Dr. Shireen Mazari resigns from Pakistan Tehreek Insaf

PakiPatriot

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr Mazari Leaves PTI..

You are asking Principles and Uprightness in Pakistan like country. The same were asking like Sherin Mazari (who till the end didn't declared her assets BTW).

PTI has to give tickets to about 900 candidates. So tell me how many of them will fulfil your requirement? May be about 50%.


We are not living among the angels. There are Very bad, Bad, Average, Good and Very Good people in our society. We have to select from these categories. But I am sure IK will select at least from Average to Very Good.

Purification process should be gradual not all of a sudden. It is not possible. IF PTI could stop development funds to MNA and MPA and making these position less lucrative, we will certainly Good to good people in parliament next time.
i am not supporting shireen mizari.. i m just saying that our loyalty should be with the principles rather than with the people. Because people change and if people change we should be able to stand up and correct them..
 

asmirza

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Dr Mazari Leaves PTI..

PTI Youth khuda ka waasta hai gali galoch se baaz raho.


Although some trolls will pretend to be PTI and abuse her..
کتوں کو کہ رہے ہو بھونکنا چھوڑ دیں
جس دن نہ بھونکے مر جائیں گے یہ
 

PakiPatriot

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Dr Mazari Leaves PTI..

Agreed.

So how do you see Mazari's departure from PTI, keeping in mind she only resigned just because of a show-cause notice? And you do know why the show-cause notice was issued. Don't you?
Thanks...
i m not giving a verdict in favor or against shireen mizari.. i m just talking our general attitude.. that we start loving personalities so much that when they change we change too, when they become corrupt we start defending their corruption too.. I dont know the whole history of shireen mizari.. But i believe she should have cleared herself before leaving the party..
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Dr Mazari Leaves PTI..

کتوں کو کہ رہے ہو بھونکنا چھوڑ دیں
جس دن نہ بھونکے مر جائیں گے یہ

Sun ve sonya Mirzaya ve teri sehba niklee dokhabaaz
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AstanoshKhan

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Dr Mazari Leaves PTI..

Thanks...
i m not giving a verdict in favor or against shireen mizari.. i m just talking our general attitude.. that we start loving personalities so much that when they change we change too, when they become corrupt we start defending their corruption too.. I dont know the whole history of shireen mizari.. But i believe she should have cleared herself before leaving the party..

Everyone should adopt such attitude I endorse your POV. In my personal view, she left PTI just because of her daughter, this show-cause notice is a cover up story to justify her resignation. She is a an articulate, professional and level headed women, but many at times in-fact most of the times, prefer family over anything else.
 

adil786

Minister (2k+ posts)
She is keep saying that there is no personal issue but in the same time she is saying that misshapen to my daughter & the bigmony,is this not personal.actually every one wants to b a leader & no one even try to give up.u can't b a leader unless u have a ability.
 

AstanoshKhan

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
[h=1]Shireen Mazari’s Resignation Letter[/h]26SEPImran Khan, Esq
Chairman PTI,
Islamabad 25[SUP]th[/SUP] September 2012



Dear Imran,

It is with great sadness and disappointment that I am writing to let you know I have been compelled to leave PTI. As you know, when you came to see me at the time you had just formed PTI, I had made a commitment to you that I would join PTI only whenever I was able to join direct politics, especially electoral politics. I totally agreed with your vision for change, especially in the context of foreign policy which has always been a central focus of mine for over 40 years. So it was with absolutely no hesitation that I came to see you in 2008 after the elections PTI boycotted. I joined PTI with no bargaining for any position. All I sought was an assurance that the same ideals, again especially in terms of change and foreign policy, still prevailed.

I worked for the Party and tried to help any way I could – be it with Omar Cheema in the media or with the administration of the Islamabad office as well as formulating an alternate viable foreign policy narrative for the Party. The most encouraging and vital aspect of PTI at the time was the driving sense everyone had that we were going to be the harbingers of change not only in terms of nationalist policies for Pakistan but also in a new egalitarian non-elitist political culture. In fact this egalitarianism prevailed throughout the party beginning with yourself, which allowed for a truly democratic interaction in the Party.

In addition, your appeal of change was your own style of politics where you reached out directly to the masses of the electorate. It may have taken a long time but the Lahore 2011 jalsa was the game changer for Pakistan’s electoral politics. Unfortunately after the Lahore Oct 2011 jalsa, after which you, like ZA Bhutto, could have built up your party’s existing leadership including the large group of middle class and professional followers you had into potential “electables” who would directly interact with the people, you chose to open the floodgates for old traditional “electables”.

