Breaking News: Raymond Davis has been freed

hassam

MPA (400+ posts)

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Originally Posted by hassam
MQM supporters must be very happy, as this incident has taken people attention away from the Munafiqat and dirty politics of their beloved idol. They will come out clean due to short term memory of the nation and its unabated tendency to focus on things that are not root cause of their misery.




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Originally Posted by elipst
Huh?? What does this have to do with MQM? Why must you people drag MQM into everything?

As you can very well see the happiest people here are Imran fans, gives them a chance to do some politics on this.




Better start thinking about the current issue... which is more important... we can fight on petty issues on a later time point...​

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That is my point. Ray was a wolf and we are all aware of it. What we always miss is to bring out the black sheeps or sleeve snakes. So in my view Ray's issue is helping to outcast an opportunity to point out at a black sheep and that is what as a nation is our real dilema. Unless we deal with these black sheeps we will keep having many Rays. He is the one who got caught and there are so many other that we do not even know about but these black sheeps do and do not utter a word.
 

GraanG2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
BREAKING NEWS : Davis in Islamabad ..... DUnya

Ramynd davis Is in Islamabad...watch Dunya News.
 

simple_and_peacefull

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/16/pakistani-court-reportedly-frees-jailed-cia-contractor/#
Clinton Denies 'Blood Money' Helped Free CIA Contractor in Pakistan

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton denies claims the U.S. paid over $2 million in "blood money" to free a CIA contractor who shot and killed two Pakistani men.
"The United States did not pay any compensation," Clinton told reporters in Cairo, according to Reuters.
In what appeared to be carefully choreographed end to the diplomatic crisis, the U.S. Embassy said the Justice Department had opened an investigation into the killings on Jan. 27 by Raymond Allen Davis. It thanked the families for "their generosity" in pardoning Davis, but did not mention any money changing hands.
The killings and detention of Davis triggered a fresh wave of anti-American sentiment in Pakistan and were testing an alliance seen as key to defeating al-Qaida and ending the war in Afghanistan.
The tensions were especially sharp between the CIA and Pakistan's powerful Inter Services Intelligence Agency, which says it did not know Davis was operating in the country. One ISI official said it had backed the "blood money" deal. There appeared to be little public backlash as night fell in Pakistan.
Davis claimed he acted in self-defense when he killed the two men on the street in the eastern city of Lahore.
The United States had insisted Davis was covered by diplomatic immunity, but the weak government here, facing intense pressure from Islamist parties, sections of the media and the general public, refused to acknowledge the protection.
The payment of "blood money", sanctioned under Pakistani law, had been suggested as the best way to end the dispute.
Given the high stakes for both nations, few imagined either side would allow it to derail the relationship. The main question was how long it would take to reach a deal.
Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah said Davis was charged with murder Wednesday in a court that was convened in a prison in Lahore, but was immediately pardoned by the families of the victims after the payment.
Reporters were not allowed to witness the proceedings.
"This all happened in court and everything was according to law," he said. "The court has acquitted Raymond Davis. Now he can go anywhere."
Raja Muhammad Irshad, a laywer for the families, said 19 male and female relatives appeared in court to accept the money.
He said each told the court "they were ready to accept the blood money deal without pressure and would have no objection if the court acquitted Raymond Davis."
Representatives of the families had previously said they would refuse any money.
Some media reports said the some of the families had been given permission to live in the United States.
Irshad said that was not discussed in court.
The case dominated headlines and television shows in Pakistan, with pundits using it to whip up hatred against the already unpopular United States. While the case played out in court, many analysts said that the dispute was essentially one between the CIA and the ISA, and that they would need to resolve their differences before Davis could be freed.
One ISI official said CIA director Leon Panetta and ISI chief Gen. Shuja Pasha talked in mid-February to smooth out the friction between the two spy agencies. A U.S. official confirmed that the phone call took place.
Pasha demanded the U.S. identify "all the Ray Davises working in Pakistan, behind our backs," the official said.
He said Panetta agreed "in principle" to declare such employees, the official said, but would not confirm if the agency had done so.
A second ISI official said as a result of that conversation the ISI -- which along with the army is a major power center in the country -- then backed an effort to help negotiate the "blood money." The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not allowed to give their names to the media.
 

ahmadalikhan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: BREAKING NEWS : Davis in Islamabad ..... DUnya

Gul hammed gul says his name is in ECL , yeah dunya news he is in islamabad. Meher bukhari says.
 

Waseem

Moderator
Staff member
She could be right money could have been paid by a third party could be Saudis most probably.

So do you have agenda of speaking for Americans, how can you say she can be right, she and her boss was also saying Raymond Davis is a diplomat. And we all know how much true they were.
 

Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)
That is my point. Ray was a wolf and we are all aware of it. What we always miss is to bring out the black sheeps or sleeve snakes. So in my view Ray's issue is helping to outcast an opportunity to point out at a black sheep and that is what as a nation is our real dilema. Unless we deal with these black sheeps we will keep having many Rays. He is the one who got caught and there are so many other that we do not even know about but these black sheeps do and do not utter a word.

I had also found a news piece to play with.... but I refrained from posting it because I wanted the people to develop a consensus..... rather than political point scoring....

If you consider everybody who supports MQM a black sheep... it is your sick mentality and I cant help it...
 

Unicorn

Banned
So do you have agenda of speaking for Americans, how can you say she can be right, she and her boss was also saying Raymond Davis is a diplomat. And we all know how much true they were.

