Hassan Nisar Ka "Dunya TV" Per Hijaab Aur Islam Ka Mazaaq Aur Tauheen Amaiz Guftago,

Aamir Malik

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Hassan Nisar Real Face


پہلے کہا گیا عرضِ مکرر ہے کہ حسن نِثار کی حضرت علامہ کے بارے رائے سے بندہ نہ صِرف کبھی مُتفق نہیں رہا بلکہ اِس کشمکش کا بھی شِکار ہے کہ آج جو باتیں حسن نثار کرتا ہے حضرتِ علامہ ایسے قلندر نے اکثر ایک صدی پہلے اپنے طریقے سے کہیں۔ مُلائیت، خانقاہیِ نطام، شہنشاہیت، اور جہالت کے جمود میں ٹھٹھرتی مِلت کو اور اُسکے کرتاؤں دھرتاؤں کو حسن نِثار سے کہیں زیادہ رگیدا۔ یہ ہمارا سماجی نقص ہے یا پرستش کی پُرانی خُو کہ ہم اپنے محبوب اِنسانوں کو فرشتہ دیکھنا چاہتے ہیں اور مخالفین کو شیطان جبکہ اِنسان اِن دونوں کے درمیان بھی ہو سکتا ہے۔

حسن نِثار کا قاری ہونے کے بِناء پر میں اُسکے کُچھ خیالات کی تائید نہیں کر سکتا لیکن خیالات کی اکثریت سے متفق ہوں جِس کی وجہ مدینۃ العلم کی حصولِ علم کیلئے چین تک چلے جانے اور باب العلم کی کہی اِس بات کو سینے کا تعویز سمجھتا ہوں کہ عِلم مومن کی میراث ہے جِس سے مِلے لے لو۔

جہاں تک عورت کے پردے کا تعلق ہے، میں اِس بارے میں اپنے ہاں مشرقی لباس کو جس میں عورت نے خود کو کافی حد تک ڈھانپا اوڑھا ہوتا ہے کافی سمجھتا ہوں۔ یہ بھی اُن خواتین کیلئے جن کا مُجھ سے کوئی رشتہ واسطہ ہے اور اگر وہ میری رائے کو مقدم سمجھیں تب نہ کہ دوسروں کی عورتوں پر اپنا ڈریس کوڈ مسلط کرتا پھروں۔ میں یہ حق عورت کو تفویض کرنے کا حامی بھی ہوں کہ وہ بھی میری طرح اپنے لِباس کا تعین خود کرے کیونکہ نہ میں اپنی بہنوں بیٹیوں کو کافر سمجھتا ہوں، بے دین اور نہ بے حیا کہ وہ ہمارے سامنے نامُناسب لباس میں گھومتی پھِریں گی۔

کِسی خاص تنبو نُما بُرقعے اور گھُٹن زدہ لباس کو اِسلامی لباس قرار دینے کو نہ صرف نامناسب سمجتا ہوں بلکہ ظُلم بھی۔ وہ تمام مرد جو اِس لباس کو عین اسلامی اور فطری سمجھتے ہیں اُنہیں جون کی اِس گرمی میں پہن کر ایک دِن پاکستان کی گلیوں میں گُزارنے کا مشورہ بھی دونگا تاکہ اُنکا دماغ پگھل کر ذرا دِل کے قریب آئے
اور وہ اُس سزائے عُمر قید کا ایک دِن گُزاریں جو وہ اپنی رعیت (عورت) کو سُنا چُکے ہیں۔ اگر ایک اور زاویے سے دیکھا جائے تو پردے اور بُرقعے کا یہ نِظام نفس کُشی اور قربتِ اِلہی کا ایک ذریعہ ضرور ہو سکتا ہے لیکن وہ بھی صوفیوں میں تو جائز ہے مُلائیت میں ہر گِز نہیں۔

