Can India Win a Conventional War Against Pakistan?

gZionist

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Eradicating poverty in India requires every person having access to safe drinking water, sanitation, housing, nutrition, health and education. According to the MPI, out of its 1.2 billion-plus population, India is home to over 340 million destitute people and is the second poorest country in South Asia after war-torn Afghanistan. Some 640 million poor people live in India(40% of the world’s poor), mostly in rural areas, meaning an individual is deprived in one-third or more of the ten indicators mentioned above (malnutrition, child deaths, defecating in the open).

In South Asia, Afghanistan has the highest level of destitution at 38%. This is followed by India at 28.5%. Bangladesh and Pakistan have much lower levels. The study placed Afghanistan as the poorest country in South Asia, followed by India, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Nepal.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-gl...overty-and-social-inequality-in-india/5398001


A total of 1.6 billion people are living in multidimensional poverty; more than 30% of the people living in the 108 countries analysed (compare that with a global figure of 1.2 billion in income poverty)
Of these 1.6 billion people, 52% live in South Asia, and 29% in Sub-Saharan Africa. Most MPI poor people – 71% – live in Middle Income Countries (I won’t try and compare this with regional income breakdowns, as the MPI doesn’t cover all countries yet)

http://oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/measurin...idimensional-poverty-index-is-launched-today/

You should focus on Pakistan that is about to be oblivion.
You are invited to read my thread

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...ni-Hawks-Threaten-India-the-U-S-%96-and-Peace
 

RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
You should focus on Pakistan that is about to be oblivion.
You are invited to read my thread

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...ni-Hawks-Threaten-India-the-U-S-%96-and-Peace


There have been many before you who have forecasted the collapse of Pakistan....all proved wrong.

It was early 2009 when the Taliban appeared to be in control of Pakistan's Swat valley, and the US politicians and media were deeply concerned about the insurgents closing in on Islamabad.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Pakistan was “abdicating to the Taliban”. Various western commentators and pundits went further by predicting Pakistan's "imminent collapse", and the usual foreign policy rags chimed in with their shrill talk of Pakistan as a "failed state".

"We're now reaching the point where within one to six months we could see the collapse of the Pakistani state, also because of the global financial crisis, which just exacerbates all these problems. . . . The collapse of Pakistan, al-Qaeda acquiring nuclear weapons, an extremist takeover -- that would dwarf everything we've seen in the war on terror today", said David Kilcullen, George W. Bush's Iraq adviser, on the eve of Pakistan Day in 2009.

Others, such as Shahan Mufti of the Global Post, argued that Pakistan was dying a slow death with each act of terrorism on its soil.

Pakistanis have continued to defy all forecasts of doom and gloom for their country.


http://www.riazhaq.com/2011/03/resilient-pakistan-defies-doomsayers.html
 

oqaziuet

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Your purpose of joining this forum since 2011 was ????

Haha. So when it suits you Bangladesh is a creation of India via Mukti Bahini. And when you want to blow your trumpet its a political failure. How convenient indeed! Everything that you say is always a contradiction. Yes you are separate countries, and we have no wish to have you in India either. If not we could have merged east pakistan in to India in 1971. However we are not interested in this merger.
I am sorry to disabuse you of your wild imagination but annihilation of hindus wasn't possible then, and it isn't possible now, and it will never be possible ever. Whatever western movie you have been watching will fetch you a good night's sleep, so have fun. (bigsmile)
 

chandbibi

Minister (2k+ posts)
I joined it because i wanted to understand pakistanis better. My interest in this website was the result of google search which led me here. This was of course in connection with the Mumbai attacks and i then started reading some things here. Over a period of time i joined it to present my point of view. That just about sums it up.
Your purpose of joining this forum since 2011 was ????



Let Chandbibi answer my question. I would appreciate if the answer comes from her side.
 

Solidify

MPA (400+ posts)
We need solid gwaab against India & all those who created local chaos before 2014 1st quarter! Ache din agiyai hai
 

RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
Yes, #India Mirage landing on Yamuna Expressway is a big thing but #Pakistan did it much before via @firstpost


http://www.firstpost.com/world/yes-...-but-pakistan-did-it-much-before-2257432.html


