Khawar khan kkh
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Ha ha ha ha
Ayaz Amir ditched Azaadi March; called Imran and Qadri Bozos :D
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Ha ha ha ha
Mehrushka
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
:):P
Am going to stick this on back of my car today:P but won't go near D chowk[hilar]
Will_Bite
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
There will always be opponents. Noone is perfect. I too disagree with a lot of things PTI does, but that doesnt mean I disagree with their ideology.
Problem is, the media wants juice. They are not getting it. Bigger problem for the govt is, that Imran has the stamina needed to tire them out. Basically,PMLN is using a wait and tire out policy. TUQ might tire out, but Imran probably wont.. He is a gutsy guy, and most importantly, he has got masses behind him. And those masses are primarily composed of taxpayers of our society. PMLN on the other hand is filled with either tax defaulters, or those who just never bother.
Look at the overall change this sitin has brought about. Poeple are standing up for their rights. They are not relying on Imran to make decisions for them. They are taking control of their democratic right on their own. This is change. This is what scares PMLN and PPP the most.
Khawar khan kkh
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Khan is not like rest of status que leaders but even worst.
And plz stop following this mola jut type socalled leader.
Pakistan ham sharminda hain ager aaj bhe hamain zardari nawaz bb k bad aisa leader mila jo in say bhe bura hai jisko pata nahe hai k jang system k andar reh k larri jati hai aur wohi asla jeet hoti hai ya phir system ko collapse karna hota hai aur tarikh gawah hai k system ko khatam.karnay k bad koi nation bhe aagay na barh saki.
Russia say lay kar lebia aur misar ke history aap k.samnay hai.
Khawar khan kkh
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Apni ghaltion ko chpanay k liay dosron ke ghaltion ko ujagar karna bhe barri ghalti hoti hai.
Change yeh hoti hai k aik ghalt kar raha hai aap acha karo aur faisla qom aur Allah pay chorr do jeet Haq ke ho gy
Husaink
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
اچھا جی بٹ صاحب تمھارے سے ہی شروع کر لیتے ہیں انی دیا
Will_Bite
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Ghalat aur sahi is not the same as mujrimana aur ghair mujrimana.
When someone has committed crimes, you cannot just say "Allah pey chor do...jeet haq ki ho gi". The criminal has to be punished. Nawaz has committed countless financial crimes against the public. And last years elections were rigged..and hence, crimes were committed. And criminals responsible have to be punished. We cant simply say 'Allah pey chor do" every time someone commits a crime. This has been going on for too long.
These half wit PTI supporters are like flies who would find a grain of dirt to sit on in an otherwise clean room
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Mehrushka
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I will only say the Oscar goes to IK for some pti supporters language here..and the global award goes to IK too for people liking posts of such people who call names??? Simply pathetic!!!!
jeaybhutto
Senator (1k+ posts)
Although, I am a PPP supporter, I agree with most of what IK says, it is the Bozos in his team that tick me off....Sheeda Tulli, Swati, SMQ, Aleem Khan etc etc
wonder why he needs these jokers?
wonder why he needs these jokers?
Unlettered
Senator (1k+ posts)
Who is making the mistakes that is yet to be decide, time will tell.
khalilqureshi
Senator (1k+ posts)
"Theres something like too much of a good thing. Have the twin bozos of the Reverend Qadri and Imran Khan for this is the title their over-stretched antics are earning for them not heard of the law of diminishing returns? Do they understand anything of what boredom means, of what fatigue implies? The best play in the world palls if it goes on for too long. And God knows this is not the best play in the world.
There is a critical moment in everything, in love as in war. Or how the Bard puts it: of there being a tide in the affairs of men, etc. For whatever reason and we may search for the reason long and hard in the archives of half-cocked conspiracies the tide has ebbed for the assault on Islamabad. Any leader who claims for himself the mantle of leadership should know when the decisive moment has passed, owing this as much to himself as to his followers.
The twin shows in Islamabad are now more than anything else an exercise in extended boredom. Imran Khan had precious little to say even in the beginning. He has nothing whatsoever to say now. He has been blessed with many gifts by his good fairies but the power of speaking, alas, is not amongst them.
The Reverend is an outstanding orator. But as the days pass and he goes through his evening speaking routine it is all too obvious that he is on increasingly thin ground and he too has very little to say. And he has started gesticulating more and raising both his arms, which is his habit, more than is normal with him.
The Allama is an intelligent and sharp man, smarter than most other men in the political arena today. He has much going for him but having gained much in stature why is he now bent on reducing it?
Every military fool who has read nothing else is familiar with the adage dont reinforce failure. Imran and Qadri are now reinforcing failure and the way they are going about it, with their repetitive speeches, they are coming across as fools in their own right. And such fools that they make the Sharifs look good.
What has also helped the Sharif cause is that Pervaiz Rasheed while not wholly quiet it would take a miracle for him to be that is not as voluble as before. And Saad Rafique is not shooting from the hip and Khawaja Asif is not letting fly his verbal rockets which like Porus proverbial elephants were always more destructive for his own side. But low ministerial volume apart, the twin bozos now qualify as the governments hidden assets.
