ur comments..i think with geo they must ban ARY and SAMAA too. if they feel it is real blasphamy

 

[mehwish_ali]

1)A) On the name of Fatima R.A , focusing Veena Malik specifically is wrong. cause it is impelling that a deliberate comparison is made. Which is totally Wrong.
1)B) If a prostitute name is ayesha or fatima, it doesn't mean anything. as she wasn't given name after her profession, but at birth. No comparison made.

ایسا کوئی اصول سرے سے موجود نہیں کہ اگر کسی نے فاطمہ کے نام پر وینا ملک کو فوکس کر دیا تو اسکا مطلب ہے کہ وینا ملک کو فاطمہ زہرا بنایا جا رہا ہے۔

اگر فوکس کرنے کا مقصد صرف یہ دکھانا ہے کہ یہ کنیز فاطمہ فقط فاطمہ کی سنت پر چلتے ہوئے رشتہ ازدواج میں بندھ رہی ہے، تو اس میں کوئی مضائقہ نہیں۔

چنانچہ اعمال کا دارومدار کرنے والے کی نیت پر ہے، اور ہم کوئی نہیں ہوتے جو کسی کی نیت، کسی کے دل کے حال پر کوئی فتوی لگائیں۔

چنانچہ اس مسئلہ میں کسی قسم کا بھی "انتہا پسند" قدم اٹھانا لغو ہے۔ زیادہ سے زیادہ ان لوگوں کو یہ "تبلیغ" کی جا سکتی ہے کہ وہ زیادہ ادب سے کام لیں ۔

یہ بات بغیر کسی شک و شبہ کے سب مان رہے ہیں کہ ان لوگوں کی نیت ہرگز ہرگز تضحیک کرنے کی نہیں تھی، بلکہ اپنی عقیدت میں یہ لوگ بطور تبرک یہ قصیدہ سن رہے تھے۔ چنانچہ اگر ان سے کم علمی کی وجہ سے کوئی غلطی بھی ہوئی ہے، تو اسکا حل لٹھ لے کر پیچھے پڑ جانا نہیں ہے، بلکہ تبلیغ کے ذریعے حسن کے ساتھ نصیحت کرنا ہے۔

 

[arkmsksh]

Grreattt and impressive reply dear... :)

 

[sngilani]

It is the way the presented the programm constitutes blasphehmy. Shaistaa was waving shoes over the head when the name of Ali comes. All were dancing with vulgar moves and the camera was moving on the faces of Bridegroom and Bride when Ali:Allaih: and Zuhra's (RA) names came in the Kalaam.

 

[rahat]

Not only against Geo, but action and case under blasphemy should be registered against all channels involved in it including writer (poet), singers, musicians, actors ulma's and peoples who are supporting the contents. This and all others such type of materials must be banned in all functions and parties.

 

[Qarar]

@Theekra

اچھا پوسٹ ہے اور اچھے سوالات ہیں ...لیکن سب سے زیادہ مجھے آپ کی حکمت عملی نے متاثر کیا ....آپ نے یہ چبھتے هوئے سوالات کرنے سے پہلے ہی موقع محل کی مناسبت سے یہ ضروری فقرہ تحریر کیا


For the frenzied, hurt 'Muslims', I as a practicing Muslim, have a few questions


اپنے اسلام پر تصدیقی مہر ثبت کرنے کے بعد آپ کے بلاسفیمی کے بارے میں کیے گئے سوالات نے اس فورم کے اسلام پسندوں کو اپنے جامے سے باہر نہیں آنے دیا ......وہ اسی تذبذب میں ہیں کہ ایک مسلمان بھائی کو آڑے ہاتھوں لیا جاۓ یا نہیں ...میں یقین سے کہ سکتا ہوں کہ اگر یہ فقرہ نہ لکھا جاتا تو آپ پر شیعہ ، احمدی ، یہودی ، مرتد وغیرہ کے لیبل لگ چکے ہوتے


اس تھریڈ سے مجھے ایک پرانی بات یاد آئی کہ ایک غیر مسلم نے ایک مسلمان سے پوچھا کہ کیا عربی ، اردو، یا کسی اور زبان میں مذہبی ڈسکشن کرنے کی کوئی اصطلاح یا لفظ ہے ؟