بد قسمتی سے جیسے ہماری نماز میں بھی خود سپردگی سے زیادہ ہاتھ کھولنے باندھنے کے مقامات اور دھوتی شلوار کے ٹخنوں کے فاصلے تک محدود ہو چُکی ہے زندگی کے بقیہ معاملات بھی اِسی بے درد چکی میں پِس رہے ہیں۔ میں چونکہ نماز پڑھنے کیلئے کِسی شیعہ سُنی مسجد کی تخصیص کا قائل نہیں اور دھڑلے سے کِسی بھی فِرقے کی مسجد میں اپنے پسندیدہ طریقے سے جماعت میں شامل ہو جاتا ہوں لِہٰذا شلوار اور ٹخنوں کا فاصلہ ناپنا بھوُل جاتا ہوں تو سلام پھیرتے ہی کِسی پڑوسی نمازی کی مُبلغانہ تقریر بھی سُنتا ہوُں جِس میں اِن فاصلوں کو سُنت سے مناسب کیا جاتا ہے جبکہ میں سوچ رہا ہوتا ہوں آپ تسبیح و تعظیم میں مشغول تھے یا دِل و دماغ میرے گُل رنگ ٹخنوں میں اُلجھا تھا؟


جب تک ہم ڈیڑھ ہزار سال سے حِلت و حُرمت، کراحت و قباحت کی آئے روز بدلتی حدوں میں اُلجھے رہیں گےاور فروعی فضولیات پر فتویٰ بازی پر دھیان رکھیں گے نہ ہماری شلوار کا سائز طے ہوگا نہ ستر کی حدود کا۔

لوگ چاند پر گئے
اور اب مریخ کے
وہ ڈھونڈتے ہیں راستے
ہم ہیں جو نفاذ کا نظام ڈھونڈتے رہے
ہاتھ باندھنے کے مقام ڈھونڈتے رہے
اگر آپ مسلمان ہوتو ہرحال ميں آپکو اللہ اور اسکےرسول کے احکامات ماننے ہيں- اپنی توجيح نہيں دينی چاہيے-اور شاعروں کے بارے ميں قرآن کيا کہتا ہےذرا پڑھ ليں -
 

Aamir Malik

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Hassan Nisar Real Face

افسوس کا مقام ہے کہ "حسن نثار" جو کہ "مغلظات" میں "تھڑا" یونیورسٹی سے پی -اچ -ڈی- ہے اور جس کو شراب کی حرمت کا خیال کبھی چھو کر بھی نہ گزرا ھو گا-
وہ اس "قوم" کا دانش ور بننا ہوا ہے -
اور اب خیر سے "دینیات" میں بھی "بھاشن" دینے چلا ہے -
حسن نثار کی بات پر دھيان ديں اب کوئی نبی نہيں آئےگااسليئےکردار کے غازی ملنامحال ہيں
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I hate Hasan Nisar, he opposes the great Philosopher poet Allama Iqbal. He opposes Pakistan's creation and he backs MQM which is mafia that is responsible for killings thousands of innocent people and is out to break Pakistan. He is a pure opportunist who is using PTI merely as a platform to further his own agenda.
 

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Islam ke Naame pe logo ko exploit krnae ka bohat lutf aata hai kuch logo ko

Same goes for Hijab

By Khurshid Imam

A. Introduction

............. This is haraam in islam.
.................... That is not permissible in islam.
.................................... This is not allowed in islam.
................................................................ That is against Quran and sunnah.
We hear these statements umpteen number of times. Muslims Scholars come up with frequent fatwas on a number of issues. Just have a glimpse on some of issues and the ruling of majority of muslim scholars on these issues AND the CHANGING trend:

B. Wearing collar Shirts, using english etc was deemed Haraam, Now....? - It was during British era that WE had declared that using things that looks like imitating Britishers - was haraam or prohibited. So wearing Shirt, using english etc was declared haraam. Ask your elders about it.

C. Drinking coffee was Haraam, Now...? During the early days of coffee some of US have declared that drinking coffee was haraam.

D. Using mike for adhan was Haraam. Now...? It was till recently that WE deemed mike for adhaan etc to be haraam.

E. Wearing Tie was Haraam earlier. Now...? Till recently wearing tie was considered taboo by US. WE considered wearing tie as imitating kuffaar.Even today some of US equate wearing tie equal to imitating kuffar and hence a forbidden act.

F. Photography / making photos was Haraam. Now...? If u would have asked till 1990s to a muslim scholar about the ruling on photography - most probably you would have got the answer that it is haraam. Muslim world had an unanimous understanding that photography is not allowed at all. Its absolutely haraam. Even today some of them SAY its haraam.

