Haroon Rasheed is on payroll of Pak Army

k.a.kiani

Minister (2k+ posts)
I just want army should do its job to secure the country
I also want that army should also be accountable and answerable in front of nation for the carelessness or illegal act according to the constitution of pakistan and should also be punished if something is proven against them
I want army should never ever try to take over the government and should never be part of politics
I want army's budget and ISI's budget should be known to all nation
I want Army should not be doing any business like property (DHA's etc)


tell me one program in which Haroon Rashid said that Army should not comply any of the above. you have wrote Kalma in ur title photo and you don't know that 'bohtan' is great sin.

But I also want that if somebody try to defame the army without any solid proof then I will condemn such people. We should also not forget that this is the army who fights for us, secure us on the borders,one of the strongest army in the world and do lot of help when there is situation of flood or earth quack then we should not listen. our soldiers are still getting killed in fighting with enemies that is not a joke but a serious fact.
 

crowbar

Senator (1k+ posts)
Hello hot head brother! Joining a political party as a member is open for any one,The real issue is if he gets a ticket for election as a representative, that is when we start to question!
Hi frozen head brother! thanks for giving me the very first hand informations about the PTI policy for chor ,dako ,smugglers etc who can join the party without being questioned.This way you might be able increasing your vote bank by bringing under world dons.The general i mentioned about earlier was facing serious problems.He was questioned by americans for having close links with HAQANI group of afghan taliban. He wanted join another party but there were people in that party whom had all kind of know how about this guy thats why he was flately refused even basic membership of that party.He found the right place with right people ,probably.
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Hi frozen head brother!


I always like a good witty remark! I enjoyed it! You have the brains and the wit in my book.
Just a very friendly suggestion, read a lot of Iqbal and history of Islam, you will be surprised all those people who were allowed to be a part of the system.
 

Bilal_Mushi

Minister (2k+ posts)

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
we should love our army, I know I do


We need you forces, at the time of desperation, at the time of flood, famine, PPP was no where to be found but YOU were there.


Thank you general Kyani, pasha, Gul, and all others right down to the soldiers


Good job, lets do even more

takbeer, Allah o Akbar

May Allah give you more more courage and bravery. WE LOVE YOU. See you in New Delhi with subz hilali on the Indian parliament


Army Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad
 

Khanji1

Councller (250+ posts)
I did not say anything against army as an institution but the elite of Generals. Why you guys are misunderstanding. I said I love my army but our most generals are corrupt. Corp (Crore) Commanders are corrupt and busy in making money. They are the ones who are not sincere with the country. Why they don't shot the drones? What will happen? America will eat them up? I don't understand what the army is doing and they have failures one after another. They should fear Allah not America. Haroon is the person who mostly speaks truth but when it comes to criticize Generals then he keeps his moth shut. Army being so powerful why they don't ask Zardari to replace Rehman Malik and Hussain Haqqani who have proved themselves as American agents.
 
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usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
Let me know which politician sold pakistan like musharaf did in 9/11. Yahya did in 71 .. and great generals did in 65 when they stopped the fight along kashmir border???
Or who created this mess of terrorism in pakistan. The only army in the world whose hands are red with the blood of its own citizens? Its pakistan beta.. open your eyes and stop praying the buthcers. Politicians are corrupt , they eat the money they do what ever it takes to get into power . All is true but they dont sell pakistan. It was politicians who brought back 90000 army from india with out a fight. It was politicians who let the atomic blast happen. It was politicians who rescued army in kargil. DOnt be naive.

Its better to support Army than the corrupt politicians ,all politicians are on American payroll (as mentioned in wikileaks) , difference is that if kiyani is on US payroll then he'll be changed after a year or two so we have a hope there, but in political parties same old families are ruling for ages ,so i support my army beside the fact that there are culprits in it's leadership but they'll not remain in our army forever,our Army is necessary for our country without Army our country 'll be like a wall of sand
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)

Bombaybuz

Minister (2k+ posts)
Then he must be on IK's payroll also .... kya hogaya hai aaj in nazuk moor pay apni fouj ki himayaat karna bhe gunnah hoo gaya hai... chahey jo bhe hoo mujha ganjey and mr 10% sai aik baar phir dhoka khaney sai army ki support kartey mar jana kabool hai....
 

