CNN: Dr. Abdus Salam; Pioneer of "God Particle"

[A.G.Uddin]

I would say that we must make an effort to teach kids of Pakistan about Dr. Abdus Salam irrespective of him being an Ahmadi. Diloun ka haal Allah SWT janta hai. Hum Issac Newton,Erwin Schrdinger,Robert Boyle aur Blaise Pascal ke baray mein aur unke contributions ke baray mein tau zaroor padhana chaheinge apni Science ki classes mein,iski waja se kya humare bache Christian,Jewish ya Atheist bungaye ya bunne ka khatra hai?Tau jab in goroun ke baray mein padhkar humare students Murtid na hue tau what about Dr. Abdus Salam who was a son and native of Pakistan?

Haan unhoon ne kaha tha key unhein Quran-e-Pak se inspiration mili hai tau mere bhaiyoun Quran padhna har insaan ka haq hai aur woh chahe tau usse jaisi chahe inspiration derive kare.Ahmadi hazarat bhi akhir insaan tau hain.Salam sahab ne yeh kab kaha key unhein yeh success apne Ahmadi hone,apne Khalifa,apni Jamat ya Mirza sahab ki waja se naseeb hui hai? So I would say that we are definitely doing injustice with a legend.

 

[Dengue]

On January 20th of 1972, Nuclear engineer Sultan Bashiruddin Mehmood is addressing a conference in a classified meeting in Multan which later emerged as Multan Meeting. Here in this photo, President and Chief Martial Law Administrator (later elected Prime minister), Zulfikar Ali Bhutto is seated in center or (second right) with Abdus Salam, Science Adviser that time, on his (first right) and Ishrat Hussain Usmani on (far) right. Here, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto officially announced, authorized and orchestrated to build the atomic weapons in response to Indian nuclear efforts.

and the same PM declared ahmadis non muslim :) .. what a liberal/secular fundo he was .. _|_

 

[zindagi]

Kiani!!!!! u r impressive........100% agree with u..........
some scholar was telling k ye jo makhi hoti heina is ki aankh mein bohaaaaaaaaaaaaat say lenses hotey hein blah blah.......but ap jaisey kisi intellectual nay kaha k aisi ankh k bawjood us pay ***** hey k girti phir b gundi jagah pay hey.........same is the case here.......
meray bhai Farooq Khan nay kaha k Pakistan first and islam lator........NO WAY.......Islam is always and must always b at the first place........baqi sab baad mein...... i love my country Pakistan more then anybody else but not at the cost of Islam........hum sab aur hamara mulk, Islam ki service k liye hey.........so my dear Islam comes First......before anything else......

 

[Urooj_lbw]

bas yaar in Mulaah haraam khoron (offcourse not all mullahs) but there r alot of mullahs who created hatred among Pakistanis

Great scientist,,, Newton of Pakistan,,,,i wish we can produce only one more scientist like Abdul Salam. His very modern research institute is always open for Pakistani scientists. I heard that some of his good students were also the part of the team who discovered this new particle.:mash:

 

[Babatank]

sorry to say but I am not proud of Dr. Abdu salam if he was part ahmadi religion. He understood about the complicated facts of universe but couldn't understand that Mirza Ahmad Qadiyan could not be prophet of God when Quran said that we have completed the Islam and now it is complete. I didn't have any problem if he was chritian, hindu of pakistan but I personally don't like Murtad (who became non-muslim from muslim). for me he was stupid who preferred darkness on light. how can I be proud of such a foolish person.

What a foolish and naive person you are! It would be nice if you paused for a moment and revised your thoughts... my question to you is what if peoples from other religions start think like you? What if Hindu or Christians start doing the same with their people who converted Islam will be killed or would be declared second class citizen?

No, not him its you who preferred darkness on light. You couldn't do nothing for Pakistan while he received noble prize and serve the humanity, and you? You just spread and pump hate into the society! I am amazed at how confidently you spread false information's !

 

[Sohraab]

I would say that we must make an effort to teach kids of Pakistan about Dr. Abdus Salam irrespective of him being an Ahmadi. Diloun ka haal Allah SWT janta hai. Hum Issac Newton,Erwin Schrdinger,Robert Boyle aur Blaise Pascal ke baray mein aur unke contributions ke baray mein tau zaroor padhana chaheinge apni Science ki classes mein,iski waja se kya humare bache Christian,Jewish ya Atheist bungaye ya bunne ka khatra hai?Tau jab in goroun ke baray mein padhkar humare students Murtid na hue tau what about Dr. Abdus Salam who was a son and native of Pakistan?