اس پر مسلمان نے جواب دیا کہ ...جی ہاں ایک لفظ ہے ....البلاسفیمی

 

[ali-raj]

ایسا کوئی اصول سرے سے موجود نہیں کہ اگر کسی نے فاطمہ کے نام پر وینا ملک کو فوکس کر دیا تو اسکا مطلب ہے کہ وینا ملک کو فاطمہ زہرا بنایا جا رہا ہے۔

اگر فوکس کرنے کا مقصد صرف یہ دکھانا ہے کہ یہ کنیز فاطمہ فقط فاطمہ کی سنت پر چلتے ہوئے رشتہ ازدواج میں بندھ رہی ہے، تو اس میں کوئی مضائقہ نہیں۔

چنانچہ اعمال کا دارومدار کرنے والے کی نیت پر ہے، اور ہم کوئی نہیں ہوتے جو کسی کی نیت، کسی کے دل کے حال پر کوئی فتوی لگائیں۔

چنانچہ اس مسئلہ میں کسی قسم کا بھی "انتہا پسند" قدم اٹھانا لغو ہے۔ زیادہ سے زیادہ ان لوگوں کو یہ "تبلیغ" کی جا سکتی ہے کہ وہ زیادہ ادب سے کام لیں ۔

یہ بات بغیر کسی شک و شبہ کے سب مان رہے ہیں کہ ان لوگوں کی نیت ہرگز ہرگز تضحیک کرنے کی نہیں تھی، بلکہ اپنی عقیدت میں یہ لوگ بطور تبرک یہ قصیدہ سن رہے تھے۔ چنانچہ اگر ان سے کم علمی کی وجہ سے کوئی غلطی بھی ہوئی ہے، تو اسکا حل لٹھ لے کر پیچھے پڑ جانا نہیں ہے، بلکہ تبلیغ کے ذریعے حسن کے ساتھ نصیحت کرنا ہے۔

Have i said anywhere that its a RULE?

This is what was shown on that show. It isn't my interpretation. It is what people thought of it.

By the way, if someone show a Wild Boar Picture, while Altaf Hussain is giving Speech on TV, What will be your immediate Reaction towards it?

Offcourse, you won't react to it, cause Wild Boar is not compared to Altaf Hussain or vice versa. It is going to be a honest mistake.

 

[crankthskunk]

جیو کا معاملہ "توہین اہل بیت" کا نہیں بلکہ "توہین آئی ایس آئی" کا ہے ورنہ یہی قوالی
پر بھی چل چکی ہے ARY اور Samaa ​

Now that you have said it, it is confirmed then. Are you gonna get a bonus after proving it to everyone (At least in your head)?
I am still laughing from your comments that you are a PTI supporter. Man some people are just shameless.

 

[Muqadas]

Now that you have said it, it is confirmed then. Are you gonna get a bonus after proving it to everyone (At least in your head)?
I am still laughing from your comments that you are a PTI supporter. Man some people are just shameless.

:-) LOL

so by supporting GEO, in your eyes, I have automatically become anti-PTI?

Amazing (clap)

 

[1234567]

:I think the qawwali itself is wrong: spot on

 

[handsome.ebi]

:-) LOL so by supporting GEO, in your eyes, I have automatically become anti-PTI? Amazing (clap)

obviously, geo news passes whole day bashing imran khan and imran does the same, if u r anti pti its ur ryt i hv no issue with it but how can u support both at the same time?? for me it doesnt make any sense

 

[Omrkhan]

Can we stop writing the names of our beloved personalities with these showbiz creatures. Kindly don't even write names in same line, same page.

 

[Muqadas]

obviously, geo news passes whole day bashing imran khan and imran does the same, if u r anti pti its ur ryt i hv no issue with it but how can u support both at the same time?? for me it doesnt make any sense

OK

So basically, because of Imran Khan I once hated following persons

Sheikh Rasheed (Sheeda Talli according to Khan sb)
Pervaiz Illahi (Punjab ka Sab say bara Daku according to Khan sb)
Chaudhary Shujaat etc.

But now because khan sb is in love with them, so I should also start loving Sheikh Rasheed and Pervaiz Illahi?