So, after trying to accept the new PTI realities for some time, I feel in all honesty I cannot go along with this post-Lahore PTI for the following reasons:


  1. This shift in moving from directly reaching out to the electorate to using intermediaries – the so-called “electables” – between the people and yourself has gradually turned the PTI into a traditional political party with all the excess baggage that that connotes. No doubt some of these “electables” are indeed financially clean, but to effectively hand them control of the Party was unwarranted. After all if they were so skilled and committed to principles then why were they unable to formulate policies to improve the country? Most had been Party hopping and had occupied public offices for substantive time periods yet they represented no stream of change or an alternative narrative to the status quo. The energy policy of PTI reflects this status quo mindset as does the economic policy which is effectively purely a fiscal policy set to please the IMF! A whole critique can be made of the economic policy but the main point is that it has no relief for the common man, including a total absence of any reduction in utility rates. It is strange that while you have been critiquing GST and indirect taxation consistently and correctly, the PTI economic policy has done a total reversal on this position – reflective of the policy shifts being made in PTI.
  2. A new culture of money has sprung up with big money taking over Party programmes. The plane and helicopter dependency is one reflection of this but so are other disturbing happenings like the donation of Rs 50 lakhs by one individual to some ISF leaders directly – ostensibly for aiding the membership drive – instead of it going via the Party account.
  3. The membership drive itself through membership booklets has some serious questions hanging over it and I did try to raise these in the PSC meeting on the issue but to no avail. I still maintain that by selling the booklets we allowed the rich members to purchase huge amounts of the booklets and then make their members with no check on whether these books were being filled simply to build up local support for the intra party elections at Union and District levels or whether the members being enlisted were genuinely believers and supporters of PTI! Also rumours abound about motorbikes and other gifts being given by the big money players to people who managed to make a certain number of members. In other words, the intra-Party elections are not going to be held on a level playing field by any yardstick!
  4. The reality is that today PTI has been effectively taken over by traditional politicians reflecting big money and/or feudal “sardars”. As if that is not disappointing enough, retired civil and military bureaucrats have also found senior niches in the Party. Tragically none of these new entrants can bring about the change which PTI had been promising.
  5. To make matters worse, our think tanks which contain some of the most senior technocrats have been totally ignored in policy making despite some very competent people being present there like Mr Pervez Butt who headed our PAEC for many years. All these competent people have been either totally ignored or treated with utter disdain by the big money players.
  6. As for the incident in Rajanpur, I maintain my position that you could have driven the one hour distance from DG Khan to Rajanpur and I had offered Mr Tareen for your group to stay overnight at my village if you could not make it to Mr Tareen’s farm in Lodhran. The next day you had to go to Sindh and my village was much closer and Mr Tareen has an airstrip next door in Jamaldinwali so his plane could have come to pick your party up. That I made the critical speech before our people in Rajanpur was necessary as I felt their pain – since they had waited from 11 am right uptil 4 45 pm! Many were flood affectees and to simply suggest that they should be reassembled from across the district the next day was not possible.
  7. Sadly, instead of resolving the issue amicably, your social media and their “trolls” chose to use filthy abuses against my daughter which compelled her to leave the party; and you chose to adopt a vengeful posture by serving me with a show cause notice and then sending a message that I should make a public apology and retract my statement. Since I maintain I did nothing wrong and since there was nothing incorrect in my statement about the takeover of the Party, I will not dignify the show cause notice with a response – especially since the points cited in it also happen to be factually incorrect.
  8. I have never doubted your integrity or commitment but unfortunately you are being overwhelmed by those who have never had an ideology in all the years they were in politics or the bureaucracy. It is not enough to simply have faith in you because a Party is defined by more than one man – it is defined by its collective leadership.
  9. I hope that we are not reduced to abuse and name calling on the social media again as it will not do anyone any good. I do not want to reduce myself to personal attacks and we refrained from such filth even when my daughter was being subjected to filthy abuse. But there are limits to everyone’s patience.
  10. If PTI really does choose to revert to directly relating to the masses, its original character and ideology of change and justice, I will be there to serve the Party in any way I can. For me coming into electoral politics through PTI was simply to affect national agendas in a way that qualitatively changes Pakistan for the better. Sadly, the commitment to change, that made us all in PTI develop a comradeship and bond that was unique, is withering away fast in all but name. So it is with a heavy heart that I leave PTI knowing that the only change PTI has brought has been in yourself and the nature of the collective leadership.

Shireen M Mazari
 

Sohraab

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Dr Mazari Leaves PTI..