Haan unhoon ne kaha tha key unhein Quran-e-Pak se inspiration mili hai tau mere bhaiyoun Quran padhna har insaan ka haq hai aur woh chahe tau usse jaisi chahe inspiration derive kare.Ahmadi hazarat bhi akhir insaan tau hain.Salam sahab ne yeh kab kaha key unhein yeh success apne Ahmadi hone,apne Khalifa,apni Jamat ya Mirza sahab ki waja se naseeb hui hai? So I would say that we are definitely doing injustice with a legend.

It is resposibility of each and every Pakistani to give awairness to Our kids and Youth about this Traitor and aasteen Ka Saanp Dr Abdus Salaam. There is a very big propanda from many years that he send many Pakistanis approximately 500 Pakistanis to Europe but the reality is all those Pakistanis aur Qadyanies .. He never sent a Single Muslim to Europe .. He was one of the Biggest Traitor of Pakistan of his times. He never Lose a single chance to Destroy Pakistan ..

 

[Sohraab]

I would say that we must make an effort to teach kids of Pakistan about Dr. Abdus Salam irrespective of him being an Ahmadi. Diloun ka haal Allah SWT janta hai. Hum Issac Newton,Erwin Schrdinger,Robert Boyle aur Blaise Pascal ke baray mein aur unke contributions ke baray mein tau zaroor padhana chaheinge apni Science ki classes mein,iski waja se kya humare bache Christian,Jewish ya Atheist bungaye ya bunne ka khatra hai?Tau jab in goroun ke baray mein padhkar humare students Murtid na hue tau what about Dr. Abdus Salam who was a son and native of Pakistan?

Haan unhoon ne kaha tha key unhein Quran-e-Pak se inspiration mili hai tau mere bhaiyoun Quran padhna har insaan ka haq hai aur woh chahe tau usse jaisi chahe inspiration derive kare.Ahmadi hazarat bhi akhir insaan tau hain.Salam sahab ne yeh kab kaha key unhein yeh success apne Ahmadi hone,apne Khalifa,apni Jamat ya Mirza sahab ki waja se naseeb hui hai? So I would say that we are definitely doing injustice with a legend.

Unhe yeh Inspiration apne Quran Tazkara se mili hogi :lol:

 

[Babatank]

@Sohraab another hater who is frustrated!

 

[Babatank]

Unhe yeh Inspiration apne Quran Tazkara se mili hogi :lol:

Wow! You admit that Ahmadi tazkara of Quran is the best to acknowledge the human beings.

 

[Believer12]

Kiani!!!!! u r impressive........100% agree with u..........
some scholar was telling k ye jo makhi hoti heina is ki aankh mein bohaaaaaaaaaaaaat say lenses hotey hein blah blah.......but ap jaisey kisi intellectual nay kaha k aisi ankh k bawjood us pay ***** hey k girti phir b gundi jagah pay hey.........same is the case here.......
meray bhai Farooq Khan nay kaha k Pakistan first and islam lator........NO WAY.......Islam is always and must always b at the first place........baqi sab baad mein...... i love my country Pakistan more then anybody else but not at the cost of Islam........hum sab aur hamara mulk, Islam ki service k liye hey.........so my dear Islam comes First......before anything else......

how pakistanis mullahs and their jahil followers like you serving islam for last 50 years world can see very easily. prisons are filled with those women who were raped and unfortunately went to the court for justice, court demanded 4 witnesses and these poor ladies could not provide and now in jails. their children born in these dark places and now children are young but still living in the jails.
you repeatedly said islam first ,,,,Dr Abdul salam proud of our nation was not mullah or religious scholar but he was like Newton or other scientists .we praised and we are happy he belongs to a backword area and poor family and today worlk knew him due to his knowledge and wisdom.
islami country of pakistan i wish you could go to the court for justice and than suddenly your eyes will open. today number 4 in corruption and cruality .police beating young girls in the police stations and gang rapes are happening under the police protection.everybody had been looted in this country and some for two three times.
you should proud on them no we,,,,,this is not islam and islam does nto teach that.your explanations above about islam is totally wrong thats why we are in the bottom of human lines.tell me where is islam in pakistan???

 

[Sohraab]

Wow! You admit that Ahmadi tazkara of Quran is the best to acknowledge the human beings.

