Concept of Beard in Islam
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Citizen X
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The sunnah of our beloved Prophet was the Quran he was given and following of what is in that Quran. Not beards, how long or short they be, not dresses, should they be above the ankles or below them, not miswaks.
The Prophet was a man of his time and people. So he looked liked them and dressed like them. The biggest enemies of the Prophet and Islam, Abu Lahab and Abu Jahal also had beards, so were they also following his sunnah?
Use your God given common sense and not entangle yourself in these meaningless acts and rituals, which have no base in the deen of Allah. You think our great creator, the rehman, the raheem is so petty that he cares whether you have a beard or not? Or weather your shalwar is above your ankles or below it?
The Prophet was a man of his time and people. So he looked liked them and dressed like them. The biggest enemies of the Prophet and Islam, Abu Lahab and Abu Jahal also had beards, so were they also following his sunnah?
Use your God given common sense and not entangle yourself in these meaningless acts and rituals, which have no base in the deen of Allah. You think our great creator, the rehman, the raheem is so petty that he cares whether you have a beard or not? Or weather your shalwar is above your ankles or below it?
Wake up Pak
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There is no such thing as a required beard in Islam. Both Abu Jahal and Abi Lahab had beards. In fact, before the time of Nabi Kareem, beards were the standard.
Nobody forbids someone from growing a beard, but don't link it to Islam.
Nobody forbids someone from growing a beard, but don't link it to Islam.
Wake up Pak
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People who follow the faith of their ancestors mindlessly would fall for anything because they don't use their God-given brains to reason and reflect.
Munkarin e Hadith Logic
No Namaz
No Roza
No Haj
No Zakat
No Jihad
only love and fresh air, enjoy , maadar piddar aazad, shadi bhe q krni bus live in relation main raho , shadi ka Islam sy kia talaq
parda to bus dil main hona chayea, jo marzi aai kapray pahno . absolte freedom
bus angraizoo ko khush krna hy nothing else
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No Namaz
No Roza
No Haj
No Zakat
No Jihad
only love and fresh air, enjoy , maadar piddar aazad, shadi bhe q krni bus live in relation main raho , shadi ka Islam sy kia talaq
parda to bus dil main hona chayea, jo marzi aai kapray pahno . absolte freedom
bus angraizoo ko khush krna hy nothing else
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Citizen X
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No replied required for such idiotic and moronic assumptions.
Masud Rajaa
Siasat member
daarhi rakhna ko zarori nahi
hazoor ka tarz amal zaroori hai
hazoor ka tarz amal zaroori hai
Wake up Pak
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Hazoor ka tarz amal siraf Quran may hay. Allah nay apna Deen Quran may mukammal kar diya hay.
asal baat munkareene qurano hadis ki nahin hai. asal baat ye hai keh jin ilfaaz ko insaanu ne suna hai unhune un ka matlab kia liya hai aur unhune aisa matlab liya kyun hai?
koi insaan jo khud ko muslim kehta ya kehlaata hai woh quran ka munkir ho hi nahin sakta. albatta behs is baat per hai keh kia jo matlab us ne quraan ke ilfaaz ka suna hai woh drust ho sakta hai? kis bunyaad per?
ye baat arbi zabaan jaanane se pata nahin chalti balkeh is baat se pata chalti hai keh quraan ke nazool ka asal maqsad kia hai? aur quraan ke mutaabiq woh maqsad insaan poora kaise ker sakte hen? issi tarah ke sawalaat ka jawaab maloom kerne ka naam quraan ki drust samajh hai. warna jis tarah hamaare bache bache ko apni maadri zabaan aati hai arab bachun ko bhi apni zabaan aati hai magar bache ki apni samajh hoti hai aur bade ki apni. unjaan ki apni aur jaanane ya ilm waale ki apni.
kyun unpadh jahil mullaan ke peechhe log aankhen band ker ke chale jaa rahe hen bhaid bakriyun ki taran? hai naa sochne ki baat ya nahin? mullaan unjaan aur jahil is liye hen keh woh peda unjaan huwe aur apni haqaaiq se mutaliq jahaalat per date huwe hen. haqeeqat ko maloom hi nahin kerna chahte. yahee to kaafir logoon se quraan ko gila hai. to kufaar aur mullaan main farq kia huwa? balkeh mullaan kufaar se bhi bahot aage hen is liye keh ye log quraan ko tod marod ker pesh kerte hen logoon ke saamne.
rahee baat namaaz ki to jis ne quraan se namaaz saabit kerni hai woh aaye aur saabit ker ke dikhaaye. quraan ke lafze salaah ka maani namaaz kerna bikul ghalat hai. agar ye drust hai to kis bunyaad per ye baat saabit kerni pade gi.