Just asking.

 

[handsome.ebi]

OK So basically, because of Imran Khan I once hated Sheikh Rasheed (Sheeda Talli according to Khan sb) Pervaiz Illahi (Punjab ka Sab say bara Daku according to Khan sb) Chaudhary Shujaat etc. But now because khan sb is in love with them, so I should also start loving Sheikh Rasheed and Pervaiz Illahi? Just asking.

it means imran khan always takes u turn, so how can u support such person???

 

[Muqadas]

it means imran khan always takes u turn, so how can u support such person???

That is exactly my point.

I voted for PTI. The Vision and Dream of Insaaf.
I did not vote for Imran Khan.

PTI is not my religion. and Imran Khan is not a prophet.
Imran Khan cannot dictate me what to eat, what to drink, what to watch.

I'll decide what to think and how to think.
I'll decide what channel to watch and when to watch.

thanks

 

[handsome.ebi]

That is exactly my point. I voted for PTI. The Vision and Dream of Insaaf. I did not vote for Imran Khan. PTI is not my religion. and Imran Khan is not a prophet. Imran Khan cannot dictate me what to eat, what to drink, what to watch. I'll decide what to think and how to think. I'll decide what channel to watch and when to watch. thanks

so u r saying imran khan and pti r 2 difrnt thngs?? intrstng, u hv all the ryt to like/dislike whtever u want, the only objection i hv is that be at one side, u cant support 2 extrms at the same time

 

[Aik_Sawal]

@ THEEKRA Your Answers brother are here!!! And I will try to be logical as well as referring to the Holy Quran & SAHIH AHADITHS as well!!!!! ANSWER # 1 It is different that one says his/her name is Fatima or Mohammad or Khadija or Ayesha than if one says that he or she is like Fatima (RA) or Mohammad (SAW) nauzubillah!!! no one argues on names but if you actually ask a vulgar personality to be like one of pious one!!!!! ANSWER # 2 As no one can be like Fatima (RA) or ALI (RA) hence the qawwali played in marriages & referring to bride & groom as Fatima (RA) or ALI (RA) is also blasphemous!!!!! ANSWER # 3 As per the holy Quran and Sahih Ahdith the only justification for superiority is "TAQWAH" jaisa k AAP (SAW) ne irshad farmaya "Kisi arabi ko kisi ajami par or kisi ajami ko kisi arabi par koi foqiyat nahe magar taqwa pa"! hence any one claiming just on the basis of progency is against Holy Quran & Sahih Ahadith!!!!!! ANSWER 4!!!! Yes if any one compares any one with Prophet Mohammad (SAW) in such a way that he gives him the same status as Mohammad (SAW) is committing blasphemy!! Irshad hua "Tum men sa koi shakhs us waqt tak momin nahe ho sakta jab tak ALLAH or US k Rasool (SAW) ki mohabbat us ki har cheez or har kisi sa zyada na ho" AL QURAN!!!! ANSWER 5! The qawwali is not ALLAH HOO ALLAH HOO but "TUM IK GORAKH DHANDA HO" meaning "No one can capture ALLAH in his senses that's what the poet of that qawwali referring to that I cant understand what is this same as in shikwa by ALLAMA IQBAL! I recommend you to listen the whlole qawwali carefully no where he has compared the two loves all he is saying that I cant understand all this due to my limitations!!!! ANSWER 6!!!!! Because ALLAH asks us to hate the "JURM" not the "MUJRIM". JURM sa nafrat karo MUJRIM sa nahe MUJRIM ko saza k bad muafi ha!!!! Lekin SAZA k baad har gunah baghair saza k muaf nahe kiya ja sakta!!!!!! ANSWER 7 !!!!! "It is blasphemous to call any person by derogatory and disrespectful nick names as per Sahih Ahadih it is a makrooh AMAL!!!!! HOPE THAT THIS EXPLANATION WILL SUFFICE THE PURPOSE

Excellent use of paragraph spacing and the enter key.

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[Aik_Sawal]

Can we stop writing the names of our beloved personalities with these showbiz creatures. Kindly don't even write names in same line, same page.

Yes and can we please kindly also live in a cave, ideally fro some 1400 years ago.. Thanks that would be great.