No my dear !!!

I just remind you Guys that the Name of qadyani Quran is Tazkara

For Me Abdus salam was a Nalayak Tareen Banda but he is very fortunate bacause of propagandists like u and your other fellows ..

 

[Sohraab]

sorry to say but I am not proud of Dr. Abdu salam if he was part ahmadi religion. He understood about the complicated facts of universe but couldn't understand that Mirza Ahmad Qadiyan could not be prophet of God when Quran said that we have completed the Islam and now it is complete. I didn't have any problem if he was chritian, hindu of pakistan but I personally don't like Murtad (who became non-muslim from muslim). for me he was stupid who preferred darkness on light. how can I be proud of such a foolish person.

don't forget if Mirza Ghulam ahmed qadyan was also great islamic scholar who challenged and defeated so many scholars from other religion before claiming to be prophet. should we be proud of him as well after what he did. if your answer is no then why should I be proud of Dr Abdu salam just because he invented something.

I don't have problem who are born qadiyanis but I hate those who converted from Muslim to qadyani or ahmedi or whatever.

No need to sorry for these GOLDEN WORDS :)

 

[Sohraab]

I would say that we must make an effort to teach kids of Pakistan about Dr. Abdus Salam irrespective of him being an Ahmadi. Diloun ka haal Allah SWT janta hai. Hum Issac Newton,Erwin Schrdinger,Robert Boyle aur Blaise Pascal ke baray mein aur unke contributions ke baray mein tau zaroor padhana chaheinge apni Science ki classes mein,iski waja se kya humare bache Christian,Jewish ya Atheist bungaye ya bunne ka khatra hai?Tau jab in goroun ke baray mein padhkar humare students Murtid na hue tau what about Dr. Abdus Salam who was a son and native of Pakistan?

Haan unhoon ne kaha tha key unhein Quran-e-Pak se inspiration mili hai tau mere bhaiyoun Quran padhna har insaan ka haq hai aur woh chahe tau usse jaisi chahe inspiration derive kare.Ahmadi hazarat bhi akhir insaan tau hain.Salam sahab ne yeh kab kaha key unhein yeh success apne Ahmadi hone,apne Khalifa,apni Jamat ya Mirza sahab ki waja se naseeb hui hai? So I would say that we are definitely doing injustice with a legend.

Last Peragraph of your Post brought Tears in my Eyes :lol:

I am crying like hell [hilar]

 

[k.a.kiani]

What a foolish and naive person you are! It would be nice if you paused for a moment and revised your thoughts... my question to you is what if peoples from other religions start think like you? What if Hindu or Christians start doing the same with their people who converted Islam will be killed or would be declared second class citizen?

No, not him its you who preferred darkness on light. You couldn't do nothing for Pakistan while he received noble prize and serve the humanity, and you? You just spread and pump hate into the society! I am amazed at how confidently you spread false information's !

If you are muslim then I tell you about the following Aya of quran about apostasy and if you are not muslim then I can't make you understand anything
Aya (2:217)
aya (3:86-90)
aya (4:137)
(9:66)
(9:74)
(16:106-109
(4:88-91)
(47:25-27)

if you have sometime then go through above aya and decide yourself.
Mind it, I never said that they should be murdered or killed. don't put your word in my mouth. this will clearly prove you that who is in darkness.

 

[k.a.kiani]

how pakistanis mullahs and their jahil followers like you serving islam for last 50 years world can see very easily. prisons are filled with those women who were raped and unfortunately went to the court for justice, court demanded 4 witnesses and these poor ladies could not provide and now in jails. their children born in these dark places and now children are young but still living in the jails.
you repeatedly said islam first ,,,,Dr Abdul salam proud of our nation was not mullah or religious scholar but he was like Newton or other scientists .we praised and we are happy he belongs to a backword area and poor family and today worlk knew him due to his knowledge and wisdom.
islami country of pakistan i wish you could go to the court for justice and than suddenly your eyes will open. today number 4 in corruption and cruality .police beating young girls in the police stations and gang rapes are happening under the police protection.everybody had been looted in this country and some for two three times.
you should proud on them no we,,,,,this is not islam and islam does nto teach that.your explanations above about islam is totally wrong thats why we are in the bottom of human lines.tell me where is islam in pakistan???