her zabaan ke aik aik lafz ke kayee kayee maani hote hen aur arbi zabaan ke aik aik lafz ke hazaarun hazaarun maani ho sakte hen. kaise maloom huwa keh quraan main salaah ka maani namaaz hai? ya hajj ka maani kaabe ki ziyaarat hai, ya zakaat ka maani woh hai jo mullaan ne kiya hai? yaa sowm ka maani roza rakhna hai bhook payaas ka waghera waghera?
sab se bad ker ye sawaal hai keh in rasumaat se insaaniyat ko haasil kia hota hai siwaaye waqt ke ziyaa ke? ham ko mullaan bataate rahe insaan pooja paat ka aadhi hai aur woh pooja paat ke baghair reh hi nahin sakta. agar mullaah ka ye dawa drust hai to aaj ham dekh rahe hen keh aksar log pooja paat nahin kerte. un ko pooja paat karwaane ke liye un per zulmo ziyaadati ki jaati hai. jisse saaf zahir hai log pooja paat nahin kerna chahte.
ye duniya aik maadi shai hai aur is main maadi qawaneene qudrat hi chalte hen. agar koi jahil hawaee baaten yani ghair mantaqi aur ghair haqeeqi baaten kare ka to jahil hi kehlaaye ga.
quraan ka koi aik hi tarjma ya tafseer bataa den jo quraan ki saheeh maanu main tarjumaani kerte hun? ye jahil logoon ki likhi hui baaten maloom hoti hen. is liye keh ye ghair mantaqi aur ghair haqeeqi baatun se bhari padi hen. in logoon ne aur kuchh saabit kiya ho ya nahin magar khudaa ko bahot badaa bewaqoof zaroor saabit kiya hai apni betuqi mehnat se, ya ye zaroor hi sabit kiya hai keh quraan khudaa ki kitaab ho hi nahin sakti kyunkeh is main ehmqaana baaten hen aur khudaa to ahmaq nahin hai aur na hi ho sakta hai.
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pinionated
Minister (2k+ posts)
Just compare Fazlu vs IK
Now tell me what difference a beard makes
Now tell me what difference a beard makes
khudaa insaanu ke ghalat kaamun ki jazaa achhi nahin deta yahee us ka qanoon hai. ghalat kaamun ka nateeja hamesha ghalat hi ho ga.
mujhe ab dr israar jaise logoon per bhi shak guzarta hai keh aise log idaarun ke hi bande the aur hen. warna aise padhe likhe logoon ki betuki baaten kerne ki koi khaas wajah samajh main nahin aati.
in ko promote kerne waale kon log hen jo ummat ko aisi haalat main hi rakhna chahte hen keh woh ahmaq hi rahe? is ke log kisi kaam ke na rahen.
in ko promote kerne waale kon log hen jo ummat ko aisi haalat main hi rakhna chahte hen keh woh ahmaq hi rahe? is ke log kisi kaam ke na rahen.
atensari
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
غلام احمد پرویز اداروں کا بندہ تھا. جنرل ایوب کی عیاش طبع سے کون واقف نہیں اسے غلام احمد پرویز ہی ملا تھا نوازنے کے لئے
"Though Parvez’s idea was initially supported by the Ayub Khan regime (1958-69), the government soon backed out when Parvez was vehemently attacked by conservative religious parties and scholars"
https://www.newageislam.com/islamic...l-spiritual-rebel-ghulam-ahmed-parvez/d/99206
bayfikar raho , tum ko lag pata jae ga kon sahi tha or kon kis ky propaganda pr kaam kr raha tha, Hedayat ky talab gaar ko hedayat mil jate hy wrna vo phatakta he phirta hy or kehta hy hum to Islah kr rahay hain,
aap apne naqaat zara khul ker bayaan kiya karen taa keh mujhe bhi pata chal sake keh aap kehna kia chahte hen. taa keh main bhi aap ko munaasib jawaab dene ki koshish ker sakun.
mere nazdeek parwez sb ne jo kaam kiya islam ke naam per us main bhi bahot si ghalatiyan hen. woh islam ko sirf deen nahin samajhte the balkeh mazhab bhi samajhte the. haan us qadar nahin jis qadar modoodi sb aur dr israar sb samajhte the.
yahee wajah hai main deegar logoon ke muqaable main parwez sb ko behtar samajhta hun drust nahin.
main aap ki tarah lakeer ka faqeer bilkul nahin hun. jin baatun ko main usoolun ki bunyaad per drust samajhta hun un ke mutaabiq mujhe kisi ki drust baat bhi drust hi lagti hai. chahe koi barailvi ho, deobandi ho, wahaabi ho, muslim ho ya ghair muslim.
is liye keh drust baat drust hi hoti hai chahe woh baat koi shaitaan hi kahe ya kare.