G. TV / Videography was Haraam, Now...? Similar to the case of photography even videography was deemed prohibited or haraam by ulema till very recently. Islamic Scholars - probably from all school of thoughts - deemed it absolutely prohibited. Making video of human being was considered unislamic. A very generic understanding was in the air there that having TV at home is haraam.

Note: When i mention that we/some of us/muslims scholars have declared haraam then of course that does not means all muslim scholars.


H. Did islam change? New revelation came? Or understanding of muslims was wrong?

If you prevent a muslim from drinking coffee because u think it is haraam then you will be declared lunatic.
If you say wearing shirt, using english is prohibited in islam then you will be mocked.
Similarly if u start propagating that tie is haraam then most probably people will say that this fellow does not know about islam.

Photography and videography is very interesting. Some of the opinions of Scholars are:
. Some say photography or videography for non living things is allowed and for others haraam.One can find plant photography / videography being allowed. ( I say: are plants living things or Non living things?)
. Some say photography or videography for human beings is haraam, for others it is allowed.
. Many of scholars are now saying (at least practically) that photography / videography for good purpose is allowed - whether of human beings or non living things.

Just ponder over the fact that:
1. Our tableeghi jamaat brothers and other "pious" muslims were strictly against photography / videography EARLIER. They would not hesitate in burning old photos at home (assuming it was HARAAM to have photographs at home). Now?
Now they are not that much vocal against photography and videography. A large number of bayaan (talks) of Maulana Tariq jameel sahab (A prominent tableeghi jamaat member) and others is available on Internet in videos. Lot of photos of tableeghi brother is available on net. Many members have their profile picture in facebook as their picture. The voice that photography/videography is haraam has diminished.

2. Old journals of jamat-e-islami never had photographs of human beings. Why? They thought its HARAAM to have it. Now? No seminar/ program / meeting / gathering of jamat-e-islami is complete without more-than-sufficient photographs flashing around newspaper, journals and magazines, TV etc.

3. Our salafi brothers too had been very very vocal on this topic. For them - since things fall only under allowed or HARAAM - so it was not surprise that their scholars too considered it absolutely HARAAM. The impression given was that a person indulging in photography / videography will have to enter hell fire.
Now? Of all the available islamic websites on the Internet; islamic videos / lectures - that contains large amount of photos and videos of human beings - probably more than 50% belongs to salafis (My observation). Tons of videos of salafi scholars are available on youtube.

4. Similarly a unanimous voice from deoband was that photography/videography was haraam but now that voice seems to have disappeared or least not much discussed now.

5. We hear that so many people are coming to islam because of widespread use of islamic lectures / documentaries in the form of audio, video and print media. Muslims and Non muslims are understanding islam very easily through tonns of videos available on internet. If videography was haraam then muslims scholars - today - must make it absolutely haraam to propagate islam though videos. In fact - all "students of islam and comparative religion" type "orators" make sure that their no programs go unrecorded and then distributed among masses in all good ways.

Several things that were deemed haraam or prohibited by ulemas some years back are considered permitted or encouraged today. Is it logical and valid? Somewhere something is wrong. If something was absolutely forbidden 20 years back then it should be wrong even today and even after 20 years.
This is the characteristics of unislamic society that they declare something as permissible though it was considered wrong earlier. For example: Drinking alcohol was considered bad thing decades back in medium family in india. Today its considered a norm. Similarly premarital affair was paap i.e. great sin in indian society sometimes back, today its encouraged. Unislamic society change their values and rulings because they are not bound by any laws viz: Quran or Prophet.

But how come muslims too made similar mistakes. My analysis is as follows:
1. Intention of ulemas had been noble and good - by and large.
2. Due to abandoning Quran as a whole - we failed to grasp the faham of Quran. Things that are haraam and prohibited are mentioned clearly by Allah. Now what about new inventions like TV, photography, videography etc? For these intellectual brainstorming is required in the light of Quran.
3. Unfortunately muslim world took any new invention from non-believers as unislamic. Advancement in science and technology was directly or indirectly discouraged giving the impression that islam is against exploring science.
4. Had we used our intellectual capacity to its best we would not have ended up in this situation.
5. The ONLY solution for above all problems is that people hold Quran very very strongly and understand that islam is deen-e-fitrat i.e. religion of nature. Understanding faham of deen-islam is an important aspect that is ignored by masses.
6. Quranic principles are forver and do not changes with time. Implementation of these principle may change with time.
In the language of software (java): Quranic principles are abstract class while its rulings/implementations are concrete class.