What happend earlier to her daughter... she has described in her recent press conference how PTI youth abused her daughter on social media.. earlier i was very much hopeful that this kind of attitude will improve and youth will start thinking positively and they will start respecting ppl of opposite thoughts.. but noooooooooooo its just like a dog's tail and will never be straightend.. just wait and see how they will react when imran khan will be in power...i bet they will abuse him aswell... we are moraly corrupt nation... only have slogans and nothing else...
Imran khan ke supporter Imran khan ko kabhi Gali nahi dain gay because they are PHD in abusing Others
 

jangjoo786

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

شیرین مزاری کے لیے دعا ہے کہ جہاں بھی رہیں خوش رہیں۔
مگر ایسے مرحلہ پر جب ساری پارٹیاں پی ٹی آیی کے خلاف متحد ہوگیی ہیں۔
اور پارٹی میں الیکشن بھی ہورہا ہے۔
ایسے مرحلہ میں مزاری صاحبہ کا پارٹی کو چھوڑجانا
اس کی بدنیتی کو ظاہر کررہا ہے۔
اس سے پہلے اس کی بیٹی نے بھی اپنی بچگانہ حرکات کی وجہ سے پارٹی کو بدنام کرنے
کی کافی کوشش کی تھی۔اور بھاڑے کے ٹٹو یعنی نصرت جاوید ،جاوید چودھری،نجم سیٹھی
وغیرہ کو پارٹی پر تنقید کا کافی موقع دیا۔
ویسے شیرین مزاری سے مجھے یہ توقع نہیں تھی۔
ہر بات اور عمل کا ایک وقت ہوتا ہے۔
پارٹی میں اس اہم ترین موقع پر شیرین مزاری کا یہ عمل اس کی سوچ کی بالکل نفی کرتا ہے۔
اور اس کی پارٹی کے خلاف خطرناک عزایم کو بھی ایکسپوز کرتا ہے۔
افسوس کہ پارٹی کو اس طرح سے نقصان کی کوشش سے اس نے اپنی پوزیشن کو کمپرومایز
کیا ۔
 

PAINDO

Siasat.pk - Blogger
عورت کی نفسیات کچھ ایسی ہے سب کچھ برداشت کر لیتی ہے مگر سوتن نہیں جاوید ہاشمی شاہ محمود قریشی اسعد عمر کے پی ٹی آئی جوائن کرنے کے بعد سے خالہ جی میں سوتن والی حس غالب آ گئی اور خالہ جی اپنے مطالبات منوا کر اپنی حیثیت کا احساس دلوانا چاہتی تھیں اب دل برداشتہ ہو کر یہ قدم اٹھا لیا ہے خالہ جی اگر عمران خان اتنے چھوٹے چھوٹے معملات میں آپکی مرضی سے چلنا شروع کر دیتا تو عمران کو لیڈر کون کہتا خیر خالہ جی اب آپ اللہ اللہ کیا کریں اپنے لئے بھی اور ہمارے لئے بھی دعا کیا کریں اور ہاں اب "چھتے " آپ کو اچھے نہیں لگتے وڈیرا بندہ "بکل" میں زیادہ صوبر لگتا ہے


اس خبر سے نورا لیگ تو یوں خوش ہورہی ہے جیسے نورا لیگ نے کوئی بہت بڑا کارنامہ انجام دے دیا ہو
 

saeed khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Dr Mazari Leaves PTI..

Moral Of the Story:
Making tall claims is easy than done in real life, How easily imran prefere a "tummandar" over a "worker"(clap)

I know, I know....Sheeps always follows blindly!!


Professor sahib

Yes those people can be said "sheep" who still support those politicians who did not take part in demonstrations in favour of holy prophet
pbuh just for the safety of their lives and those people can be said "sheep"who act like this in front of their leaders.


http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...jda-to-Benazir-s-Portrait-Yeh-kia-Jahalat-hay




 

Sohraab

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Afsoos ki Siwa aur kia kiya ja sakta hai , aaj PTI ko bohut bara Nuqsan hua hai Imran Khan ko chahiyee ke Haq Baat ka saath de warna Sonami in Luteeron ko bahanay ki bajai Khud Ganday Naalay main ja kar gire gaPTI ke Seculars aur Pervez Musharraf ko yeh JEET mubarak ho Shireen Mazari WELL DONE .. you Did a great JOb .. bohut acha aur bohut Izzat aur Asool wala kaam kia par yeh baat Imran khan ke Jahil Gawaar Internet Gaaliyan bakne walon ko Samajh nahi aai gi Imran Khan ko Pervezi Kutttton ke saath Inquilab lane do .. Inquilaab to door ki baat Imran khan us Izzat se bhi jai ga jo us ne Itne saalon main banai ga
 

MYCOUNTRY

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Dr Mazari Leaves PTI..

I respect her/ her decision,,,,,,,,,,But really I feel sorry if she left PTI,,,,,I do hope she will not go to PML / PPP /MQM ................and will come back to PTI .
 

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