Can someone tell me what was the total vote count in karachi for mqm in 2008 general elections?

karachi

MPA (400+ posts)
I know your cheap tactic, when you have nothing to argue in the post, you mess around so that other people don't read the valuable contents in the thread.
Now you did a mistake, what is the spelling of "psychatrist" by the way? You wrote Psychiarist instead. So, should I tell, I have exposed you in your oxford English?
No, I will not, as I know mistakes happen.

Good One (clap)(clap)
 

Eternity

Citizen
I know your cheap tactic, when you have nothing to argue in the post, you mess around so that other people don't read the valuable contents in the thread.
Now you did a mistake, what is the spelling of "psychatrist" by the way? You wrote Psychiarist instead. So, should I tell, I have exposed you in your oxford English?
No, I will not, as I know mistakes happen.

Vrey Confident

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YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
Alright genious , here are the actual number. Total valid vote count in 2008 NA general elections in sindh was 8411541 and you are telling me 2500000 was from just Nazimabad in MQM's favor? you asked me to research .... I am sorry to disappoint you that I did just that . look for yourself ...others are welcome too. http://www.ecp.gov.pk/content/NA_turnout.pdf
Also this discussion was not about bashing MQM , I was just tryina make sense of what I see and hear from the MQMers in different talk shows. Unfortunately you made it an anti MQM discussion yourself. I didn't talk about any killings or PTI or I J I or PML ....was a general question that you turned into a different debate. Now according to your numbers about 35% of sindh votes came from Nazimabad ...does it really take a genius ?
Why everyone has this attitude of " I / we can never be wrong"?

lolzzz another mistake just quote the Exact figure related to Nazimabad seat which I mentioned as I mentioned that it was 250,000(Watch coma sign in the figure) not 2,500,000 so you are clearly mistaken and due to your zero mistake above where you made 25Lakh into 2Lakh50Hazaar which actually created confusion because according to my info MQM got record number of vote from single seat in election 2008 and that figure were close to 250,000....If you had any other intention then just check your words above...

no offence but how does MQM claim karachi to be only their city ( empower) with 250,000 votes when Karachi's population is over 180,00000 ? is it safe to say that besides couple hundred thousand other votes for other parties.... about 150,00000 people are either anti political parties or are scared to vote for anyone else besides MQM ?

These are just two lines where you used a word so what do you want to understand???I said if that is different story somewhere else then tell me how many constituencies in Pakistan has more 25-35% mandate in Pakistan???So by using this what else were your intention???Just by pointing out MQM among the rest and then commenting on just Karachi electoral while leaving whole Pakistan where things are almost same what else could I understand from all this???If MQM has got highest number of votes under the voters turnout how can you assure that rest of all wont vote MQM even if they ever vote????Even their are many peple I know in Karachi whos family dont vote but they did support MQM all because of above mentioned criteria so when you know little about somewhere then dont try to make analysis....MQM increased their Votebank upto 35% and in last election they were also able to get many votes from outside Karachi and Hyderabad as well...And about 35%votes coming from Nazimabad then where is it quoted that 35%votes are coming from Nazimabad???could you mentioned where it is said by anyone here???MQM has votebank all over Karachi that include almost every area except Liyari and Malir which are traditional PPP seats in Karachi except them MQM is all over Karachi....
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
i did it purposely (with intention) to check out what will be ur rply & U did it exactly What (GeoG) U do [hilar] [hilar]

Bhai GeoG ko kuch mat kehna yeh MBA graduate banda hai bas thora sa problem hai k Primery aur MBA mai farq nahi kar paraha he needs help...
 

Chaudhry_1960

Minister (2k+ posts)
no offence but how does MQM claim karachi to be only their city ( empower) with 250,000 votes when Karachi's population is over 180,00000 ? is it safe to say that besides couple hundred thousand other votes for other parties.... about 150,00000 people are either anti political parties or are scared to vote for anyone else besides MQM ? unless of course they are pathans or live in those areas where they don't feel threatened .If that's not the case and MQM has 95% of karachi's mandate , why such a low vote count ? and mind you as per info I counted all 250,000 votes towards Karachi to avoid any discrepancy on the only 3 lost seats.avor Hence counted all Hyderabad's vote in karachi's favor too . in reality though if we discounted Hyderabad's vote , say just 500,000. turn around of MQM votes come out to 200,000. why ?

I think the right answer is All Pakistani over 18 years of age (especially educated) should register their vote and cast it during election to make a change.
 

Khurram.k

Senator (1k+ posts)
wow .... the whole idea of this thread was to make sense of statements I hear in different shows , MQMers stating that they have the whole Karachi's mandate .Alas ! the reaction was what I hoped it wouldn't be .. from the "most educated community" of Pakistan. A question became " lame " first and then my soul became " disturbed " . I know one thing , with this attitude , sirf karachi hi aapka shehar reh jaye ga . Punjab ko bhool jaain .
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
wow .... the whole idea of this thread was to make sense of statements I hear in different shows , MQMers stating that they have the whole Karachi's mandate .Alas ! the reaction was what I hoped it wouldn't be .. from the "most educated community" of Pakistan. A question became " lame " first and then my soul became " disturbed " . I know one thing , with this attitude , sirf karachi hi aapka shehar reh jaye ga . Punjab ko bhool jaain .