Note: Intentionally skipping the details of islamic rulings on photography / videography / TV.

I. Conclusion

1. Islam is religion of nature. It is as simple and as natural as 2+2=4.
2. Principles of islam are eternal and never changes with time. Implementation of an islamic principle may change from time to time.
3. Its ONLY Allah or Almighty GOD who can make a thing Haraam. One need to be extremely careful while declaring anything as haraam. Declaring something today as haraam and tomorrow halal makes us laughing stock.
4. Haraam always remain Haraam - never a Haraam can become Halaal. People have misconception that haraam can become halal in necessity. The ayah 5:3 does NOT say that haraam will become Halaal in necessity, rather it says that if you are forced in unbearable situation then for haraam thing you will not get gunah or sin. Please note this important difference. In unbearable situation when you can not refrain from haraam then if u do that; then you will not be sinned - it does NOT mean that haraam will become halal in unbearable situation. Due to not understanding this delicate and basic difference many wrong rulings have been deduced in fiqh.
5. For future generations it will be hard to believe that WE had declared photography and videography HARAAM. Just like its hard for present generation to believe that once upon a time coffee, english, shirt, tie was declared haraam


Note: * If you don't agree with the mail then instead of giving fatwa of deviation / kufr / shirk / biddat - have faith in Allah and leave it to him to judge.

* Author – [email protected]


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aq.inqalabi

Senator (1k+ posts)
@admin ............ i remeber this thing has already been posted on siasat.pk n discussed thoroughly .......... may i know wats the purpose of posting same thing again n again ?????
n frankly the munafiq can only curse hassan nisar becuase they hv no concrete points to counter his talks ...................... its every one right to disagree , even i disagree with the concept of hijab by hassan nisar but it doesnt means he is !##%$#%$^ like all the munafeqeens .......... peace!
 

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
In a meeting of PTI Members with Hassan Nisar, he shared his advice to put in all efforts in coming elections to change the Leadership of the country. Apr 19, 2012




In a private meeting with Hassan Nisar at this home, he shared his advice to put in all efforts in coming elections to change the Leadership of the country. This is the only way to save Pakistan.
 

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
NoJawnon ki Talwar -- Hassan Nisar. Jazba Barhaoo, Member Banaoo, Mulk Bachaoo. ISF Lahore PTI Member Drive Hassan Nisar Event ka time hai 3.30pm to 6pm Event hai woh lokon kay liya jo ISF Lahore PTI Member Drive kay liya Volunteer karna chathain hain Volunteer please SMS ISFLV to 9900
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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One more thing which comes to my mind

He was with Sarfraz Nawaz in this picture who to this very day speaks rubbish against Imran, yet I still have not been able to figure out why Sarfraz Nawaz is in MQM??????????? He went into MQM because of his hatred towards Imran, nothing else!
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
میں نے تبھی الحمدللہ آج تک کسی پارٹی کو ووٹ نہیں دیا

سیاسی پارٹیوں کا کوئی دین ایمان نہیں
جو اس شخص جیسی خبیث سوچ رکھنے والوں کو اتنی عزت دیتے ہیں

ان سیاسی پارٹیوں کی حمایت اللہ سے دشمنی مول لینے کے مترادف ہے
 
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indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
To bhai Apni Siasi party bana lo tumhae kisi ne nahi roka... Phir tumhae loog vote dalangae or phir jamhooriyat ka nizam chalae ga....

40% k vote dalnae se jamhooriyat nai chalti
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
میں نے تبھی الحمدللہ آج تک کسی پارٹی کو ووٹ نہیں دیا

سیاسی پارٹیوں کا کوئی دین ایمان نہیں
جو اس شخص جیسی خبیث سوچ رکھنے والوں کو اتنی عزت دیتے ہیں

ان سیاسی پارٹیوں کی حمایت اللہ سے دشمنی مول لینے کے مترادف ہے


If you have never ever voted for any party then why complain about anyone? We must vote in order to bring change!
 

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