main befikar nahin ho sakta issi liye logoon ke liye apne afkaaro nazriyaat ka izhaar kerta rehta hun deene islam ke baare main. quraan ka yahee farmaana hai keh is ke paighaam ko khud theek tarah se samajh ker aage pohnchaao. taa keh insaaniyat raaste per aa jaaye aur woh maqsad poora karne main lag jaaye jo khudaa ne us ke liye muqarar kiya hai aur jis ke poora kerne ke liye hi us ne insaanu ko raasta bhi bataaya hai jis ko ham log deene islam ke naam se jaante hen.
khudaa ne paighambar aur kitaaben is liye nahin bhaije keh logoon ko agli duniya main drust baatun ka pata chale wahaan to woh maloomaat kisi kaam na aayen gi. us ne kitaaben aur paighambar issi liye bhaije taa keh insaanu ko issi duniya main drust aur ghalat ka faisla kerne main pakka mayaar mil jaaye.
yahee wajah hai asal deene islam sirf aur sirf wohee hai jo aqlo fikar aur haqaaiq ki roshni main drust saabit ho sake aur drust saabit kiya jaa sake.
asal deene islam logoon ko aankhen band ker ke deegar logoon ke peechhe chalne se rokta hai chahe woh log logoon ke apne baap daada hi kyun na hun. jis din aap in quraani baatun ko samajh jaayen ge aap bhi haqaaiq ki talaash main nikal khade hun ge. agar nahin niklen ge to phir aakhirat main to jo ho ga woh to ho hi ga magar jo issi duniya main aap ke saath ho ga woh bhi aap dekh len ge jaise bahot se pehle logoon ne dekha tha.
jis maani main aap samajh rahe hen keh hidaayat khudaa deta hai us maani main hidaayat khudaa nahin deta balkeh hidaayat khud leni padti hai apni mehnat se. khudaa ne hiyaadat de di hai apni kitaab de kar ab logoon ka apna kaam hai us ko theek tarah se samajhne ke liye us per mehnat kerna.
khudaa ne raasta bataa diya hai us per chalna insaanu ka apna kaam hai us manzil tak pohnchne ke liye jo khudaa ne insaanu ke liye muqarar ki hai.
agar aap munaasib samjhen to mujhe apne ulemaa ki madad se sunnat ki saheeh taareef bataa den. ye bunyaadi baat hai dekhta hun main keh aap isse kia samjhe hen aur kia aap ki woh samajh drust hai sunnat ke baare main. yahee matlab hai mera keh asal deene islam ko haqaaiq ki roshni main samajhna padta hai. haqaaiq se hat ker bebunyaad aqeedun ki bunyaad per nahin. issi liye aap dekhen ge ham issi duniya main faisla ker len ge drust baat kia hai.
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JusticeLover
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داڑھی نہ رکھنے والا میرا امتی نھیں ایسا کچھ نھیں کہا یہ مولوی کی اپنی اصطلاح ھے۔
داڑھی رکھنا نہ رکھنا انسان کی اپنی مرضی ھے، اسلام میں اسکی فرضیت نھیں یہ ایک اضافی اچھا عمل تو ھو سکتا ھے۔
کاش یہ مولوی جتنا زور داڑھی پر ریتے ھیں کردار پر اتنا زور ھوتا تو قوم کب کی ترقی کر جاتی۔
اس طرح تو گدھے اور خچر کی سواری بھی سنت ھے مولوی جانتے بوجھتے ھو سنت کو چھوڑ دینے ھیں اور انگریزی سواری استعمال کرتے ھیں ، تو ان کے اصول کو مان لیا جائے تو سنت کے سب سے بڑے منحرف یہ خود ھیں۔
داڑھی رکھنا نہ رکھنا انسان کی اپنی مرضی ھے، اسلام میں اسکی فرضیت نھیں یہ ایک اضافی اچھا عمل تو ھو سکتا ھے۔
کاش یہ مولوی جتنا زور داڑھی پر ریتے ھیں کردار پر اتنا زور ھوتا تو قوم کب کی ترقی کر جاتی۔
اس طرح تو گدھے اور خچر کی سواری بھی سنت ھے مولوی جانتے بوجھتے ھو سنت کو چھوڑ دینے ھیں اور انگریزی سواری استعمال کرتے ھیں ، تو ان کے اصول کو مان لیا جائے تو سنت کے سب سے بڑے منحرف یہ خود ھیں۔
atensari
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آپ اپنے نقاط ذرا مختصر بیان کیا کریں. لیکچر پڑھنے کے وقت کسی کے پاس نہیں ہوتا
میں نے کوئی نقطہ بیان نہیں کیا صرف بتایا ہے غلام احمد پرویز اداروں کا بندہ تھا