Highway strips are strategic assets for a nation which double up as auxiliary bases in war times. Many European countries have used this tactic for decades, particularly Germany, Sweden, Finland and Poland. Countries like China, Taiwan, Singapore and Australia too have done so many times before.
But what should bring a reality check for the Indians is the fact that Pakistan has done it twice before first in 2000 and then again in 2010.
The first time Pakistan achieved the feat was way back in the year 2000 when Pakistan Air Force (PAF) used the M2 motorway (Islamabad-Lahore) as a runway on two occasions. For those who have an appetite for technical details, Pakistans M-1 Motorway (Peshawar-Islamabad) and the M-2 Motorway (Islamabad-Lahore) each include two emergency runway sections of 2,700 m (9,000 ft) length each. The four emergency runway sections become operational by removing removable concrete medians using forklifts.
PAF used the M2 motorway as a runway for the first time in 2000 when it landed an F-7P fighter, a Super Mushak trainer and a C-130. PAF did it again in 2010 by using a runway section on the M2 motorway on 2 April 2010 to land, refuel and take-off two jet fighters, a Mirage III and an F-7P, during its Highmark 2010 exercise.
India has finally woken up to the need to have many road runways. The Agra-Lucknow expressway is the first Indian road runway.
There are many prerequisites for having road runways. For example, there should be a smooth road at least three kilometers long. Moreover, the road segment has to be straight, leveled, located on non-undulating ground without slope and must not have electricity poles, masts, or mobile phone towers.
For a country like India, whose worst security nightmare is having to fight a two-pronged war with Pakistan and China, road runways are crucial. This underlines the importance of expressways the highest class of roads which are six-or-eight-lanes controlled-access highways.
As of now, India boasts of 23 expressways totaling a length of 1324 kms, but the truth is that all of these so-called expressways are misnomers.
If one goes by the strict definition of expressways, India has under 1000 kms of such network; and barely a couple of hundred kms network if one goes by the international parameters.
In other words, the more international-class expressways India has, the more Indian strategic interests are secure.
The moral of the story: expressways are not only lifelines for transportation but also key assets for national security.
 

kayawish

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Simply Not, India can not win conventional war over Pakistan, atomic war can damage which will be equal for both.
I look in this way that if both countries go for atomic war ,one thing is for sure that Hinduism will be nearly finish from sub-continent whereas Muslims will still remain.India is not the problem but extremist Hindu is the main problem which is dominating India.
 

RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
Our travel advice to #Modi is to send his soldiers to invade #Pakistan with their bodybags, theyll need them" http://wpo.st/nJLL0


An Indian military operation along its eastern border with Burma has Pakistani leaders rattled, resulting in threats of swift retaliation should India ever try similar maneuvers along its western border with Pakistan.


The Pakistani statements which include provocative reminders that India is not the only subcontinent power with nuclear arms are once again exposing the deep-rooted suspicions and lingering potential for conflict between the long-standing rivals despite groundbreaking outreach to ease tensions.


It has been worse. The two countries have fought three major wars since 1947, engaged in a nuclear arms race in the 1980s and clashed in the 1990s.
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Both the Indian army and Burmas government have denied that Indian troops crossed the border. In a newspaper interview, however, Indias information minister, Rajyavardhan Rathore, said Indian forces had pushed deep into Burma. He called the operation a message to countries such as Pakistan that it will not hesitate to pursue threats outside of its borders.


We will strike when we want to, Rathore, a retired army officer, told the Indian Express newspaper.


The reaction from Pakistani leaders has been swift and severe touching off a wildfire of social media comments on both sides of the border.


In a statement issued late Wednesday, Pakistani Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan warned Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to think twice before threatening Pakistan. Those who are contemplating any kind of adventure in Pakistan must know that they will get a bloody face in the process, Khan said. Those who have evil designs against us listen carefully, Pakistan is not Burma.


Pakistans defense minister, Khawaja Asif, even brought up the possibility of nuclear war should India ever launch a similar incursion into Pakistan. He urged the international community to intervene, telling Geo News the latest tension could prove a harbinger of disaster for South Asia.


[Floods link the countries in disaster]


Pakistans army chief, Raheel Sharif, chaired a meeting of his top commanders on Wednesday to discuss Pakistans worsening relationship with India. Over the past month, Pakistani leaders have repeatedly accused Indias intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), of sponsoring several recent terrorist attacks in Pakistan.


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Meanwhile, social media on both sides reflected support of their leaders and militaries. Indians showed support for Modi through the Twitter hashtag of #56inchrocks, a reference to a past claim by Modi about his chest size. (Modis longtime tailor later said Modi has a 44-inch chest.)


In Pakistan, the most popular Twitter hashtag is #atankWadiIndia, which is a slur that refers to India as being a terrorist.


Our travel advice to Modi is to send his soldiers to invade Pakistan with their bodybags, theyll need them, and we dont have any, the group @defencepk, which tracks the Pakistani military, tweeted to its 69,000 followers.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...0616ea-102c-11e5-9726-49d6fa26a8c6_story.html
 

RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
NY Times Editorial: #India has more to lose in war with #Pakistan. #Modi #Kashmir http://nyti.ms/1E4j2wE

More than 50 years after India and Pakistan were created in the partition of the British colonial empire, the disputed region of Kashmir remains a dangerous flash point. Cross-border violence has surged in recent months, raising new fears that the attacks could spiral out of control and set off another war between the two nuclear-armed adversaries.

In the last week alone, India and Pakistan have traded heavy gunfire and mortars almost daily across the Line of Control, which divides Kashmir into regions controlled by each side. Many civilians have been killed or wounded in the violence, including eight killed and 14 wounded on Sunday, according to officials.