If you read what I said and with which "zindagi" is getting agreed then you would not have said such thing. You know, I am against those Mullahs lot more than you and consider them enemy of Islam more than non-muslims. But I just gave my opinion in the light of Quran what it said about Apostate. It was my humble opinion and I used word "sorry" before giving this opinion. You have utter right to get disagree with it. I just pointed the contradiction of Dr. abdu salam' knowledge about God and God's universe. if you are muslim then I invite you to read these Aya, which will tell you about what Quran say about Apostate. I am 100% sure that you would also start thinking that should you be proud of him or not.

read translation of following Aya please.

2:217, 3:86-90, 4:137, 9:66, 9:74, 16:106-109, 4:88-91, 47:25-27

my problem is that I am muslim and I have to believe what Quran says and I can't go against it whether I like it or not because my knowledge, logic and wisedom is limited. God knows better and what he said is ultimate truth and I am no one who challenges it.
I am sorry if you feel hurt in any of what I said

 

[tz00007]

knowing our molvis well.. i think that can be true as well... ive seen the jahalat of our molvi brothers..

i agree with u as a scientist, he is one of the greatest... not only on national level but on international level...he deserved a lot of respect..

Only Allah SWT knows if this is even true. I heard from somewhere that he would still try to come back in 1980s in order to setup a centre or lab,but Maulvis under Zia's rule never let that happen and kept on spreading rumours that he's coming here to preach his own beliefs. I even heard that based on international recognition that he received the best job he could have got in Zia's Pakistan was---------------------A Hostel Warden...how shameful!! But look at his commitment,Salam sahab remained a Pakistani citizen and didn't leave the Green Passport till his death.I don't belong to Ahmadiyya sect and so don't consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmed a Prophet,Mahdi or Mujaddid. But I don't think it gives me any right to deprive any Ahmadi of his basic human rights. I still consider Dr. Abdus Salam one of the greatest minds hailing from Pakistan and he must be appreciated and considered for his contributions. If one admires his professional and academic capabilities then it doesn't mean that he/she subscribes to Salam sahab's beliefs or sect.

 

[Haripur]

Bahio larney ke kia baat hai... He got noble prize not for being ahmadis or for being conspiring against his homeland. He got it for something in which he was genius. Accept it that Current research community in his area is getting some benefits from his research work. Atleast where ever his name will be called, Pakistan as his birth place will be called as well. Atleast he is better than all those true Muslims and Pakistanis who will die like insect with out being noticed or doing anything for their religion, country or man kind.

 

[BuTurabi]

Only Allah SWT knows if this is even true. I heard from somewhere that he would still try to come back in 1980s in order to setup a centre or lab,but Maulvis under Zia's rule never let that happen and kept on spreading rumours that he's coming here to preach his own beliefs. I even heard that based on international recognition that he received the best job he could have got in Zia's Pakistan was---------------------A Hostel Warden...how shameful!! But look at his commitment,Salam sahab remained a Pakistani citizen and didn't leave the Green Passport till his death.[HI]I don't belong to Ahmadiyya sect[/HI] and so don't consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmed a Prophet,Mahdi or Mujaddid. But I don't think it gives me any right to deprive any Ahmadi of his basic human rights. I still consider Dr. Abdus Salam one of the greatest minds hailing from Pakistan and he must be appreciated and considered for his contributions. If one admires his professional and academic capabilities then it doesn't mean that he/she subscribes to Salam sahab's beliefs or sect.

بہت افسوس ہوتا ہے جب آپ ایسے لوگ اچھی بھلی بات کرتے کرتے اپنی صفائی پیش کرنا شروع کر دیتے ہیں کہ جی میں احمدی نہیں ہوں لہٰذا میری بات کا یقین کیا جائے، میں پکا ٹھکا پاکستانی بھی ہوں وغیرہ وغیرہ۔
میں یا کوئی بھی کون ہوتا ہے آپ کی حُب الوطنی چیک کرنے والا یا کِسی کی احمدیت جانچنے والا؟
پاکستان ہر اُس شخص کا ہے جِسکے خمیر میں اِسکی مٹی شامل ہے اور وہ اِس سے اخلاص کا خواہشمند ہے۔ اُسے کِسی کو اپنا دِل چیر کر دکھانے کی ضرورت ہے نہ یقین دِلانے کی۔ جو ایسا کرتا ہے وہ اپنا یہ حق اُس مصنوعی فرزندِ مُلک و مِلت کے سامنے سرنڈر کرتا ہے جو اُس کی وطنیت پر شک کرتا ہے۔ حالانکہ وہ بھی اِس دھرتی کا برابر کا بیٹا ہے۔ یہ مُلک کِسی کے باپ کی جاگیر ہے نہ ماں کا جہیز جو باقیوں کو اپنی رعیت سمجھ کر اُس کا امیگریشن آفیسر بن بیٹھے۔