D Square, our version of Tahrir Square, was first an emblem of hope, at least for the optimists who yearned for some sort of creative disorder, even if it meant smudging that sacred document called the constitution. Then as the days lengthened into weeks and the weeks into something longer, the hope became a distraction. Now it is a downright nuisance. But trust Imran and Qadri not to see it. Trust them not to see what is obvious to most other people.
If azadi means Imrans speeches we can keep azadi in a locked-up cupboard for some more time. And if the Reverends ranting the last time I listened it sounded very much like ranting, a professor trying extra hard to make a point is revolution, doubts are bound to be raised about the usefulness of revolution.
Why cant our two geniuses get this into their minds? Recognising failure is not a failure of leadership. If anything, it is a mark of leadership, to be so strong in your conviction that you can say in plain words that we played for high stakes but because of circumstances not in our control we have lost. Nonetheless, we have gained valuable experience. Having passed through fire we are the tougher for it, our steel more tempered, our courage more assured, our determination no less than before. We have come to recognise our strengths and weaknesseslet us redouble our strength and remove our weaknesses. Let us prepare ourselves for the trials that yet await us.
If they turn their minds to the next elections, if they start preparing for them now, they along with their Sunni Ittehad and Wahdatul Muslimeen allies can become a power in the land, or at least in Punjab. Will that be a small achievement? Which other party has such dedicated workers? The MQM certainly which has a mass base in Karachi and Hyderabad and a tight-knit organisation. The Jamaat-e-Islami but on a much smaller scale. Thats all. On such a foundation a strong political alliance can be built.
Theres a political vacuum in the country, the PML-N leadership protecting their vast political and commercial interests in Punjab and the PPP leadership protecting their equally vast political and commercial interests in Sindh. Where will the alternative come from? This is the chance for Qadri and Imran (provided the Reverend doesnt skip off to Canada). They were hoping for a shortcut. That hasnt occurred. Now lies the challenge for the long haul. Are they up to it?
Qadri and Imran were able to attract only limited crowds on Constitution Avenue, nothing on the scale of the Arab Spring. But what of that? Is it a small thing that PAT and PTI crowds have proved their toughness and endurance, especially PAT workers whose discipline and organisation have to be admired? The least these workers and partisans deserve is honesty. Whether Qadri and Imran were clear about their aims, whether they had thought through the venture upon which they were embarking, whether they were the authors of their purpose or there were other tutorsthese will remain items for debate and discussion. But one thing is clear that the venture has failed.
Whether it was built on false assumptions is beside the point. The principal thing is that it has failed. The PML-N government has not been toppled. Nawaz Sharif is still prime minister while the Reverend and the Captain are out there giving their increasingly lacklustre speeches. No excuses are needed for calling off the dharnas, no excuse of floods or anything else none of this nonsense about an exit strategy just a statement of aims and objectives and then a frank admission of failure.
Fidel Castro launched on attack on the Moncada army barracks near Santiago in 1953. The attack was a failure and Castro was arrested. In court he declared, History will absolve me. The Cuban revolution succeeded in 1959 when the revolutionary forces led by Castro toppled Batista from power. Hugo Chavez launched a military adventure when he was a serving colonel in the Venezuelan army. He was arrested and spent time in prison. He later founded a political movement at whose head he came to power when elected president of Venezuela.
Far be it from me to suggest any resemblance, even the slightest, between our jokers and those heroes. (To keep things in perspective it should be noted that while Chavez stands in the minor or rear ranks of revolutionaries, the great Fidel stands tall in the first ranks.) Those historical parallels are drawn only to make the point that a setback is not the end of the road. (In Lawrence College in my time we used to have academic champions for whom it was not unusual to spend three or four years in one class. With them it was a favourite motto: Failures are the grand pillars of success.)
By the way, what does one say of a country the central square of whose capital is called D Square? If such is our imagination then perhaps it is entirely appropriate that we have morons for leaders and bozos dressed up in the robes of revolution."
He was not given ticket my PMLN and PMLN becomes bunch of morons then he looked at PTI. PTI didn't give him lift and PTI become Bozos now look at this both morons and bozos refused him and he become MUDAK. Don't ask me for meaning look at dictionary.
There is a critical moment in everything, in love as in war. Or how the Bard puts it: of there being a tide in the affairs of men, etc. For whatever reason and we may search for the reason long and hard in the archives of half-cocked conspiracies the tide has ebbed for the assault on Islamabad. Any leader who claims for himself the mantle of leadership should know when the decisive moment has passed, owing this as much to himself as to his followers.
The twin shows in Islamabad are now more than anything else an exercise in extended boredom. Imran Khan had precious little to say even in the beginning. He has nothing whatsoever to say now. He has been blessed with many gifts by his good fairies but the power of speaking, alas, is not amongst them.
The Reverend is an outstanding orator. But as the days pass and he goes through his evening speaking routine it is all too obvious that he is on increasingly thin ground and he too has very little to say. And he has started gesticulating more and raising both his arms, which is his habit, more than is normal with him.
The Allama is an intelligent and sharp man, smarter than most other men in the political arena today. He has much going for him but having gained much in stature why is he now bent on reducing it?
