M Ali Khan
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Pathological Liar, Orya Maqbool Jan & Jinnah
To repeat (and it bears repetition ad nauseam), when Jinnah addressed the first constituent assembly of the country on August 11 1947 he embodied in his speech the core of his philosophy, his ideas, and his vision for the state he had founded. It was a fine piece of rhetoric; too fine, too moral, too democratic, too liberal, too full of justice, too idealistic for the Philistines. This speech has been interpreted in many different ways, it has been subject to distortion, it has inspired fear in successive governments, which would have been far happier had it never been delivered. It is to the misfortune of the people of this country that their so-called leaders have refused to live with, or up to, the principles by which Jinnah wished them to be guided. It is a matter of national shame that, from top to bottom, the citizens of this country live in dread of contamination by the truth - such is the measure of self-deception, insecurity, disunity, indiscipline, and faithlessness.
On August 11, 1947, before the flag of Pakistan had even been unfurled, Jinnah told his people and their future legislators:
"You are free, free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other places of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed - that has nothing to do with the business of the State. As you know, history shows that in England conditions some time ago were much worse than those prevailing in India today. The Roman Catholics and the Protestants persecuted each other. Even now there are some states in existence where there are discriminations made and bars imposed against a particular class. Thank God, we are not starting in those days. We are starting in the days when there is no discrimination, no distinction between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and equal citizens of one state. The people of England in course of time had to face the realities of the situation and had to discharge the responsibilities and burdens placed upon them by the government of their country and they went through that fire step by step. Today, you might say with justice that Roman Catholics and Protestants do not exist; what exists now is that every man is a citizen, an equal citizen of Great Britain and they are all members of the nation. Now I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal.....".
[This particular passage has been subject to deliberate distortion and misinterpretation, inspiring the dishonest dogmatists who misappropriated the country after his death with such fear and unease that in the official biography of Jinnah commissioned by the Government of Pakistan, written by Hector Bolitho, published in 1954, it was censored to falsely read: ".....You may belong to any religion or caste or creed - that has nothing to do with the fundamental principle that we are all citizens and equal citizens of one State..... Now, I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal....". (Most of the above passages were ommitted).]
REFERENCE: The sole statesman BY ARDESHIR COWASJEE (18-06-2000) http://www.dawn.com/news/1072301/the-sole-statesman
JINNAH - Creator of Pakistan by Hector Bolitho http://www.scribd.com/doc/195835640/JINNAH-Creator-of-Pakistan-by-Hector-Bolitho
JINNAH - Creator of Pakistan by Hector Bolitho by Aamir Mughal
Pathological lying (PL) is a controversial topic. There is, as yet, no consensus in the psychiatric community on its definition, although there is general agreement on its core elements. PL is characterized by a long history (maybe lifelong) of frequent and repeated lying for which no apparent psychological motive or external benefit can be discerned. While ordinary lies are goal-directed and are told to obtain external benefit or to avoid punishment, pathological lies often appear purposeless. In some cases, they might be self-incriminating or damaging, which makes the behavior even more incomprehensible. Despite its relative obscurity, PL has been recognized and written about in the psychiatric literature for more than a century. The German physician, Anton Delbruck,1 is credited with being the first to describe the concept of PL. He observed that some of his patients told lies that were so abnormal and out of proportion that they deserved a special category. He sub-sequently described the lies as "pseu- dologia phantastica." Reference: Pathological Lying: Symptom or Disease? By Charles C Dike, MD, MPH, MRCPsych June 01, 2008 http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/pathological-lying-symptom-or-disease
For sake of clarity a full paragraph from Will Durant's voluminous Story of Civilization is reproduced here from which OMJ picked up a quotation: "Writing continued, even to the nineteenth century, to play a very small part in Indian education. Perhaps it was not to the interest of the priests that the sacred or scholastic texts should become an open secret to all. As far as we can trace Indian history, we find a system of education, always in the hands of the clergy, open at first only to the sons of Brahmans, then spreading its privileges from caste to caste until in our time it excludes only the Untouchables. Every Hindu village had its schoolmaster, supported out of the public funds; in Bengal alone, before the coming of the British, there were some 80,000 native schools one to every four hundred population.
