Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Of course I am, because you have no logical refutations.
"The ignorant man is a child even though he may be old, while the knowledgeable man is an adult even though he be young."
Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza on Why LHC Quashed FIR against him?
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"The ignorant man is a child even though he may be old, while the knowledgeable man is an adult even though he be young."
AxxN.RR
Councller (250+ posts)
May Allah open our eyes, brains and hearts.. to see, understand and follow the truth. AMEEN.
First: Prove him wrong using Quran and Hadiths... Not from what books are associated with Aulias and Buzurgs..
Second: Say clearly whether or not, you believe and support what is written in the books of Aulias and Buzurgs.. which Muhammad Ali Mirza showed to all.. What stuff is written in those books, Do you support it and believe its correct or no?
Just do these two tiny things.. we can conclude who is having a locked heart.. If i have, i will repent and spend more time learning Islam, rather then sit here and accuse others. If by God, you couldnt prove it.. Please take some time to go the bottom of things and rectify yourself.. My prayer in the start of comment is for all of us.
AxxN.RR
Councller (250+ posts)
Agreed but we shouldnt declare who is who's side picture.. I myself, listen to all renowned ones.. But first point is to read Quran, Understand it with Tafseer from different poeple, spend some time in confirming the knowledge from authentic Hadiths.. And after that listen to whoever is there.. Just take what you find correct, and leave what you find not correct .. Our own research and knowledge is the key.. We have learnt every other thing in life that benefits our lives.. but ISLAM.. that we just took lightly and thought we read it in Arabic once or few times so job done.. now just follow whoever is our spiritual leader and whatever they say, must be right..
With what words will we answer Allah on day of judgement? that we didnt had time in our whole life to even go through the basics by ourselves? Left our basics of beliefs to some Mullahs or teachers only, so whatever they told, we believed.. ?? May Allah be merciful on all of us.. Ameen.
AxxN.RR
Councller (250+ posts)
Corretimango... !!!
AxxN.RR
Councller (250+ posts)
Bhai.. When you pass your judgement.. it shouldnt be words only.. Prove your points with evidence.. When you say he selects particular hadiths and he is Rafzi.. You should bring Hadiths to support your claim..
As much i have seen in his videos and lectures.. he tries to stay as just as he can between all sides.. teaches what is correctly found in books and discard what is word of mouth or stuff that is not authentic.. Its same what Quran tells us.. Dont follow anything unless you have absolute knowledge of it..
AxxN.RR
Councller (250+ posts)
Gurmaah log ye harkatain karte hain bhai mere... out of context clips bana ke apna matlab nikalnay ki...
Ye sari batain, poory context kay saath share karo.. full video.. daikhte hain kaisay sabit karo gaye jo aap nay is video say accuse karnay ki koshsih ki hai?? Khuda se daro bhai..
Doosron ki Islaah karna bohat afzal kaam hai.. Laiken apni Islaah pehlay, phir doosroon ki.. Warna her cheez ka wabaal apnay sar pe.. Kya faida?
ammadk
Minister (2k+ posts)
Mai ne Ayat e Quran ka mafhum quote kia tha... Tmhari bat ki ayat ki samny koi hesiat nai
Pakistani1947
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The Untouchable
MPA (400+ posts)
The Untouchable
MPA (400+ posts)
You are right and i don't care also.
I have given them the massage now its up to them if they want to research from heart and mind or they just want to follow him blindly.
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Phele shaq tha aab yaqeen hogaya hai ke tum bhi brelvi, deobandi etc etc type firqay mein se ho is liye Mirza is itni taqleef hai. Yeh chotay chotay clip bana ke tum logon ne is per jhooti FIR bhi katwa dhi, lekin akhir kaar khud hi zaleel ho gaye.
Maar jana lekin apnay babaon ko nahi chordna. Jao poojte raho apnay babon ko, jao qabron per aur apnay babaon se dua kerte raho, pardte raho chisti rasool allah pardte raho thanvi rasool allah, lagay raho apnay shirk aur bidat mein aur janati ho jao
The Untouchable
MPA (400+ posts)
جو صحابہ پر بہتان باندھے اس پر ان گنت لعنت
صحابہ کرام کے مرتبے کے آگے تمہارے مردود لعنتی انجینئر کی کوئی حثیت نہیں
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Message, you call those out of context edited clips message, oh please, like that I can give you edited text from the Quran also which goes 180 degrees from what it means.
The only blind people here are you firqa parasts who cannot counter any of his arguments against your babas so you go for character assassination instead.
Apnay Babaon ko bachane ke liye pura deen e Islam bus ke neechay dene ko taiyaar ho. Kuch bhi ho jaye bus hamaray babay bach jaaien.
The Untouchable
MPA (400+ posts)
Idiot.How about following :
I know these crap written by these scholars before your scumbag pointed in his bakwaseyat.
I am not a follower of either of them nor they are the founders of their sects.
They will have to answer to their creator about their statements not me.
Why is your cursed impostor so afraid of going to their institutions and highlight them the polytheism stories in their scholars books and have a solid debate between them so we can reach to a certain point rather then that your Haram chicken is only highlighting these stories in his home to his baby chickens and hiding behind the bush.
Oh......I wonder .He has no balls. and
If you think he has the balls then i think there is no water inside them.
The Untouchable
MPA (400+ posts)
Firstly i never believed in any Aulias or Buzurg ever since when i was a kid and will never untill my last breath.
Secondly I am not a follower of any of those books or scholar.
They might have written those polytheism stories in their books and they will have to answer to their creator but what has that got to do with an ordinary man like you and me why doesn't he go to their institutions and have solid debate with them but no his mission is not that his mission is throw venom on to certin Sahaba kiram and hide in the umbrella of the Rafzis.
The Untouchable
MPA (400+ posts)
I am passing my judgment after listening to his lecturers in 2017 , 2018 and i came across he only takes the Ahadiths in which the passers are either shias or khawarjs rather then that he hardly takes a Haddith from authenticity.
So you think he has the absolute knowledge of Sahaba kiram and after 1400 years later we found someone who can clarify us that certain Sahaba were wrong and trouble maker i would suggest you to listen to his old and new lecturers carefully and in which he claims a pamphlet go and check passers of those Ahadiths and then judge yourself.
The Untouchable
MPA (400+ posts)
آوئے تُو فیر آ گیاں
ذات دا یوتھیا تے شیراں نُو جھپے
تُو سُنیا نہیں کھپتان نے اکھیا اے لتاں چُکن وچ 6 مہینے رہ گئے نے
ساری پی ٹی آئی قوسے وچ لے جانی اے
فیر تُسی کہنا کپتان نے سچ کہا تھا میں ان کو رُولاں گا
او رونا اسی نہیں بلکہ تُسی اے
یاد رکھو باجوے نے بغیر تھوک لائے کام پا دینا
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
By writing in big bold multicoloured fonts your worthless argument won't hold any extra weight, just makes you look even more stupid than you actually are. But being a dumb ass patwari I doubt that's even possible!
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
? ? ? ? ? Sher to dekho, jo chuway ki tarah apni bill mein chupay huway hai. Ek apnay abbai gaon London mein us doosra Lahore. Aur teesri chui jati mujrah mein. Khud sara maal loot kha ke bhaag gaye aur tum jaise chootiyon ko peechay chord gaye naaray maarne ke liye!
Wadda aya sher ka mama.