نہ ہی میں کِسی کو اپنے عقائد میں تانکا جھانکی کرنے دوں گا کہ یہ سب مالک اور اُسکے بندے کے بیچ ہے بلکہ کوئی میرا ایمان چیک کرنے سے پہلے اپنے ختنے چیک کروائے۔ لہٰذا کوئی قسیم الجنۃ بنے نہ داروغہ جہنم بننے کی کوشش کرے ورنہ نفرتوں میں تپتی یہ دُنیا انسانیت کو بھسم کرنے کی رفتار بڑھا دے گی۔
نہ صرف یہ کہ میں کِسی ٹٹ پونجیئے کو اِس قابل سمجھتا ہوں نہ ایسی کِسی بھی جواب طلبی کا حق دیتا ہوں بلکہ کِسی مُشٹنڈے یا دین کے ٹھکیدار کو اپنے ایمان اور دینی اعمال پر جوابدہی سے برملا اِنکار بھی کرتا ہوں۔

تاریخ نے قوموں کو دیا ہے یہی پیغام
حق مانگنا توہین ہے حق چھین لیا جائے​

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[A.G.Uddin]

بہت افسوس ہوتا ہے جب آپ ایسے لوگ جب اچھی بھلی بات کرتے کرتے اپنی صفائی پیش کرنا شروع کر دیتے ہیں کہ جی میں احمدی نہیں ہوں لہٰذا میری بات کا یقین کیا جائے، میں پکا ٹھکا پاکستانی بھی ہوں وغیرہ وغیرہ۔
میں یا کوئی بھی کون ہوتا ہے آپ کی حُب الوطنی چیک کرنے والا یا کِسی کی احمدیت جانچنے والا؟
یہ پاکستان ہر اُس شخص کا ہے جِسکے خمیر میں اِسکی مٹی شامل ہے اور وہ اِس سے اخلاص کا سچا خواہشمند ہے۔ اُسے کِسی کو اپنا دِل چیر کر دکھانے کی ضرورت ہے نہ یقین دِلانے کی۔ جو لوگ ایسا کرتا ہے وہ اپنا یہ حق اُس مصنوعی فرزندِ مُلک و مِلت کے سامنے سرنڈر کرتا ہے جو اُس کی وطنیت پر شک کرتا ہے حالانکہ وہ بھی اِس دھرتی کا برابر کا بیٹا ہے۔ یہ مُلک کِسی کے باپ کی جاگیر ہے نہ ماں کا جہیز جو باقیوں کو اپنی رعیت سمجھ کر اُس کا امیگریشن آفیسر بن بیٹھے۔

نہ ہی میں کِسی کو اپنے عقائد میں تانکا جھانکی کرنے دوں گا کہ یہ سب مالک اور اُسکے بندے کے بیچ ہے بلکہ کوئی میرا ایمان چیک کرنے سے پہلے اپنے ختنے چیک کروائے۔ لہٰذا کوئی قسیم الجنۃ بنے نہ داروغہ جہنم بننے کی کوشش کرے ورنہ نفرتوں میں تپتی یہ دُنیا انسانیت کو بھسم کرنے کی رفتار بڑھا دے گی۔
نہ صرف میں یہ کہ میں کِسی ٹٹ پونجیئے کو ایسی کِسی بھی جواب طلبی کا کا حق نہیں دیتا بلکہ کِسی مُشٹنڈے یا دین کے ٹھکیدار کو اپنے ایمان اور دینی اعمال کی جوابدہی سے برملا اِنکار بھی کرتا ہوں۔

تاریخ نے قوموں کو دیا ہے یہی پیغام
حق مانگنا توہین ہے حق چھین لیا جائے​

You are right but humare ek dost indigo sahab per Qadyani/Ahmadi hone ka label lagadiya gaya hai yehaan per kuch religious preachers ki janib se. Wohi religious "scholars" jo musalsal Ghamidi aur Ghulam Ahmed Pervaiz ko budnaam karne mein lage rehte hain.. Reason-indigo bechare ne Babatank ki ek post per bus ek bar Like click kardiya, aur hogayi unke belief ki theory tayyar.:lol:

 

[indigo]

just found interesting video

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