The percentage of literacy under Ashoka was apparently higher than in India today." Will Durant in this section was discussing the education system in ancient India but OMJ picked up a Bengal-related sentence and forcibly linked it with the Mughal period to create a misleading impression. Intellectual honesty demanded that OMJ should have also told his readers what Will Durant wrote in the same book about the Muslim rulers in India. For instance, Durant writes about our hero idol-smasher: "Each winter Mahmud descended into India, filled his treasure chest with spoils, and amused his men with full freedom to pillage and kill; each spring he returned to his capital richer than before." We are told that the idol breaker would sometimes spare the population of the ravaged cities and "took them home to be sold as slaves; but so great was the number of such captives that after some years no one could be found to offer more than a few shillings for a slave." Similarly referring to other rulers of the pre-Mughal era, Durant writes, "There was constantly in front of his royal pavilion and his Civil Court a mound of dead bodies and a heap of corpses, while the sweepers and executioners were wearied out by their work of dragging the victims and putting them to death in crowds."
OMJ fondly mentions Firoz Shah about whom Durant writes, "Firoz Shah invaded Bengal, offered a reward for every Hindu head, paid for 180,000 of them, raided Hindu villages for slaves." Similarly, Sultan Ahmad Shah is said to have feasted for three days whenever the number of defenceless Hindus slain in his territories in one day reached 20,000. Based on such numerous examples, Durant says, "The Mohammedan Conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilisation is a precarious thing, whose delicate complex of order and liberty, culture and peace may at any time be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within." Durant in his work appreciates the art and sculpture of India. However, he laments, "We shall never be able to do justice to Indian art, for ignorance and fanaticism have destroyed its greatest achievements, and have half ruined the rest." OMJ in his concluding lines makes a passing reference to Lord Cornwallis, accusing him of establishing a religious seminary in 1781 to destroy educational system of Muslim rulers.
Interestingly, in 1781, Major General Cornwallis was in America with a mixed record against rebel colonists culminating in the capitulation of his force at Yorktown and came to India in 1786. Cornwallis, however, is credited with establishing an institution that OMJ never found detestable: the Indian Civil Service. Hope our former deputy commissioner would be more careful with both dates and facts of history. The writer teaches public policy in the UK and is the founding member of the Rationalist Society of Pakistan.
REFERENCES: OVER A COFFEE : Postcard for Orya Maqbool Jan Dr Haider Shah October 27, 2012 http://archives.dailytimes.com.pk/e...-postcard-for-orya-maqbool-jan-dr-haider-shah
OVER A COFFEE : History telling the Nasim Hijazi way Dr Haider Shah December 01, 2012 http://archives.dailytimes.com.pk/e...y-telling-the-nasim-hijazi-way-dr-haider-shah
Orya Maqbool Jan on Jinnah's 11 th August 1947 Speech (Daily Dunya) http://dunya.com.pk/news/authors/detail_image/x5529_16461313.jpg.pagespeed.ic.pvzOK79idJ.jpg
Mr. Jinnah has been the subject of onslaught by both the right and the left- both want to paint a beard on Jinnah. Both have repeatedly failed. But the difference between the left and the right is that the left at least does not deny facts. For example a leftist will not claim that Jinnahs 11 August speech never existed or that it did not speak of a secular state. Not true of Orya Maqbool Jan, a right wing crook and liar who is also in the civil service. In his most recent column, the Orya claims that Jinnah in fact never made the 11 August Speech because he could not find any reference in the newspapers. Typical. First a civil servant Ch. Muhammad Ali stopped it from being released and now a civil servant claims see it never existed. Well here is the problem for crooks and liars like Orya Maqbool Jan the Pakistan Constituent Assembly record DOES exist. I refer to Jinnah Papers Volume IV Appendix IX, Item 4: Presidents address.
Reference: Lying Orya Maqbool Jan caught with his pants down
December 30th, 2013 By Yasser Latif Hamdani
The 11 August speech is there in full as is precisely how it is quoted. And since Mr. Jan goes by media coverage here is http://pakteahouse.net/2013/12/30/lying-orya-maqbool-jan-caught-with-his-pants-down/
THE HINDU from 12 August 1947: Jinnah's 11 August, 1947 Speech: Assurance to Minority Communities (Editorial from The Hindu) http://www.scribd.com/doc/110861031...Minority-Communities-Editorial-from-The-Hindu