change

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
It is no more OUR ARMY; Mushi rented this Army to America for billions of dollars. In fact it is no more Pak Army but a bunch of 'Contract Killers' who are killing innocent people in FATA. Every person living in fata is not terrorist but army is not making any distinction between terrorists and civilians and killing them for no reason.
Dont forget Kiyani is successor of Mushi and Pasha is successor of Kiyani; Kiyani was put in place of Mushi to complete the task given to Mushi by America. When Mushi appointed Kiyani as Army Chief, in an interview Mushi was asked 'Do u think Kiyani would be loyal to you? Mushi replied 'i belive Gen Kiyani is loyal to my cause and therefore he is loyal to me'; we all know what was Mushi's cause, dont we? Mushi was loyal to Bush n Kiyani was loyal to Mushi, so both were n are loyal to their Godfather America. America played crucial role to strengthen Mushi's rule in Pakistan and Mushi & co (including kiyani) played vital role in fulfilment of Zionist Agenda of America/Isreal in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Remember what mushi did to Dr. A.Q Khan and how many innocent pakistanis including Dr. Afia Siddique were captured n sold to America, was mushi doing all this at his own? not at all, in fact he had support of other 'core commanders' including Kiyani, whom he(mushi) appointed Commander 10 core and afterwards DG ISI, Kiyani was also DG Millitary Operations (MO), being DG ISI and DG MO, he did great services for Mushi. It was kiyani who investigated about both attacks on mushi and caught the culprits. In reward to Kiyani's so called great services and servicemanship Mushi appointed him as Army Chief. Here is a list of few national Crimes committed by Kiyani as DG ISI and Army Chief:
I) Capturing and handing over Dr. Afia to America; it was done thorugh ISI and Kiyani was DG ISI at that time;
II) Humiliation of Dr. A.Q Khan; it was done through ISI and again Kiyani was DG ISI at that time;
III) Humiliation of Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhary in GHQ; Kiyani was DG ISI and was present in GHQ when CJ was illegally restrained in GHQ by mushi and kiyani was present at the time when mushi told CJ that he(CJ) was suspended;
IV) Kiyani being DG ISI and as partner of mushi led talks with late Benazir Bhuto for power sharing; mushi and Kiyani are equaly responsible to broker NRO n bringing
present corrupt PPP rulers into power; [both mushi and kiyani got rewards; mushi got safe and respectful exist from Pakistan with a Guard of Honour from Kiyani
and Kiyani got Three Years extension from government he(kiyani) played a role to bring into power; [all in the family]
V) Release of Raymond Davis agaisnt the wishes of Pakistani nation by serect hands [is there need to explain those secret hands? ok i do; secret hands = ISI = Army = Kiyani (ISI is an agency of Army, headed by a DG, controlled by Army Chief, so Army chief is directly responsible for its actions; this is why i mentioned Kiyani not Pasha, Pasha's thread is in hands of Kiyani because Army chief appoints DG ISI and DG ISI is direct subordinate to Army Chief]
VI) No action on 2nd May incident by Kiyani so far; whole nation is heart broken but not kiyani; why? because this action was done by his Godfather America; so why he should be worry when America has assured and guaranteed him a safe and respectful exist and Guard of Honour like mushi;
WELL DONE KIYANI; America is happy with you; this is why Admiral Mullan said 'we(america) should give more time to kiyani'

There are other crimes done by kiyani & co as well but the above are henious. I am hopeful when there will be rule of law in Pakistan, definitly people like mushi and kiyani will be brought to justice. Mushi & co and now Kiyani & co are Qoumi Mujrim;


[Before you guys label me as CIA/RAW's agent, read the crime list above, go through the facts and proofs alread in public knowledge and then make a decision; Gud luck]
 

atifsharif

MPA (400+ posts)
and what about ARMY ........ looting pakistan from 1947 ... koi aisa waqt bata dain jab aap ki army establishment hakoomat na chala rahi ho ...

LEKIN AAJ BHI INHE AUR IN KE HAWARIYOON KO SHARAM NAHI ATI ------- MAIN TO HERAN HOTA HOON APNE PAKISTANIYOON KI ZAEHNIAT PE JO YEH KEHTE HAIN KE ARMY IS BETTER THAN POLITICIANS HALANKE SAB JANTE HAIN KE ARMY ALWAYS BEHIND THE GOVERNMENT DIRECT OR INDIRECT .... THEY ARE REALLY ON AMERICAN PAYROLL ...



Its better to support Army than the corrupt politicians ,all politicians are on American payroll (as mentioned in wikileaks) , difference is that if kiyani is on US payroll then he'll be changed after a year or two so we have a hope there, but in political parties same old families are ruling for ages ,so i support my army beside the fact that there are culprits in it's leadership but they'll not remain in our army forever,our Army is necessary for our country without Army our country 'll be like a wall of sand
 

forum4email

Councller (250+ posts)
ہمارے ملک میں مغربی میڈیا اورپاکستانی میڈیا نے عجیب سی ہوا کھڑی کردی ہے کہ جو پاکستان اپنے اداروں کو سپورٹ کریں اس کو اس طرح پیش کیاجاتا ہے کہ جیسے یہ دشمن ہیں۔
سوال یہ ہے کہ پاک فوج یا آئی ایس آئی پاکستان ادارے ہیں اگرہیں تو ہرپاکستانی پاک فوج اورآئی ایس آئی کا ایجنٹ ہے۔ اس وقت پاکستان حالت جنگ میں ہیں اور ان اداروں کو ہماری سپورٹ کی ضرورت ہے۔ آپ ان پرتنقیدضرور کریں مگرمثبت انداز میں۔
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sure he is. He will never say a word against Kiani or Pasha or any General. Kiani is an american agent like Mush, that was the reason he got extension.:angry_smile:http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...h-2011-Haroon-Rasheed-Haroon-Akhtar-amp-Other

yes haroon rasheed is a sick guy.he actually worships the generals....i read his columns once and his flattery for generals is mind blowing...it seems he is getting some sort of money or something from army like zaid hamid and ahmed qureshi like people also probably get benefits from army etc..

and in fall of imran khan too haroon rtasheed has played his part...imran listened to haroon rasheed a lot once.i am not sure about present situation but once imran was sort of in hroon rasheeds hands for "intellectual" and other matters.

those people who say that criticising army generals is like criticisning pakistan are mostly those people who are getting some financial benefits from army institutes etc.financial or otherwise ,this i have observed, they are so emotional in armys love which is more than gods love for them.

if such hypocrite persons kids were also killed mercilessly by these generals than may be they had thought different. ...but as long as "other peoples kids" die its very ok with such shallow people.

actually such zaalim and puppet american generals will harm pakistan,not protect it.,you sheeple will soon see this with own eyes if alive till than
 
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