Humay is ki itni fikar nahi k kahan kahan MQM phelay gi MQM nay 3 months pehlay Gilgit Baltistan mai entry mari thi aur aik seat jeeti + second largest party ban gai in terms of votes.....Aur jahan tak rahi baat Punjab ki tu MQM wahan pay apni ideology lay k gai hai qabza karnay nahi gai hai aur na hi Karachi mai qabza kar rakha hai aur agar aisa hai k MQM nay Karachi aur Hyderabad pay Qabza kia huwa hai tu itna sari development karnay ki kia zaroorat thi Mustafa Kamal ko???Agar qabza kia hota tu yeh teer guns aur ammunition say bhi mar sakti thi MQM itni mehnat ki kia zaroorat parhi thi???? agar logoon nai in ki ideology ko accept kar lia tu MQM ko koi nahi rook sakta aur agar logoon nay accept nahi kia aur 2 sarmayadaroon(PPP and PMLN) ki kabadi mai pistay rahay tu yeh un logoon ki marzi....

Jahan tak Karachi ka sawal hai Karachi mai MQM ko vote sirf 3 wajohat ki bana pay miltay hain
1. Educated representative.
2. Middle Class
3. Sense of Good Governance(Based on CDGK and KPT performances)

agar koi aur party aisa koi Alternative offer karti hai tu kon rook raha hai unko vote karnay ko????Yeh saari batain purani balkay Expire hochuki hain k MQM nay Karachi ko yarghamal bana rakha hai aur MQM Dehshat Gard hai Karachi mai aisi batoon pay kaan dharnay walay loog itna nahi hain aur jo is pay kaan dharta bhi hai woh kahin na kahin ja k admit kar laita hai k MQM achi jamat hai....Hamaray pass Punjab aur rest of Pakistan ki tarhan koi aur alternative nahi hai siwai MQM k kyun k pehlay PMLN aur PPP donoon nay hi Karachi ko khandar bananay mai koi kasar nahi chori thi jab k jamati aur Tehrik-e-Insaf extreme conservative ideology rakhtay hain jab k Karachi most Liberal city hai Pakistan ka....ap Lahore ya Faisalabad ko dekh k Karachi k baray mai opinion nahi bana saktay cause Lahore aur Punjab k dosray cities mai Aik hi ethnic group ki complete majority hai jab k Karachi mai Pakistan k tamam ethnic group bohat barhi tadad mai mujood hain Yahan tak k kuch ethnic groups aisa bhi hain jo shayad hi kisi aur city mai hongay Pakistan k(Sheedis, Memons, Bangali, Burmi) is liye yahan ka social structure aur Lahore ya phir kisi Punjab k city kay social structure mai Zameen Asmaan ka farq hai.....
 

Aijazahmed

Minister (2k+ posts)
wow .... the whole idea of this thread was to make sense of statements I hear in different shows , MQMers stating that they have the whole Karachi's mandate .Alas ! the reaction was what I hoped it wouldn't be .. from the "most educated community" of Pakistan. A question became " lame " first and then my soul became " disturbed " . I know one thing , with this attitude , sirf karachi hi aapka shehar reh jaye ga . Punjab ko bhool jaain .
I told you a disturbed soul, I said LOL after that means a joke with a brother. No negative intentions I had. But still sorry, if you took it personal.
Now tell me the truth, have you gone through my analysis in detail? Are you satisfied or not? Please share. I also like these kind of discussions.
 

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
wow .... the whole idea of this thread was to make sense of statements I hear in different shows , MQMers stating that they have the whole Karachi's mandate .Alas ! the reaction was what I hoped it wouldn't be .. from the "most educated community" of Pakistan. A question became " lame " first and then my soul became " disturbed " . I know one thing , with this attitude , sirf karachi hi aapka shehar reh jaye ga . Punjab ko bhool jaain .

خرم بھائی، آپ کو بھی یہ محسوس کرنا چاہیے کہ لوگ آپ کو نہیں جانتے، اور اکثر مخالفین کی طرف سے ایم کیو ایم پر انتہائی متعصب اور جھوٹے الزامات لگائے جاتے ہیں جسکی وجہ سے دوسری طرف بھی حساسیت پیدا ہو گئی ہے اور وہ مختلف قسم کے اعتراضات کرنے والوں میں فرق نہیں کر سکتے۔

بہرحال، میرا ایک بنیادی سوال کا جواب ابھی تک نہیں آیا ہے۔

اگر متحدہ کو پچیس لاکھ ووٹ ملے ہیں، تو کیا اے این پی، پیپلز پارٹی، جماعت اسلامی کو کُل ملا کر 5 یا دس لاکھ ووٹ مل سکے ہیں؟

میں ان مخالف جماعتوں کے انفرادی ووٹوں کے متعلق بات نہیں کر رہی، مگر انکے مجموعی ووٹ بینک کی بات کر رہی ہوں۔

اگر متحدہ کے پچیس لاکھ ووٹوں کے مقابلے میں ان اپوزیشن جماعتوں نے ملا کر بھی پچیس لاکھ ووٹ نہیں لیے تو بھی متحدہ دعوی کر سکتی ہے کہ کراچی میں اسکی اکثریت ہے۔ اور اگر اپوزیشن نے ملا کر پچیس کیا، پانچ یا دس لاکھ ووٹ بھی نہیں لیے تو پھر متحدہ اس صورت میں پچھتر یا اسی فیصد کراچی کے ووٹوں کی بالکل صحیح دعویدار قرار پائے گی۔

خرم بھائی،۔

آپ نے ہم پر اعتراض کیا ہے کہ ہم نے آپ کی بات کا مدلل جواب نہیں دیا ہے۔ میری آپ سے گذارش یہ ہے کہ آپ بھی ہمارے ساتھ انصاف کریں اور دوسری پارٹیوں کے ووٹوں کی کل تعداد بھی پیش کر دیں۔ یہ واحد طریقہ ہے اگر واقعی آپ اس مسئلے کو انصاف کے ساتھ حل کرنا چاہتے ہیں۔

 

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