Each side blames the other. Experts say Pakistan has been testing Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who, in a break with his predecessor, has vowed not to ignore attacks by Pakistan-backed militants on Indian targets. On July 27, gunmen dressed in military fatigues attacked an Indian police station near the border with Pakistan and at least nine people were killed.

The incident came after Mr. Modi met Pakistans prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, during a regional meeting in Russia. Pakistans army, which draws its power from a constant state of tension with India, has often interfered when political leaders have tried to improve relations between the two countries.

Mr. Modis wish to strike back is understandable after many years of Indian restraint. But India, which is considerably stronger and more successful than Pakistan, has the most to lose if another war erupts. Mr. Modi recently became the first Indian prime minister in 34 years to visit the United Arab Emirates, which had been one of Pakistans biggest supporters but now sees the value in closer ties with India. In a joint statement, India and the emirates condemned the use of religion to justify terrorism and agreed to cooperate in counterterrorism operations.

In a sign of heightened concern over Kashmir, the United States and the United Nations secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, have urged India and Pakistan to exercise restraint and solve their differences through dialogue. They will have a chance to heed that advice when top Indian and Pakistani national security advisers meet later this month.
 

UKHADU

Banned
Best of luck for reviving a 2014 thread !!!


aj kal inke yeha koi sharif naam ka banda army me nai bharti hua hai , woh asman me ud sakta hai , teen ghodo par ek sath sawari kar sakta hai , ek over me saat wicket le sakta hai , mahmud ghaznawi ,md.ghori ,changej khan , khalid bin walid, salauddin ayubi aur zaid hamid laal topi wale ka ristedar hai . is bande ke aane se aap khud hi samajh sakte hai hindu baniya thar thar kaanp raha hai . [hilar][hilar][hilar]
 
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Waakt1

Banned
aj kal inke yeha koi sharif naam ka banda army me nai bharti hua hai , woh asman me ud sakta hai , teen ghodo par ek sath sawari kar sakta hai , ek over me saat wicket le sakta hai , mahmud ghaznawi ,md.ghori ,changej khan , khalid bin walid, salauddin ayubi aur zaid hamid laal topi wale ka ristedar hai . is bande ke aane se aap khud hi samajh sakte hai hindu baniya thar thar kaanp raha hai . [hilar][hilar][hilar]


Bil kull correct, try to accomplish a task abroad as sports tto living in the west as individuals rather than collective, jaan Indians ko dekhtaa Haan West mulk ma thoo aik Baath nazar aathee hai, wo Saab mil ka kaam khertha Haan, bakistani alaag alaag kaam khertha hai against each other or koyee uski madaad niee kaar thaa etc !
 

UKHADU

Banned
Bil kull correct, try to accomplish a task abroad as sports tto living in the west as individuals rather than collective, jaan Indians ko dekhtaa Haan West mulk ma thoo aik Baath nazar aathee hai, wo Saab mil ka kaam khertha Haan, bakistani alaag alaag kaam khertha hai against each other or koyee uski madaad niee kaar thaa etc !



hindustani is liye ek dusare ki madad karte hai ,koi bhi aage jayega chahe hindu ho ya musalman hamare mulk ka naam uncha hota hai . hum jaha jaate hai unke qayade qanoon ko obey karte hai .unke liye problem nahi khadi karte hai. india se bahar ja kar hum apne mulk ko ijjat dilana chahte hai.
 

Waakt1

Banned
Is baath ma bikkull maanthan ka Hindu bhai bhai aur bakistani ma ma ma liken hum Saab actually Hindustani se niklai Haan ?
 

Aslan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
That happened because of Muslim two nation theory which was later debunked by bangladesh. So ija bija tija has already taken place. India, Pakistan, bangladesh. End of story. India has been under-estimated by Pakistanis because you are fed on a constant diet of lies which involves your own non existent victories. Now that you are standing on the verge of destruction you wish the same for India. However India was never in the mess pakistan is in. And India is going where you can only imagine yourself to be at. So your hokey pokey don't make any sense.
Indians are a coward people.This is an historical fact.India has been conquered time and again by a very small number of outsiders.Indians are under the illusion that they can destroy Pakistan and
will remain unscathed.Pakistan has enough weapons to destroy at least half of India.If Pakistan is destroyed then so be it.Pakistanis are not too worried about it.One has to die one day anyway.ps
There is no such country as India (historically).The Greeks called the land beyond Indus as India.India was created by Mughals and the British.It needs to be broken up into smaller countries.
 

Waakt1

Banned
Indians are a coward people.This is an historical fact.India has been conquered time and again by a very small number of outsiders.Indians are under the illusion that they can destroy Pakistan and
will remain unscathed.Pakistan has enough weapons to destroy at least half of India.If Pakistan is destroyed then so be it.Pakistanis are not too worried about it.One has to die one day anyway.ps
There is no such country as India (historically).The Greeks called the land beyond Indus as India.India was created by Mughals and the British.It needs to be broken up into smaller countries.


From a nuatral point of view, the ONLY Solution to Endia / Bakistan issue of annihilation (from prevention ) is a basic conventional war.
 

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