I don't know if you have seen the program of Najam Sethi two weeks ago in it he described this whole situation in detail and revealed the involvement of Saudis
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
sab miley hoey hain bloey ab kiani boley ab zardari boley abb gilani boley abb gunja............lakin ye begharat kia bolain gey..................Allah in begharton ore in key supporters ko ghark karey...........
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
shahbaz sharif ne ek masoom bewa ka khoon baich dyaa chund daaalar ke aiwaz......

Look who is talking
In this case three deceased have been sold by the relatives
But Your Baigharat Leader Bhagora General sold thousands and kept the money as well
 

Newt0n

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
i too couldn't believe the news.... whatever happened shows tht v pakistanis have no right whatsoever not in our own country... govt. as well as ISI has played with the sentiments of pakistani ppl
 

Waseem

Moderator
Staff member
I don't know if you have seen the program of Najam Sethi two weeks ago in it he described this whole situation in detail and revealed the involvement of Saudis

I know saudi's involvement in this case but unfortunately either you failed to understand me, or you don't want to, my point was, how can we believe what Clinton is saying today when we already know the whole American government from Obama to their counsel general in Lahore is lying from day one by declaring him a diplomat, and today their lies have been exposed that he was not a diplomat and there was no immunity for that killer.
 

hassam

MPA (400+ posts)
I had also found a news piece to play with.... but I refrained from posting it because I wanted the people to develop a consensus..... rather than political point scoring....

If you consider everybody who supports MQM a black sheep... it is your sick mentality and I cant help it...

Brother Salik you are missing the point again. Anyway I cannot help you either since you are being judgemental.
 

MRKYYZ

Citizen
I used to jokingly say to my friends: "if America attacks and takes over Pakistan, you will see how many Pakistanis will be willing to turn against their own country if America offers green cards and a few dollars to buy their loyalty and act against Pakistan"

I am really sad after todays events, to see that families sold their blood and moved to the same country where their brother's killer came from.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/16/pakistani-court-reportedly-frees-jailed-cia-contractor/#
Clinton Denies 'Blood Money' Helped Free CIA Contractor in Pakistan

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton denies claims the U.S. paid over $2 million in "blood money" to free a CIA contractor who shot and killed two Pakistani men.
"The United States did not pay any compensation," Clinton told reporters in Cairo, according to Reuters.
In what appeared to be carefully choreographed end to the diplomatic crisis, the U.S. Embassy said the Justice Department had opened an investigation into the killings on Jan. 27 by Raymond Allen Davis. It thanked the families for "their generosity" in pardoning Davis, but did not mention any money changing hands.
The killings and detention of Davis triggered a fresh wave of anti-American sentiment in Pakistan and were testing an alliance seen as key to defeating al-Qaida and ending the war in Afghanistan.
The tensions were especially sharp between the CIA and Pakistan's powerful Inter Services Intelligence Agency, which says it did not know Davis was operating in the country. One ISI official said it had backed the "blood money" deal. There appeared to be little public backlash as night fell in Pakistan.
Davis claimed he acted in self-defense when he killed the two men on the street in the eastern city of Lahore.
The United States had insisted Davis was covered by diplomatic immunity, but the weak government here, facing intense pressure from Islamist parties, sections of the media and the general public, refused to acknowledge the protection.
The payment of "blood money", sanctioned under Pakistani law, had been suggested as the best way to end the dispute.
Given the high stakes for both nations, few imagined either side would allow it to derail the relationship. The main question was how long it would take to reach a deal.
Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah said Davis was charged with murder Wednesday in a court that was convened in a prison in Lahore, but was immediately pardoned by the families of the victims after the payment.
Reporters were not allowed to witness the proceedings.
"This all happened in court and everything was according to law," he said. "The court has acquitted Raymond Davis. Now he can go anywhere."
Raja Muhammad Irshad, a laywer for the families, said 19 male and female relatives appeared in court to accept the money.
He said each told the court "they were ready to accept the blood money deal without pressure and would have no objection if the court acquitted Raymond Davis."
Representatives of the families had previously said they would refuse any money.
Some media reports said the some of the families had been given permission to live in the United States.
Irshad said that was not discussed in court.
The case dominated headlines and television shows in Pakistan, with pundits using it to whip up hatred against the already unpopular United States. While the case played out in court, many analysts said that the dispute was essentially one between the CIA and the ISA, and that they would need to resolve their differences before Davis could be freed.
One ISI official said CIA director Leon Panetta and ISI chief Gen. Shuja Pasha talked in mid-February to smooth out the friction between the two spy agencies. A U.S. official confirmed that the phone call took place.
Pasha demanded the U.S. identify "all the Ray Davises working in Pakistan, behind our backs," the official said.
He said Panetta agreed "in principle" to declare such employees, the official said, but would not confirm if the agency had done so.
A second ISI official said as a result of that conversation the ISI -- which along with the army is a major power center in the country -- then backed an effort to help negotiate the "blood money." The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not allowed to give their names to the media.

The most absurd and hillarious statement I have heard so far.
General Pasha demanded the US to identify all their spies working in Pakistan behind our back.
It is your job, stupid, to find out! You think every time America sends a spy to another country
they should inform the other country that they are sending so and so to spy on them and please
extend all the help they can to do better spying.
And we have given him another extention!
 

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