Every military fool who has read nothing else is familiar with the adage dont reinforce failure. Imran and Qadri are now reinforcing failure and the way they are going about it, with their repetitive speeches, they are coming across as fools in their own right. And such fools that they make the Sharifs look good.
What has also helped the Sharif cause is that Pervaiz Rasheed while not wholly quiet it would take a miracle for him to be that is not as voluble as before. And Saad Rafique is not shooting from the hip and Khawaja Asif is not letting fly his verbal rockets which like Porus proverbial elephants were always more destructive for his own side. But low ministerial volume apart, the twin bozos now qualify as the governments hidden assets.
D Square, our version of Tahrir Square, was first an emblem of hope, at least for the optimists who yearned for some sort of creative disorder, even if it meant smudging that sacred document called the constitution. Then as the days lengthened into weeks and the weeks into something longer, the hope became a distraction. Now it is a downright nuisance. But trust Imran and Qadri not to see it. Trust them not to see what is obvious to most other people.
If azadi means Imrans speeches we can keep azadi in a locked-up cupboard for some more time. And if the Reverends ranting the last time I listened it sounded very much like ranting, a professor trying extra hard to make a point is revolution, doubts are bound to be raised about the usefulness of revolution.
Why cant our two geniuses get this into their minds? Recognising failure is not a failure of leadership. If anything, it is a mark of leadership, to be so strong in your conviction that you can say in plain words that we played for high stakes but because of circumstances not in our control we have lost. Nonetheless, we have gained valuable experience. Having passed through fire we are the tougher for it, our steel more tempered, our courage more assured, our determination no less than before. We have come to recognise our strengths and weaknesseslet us redouble our strength and remove our weaknesses. Let us prepare ourselves for the trials that yet await us.
If they turn their minds to the next elections, if they start preparing for them now, they along with their Sunni Ittehad and Wahdatul Muslimeen allies can become a power in the land, or at least in Punjab. Will that be a small achievement? Which other party has such dedicated workers? The MQM certainly which has a mass base in Karachi and Hyderabad and a tight-knit organisation. The Jamaat-e-Islami but on a much smaller scale. Thats all. On such a foundation a strong political alliance can be built.
Theres a political vacuum in the country, the PML-N leadership protecting their vast political and commercial interests in Punjab and the PPP leadership protecting their equally vast political and commercial interests in Sindh. Where will the alternative come from? This is the chance for Qadri and Imran (provided the Reverend doesnt skip off to Canada). They were hoping for a shortcut. That hasnt occurred. Now lies the challenge for the long haul. Are they up to it?
Qadri and Imran were able to attract only limited crowds on Constitution Avenue, nothing on the scale of the Arab Spring. But what of that? Is it a small thing that PAT and PTI crowds have proved their toughness and endurance, especially PAT workers whose discipline and organisation have to be admired? The least these workers and partisans deserve is honesty. Whether Qadri and Imran were clear about their aims, whether they had thought through the venture upon which they were embarking, whether they were the authors of their purpose or there were other tutorsthese will remain items for debate and discussion. But one thing is clear that the venture has failed.
Whether it was built on false assumptions is beside the point. The principal thing is that it has failed. The PML-N government has not been toppled. Nawaz Sharif is still prime minister while the Reverend and the Captain are out there giving their increasingly lacklustre speeches. No excuses are needed for calling off the dharnas, no excuse of floods or anything else none of this nonsense about an exit strategy just a statement of aims and objectives and then a frank admission of failure.
Fidel Castro launched on attack on the Moncada army barracks near Santiago in 1953. The attack was a failure and Castro was arrested. In court he declared, History will absolve me. The Cuban revolution succeeded in 1959 when the revolutionary forces led by Castro toppled Batista from power. Hugo Chavez launched a military adventure when he was a serving colonel in the Venezuelan army. He was arrested and spent time in prison. He later founded a political movement at whose head he came to power when elected president of Venezuela.
Far be it from me to suggest any resemblance, even the slightest, between our jokers and those heroes. (To keep things in perspective it should be noted that while Chavez stands in the minor or rear ranks of revolutionaries, the great Fidel stands tall in the first ranks.) Those historical parallels are drawn only to make the point that a setback is not the end of the road. (In Lawrence College in my time we used to have academic champions for whom it was not unusual to spend three or four years in one class. With them it was a favourite motto: Failures are the grand pillars of success.)
By the way, what does one say of a country the central square of whose capital is called D Square? If such is our imagination then perhaps it is entirely appropriate that we have morons for leaders and bozos dressed up in the robes of revolution."
He was not given ticket my PMLN and PMLN becomes bunch of morons then he looked at PTI. PTI didn't give him lift and PTI become Bozos now look at this both morons and bozos refused him and he become MUDAK. Don't ask me for meaning look at dictionary.
sohnidhartie
Minister (2k+ posts)
:):P
Am going to stick this on back of my car today:P but won't go near D chowk[hilar]
Goto Raiwind and bing smile on poor NS's Face. Ab to mujey bhi taras aey laga hey.....
Altaf Lutfi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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